THE HISTORY AND TRUTH OF THE TRUE BIBLICAL HEBREW Ysraelites

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Ajackson17;8526019 said:
As I stated before we have to DNA testing of ancient hebrews bloodline and ancestry and then you have to use an autosumal dna testing for black folk other than that. That will kill all arguments on this issue. We have to ask ourselves what is Abraham haplogroup? I'm pretty sure it's J haplogroup.

I'll admit, I haven't really looked at the issue from this angle. But I've been skeptical of DNA testing in this way after I saw some of the backlash from that Henry Louis Gates special on PBS....

But id be interested nonetheless. Where does this "ancient Hebrew bloodline" that has been tested originate?
 
Judge_Judah;8526048 said:
Ajackson17;8526019 said:
As I stated before we have to DNA testing of ancient hebrews bloodline and ancestry and then you have to use an autosumal dna testing for black folk other than that. That will kill all arguments on this issue. We have to ask ourselves what is Abraham haplogroup? I'm pretty sure it's J haplogroup.

I'll admit, I haven't really looked at the issue from this angle. But I've been skeptical of DNA testing in this way after I saw some of the backlash from that Henry Louis Gates special on PBS....

But id be interested nonetheless. Where does this "ancient Hebrew bloodline" that has been tested originate?

No Western Scholars can do this, but it will have to be the Black Hebrew Israelites and other African groups to do this. Then have it peer-reviewed. Corpses tbh.

They have also found 1st century jews and did their maternal dna and it's shows it's southern european women dna
http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2013/131008/ncomms3543/pdf/ncomms3543.pdf
 
Judge_Judah;8525985 said:
zzombie;8525966 said:
Judge_Judah;8525883 said:
zzombie;8524630 said:
The igbo are not Hebrews there is no proof of them following Hebrew religion until relatively recently

You probably will never denounce your stance on this issue. And that's fine. But there is a lot of new evidence that supports the theory that they are descendants on the Israelites. And with Ezekiel 37, Deuteronomy 30, and Jeremiah 17 in mind, the remnant of those in Africa that became slave in America (African Americans) seem to fit the prophetic description of the Israelites.

The so called Jewish people have never lost their heritage or been subjected to wide spread slavery as we have....

Check this out
http://www.cjnews.com/uncategorized/nigerian-igbos-said-descendants-israelites

www.africanewscircle.com/2013/06/06/unveiling-the-lies-of-jewish-origin-of-the-igbo-people-and-revealing-the-jewish-agenda-in-igboland/

I briefly read it, and it seems like they stuck to one topic to discredit the theory. And then pointed tho Zionism. Come on man....

Plus not all Israelites reject Christ.

COME ON man my ass the whole igbo jews thing is a falsehood with no proof
 
Here is proof that the Jews were heavily involved in slave brokering. They were told to give the Christians Muslims and Pagans. They gave the muslims Christians and pagans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_slavery#Post-Talmud_to_1800s

here's the evidence of only pagans being enslaved from Africa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire#Zanj_slaves

Now I challenge you to produce 1 Hebrew slave in the Americas or a Slave that spoke Hebrew. Or even an Ethiopian slave.
 
rodneyskinner;8527262 said:
Here is proof that the Jews were heavily involved in slave brokering. They were told to give the Christians Muslims and Pagans. They gave the muslims Christians and pagans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_slavery#Post-Talmud_to_1800s

here's the evidence of only pagans being enslaved from Africa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire#Zanj_slaves

Now I challenge you to produce 1 Hebrew slave in the Americas or a Slave that spoke Hebrew. Or even an Ethiopian slave.

Its gonna take you a while to get through all of that.
https://arianasiresearch.wordpress....-africans-are-hebrew-israelites-part-i-of-ii/
https://arianasiresearch.wordpress....africans-are-hebrew-israelites-part-ii-of-ii/
 
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Ajackson17;8525785 said:
You clearly do not understand computer science which was my major in college and I'm ceritifed to tell you that Binary Code of 0's and 1's is computer language which make up to 256 combinations. Ifa divination clearly is binary code which is supported by the practitioners, computer science experts, and mathematicians.

Voodoo is science and mathematics. The word science derives from Sheshat a neteru(nature, they never called them deities nor gods or goddesses) of the Egyptian cosmology.
 
