The Logic Of Not Voting ?

[AP21]

voting for 3rd parties /= not voting

if they get 5% of the popular vote, they qualify for public campaign funding assistance which would aid in getting them into the larger platforms

or another way to put it

Wouldnt you want someone else on the stage to challenge both Hilary and Donald on their bullshit? Unless you are just blindly voting, i cant imagine that having more legit choices is a bad thing.

I would've LOVED to see Johnson AND Stein on stage, debating Hilary and Trump

The fact that the process is this convoluted speaks to the sham that it is. All candidates should be in one venue debating each other in front of the American people.

EXACTLY

but the media has to assume responsibility for this as well b/c they care about ratings too much

People really need to quit blaming the media. These motherfuckers wanted a white man in that seat and they got it. THe media always got to be the scapegoat for everything man. People were blaming the media when they thought Trump would lose, and now media is getting blame for him winning. You can't have it both ways. Man this guy did everything wrong but still won. People are talking about Clinton pandering... yeah it was fucking ridiculous, but we aren't talking about the pandering that Trump did. These redneck ass fools actually think that once Trump takes over, that all this "PC crap is over." Same people think Trump is going to somehow silence Black Lives Matter. If that ain't pandering I don't know what is. Them inbreds voted, a lot of us didn't. I'm not understanding people who either voted third party or write in being mad at Trump winning either. I literally have friends that trashed both Clinton and Trump before the votes came in, but are now on some "I'm afraid for the future" shit now. I'M like stfu.

who televises these debates fam?

What are you saying? How does this change anything I said?

the media IS responsible

just look at how Trump was able to just bully all the other candidates during the Republican debates. Why didnt they cut his mic off when he went over his time? Why didnt they cut his mic when he started hurling insults at people?

I'll tell you why...b/c they wanted the ratings and clicks from his fuckery

But how did that affect the election? People were ready to drop the Hilary was selected memes but Trump won. If anything this whole election was set up for Hilary to win if you want to bring the media into it. Big bad bully guy bashing the only true woman candidate for the presidency. People are trying to re write shit now that Trump actually won. So the media gets blame but the non voters ir the people who wrote in bullshit don't get blame? OK.

i think we talking at each other fam b/c i voted lol

 

[xxCivicxx]

The logic in not voting? Because both candidates are full of shit. We voted Obama in only to be told "blue lives don't matter" and "what about black on black crime". Shit don't change regardless

Like the original post said...

...Specifically in reference to elections like the present, where you might not be feeling none of the candidates, but you know that one is worse than the others.



What's wrong with voting for the lesser evil ? ....

Which one is worse in your opinion?

Trump obviously.

The one who openly supports killer-cops, and plans to increase their funding and power and "provide more resources" to them, and put a killer-cop-commander (Giuliani) into leadership of the justice department.

Like I said before, I think you'll get it eventually

You guys are spending so much energy imagining what trump MIGHT do that you can't see what hillary has already done

Trump is a buffoon at worst. Hillary is a fully aware malevolent entity

A "buffoon" can still make shit a whole lot worse.

1. Imagining huh ?

Most of that is directly from Trump's First 100 days list.
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days

As for Giuliani, the talk is out there. All you have to do is wait and see if he gets the position.

2. What "Hillary has already done" ? I'm not even too sure what you're referring to since she was never president.

But if you want to equate Obama to Hillary (since you might say that they're all the same), then why is Trump looking to change the situation ? If it's already that bad (because of "Hillary" ?), then why does Trump need to restore law and order and increase funding and power.

Sounds like you're downplaying everything that Trump says he wants to do, like he can't do it.

If presidents are that powerless, then how was Hillary able to pull off all the damage you're implying she did - and she wasn't even president ?

Smh come on man please don't be this obtuse right now

Hillary has been in washington for 30 YEARS NOW. She was also an NY senator AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE

Her POLICIES WHILE IN THOSE POSITIONS have been more DETRIMENTAL than what you are IMAGINING that trump might do in office

Smh at the bolded. That's how I really know that you have a lot to learn when it comes to what's going on in the world right now

 

[7figz]

The logic in not voting? Because both candidates are full of shit. We voted Obama in only to be told "blue lives don't matter" and "what about black on black crime". Shit don't change regardless

Like the original post said...

...Specifically in reference to elections like the present, where you might not be feeling none of the candidates, but you know that one is worse than the others.



What's wrong with voting for the lesser evil ? ....

Which one is worse in your opinion?

Trump obviously.

The one who openly supports killer-cops, and plans to increase their funding and power and "provide more resources" to them, and put a killer-cop-commander (Giuliani) into leadership of the justice department.

Like I said before, I think you'll get it eventually

You guys are spending so much energy imagining what trump MIGHT do that you can't see what hillary has already done

Trump is a buffoon at worst. Hillary is a fully aware malevolent entity

A "buffoon" can still make shit a whole lot worse.

1. Imagining huh ?

Most of that is directly from Trump's First 100 days list.
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days

As for Giuliani, the talk is out there. All you have to do is wait and see if he gets the position.

