The Dumb Ass Excuses HBCU Alumni Give for Not Donating Money to Their Alma Maters

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How HBCUs Can Increase Alumni Donation Rates, con'd

Most of the respondents said they weren’t asked to give. Eighty-four percent said they would support the school using their time, talent and finances.

“Other findings included a willingness to support a future annual fund, to engage in more volunteer opportunities and to be contacted more frequently,” the guide says.

More active engagement includes conducting alumni trainings, encouraging volunteerism and appointing a fundraising ambassador.

In the past, many HBCUs have utilized alumni associations to gain alumni donations. But according to Gasman and Bowman, membership to those associations has decreased in the past 30 years.

They said it’s because alumni don’t think membership has benefits, and HBCUs and their national alumni associations have poor relationships. If the alumni associations aren’t reliable, alumni definitely will neither want to join nor donate.

Another reason alumni associations could deter alumni from donating is the lack of accepting social media. Young alumni are more willing to respond to social networking sites rather than to email and mailboxes. If administrators accept social media, they could use it to solicit friends and funding on behalf of their institutions.


Young alumni aren’t the only people that need to be reached.

“[HBCUs] need to start educating alumni when they are students,” Gasman said.

The guide says, “there are numerous opportunities in which to involve future alumni …”

One way is to get students in the habit of donating their time and talent. The United Negro College Fund’s (UNCF) Pre-Alumni Council does a good job of doing that by annually raising money from students to stimulate their interest and participation.

Starting Association of Fundraising Professionals (AFP) chapters, which educate students about philanthropy and fundraising professions, could also encourage both current student and alumni giving.

Current students can also contact alumni through phone-a-thons and other caller methods in order to reach out to and solicit funds from those alumni. Still, students and institutions can’t do all the work alone.

“The president must be vocal on a national level,” Gasman said. “I also think that private philanthropy and the federal government should invest in infrastructure building in the area of fundraising.”

“The most popular program that encourages fundraising among HBCUs is UNCF. Although it deals solely with private institutions, its programs and practices can be used as blueprints for all HBCUs.

One such program is the Institute for Capacity Building (ICB), which, according to its website, “strengthens the infrastructure, programs, systems, policies, procedures, practices and human capital that support, sustain and advance an institution’s mission.”

Linda Curiel is the director of the Institutional Advancement Program (IAP) for ICB.

“We’re basically helping to share the best practices in fundraising,” Curiel said.

She said the IAP does an assessment of UNCF members and guides them based on their financial needs.

“It’s really important to meet institutions where they are,” Curiel said. The IAP guides UNCF members who received grants through the ICB and provides strategies, technical support and consultative services for advancement professionals.

Since participating, Bennett College for Women, Huston-Tillotson University, Talladega College and Virginia Union University have shown average increases of 78 percent and 68 percent in alumni giving and participation, respectively.

Another participating institution that has greatly benefitted from its IAP involvement, as well as has received national attention for its alumni giving rates, is Claflin University, which received a $1.5 million grant from UNCF and has a 45 percent alumni giving rate as of 2012.

“We teach our students what it means to be philanthropic,” said Marcus Burgess, director of Alumni Affairs and Annual Funds at Claflin.

Burgess, who early on visited several other HBCUs in fundraising, said much of Claflin’s success is based on its class agent program, which asks members to encourage alumni engagement and participation.

He said the phone-a-thon turning into a fully operating call center that operates eight months a year has also increased alumni giving.

“[Giving back] shows that you are grateful for the education you’ve received,” Burgess said.

Although Claflin has enjoyed much recent success with alumni donations, Burgess said many HBCUs aren’t because they don’t have enough publicity and credibility.

“We’re strong institutions,” Burgess said. “We need credit for producing such great leaders.”