BangEm_Bart ;8527554 said:
Ajackson17;8525785 said:
You clearly do not understand computer science which was my major in college and I'm ceritifed to tell you that Binary Code of 0's and 1's is computer language which make up to 256 combinations. Ifa divination clearly is binary code which is supported by the practitioners, computer science experts, and mathematicians.

Voodoo is science and mathematics. The word science derives from Sheshat a neteru(nature, they never called them deities nor gods or goddesses) of the Egyptian cosmology.


He's actually telling the truth tho.. doesn't the bible tells you that my people suffer from the lack of knowledge
 
En-Fuego22;8528373 said:
BangEm_Bart ;8527554 said:
Ajackson17;8525785 said:
You clearly do not understand computer science which was my major in college and I'm ceritifed to tell you that Binary Code of 0's and 1's is computer language which make up to 256 combinations. Ifa divination clearly is binary code which is supported by the practitioners, computer science experts, and mathematicians.

Voodoo is science and mathematics. The word science derives from Sheshat a neteru(nature, they never called them deities nor gods or goddesses) of the Egyptian cosmology.


He's actually telling the truth tho.. doesn't the bible tells you that my people suffer from the lack of knowledge


Lack of knowledge of God and his commandments, not worldly knowledge.
 
But he created the natural world and the existence of the mathematical laws wouldn't that constitute to his laws and understanding yahweh.
 
Ajackson17;8525785 said:
You clearly do not understand computer science which was my major in college and I'm ceritifed to tell you that Binary Code of 0's and 1's is computer language which make up to 256 combinations. Ifa divination clearly is binary code which is supported by the practitioners, computer science experts, and mathematicians.

Voodoo is science and mathematics. The word science derives from Sheshat a neteru(nature, they never called them deities nor gods or goddesses) of the Egyptian cosmology.

There is even information on this topic in these links I posted. I'm gonna have to do more studying on the Hyksos period because the information present links it all back to the Hebrew diaspora. Very interesting. Check it out.

Judge_Judah;8527523 said:
rodneyskinner;8527262 said:
Here is proof that the Jews were heavily involved in slave brokering. They were told to give the Christians Muslims and Pagans. They gave the muslims Christians and pagans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_slavery#Post-Talmud_to_1800s

here's the evidence of only pagans being enslaved from Africa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_Ottoman_Empire#Zanj_slaves

Now I challenge you to produce 1 Hebrew slave in the Americas or a Slave that spoke Hebrew. Or even an Ethiopian slave.

Its gonna take you a while to get through all of that.
https://arianasiresearch.wordpress....-africans-are-hebrew-israelites-part-i-of-ii/
https://arianasiresearch.wordpress....africans-are-hebrew-israelites-part-ii-of-ii/

Here is one part

It is interesting to note that the Bambara/Bamana people, that Joseph Eidelberg identified as Hebrew Israelites, also practiced a form of geomantic divination. Although their form of geomancy is different from the Ifá system, it does have the number 16 in common with the Ifá system. The 16 stories attached to each of the Ifá oduns could possibly be related to the 16 divination symbols of the Bamana system.

Ron Eglash, is an American cyberneticist, professor of science and technology studies at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, and author widely known for his work in the field of ethnomathematics, also made comparissons between the Ifá and Bamana divination systems in his book, African Fractals: Modern Computing and Indigenous Design.

 
Judah Back;8528550 said:
Ajackson17;8528536 said:
But he created the natural world and the existence of the mathematical laws wouldn't that constitute to his laws and understanding yahweh.

Laws of metaphysics >>> laws of physics

met·a·phys·ics

ˌmedəˈfiziks/

noun

the branch of philosophy that deals with the first principles of things, including abstract concepts such as being, knowing, substance, cause, identity, time, and space.

abstract theory or talk with no basis in reality.

You have to understand the natural world first to even get in the conceptualization of any philosophical understanding.
 
BangEm_Bart ;8528613 said:
Ajackson17;8528536 said:
But he created the natural world and the existence of the mathematical laws wouldn't that constitute to his laws and understanding yahweh.

Nigga think he smarter than God, lmao

Smarter is a relative term and you are sidestepping and zigzagging. I at least appreciate @"Judah Back" answer, but I have to disagree with him on that.

