The HELLCAT is here!!

[IgnorantSole]

http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/hot-laps-around-pir-in-the-707-horsepower-hellcat-1606823999/+pgeorge

that car body rolls like an obese retard. i don't know where the niche for this car is at all. dodge is heading the opposite direction of everybody else.

spending 60k on a car today that lacks the ability to finesse the corners properly is a complete failure.

-Chevy ZL1, 55k, lapped the ring in 7:41, well balanced weapon on AND off the track

-Ford GT500, 60k, lapped the ring in 7:39, monster on and off the track

-Chevy Z/28, 85k, lapped the ring in 7:31, taken out super cars on the TRACK

don't get me wrong the car is sexy, but for 60 grand you can get so much more for your money. and if you just wanna go fast at the strip why not get serious and cop the cobrajet or copo camaro. dodge has not one answer for chevy of ford's top dawgs.

 

[wilberdmillz]

@IgnorantSole, There hasnt even been any track times released for this car yet and you've come to that conclusion? Don't get me wrong, I don't expect this car to lap track as fast as the cars you mentioned but I'm sure the numbers will be closer than we think. As I said in another post though, ANYBODY buying the Challenger to take it to a autox/roadcourse is doing it wrong anyway. This car will be a beast on the street, and thats where I have my fun.

 

[IgnorantSole]

Did you watch the video? Do you know what proper corner temperament looks like? I just sharedYou don't have to show me a time to be able to see poor entry speed, horrible body roll, understeer, inability to make the apex, and latent acceleration out of the corner. You can close your eyes and HEAR the car understeer. Like I said it's a beautiful car, in a straight line. But but sleeping in the corners and only being able to bulldog the straights when the car is razor straight, doesn't cut it for ME. The whole muscle car argument has always been "too big, won't turn" and what did dodge make? A car that's overweight, and can't turn.

It was said in this thread that it will best the ZL1, GT500, and GTR. That it's competition is in those cars. If you can justify spending 60k to get speeding tickets on the freeway then that's fine. I ain't hating or bashing the car, it is what it is. But you can't tell sell me on it being a better car because they strapped a rocket on it and said it can go straight. @wilberdmillz

 

[wilberdmillz]

Yes, I've watched the video, it was posted on another site I post on. Most seem to think that for its size it was well mannered, I'd agree. I'm going to wait til more test are done and we actually have some numbers to base this off of since you brought up numbers. I'm not into corner carving so I'd concede that argument to you since it seems thats what you like.

As far as your last paragraph, yeah those cars were brought up as competition...........on the street. I know thats where I have my fun so thats what I'm concerned about. Got to youtube and type in Mustang vs Camaro vs Challenger, I bet 99% of the videos will be drag or street racing. If you like the Autox/road racing I'd advise you not to buy a Mustang, Camaro, or Challenger. That hustling backwards. Also I haven't seen anybody in this thread say the Hellcat is a better car than any of the comp, just that it will/should be faster on the street/highway. Well maybe @menance has said it better but you gotta excuse him lol. @Ignorantsole

 

[IgnorantSole]

i can respect the street and strip, that's where i started when i was younger. but when somebody put my "fast in a straight line" ass behind the wheel of a Z06 at 17 and said "take that corner", i put that car ass backwards in the grass, but was hooked.

i've seen camaros and mustangs at track days that scare the shit outta euro cars ZL1s, 1LEs, 302s, GT500s, etc so i know the new cars with the new tech and some shop time can move. built not bought @wilberdmillz

 

[Chef_Taylor]

Who cares about fucking corners tho... niggas nit pick.Bottom line is the 2015 hellcat challenger is the best muscle car that has been made yet......deal with it. #MOPAR

 

[IgnorantSole]

You'll care about it when you punch around a corner and get too many of those 707 started. If you've never gunned it out of a stoplight or stop sign, into a turn, and let the ass slide out a little is take you for a liar.

