The devil loves you

[kingblaze84]

Shame the Devil and speak the truth somebody

all those pics are horrifying but the boy under 'needs' just gets me mad. if there's one thing that no one in this world should be doing, its going hungry.

I agree, there's plenty of food out there. But it's not distributed or grown evenly, drought and desertification is making the problem worse. Even in America, 1 in 6 goes hungry every night. Imagine how nations with really bad economies or weather conditions are doing.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/venezuela

Friday 13 May 2016

Crowds steal flour, chicken and underwear in looting spree in Venezuela

Episodes of looting increase as basic products run short in oil-exporting country, with opposition blaming president’s economic policies



Crowds of people in Venezuela have stolen flour, chicken and even underwear this week as looting increases across the country in the wake of shortages of many basic products. Many people have adopted the habit of getting up in the dead of night to spend hours in long lines in front of supermarkets. But as more end up empty-handed and black market prices soar, plundering is rising in Venezuela, an Opec nation that was already one of the world’s most violent countries.

 

[kingblaze84]

The devil didn't really do anything bad in the Adam and Eve story. It simply wanted to give humans knowledge, clarity, and the ability to understand its environment. Considering the tyrannical and reckless Bible god admits to creating calamity/evil, who can really blame Adam for eating that apple? Adam probably didn't trust the nigga lol

Either way, clarity and freedom of thought are great things, nothing wrong with thinking for oneself, instead of one book doing all the thinking for you.

@kingblaze84 have you seen that video claiming a little boy "schooling" his atheist teacher about God

Saying God didn't create evil, it's what happened when man doesn't have the love of God in his heart or some shit like that?

And cold is the absence of heat according to the law of physics

He said the physics analogy first I guess to pull the blanket over people's eyes, but I thought god was omnipresent so there could never be a time when God or his presence was absent

[y]https://youtu.be/Y3qjDF9ksJU[/y]

I'm busy at work but I'll definitely be watching this video tonight.....looks very interesting.

It's only 2 min long video.

Btw ppl use those type of images to get emotional response from the audience which clouds their ability to think rationally...u atheist btw? Or agnostic ?

Well I work a pretty busy job (law firm paralegal) and I can't get distracted watching videos now, but I'll check it out when I have time tonight. Images are powerful things and right or wrong, they usually get their point across.....

I lean towards there being some kind of higher power, but I'm not sure if this higher power is worthy of being called a god or not. It could just be a giant magical guinea pig in the sky for all I know, so I guess you can classify me as being agnostic.

Gotcha. I was raised in a pro Christian household, at one point went agnostic for a few years without even knowing that's what it was called, but eventually i got cut spiritually/convicted when i sought council from a Christian minister during a time I was struggling with faith and the Bible. The same evening I caught a case and was facing felony charges. Made it out with misdemeanor but another story. Ever since then I pretty much been a Bible student and renewed my stance as a Christian (stil WIP) .

Aight I feel you, I've heard stories like that several times before. I remember praying to get me out of some jams and I believed the prayers worked, but the funny thing is it seems my own personal luck has grown after becoming non-religious. It seems since I've stopped being Christian, things are going more my way and I can handle life's daily struggles with more peace and sense in my mind. So I respect your story, it's understandable why you feel that way but I wonder about those who pray and seem to have no luck.

More power to ya. A person don't necessarily have to be a Christian to be considered having a good heart, or to be blessed with nice things.

It's tough to say why every particular person get blessed with certain things despite them being this or that, or why certain ppl prayer isnt heard. understand though, biblically speaking prayer is a privilege (mainly) of Christians...it's generally something most effective if done by a Christian. God doesn't necessarily hear prayer from just anybody especially those who haven't atoned for the bad things they've done in past.

Why do you say prayer is more effective as a Christian though, there are plenty of people with no religion or different religions who might have great luck praying.

There's clues in the Bible about how it works...I say mainly Christians because they are the ones who have a covenant relationships with the Son, but the bible mentions stuff like "the prayers of a righteous man avail much" and in another place hint that a person's sins can get in the way of God hearing their prayer.

Your are correct . God hears the prayers of everybody but he cannot always do something about it because the person is still living incorrectly or still has far too much wickedness in their hearts, so we limit the power of god in our lives by doing wrong things.

Also people have this faulty notion that prayer is for god to give them something but that is not what prayer is really for ( but it can happen) prayer is primarily for the individual to align themselves with god so that he can give them what he wanted to give the in the first place.

What does god want to give you??? read the bible, pray and study and you will find out.

So when a 6 year old kid with a brain tumor prays to "god" and suffers a brutal death until the end, he or she didn't get the prayer answered because they had too much wickedness in their hearts? Give me a damn break LMAO that's one of the silliest things I've ever heard in my entire life. I guess when kids are born with holes in their heart or born paralyzed, and they pray for better days, they have to accept that god wanted them to have an entire life of suffering. Geez, that sounds very nice.