Also, about that germanic word you keep referring to the creator is degrading

god (n.) Look up god at Dictionary.com

Old English god "supreme being, deity; the Christian God; image of a god; godlike person," from Proto-Germanic *guthan (cognates: Old Saxon, Old Frisian, Dutch god, Old High German got, German Gott, Old Norse guð, Gothic guþ), from PIE *ghut- "that which is invoked" (cognates: Old Church Slavonic zovo "to call," Sanskrit huta- "invoked," an epithet of Indra), from root *gheu(e)- "to call, invoke."

But some trace it to PIE *ghu-to- "poured," from root *gheu- "to pour, pour a libation" (source of Greek khein "to pour," also in the phrase khute gaia "poured earth," referring to a burial mound; see found (v.2)). "Given the Greek facts, the Germanic form may have referred in the first instance to the spirit immanent in a burial mound" [Watkins]. See also Zeus. In either case, not related to good.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=god

Real Hebrew Israelites refer to the creator as "The Most High" or by his proper name.
 
Ajackson17;8528701 said:
Judah Back;8528550 said:
Ajackson17;8528536 said:
But he created the natural world and the existence of the mathematical laws wouldn't that constitute to his laws and understanding yahweh.

Laws of metaphysics >>> laws of physics

met·a·phys·ics

ˌmedəˈfiziks/

noun

the branch of philosophy that deals with the first principles of things, including abstract concepts such as being, knowing, substance, cause, identity, time, and space.

abstract theory or talk with no basis in reality.

You have to understand the natural world first to even get in the conceptualization of any philosophical understanding.

The "natural world" consists of living things. Studying inanimate objects will not lead to understanding energy/spirit. The best way to study the natural world is to observe wild life. This is what you see they did often in Kemet and other ancient cultures.

To make it simple, metaphysics is the study of the energy/spirit that causes things to move in the first place. You studying computer science is not going to lead you to understanding the spirit that resides living things, which is metaphysics.

BTW metaphysics is a simple compound word meaning beyond physics. Its merely the study of energy/spirit, the first cause of things. What causes movement in the first place. The beginning of physics.

 
This niggas using semantics n shyt. People like that hate things to be simple because they want to feel more intelligent than others. They hate the Bible because it makes metaphysics simple for a 5 year old.

Bangem is correct for pointing out you believe you more intelligent than the Most High Spirit (since you wanna act like you don't know what we imply by saying God). The law of the universe has been laid before the people since it was made flesh (Christ, the one who proved the Law was incorruptible). Yet you deem it necessary to reinvent the wheel.

High level masons, temple shriners, etc know that the Law given to Moses and the Israelites is THE Law and their "god" is THE most high Spirit existing. Christ came and proved you can be one with the Source by keeping its Laws. your dictionary even has this

Logos (n.)

1. (often initial capital letter) Philosophy. the rational principle that governs and develops the universe.

2. Theology. the divine word or reason incarnate in Jesus Christ. John 1:1–14
 
Judah Back;8528799 said:
Ajackson17;8528701 said:
Judah Back;8528550 said:
Ajackson17;8528536 said:
But he created the natural world and the existence of the mathematical laws wouldn't that constitute to his laws and understanding yahweh.

Laws of metaphysics >>> laws of physics

met·a·phys·ics

ˌmedəˈfiziks/

noun

the branch of philosophy that deals with the first principles of things, including abstract concepts such as being, knowing, substance, cause, identity, time, and space.

abstract theory or talk with no basis in reality.

You have to understand the natural world first to even get in the conceptualization of any philosophical understanding.

The "natural world" consists of living things. Studying inanimate objects will not lead to understanding energy/spirit. The best way to study the natural world is to observe wild life. This is what you see they did often in Kemet and other ancient cultures.

To make it simple, metaphysics is the study of the energy/spirit that causes things to move in the first place. You studying computer science is not going to lead you to understanding the spirit that resides living things, which is metaphysics.

BTW metaphysics is a simple compound word meaning beyond physics. Its merely the study of energy/spirit, the first cause of things. What causes movement in the first place. The beginning of physics.