This is some shit that simply has a muthafucka shakin' his muthafuckin' head. I know that part of the reason Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Sanford, Berkeley, and NYC, etc. are the institutions they are today is because of their active alumni and these schools have multibillion dollar endowments due to the philanthropy of their ballin' ass alumni. I'm a Johnny and should I ever get in the position I'm going to give some money in exchange for the Vincentians dedicating a tree or a bench to me. I'm also gonna give some money to TCI, my high schools, the junior highs and elementary schools that I went to. More importantly, (though I never went to one,) I'm going to give money to HBCU because I understand, recognize, and most importantly, I appreciate the role they play in educating black students, especially in these days and times.

These black alums are just fuckin' sad and need to ashamed of themselves. These high sidin' boule negroes are more concerned with flossin' and layin' up under white people than improving the condition of black people. Not wanting to donate money because you have a bad experience with bursar, financial aid, or registrar's office twenty years ago. Muthafucka get over yourself. If it's that serious tell president of the school to fix that shit be you donate those ends. And having the nerve to fix your mouth to say that you're not giving back because the school didn't ask. Muthafucka, they shouldn't have to ask. Like my dad used to say, "my people, my people.
 
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he number one reason is that they had a negative experience with financial aid, the bursar or the registrar

i graduated from Morgan st., believe me when i tell you niggas hated going to Montebello to deal with those fucking idiots. Here are the main issues:

1. Rampant use of(or lack of) outdated technology; most shit is still done via paper.

2. People working there dont give a fuck usually; most are older woman who were hired way back when before the widespread use of modern tech that make students lives and their job easier.

3. This leads to the Runaround; ive spent countless precious hours in that fucking building being sent from dept to dept and no one wants to communicate.

Black colleges are great, but gotta I tell anyone who is about to go to a hbcu to make sure they play no games when it comes to school money and dealing with their bursar.

This all happens in the same dilapidated building my own mother had to deal with when she went to morgan in the 70's. Apparently its supposed to be decommissioned soon but who knows with how they handle shit
 
huey;9394979 said:
he number one reason is that they had a negative experience with financial aid, the bursar or the registrar

i graduated from Morgan st., believe me when i tell you niggas hated going to Montebello to deal with those fucking idiots. Here are the main issues:

1. Rampant use of(or lack of) outdated technology; most shit is still done via paper.

2. People working there dont give a fuck usually; most are older woman who were hired way back when before the widespread use of modern tech that make students lives and their job easier.

3. This leads to the Runaround; ive spent countless precious hours in that fucking building being sent from dept to dept and no one wants to communicate.

Black colleges are great, but gotta I tell anyone who is about to go to a hbcu to make sure they play no games when it comes to school money and dealing with their bursar.

This all happens in the same dilapidated building my own mother had to deal with when she went to morgan in the 70's. Apparently its supposed to be decommissioned soon but who knows with how they handle shit

You make it seem like a collegiate remix version of applying for welfare.
 
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My PWI (predominately white institution) couldn't get two Sacagawea dollar coins from me.

I remember during my junior year when the financial aid people came to our class. I felt like "Black Waldo" being the only person who raised my hand in a sea of cacs cruising off mommy & daddy's money.

The only thing I'll donate to my alma mater is a screen grab of a middle finger, and a EBT card with insufficient funds.
 
I gave to my college(not a HBCU). I am actually trying to get a veteran wall built by donation. Buy a brick and have your name etched on it.
 
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huey;9394979 said:
he number one reason is that they had a negative experience with financial aid, the bursar or the registrar

i graduated from Morgan st., believe me when i tell you niggas hated going to Montebello to deal with those fucking idiots. Here are the main issues:

1. Rampant use of(or lack of) outdated technology; most shit is still done via paper.

2. People working there dont give a fuck usually; most are older woman who were hired way back when before the widespread use of modern tech that make students lives and their job easier.

3. This leads to the Runaround; ive spent countless precious hours in that fucking building being sent from dept to dept and no one wants to communicate.

Black colleges are great, but gotta I tell anyone who is about to go to a hbcu to make sure they play no games when it comes to school money and dealing with their bursar.