 

[wmj710]

The devil is a tranny.

 

[Fosheezy]

The devil didn't really do anything bad in the Adam and Eve story. It simply wanted to give humans knowledge, clarity, and the ability to understand its environment. Considering the tyrannical and reckless Bible god admits to creating calamity/evil, who can really blame Adam for eating that apple? Adam probably didn't trust the nigga lol

Either way, clarity and freedom of thought are great things, nothing wrong with thinking for oneself, instead of one book doing all the thinking for you.

@kingblaze84 have you seen that video claiming a little boy "schooling" his atheist teacher about God

Saying God didn't create evil, it's what happened when man doesn't have the love of God in his heart or some shit like that?

And cold is the absence of heat according to the law of physics

He said the physics analogy first I guess to pull the blanket over people's eyes, but I thought god was omnipresent so there could never be a time when God or his presence was absent

[y]https://youtu.be/Y3qjDF9ksJU[/y]

I'm busy at work but I'll definitely be watching this video tonight.....looks very interesting.

It's only 2 min long video.

Btw ppl use those type of images to get emotional response from the audience which clouds their ability to think rationally...u atheist btw? Or agnostic ?

Well I work a pretty busy job (law firm paralegal) and I can't get distracted watching videos now, but I'll check it out when I have time tonight. Images are powerful things and right or wrong, they usually get their point across.....

I lean towards there being some kind of higher power, but I'm not sure if this higher power is worthy of being called a god or not. It could just be a giant magical guinea pig in the sky for all I know, so I guess you can classify me as being agnostic.

Gotcha. I was raised in a pro Christian household, at one point went agnostic for a few years without even knowing that's what it was called, but eventually i got cut spiritually/convicted when i sought council from a Christian minister during a time I was struggling with faith and the Bible. The same evening I caught a case and was facing felony charges. Made it out with misdemeanor but another story. Ever since then I pretty much been a Bible student and renewed my stance as a Christian (stil WIP) .

Aight I feel you, I've heard stories like that several times before. I remember praying to get me out of some jams and I believed the prayers worked, but the funny thing is it seems my own personal luck has grown after becoming non-religious. It seems since I've stopped being Christian, things are going more my way and I can handle life's daily struggles with more peace and sense in my mind. So I respect your story, it's understandable why you feel that way but I wonder about those who pray and seem to have no luck.

More power to ya. A person don't necessarily have to be a Christian to be considered having a good heart, or to be blessed with nice things.

It's tough to say why every particular person get blessed with certain things despite them being this or that, or why certain ppl prayer isnt heard. understand though, biblically speaking prayer is a privilege (mainly) of Christians...it's generally something most effective if done by a Christian. God doesn't necessarily hear prayer from just anybody especially those who haven't atoned for the bad things they've done in past.

Why do you say prayer is more effective as a Christian though, there are plenty of people with no religion or different religions who might have great luck praying.

There's clues in the Bible about how it works...I say mainly Christians because they are the ones who have a covenant relationships with the Son, but the bible mentions stuff like "the prayers of a righteous man avail much" and in another place hint that a person's sins can get in the way of God hearing their prayer.

Ehhh that's questionable because many kids are innocent, pray, and still end up with horrible, natural diseases. And many times they're untreatable and makes the child suffer unnecessarily. What kind of sins does a 3 year old kid have, to not have his or her prayers answered if things like that come up? Meanwhile, plenty of people lead greedy, "sinful", and selfish lives and seem to have their way all the time. It doesn't seem likely being Christian gives anyone a distinct advantage on prayer or really anything else in life, there are plenty of lucky Muslims or non-religious people out there.

innocent children have privilege of prayer, they don't have an issue of sin stopping their prayers from reaching God. I have no idea why God may or may not simply wipe away some people afflictions when born with them, i don't know his plans like that...i mean it might look like they suffer unnecessarily to US, but in the Bible it's mentioned that in other ways that we may not be able to detect God reveals his glory through them. Like when the disciples asked Jesus why the blind man was born that way.

You gotta realize everybody suffer with SOME kind of problems in life...there's both good and bad things about their life. Just because i'm afflicted by one thing whether lifelong or not, you think about gonna let it rob me of my happiness or that im gonna ignore all the other good things i have? Not me! There's people with everything a man could want who still are miserable and commit suicide, and there's people who are homeless or have nothing that seem happy as ever.

Like i said it a person doesn't have to be Christian or righteous to be blessed. but that's not the REASON they may be blessed. And remember, just because they seem blessed now doesn't mean it's going to always be that way.