2. What "Hillary has already done" ? I'm not even too sure what you're referring to since she was never president.

But if you want to equate Obama to Hillary (since you might say that they're all the same), then why is Trump looking to change the situation ? If it's already that bad (because of "Hillary" ?), then why does Trump need to restore law and order and increase funding and power.

Sounds like you're downplaying everything that Trump says he wants to do, like he can't do it.

If presidents are that powerless, then how was Hillary able to pull off all the damage you're implying she did - and she wasn't even president ?

Smh come on man please don't be this obtuse right now

Hillary has been in washington for 30 YEARS NOW. She was also an NY senator AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE

Her POLICIES WHILE IN THOSE POSITIONS have been more DETRIMENTAL than what you are IMAGINING that trump might do in office

Smh at the bolded. That's how I really know that you have a lot to learn when it comes to what's going on in the world right now

Bruh, saying some shit, or constantly telling people they're wrong, doesn't make it so.

Instead of posting shit about what you think I know and don't know, post the policies that Hillary was responsible for in comparison to Trump's policies - and you'd save yourself a whole lot of posting.

 

[xxCivicxx]

The logic in not voting? Because both candidates are full of shit. We voted Obama in only to be told "blue lives don't matter" and "what about black on black crime". Shit don't change regardless

Like the original post said...

...Specifically in reference to elections like the present, where you might not be feeling none of the candidates, but you know that one is worse than the others.



What's wrong with voting for the lesser evil ? ....

Which one is worse in your opinion?

Trump obviously.

The one who openly supports killer-cops, and plans to increase their funding and power and "provide more resources" to them, and put a killer-cop-commander (Giuliani) into leadership of the justice department.

Like I said before, I think you'll get it eventually

You guys are spending so much energy imagining what trump MIGHT do that you can't see what hillary has already done

Trump is a buffoon at worst. Hillary is a fully aware malevolent entity

A "buffoon" can still make shit a whole lot worse.

1. Imagining huh ?

Most of that is directly from Trump's First 100 days list.
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days

As for Giuliani, the talk is out there. All you have to do is wait and see if he gets the position.

2. What "Hillary has already done" ? I'm not even too sure what you're referring to since she was never president.

But if you want to equate Obama to Hillary (since you might say that they're all the same), then why is Trump looking to change the situation ? If it's already that bad (because of "Hillary" ?), then why does Trump need to restore law and order and increase funding and power.

Sounds like you're downplaying everything that Trump says he wants to do, like he can't do it.

If presidents are that powerless, then how was Hillary able to pull off all the damage you're implying she did - and she wasn't even president ?

Smh come on man please don't be this obtuse right now

Hillary has been in washington for 30 YEARS NOW. She was also an NY senator AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE

Her POLICIES WHILE IN THOSE POSITIONS have been more DETRIMENTAL than what you are IMAGINING that trump might do in office

Smh at the bolded. That's how I really know that you have a lot to learn when it comes to what's going on in the world right now

Bruh, saying some shit, or constantly telling people they're wrong, doesn't make it so.

Instead of posting shit about what you think I know and don't know, post the policies that Hillary was responsible for in comparison to Trump's policies - and you'd save yourself a whole lot of posting.

Nah I'm done repeating myself in every thread

I've been posting the same facts for month and moths, you chose to ignore it so that's on you

You can start in this thread then check my post history if you wanna learn about hillary.
http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/552885/aye-yall-know-hillary-clinton-is-trash-right/p1

I don't understand how a person can say there's no logic to something before knowing all of the facts around that thing but that's just me /shrug

 

[xxCivicxx]

And fyi trump has never been in political office so he has no "policies" to be responsible for with respect to government legislation

 

[blackrain]

And fyi trump has never been in political office so he has no "policies" to be responsible for with respect to government legislation

But he does have a personal history of being a racist and actually being sued over his housing discrimination policies. Simply because he's never held public office doesn't mean he hasn't done shit that hasn't negatively affected people.

 

[7figz]

The logic in not voting? Because both candidates are full of shit. We voted Obama in only to be told "blue lives don't matter" and "what about black on black crime". Shit don't change regardless

Like the original post said...

...Specifically in reference to elections like the present, where you might not be feeling none of the candidates, but you know that one is worse than the others.



What's wrong with voting for the lesser evil ? ....

Which one is worse in your opinion?

Trump obviously.

The one who openly supports killer-cops, and plans to increase their funding and power and "provide more resources" to them, and put a killer-cop-commander (Giuliani) into leadership of the justice department.

Like I said before, I think you'll get it eventually

You guys are spending so much energy imagining what trump MIGHT do that you can't see what hillary has already done

Trump is a buffoon at worst. Hillary is a fully aware malevolent entity

A "buffoon" can still make shit a whole lot worse.

1. Imagining huh ?

Most of that is directly from Trump's First 100 days list.
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days

As for Giuliani, the talk is out there. All you have to do is wait and see if he gets the position.

2. What "Hillary has already done" ? I'm not even too sure what you're referring to since she was never president.

But if you want to equate Obama to Hillary (since you might say that they're all the same), then why is Trump looking to change the situation ? If it's already that bad (because of "Hillary" ?), then why does Trump need to restore law and order and increase funding and power.