This all happens in the same dilapidated building my own mother had to deal with when she went to morgan in the 70's. Apparently its supposed to be decommissioned soon but who knows with how they handle shit

I went to hampton and I've hardly donated because of that very reason.

I got my letter of admittance in late June esrly july and that's late as hell. I thought i was the only one until recently i talked to alumn and the same thing happened to them in the 70s 80s 90s
 
huey;9394979 said:
he number one reason is that they had a negative experience with financial aid, the bursar or the registrar

i graduated from Morgan st., believe me when i tell you niggas hated going to Montebello to deal with those fucking idiots. Here are the main issues:

1. Rampant use of(or lack of) outdated technology; most shit is still done via paper.

2. People working there dont give a fuck usually; most are older woman who were hired way back when before the widespread use of modern tech that make students lives and their job easier.

3. This leads to the Runaround; ive spent countless precious hours in that fucking building being sent from dept to dept and no one wants to communicate.

Black colleges are great, but gotta I tell anyone who is about to go to a hbcu to make sure they play no games when it comes to school money and dealing with their bursar.

This all happens in the same dilapidated building my own mother had to deal with when she went to morgan in the 70's. Apparently its supposed to be decommissioned soon but who knows with how they handle shit

Same at Alabama A&M and most other HBCUs...for some reason its all the same exp. They REALLY need to fix that.
 
I helped give my alma mater (Delaware State) an Alumni Band, which generated revenue from people who normally didn't care about homecoming and shit. I'd say I did my job.

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Just like I say when it comes to black businesses, if you want the support of your customers, do right by them.

The HBCU experience is bittersweet. You gain valuable lessons in addition to a collegiate education but the administration side of it is fucked up. From campus housing, to meal plans, to campus parking, outrageous book store prices, to the all-notorious financial aid office. How many presidents keep their jobs for more than 5 years before some political BS with a corrupt board of trustees forces them out?
 
soul rattler;9395239 said:
Just like I say when it comes to black businesses, if you want the support of your customers, do right by them.

The HBCU experience is bittersweet. You gain valuable lessons in addition to a collegiate education but the administration side of it is fucked up. How many presidents keep their jobs for more than 5 years before some political BS with a corrupt board of trustees forces them out?

As opposed to what school? Despite being around for 140 years, St. John's didn't get dorms until 26 years ago because the neighbors hated and as anybody will tell you parking at the Queens campus is a complete and total cluster fuck.

soul rattler;9395239 said:
outrageous book store prices,

Again, what school doesn't have an overpriced book store?

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to the all-notorious financial aid office.

I can't comment on this. I didn't have any problems with the TCI and Johnny financial aid people. Though City Tech fucked me in the game by neglecting to tell me that if my credits fell below 12 that I wouldn't be a full time student and I'd have to pay for my classes. They sent me a check and I spent the money. Needless to say, I was livid and threw a gang of files out of a file cabinet in the business office.

Those Vincentians are serious about getting their money. The only reason I became a Johnny was because I procrastinated with registering at a 4 year and St. John's was still taking applications in and around Thanksgiving being that I didn't want to wait another fucking 8 months because I was bored out of mind, I say fuck trying to get into Columbia or NYC, so when the Johnnies came calling I had to fuck with it.


soul rattler;9395239 said:
How many presidents keep their jobs for more than 5 years before some political BS with a corrupt board of trustees forces them out?

This isn't unique to HBCU's

Disgraced dean helped St. John's University president live large
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...t-john-president-live-large-article-1.1187112

BY JOHN MARZULLI

NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Thursday, October 18, 2012, 9:43 PM


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The Rev. Donald Harrington admitted to accepting expensive gifts from ex-dean Cecilia Chang, who is on trial for bribing students to act as her servants in exchange for scholarships. (JESSE WARD FOR NEW YORK DAILY NEWS)

Most priests take a vow of poverty. But not the president of St. John’s University.