"Behold, these are the ungodly, who are always at ease; they increase in riches. Surely I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocence. For all day long I have been plagued, and chastened every morning. If I had said, "I will speak thus," Behold, I would have been untrue to the generation of Your children. When I thought how to understand this, it was too painful for me -- until I went into the sanctuary of God; then I understood their end. Surely You set them in slippery places; You cast them down to destruction. Oh, how they are brought to desolation, as in a moment! They are utterly consumed with terrors" (Psalms 73:12-19).

in contrast, one of the differences with a Christians and the innocent is that they have spiritual blessings that will never go away even beyond death. that's what's really important. it's not just the physical stuff.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Assuming things really get that bad worldwide, what do you think this god would do? I'm not sure humans would act better or more humane if things hit rock bottom either, people if anything would be more likely to turn into savages.

I hope god wouldn't do anything, how insulting to give humans all these faculties to be great and then god steps in a does shit for us, that kind of thing takes away from the opportunity to learn from mistakes. And people tend to get a different perspective after they've lost practically everything.

Wow, you would hope god does nothing? Geez, even most religious people hope it does something someday lol but I respect your opinion. I'm not religious so I don't expect much on a worldwide basis but after reading the news today, I think a little divine intervention wouldn't hurt. Many people can't even help or take care of themselves, especially since their countries are bankrupt or don't have the resources.

Holy heaven, god has tried, he's begged, he's pleaded, he's slaughtered, he's sacrificed himself, there is nothing that is gonna wake these humans up!!! Except, maybe them almost wiping themselves out.

Maybe humans haven't "woken up" because god didn't try hard enough to gain the attention and respect of mankind. What is this god doing now, in the age of Youtube, Twitter, and Snapchat? Nowhere to be found. And what do you mean god pleaded, I don't see any gods begging and pleading anywhere.

God doesn't beg anymore, learned long ago humans were too selfish to notice.

 

[soul rattler]

The devil loves me? The devil knew that without wisdom or understanding; knowledge of good and evil is a curse. I never knew of evil, so how could I avoid getting caught in the snares of evil? God knew, god said not to touch that shit, cuz god knew without wisdom and understanding, knowledge of good and evil is a death sentence.

Devil didn't tell me, "oh btw, you won't have that knowledge right away, it gathers over time, mistake after mistake after mistake, and that's only if you learn from the mistake."

There is no wisdom without knowledge. That's called foolishness; to profess to understand without even knowing.

YEAH NOW thanks to the snake

That doesn't even make any fucking sense.

 

[soul rattler]

A child knows fire is hot because his mother tells him so. He understands what 'fire is hot' means when he touches it for himself. Wisdom is the application of that understanding.

A child understands what "fire is hot" means when the child knows the definition of the words fire, is, and hot. Simply being told a fact is not equivalent to knowing or understanding it. If you cannot comprehend what you're being told, then how could you possibly know it? You've merely been made aware of it.

So it's awareness, then comprehension, then, knowledge, then understanding, then wisdom.

And then action.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

A child knows fire is hot because his mother tells him so. He understands what 'fire is hot' means when he touches it for himself. Wisdom is the application of that understanding.

A child understands what "fire is hot" means when the child knows the definition of the words fire, is, and hot. Simply being told a fact is not equivalent to knowing or understanding it. If you cannot comprehend what you're being told, then how could you possibly know it? You've merely been made aware of it.

So it's awareness, then comprehension, then, knowledge, then understanding, then wisdom.

And then action.

You know your abc's before you understand what they mean and their purpose.

Comprehension is understanding and being made aware of something is knowing something. If you are not aware of something, you don't know something.

 

[kingblaze84]

The devil didn't really do anything bad in the Adam and Eve story. It simply wanted to give humans knowledge, clarity, and the ability to understand its environment. Considering the tyrannical and reckless Bible god admits to creating calamity/evil, who can really blame Adam for eating that apple? Adam probably didn't trust the nigga lol

Either way, clarity and freedom of thought are great things, nothing wrong with thinking for oneself, instead of one book doing all the thinking for you.

@kingblaze84 have you seen that video claiming a little boy "schooling" his atheist teacher about God

Saying God didn't create evil, it's what happened when man doesn't have the love of God in his heart or some shit like that?

And cold is the absence of heat according to the law of physics

He said the physics analogy first I guess to pull the blanket over people's eyes, but I thought god was omnipresent so there could never be a time when God or his presence was absent

[y]https://youtu.be/Y3qjDF9ksJU[/y]

I'm busy at work but I'll definitely be watching this video tonight.....looks very interesting.

It's only 2 min long video.

Btw ppl use those type of images to get emotional response from the audience which clouds their ability to think rationally...u atheist btw? Or agnostic ?

Well I work a pretty busy job (law firm paralegal) and I can't get distracted watching videos now, but I'll check it out when I have time tonight. Images are powerful things and right or wrong, they usually get their point across.....