Life is the natural world, things that can be observe and tested and the test being duplicated multiple of times for peer review. So energy can be tested and seen. My thing can the supernatural be tested and what are you basing the supernatural to be off. Some people say it cannot be detected by man through the use of no instruments and etc.

Mathematics is the basis of all things in the universe. Everything has a mathematical principle to it and it's the only science where it is absolute. Computer science is created by the observation of living things and reduplicated through the mathematics of binary code.
 
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Studying objects with no life in them is not gonna help you understand life

You keep bring up mathematics, bro you clearly don't know mathematics. If I give you a true parable, I'm talking mathematics. High science. Its deeper than that shyt you learn in public school

mathematic (n.)

late 14c. as singular noun, replaced by early 17c. by mathematics, from Latin mathematica (plural), from Greek mathematike tekhne "mathematical science," feminine singular of mathematikos (adj.) "relating to mathematics, scientific, astronomical; disposed to learn," from mathema (genitive mathematos) "science, knowledge, mathematical knowledge; a lesson," literally "that which is learnt;" related to manthanein "to learn," from PIE root *mendh- "to learn" (cognates: Greek menthere "to care," Lithuanian mandras "wide-awake," Old Church Slavonic madru "wise, sage," Gothic mundonsis "to look at," German munter "awake, lively"). As an adjective, 1540s, from French mathématique or directly from Latin mathematicus.

Its consciousness. If you wanna talk mathematics let's get into the "LESSONS". let's talk that reeeeeeal shyt, that MA'AT shyt, that 5%er gods and earths shyt, that wisdom of Solomon, that masonic, half Islamic shyt

METAPHYSICS.
 
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Judah Back;8528885 said:
Studying objects with no life in them is not gonna help you understand life

You keep bring up mathematics, bro you clearly don't know mathematics. If I give you a true parable, I'm talking mathematics. High science. Its deeper than that shyt you learn in public school

mathematic (n.)

late 14c. as singular noun, replaced by early 17c. by mathematics, from Latin mathematica (plural), from Greek mathematike tekhne "mathematical science," feminine singular of mathematikos (adj.) "relating to mathematics, scientific, astronomical; disposed to learn," from mathema (genitive mathematos) "science, knowledge, mathematical knowledge; a lesson," literally "that which is learnt;" related to manthanein "to learn," from PIE root *mendh- "to learn" (cognates: Greek menthere "to care," Lithuanian mandras "wide-awake," Old Church Slavonic madru "wise, sage," Gothic mundonsis "to look at," German munter "awake, lively"). As an adjective, 1540s, from French mathématique or directly from Latin mathematicus.

Its consciousness. If you wanna talk mathematics let's get into the "LESSONS". let's talk that reeeeeeal shyt, that MA'AT shyt, that 5%er gods and earths shyt, that wisdom of Solomon, that masonic, half Islamic shyt

METAPHYSICS.

“This myth [of African primitivism] is particularly ironic in the case of information technologies, given that the binary code appears to have a distinct African origin (Eglash 1997a). The modern binary code, essential to every digital circuit from alarm clocks to super-computers, was first introduced by Leibnitz around 1670. Leibniz had been inspired by the binary-based “logic machine” of Raymond Lull, which was in turn inspired by the alchemists’ divination practice of geomancy (Skinner 1980). But geomancy is clearly not of European origin. It was first introduced there by Hugo of Santalla in twelfth century Spain, and Islamic scholars had been using it in North Africa since at least the 9th century, where it was first documented in written records by the Jewish writer Aran ben Joseph. The nearly identical system of divination in West Africa associated with Ifa and Ifa was first noted by Trautmann (1939), but he assumed that geomancy originated in Arabic society, where it is known as ilm al-raml (“the science of sand”).The mathematical basis of geomancy is, however, strikingly out of place in non-African systems. Unlike Europe, India, and Arabic cultures, base 2 calculation is ubiquitous in Africa, even for multiplication and division. Doubling is a frequent theme in many other African knowledge systems, particularly divination. The African origin of geomancy — and thus, via Lull and Leibnitz, the binary code — is well supported.” –http://homepages.rpi.edu/~eglash/eglash.dir/ethnic.dir/r4cyb.dir/r4cybh.htm
https://arianasiresearch.wordpress....africans-are-hebrew-israelites-part-ii-of-ii/
 

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