The Rev. Donald Harrington admitted to staying in luxurious hotels on a half-dozen trips to Asia, with extended stopovers in Hawaii to ease his jet lag. The trips were with a delegation of school officials led by disgraced dean Cecilia Chang, who is on trial for bribing students to act as her personal servants in exchange for scholarships
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Following Chang’s advice that it was a cultural faux pas to turn down gifts, Harrington said he was fitted for suits at the famed Sam’s Tailor in Hong Kong, and accepted a Patek Philippe wristwatch, which later cost $1,600 to repair.

He also accepted an Omega wristwatch that he didn’t even wear.

Harrington was subjected to a blistering cross-examination Thursday by Chang’s lawyer about expensive gifts he accepted from Chang and donors during her tenure as dean of the university’s Asian Center.

Harrington said he does not receive a salary, but gets a $200-a-month stipend and also subsists on an inheritance. Federal Judge Sterling Johnson ruled that Harrington did not have to answer a question about how much he inherited.


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Jesse Ward/for New York Daily News

Chang is accused of stealing more than $1 million from the university for personal expenses, travel and gambling.


Harrington, a member of the order of St. Vincent de Paul, which champions the needs of the poor, acknowledged that while in Hong Kong he roomed at the venerable Peninsula hotel and the Regent Hotel’s presidential suite.

As a cushy respite from jet lag on their journey home to Queens, the jet-setting priest testified the delegation stayed at the Four Seasons Kona resort in Hawaii.

“For five days?” asked Chang’s defense attorney, Stephen Mahler.

“I think it varied, three or four days,” Harrington corrected.

“The board of trustees at the university always instructed me to stay at full-service, comfortable hotels because I would be doing heavy work when I was away,” he said, adding that one Hawaiian stay-over was paid for by an alumnus and another by an unidentified donor.

Chang had organized the trips to raise money for the university, and he said she brought in millions.

“The plans were always made by Cecilia Chang on her advice,” he said. “I went along because she indicated that it was very important for the image of the university that we stay at hotels like that.”


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Harrington rested up at Hawaiian spa and other pricey hotels.


But her high life came crashing down after an anonymous whistleblower sent a letter written in Chinese to the board of trustees.

Chang is accused of stealing more than $1 million for personal expenses, travel and gambling, and was forcing students to work as housekeepers and chauffeurs in order to keep their scholarships.

The priest was also questioned about a waterfront home he owns in Cape Cod. Harrington said he bought the home in 1999 and split the $350,000 purchase price with the university’s former chief operating officer.

Harrington said Chang gave him cash to give to the poor, but he had not kept records of the amounts.

“The first time she gave it to me it was $2,000,” he said. “I have a drawer in my office which I keep locked when people give me money for the poor.”

He acknowledged that Chang had done much good for the university before she was arrested by the Queens district attorney’s office and the Brooklyn U.S. attorney in 2010.

“The way St. John’s functions, counsel, we trust our employees unless there’s a reason not to,” Harrington said. jmarzulli@nydailynews.com


And Father Harrington was supposedly hitting off is volleyball coach boyfriend and the dean bitch committed that. I share these articles with you to show that these problems aren't unique to HBCU's and with donations you control the narrative and have the ability to fix the problem so that next group of students don't have to deal with that bullshit.
 
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In light of the events of November 8, not only the alumni, but black people in general need to step up and start donating to HBCUs. Now it's a matter of necessity and urgency.
 
The #1 complaint I've heard from people who I know who've went to HBCU's is issues with financial aid/the financial aid office and misappropriation of funds. Yes it happens at other schools but it's hard to paint HBCU's as better when they're suffering from the same issues w/o as much funding to cover up what those missing funds take away from.
 
Shit, A&T call my line it seems every month asking for some money. I gave em 125 for their 125th anniversary first of the year, and told em that's all they getting from me until my loans paid off in a few years
 

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