Sounds like you're downplaying everything that Trump says he wants to do, like he can't do it.

If presidents are that powerless, then how was Hillary able to pull off all the damage you're implying she did - and she wasn't even president ?

Smh come on man please don't be this obtuse right now

Hillary has been in washington for 30 YEARS NOW. She was also an NY senator AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE

Her POLICIES WHILE IN THOSE POSITIONS have been more DETRIMENTAL than what you are IMAGINING that trump might do in office

Smh at the bolded. That's how I really know that you have a lot to learn when it comes to what's going on in the world right now

Bruh, saying some shit, or constantly telling people they're wrong, doesn't make it so.

Instead of posting shit about what you think I know and don't know, post the policies that Hillary was responsible for in comparison to Trump's policies - and you'd save yourself a whole lot of posting.

Nah I'm done repeating myself in every thread

I've been posting the same facts for month and moths, you chose to ignore it so that's on you

You can start in this thread then check my post history if you wanna learn about hillary.
http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/552885/aye-yall-know-hillary-clinton-is-trash-right/p1

I don't understand how a person can say there's no logic to something before knowing all of the facts around that thing but that's just me /shrug

I'll try to get to that later. Question tho - are you saying that Hillary is worse than Trump + Trump is worse than Hillary ?

And fyi trump has never been in political office so he has no "policies" to be responsible for with respect to government legislation

That makes no sense. He said what he plans to do, and now he's president.

That's like saying you can't compare a convicted murderer and someone who never killed but is openly planning a mass shooting or some shit.

 

[xxCivicxx]

And fyi trump has never been in political office so he has no "policies" to be responsible for with respect to government legislation

But he does have a personal history of being a racist and actually being sued over his housing discrimination policies. Simply because he's never held public office doesn't mean he hasn't done shit that hasn't negatively affected people.

True but hillary has been in political office and she's done things that affect black people more negatively than trump's housing discrimination

 

[xxCivicxx]

The logic in not voting? Because both candidates are full of shit. We voted Obama in only to be told "blue lives don't matter" and "what about black on black crime". Shit don't change regardless

Like the original post said...

...Specifically in reference to elections like the present, where you might not be feeling none of the candidates, but you know that one is worse than the others.



What's wrong with voting for the lesser evil ? ....

Which one is worse in your opinion?

Trump obviously.

The one who openly supports killer-cops, and plans to increase their funding and power and "provide more resources" to them, and put a killer-cop-commander (Giuliani) into leadership of the justice department.

Like I said before, I think you'll get it eventually

You guys are spending so much energy imagining what trump MIGHT do that you can't see what hillary has already done

Trump is a buffoon at worst. Hillary is a fully aware malevolent entity

A "buffoon" can still make shit a whole lot worse.

1. Imagining huh ?

Most of that is directly from Trump's First 100 days list.
http://www.npr.org/2016/11/09/501451368/here-is-what-donald-trump-wants-to-do-in-his-first-100-days

As for Giuliani, the talk is out there. All you have to do is wait and see if he gets the position.

2. What "Hillary has already done" ? I'm not even too sure what you're referring to since she was never president.

But if you want to equate Obama to Hillary (since you might say that they're all the same), then why is Trump looking to change the situation ? If it's already that bad (because of "Hillary" ?), then why does Trump need to restore law and order and increase funding and power.

Sounds like you're downplaying everything that Trump says he wants to do, like he can't do it.

If presidents are that powerless, then how was Hillary able to pull off all the damage you're implying she did - and she wasn't even president ?

Smh come on man please don't be this obtuse right now

Hillary has been in washington for 30 YEARS NOW. She was also an NY senator AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE

Her POLICIES WHILE IN THOSE POSITIONS have been more DETRIMENTAL than what you are IMAGINING that trump might do in office

Smh at the bolded. That's how I really know that you have a lot to learn when it comes to what's going on in the world right now

Bruh, saying some shit, or constantly telling people they're wrong, doesn't make it so.

Instead of posting shit about what you think I know and don't know, post the policies that Hillary was responsible for in comparison to Trump's policies - and you'd save yourself a whole lot of posting.

Nah I'm done repeating myself in every thread

I've been posting the same facts for month and moths, you chose to ignore it so that's on you

You can start in this thread then check my post history if you wanna learn about hillary.
http://community.allhiphop.com/discussion/552885/aye-yall-know-hillary-clinton-is-trash-right/p1

I don't understand how a person can say there's no logic to something before knowing all of the facts around that thing but that's just me /shrug

I'll try to get to that later. Question tho - are you saying that Hillary is worse than Trump + Trump is worse than Hillary ?

And fyi trump has never been in political office so he has no "policies" to be responsible for with respect to government legislation

That makes no sense. He said what he plans to do, and now he's president.

That's like saying you can't compare a convicted murderer and someone who never killed but is openly planning a mass shooting or some shit.

I'm saying she's done very bad stuff while being a public official

Trump has never been a public official so any bad stuff he could do is speculation, put up against her actual actions

I do believe she's worse. Trump wasn't supposed to win the election imo, he was put there so people voted for hillary