I'm a car guy of course a nigga gone "nit pick" on "best car" claims. Say most powerful muscle car, that's what it is, best in a straight line, that's what it is. But you can't claim best by 0-60 and ET, with a sorry ass lap time, slalom time, and cross times, that's how cars are tested, and that's how they're rated, like it or not, she a one trick pony in a class of talented dancers

 

[Chef_Taylor]

True...im seeing alot of burnout videos of the car i have yet to see it in a straight line or doing corners. I thought corvette owned the best times you're talking @gaclay

 

[IgnorantSole]

Corvettes are halo cars, complete different monsters

 

[_Menace_]

@IgnorantSole talking all this shit

come bring that ss and line em up!

 

[IgnorantSole]

@_menace_ what shit talk? that's straight facts. i know mopar heavy on the forum, but don't talk like the cars don't have their weak points. i'm a chevy boy to the core but i know what our cars can and can't do, and i won't talk myself into a corner.

as far as my SS you can run with her anytime you want, either with me or the new owner, she's proven street and track. but humor me this an R/T weigh 4253 lbs dry, 370 horses, rear wheel drive, on street tires; my truck is just under 5000 wet, almost twice your horses, all wheel drive, on race wheels. who wins?

 

[_Menace_]

LINE EM UP!

I dont care if you got 1000HP line em up

 

[Chef_Taylor]

I did the dash tonight that bitch did every bit of 160.....stick was right on the zero.My baby stock if i modify that thang its go be a scary site.

 

[wilberdmillz]

You'll care about it when you punch around a corner and get too many of those 707 started. If you've never gunned it out of a stoplight or stop sign, into a turn, and let the ass slide out a little is take you for a liar.

I'm a car guy of course a nigga gone "nit pick" on "best car" claims. Say most powerful muscle car, that's what it is, best in a straight line, that's what it is. But you can't claim best by 0-60 and ET, with a sorry ass lap time, slalom time, and cross times, that's how cars are tested, and that's how they're rated, like it or not, she a one trick pony in a class of talented dancers

Dude, do you know something we don't? Besides drag time no other numbers for this car has been released. What are you basing your statements on? Tell me how many G's the Hellcat has pulled? What's the 60-0 braking distance? Whats the slalom speed? I mean, you seem to know all these thing while nobody else does. @ignorantsole

@IgnorantSole talking all this shit

come bring that ss and line em up!

Wait, this the dude that has the Built SS truck that can't even out trap a stock SRT? @_Menace_‌

 

[_Menace_]

You'll care about it when you punch around a corner and get too many of those 707 started. If you've never gunned it out of a stoplight or stop sign, into a turn, and let the ass slide out a little is take you for a liar.

I'm a car guy of course a nigga gone "nit pick" on "best car" claims. Say most powerful muscle car, that's what it is, best in a straight line, that's what it is. But you can't claim best by 0-60 and ET, with a sorry ass lap time, slalom time, and cross times, that's how cars are tested, and that's how they're rated, like it or not, she a one trick pony in a class of talented dancers

Dude, do you know something we don't? Besides drag time no other numbers for this car has been released. What are you basing your statements on? Tell me how many G's the Hellcat has pulled? What's the 60-0 braking distance? Whats the slalom speed? I mean, you seem to know all these thing while nobody else does. @ignorantsole

@IgnorantSole talking all this shit

come bring that ss and line em up!

Wait, this the dude that has the Built SS truck that can't even out trap a stock SRT? @_Menace_‌

Yup if I modify my RT it's a wrap

Shit I'll go head tot head with it stock

 

[Chef_Taylor]

Read on a charger website...the 2015 SRT8 will be the fastest 4-door sedan ever produced.Hellcat powered as with the challenger.

I can't wait to see this.

 

[_Menace_]

Read on a charger website...the 2015 SRT8 will be the fastest 4-door sedan ever produced.Hellcat powered as with the challenger.

I can't wait to see this.

I hope its not the new body style

 

[_Menace_]

bruh....

this looks like a damn mustang. these dodge designers fucking up. They hit it on the head with the 10-14 models. these 15's looked ugly af

 

[Chef_Taylor]

Thats not the official look @menace

 

[Chef_Taylor]

It may look simular to this

Which dont look to bad but if it will be the fastest 4-door sedan as they say it will be the performance and upgrades under the hood outweigh what the exterior lookin like.I want that hellcat.