I lean towards there being some kind of higher power, but I'm not sure if this higher power is worthy of being called a god or not. It could just be a giant magical guinea pig in the sky for all I know, so I guess you can classify me as being agnostic.

Gotcha. I was raised in a pro Christian household, at one point went agnostic for a few years without even knowing that's what it was called, but eventually i got cut spiritually/convicted when i sought council from a Christian minister during a time I was struggling with faith and the Bible. The same evening I caught a case and was facing felony charges. Made it out with misdemeanor but another story. Ever since then I pretty much been a Bible student and renewed my stance as a Christian (stil WIP) .

Aight I feel you, I've heard stories like that several times before. I remember praying to get me out of some jams and I believed the prayers worked, but the funny thing is it seems my own personal luck has grown after becoming non-religious. It seems since I've stopped being Christian, things are going more my way and I can handle life's daily struggles with more peace and sense in my mind. So I respect your story, it's understandable why you feel that way but I wonder about those who pray and seem to have no luck.

More power to ya. A person don't necessarily have to be a Christian to be considered having a good heart, or to be blessed with nice things.

It's tough to say why every particular person get blessed with certain things despite them being this or that, or why certain ppl prayer isnt heard. understand though, biblically speaking prayer is a privilege (mainly) of Christians...it's generally something most effective if done by a Christian. God doesn't necessarily hear prayer from just anybody especially those who haven't atoned for the bad things they've done in past.

Why do you say prayer is more effective as a Christian though, there are plenty of people with no religion or different religions who might have great luck praying.

There's clues in the Bible about how it works...I say mainly Christians because they are the ones who have a covenant relationships with the Son, but the bible mentions stuff like "the prayers of a righteous man avail much" and in another place hint that a person's sins can get in the way of God hearing their prayer.

Ehhh that's questionable because many kids are innocent, pray, and still end up with horrible, natural diseases. And many times they're untreatable and makes the child suffer unnecessarily. What kind of sins does a 3 year old kid have, to not have his or her prayers answered if things like that come up? Meanwhile, plenty of people lead greedy, "sinful", and selfish lives and seem to have their way all the time. It doesn't seem likely being Christian gives anyone a distinct advantage on prayer or really anything else in life, there are plenty of lucky Muslims or non-religious people out there.

innocent children have privilege of prayer, they don't have an issue of sin stopping their prayers from reaching God. I have no idea why God may or may not simply wipe away some people afflictions when born with them, i don't know his plans like that...i mean it might look like they suffer unnecessarily to US, but in the Bible it's mentioned that in other ways that we may not be able to detect God reveals his glory through them. Like when the disciples asked Jesus why the blind man was born that way.

You gotta realize everybody suffer with SOME kind of problems in life...there's both good and bad things about their life. Just because i'm afflicted by one thing whether lifelong or not, you think about gonna let it rob me of my happiness or that im gonna ignore all the other good things i have? Not me! There's people with everything a man could want who still are miserable and commit suicide, and there's people who are homeless or have nothing that seem happy as ever.

Like i said it a person doesn't have to be Christian or righteous to be blessed. but that's not the REASON they may be blessed. And remember, just because they seem blessed now doesn't mean it's going to always be that way.

"Behold, these are the ungodly, who are always at ease; they increase in riches. Surely I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocence. For all day long I have been plagued, and chastened every morning. If I had said, "I will speak thus," Behold, I would have been untrue to the generation of Your children. When I thought how to understand this, it was too painful for me -- until I went into the sanctuary of God; then I understood their end. Surely You set them in slippery places; You cast them down to destruction. Oh, how they are brought to desolation, as in a moment! They are utterly consumed with terrors" (Psalms 73:12-19).

in contrast, one of the differences with a Christians and the innocent is that they have spiritual blessings that will never go away even beyond death. that's what's really important. it's not just the physical stuff.

It seems Christians rarely know the Bible god's plans lol, that's part of my problem with the Christian view. We demand transparency from politicians, but the Bible god won't make its plans clear. I'm not seeing a compelling reason to take the Bible god seriously when Jesus himself said god answers prayers and can fulfill anything, but yet millions of kids worldwide are afflicted with incurable, natural diseases and disasters.

In mostly Christian Venezuela, people throughout the country are telling reporters they're hungry and water has been cut off, and all I see is an absentee god who is doing his best Harry Houdini impression. Spiritual blessings are great too I guess but I see no evidence it's even capable of that. What makes you think the Bible god is capable of spiritual blessings when it can't even give many the basics of life?

 

[soul rattler]

A child knows fire is hot because his mother tells him so. He understands what 'fire is hot' means when he touches it for himself. Wisdom is the application of that understanding.

A child understands what "fire is hot" means when the child knows the definition of the words fire, is, and hot. Simply being told a fact is not equivalent to knowing or understanding it. If you cannot comprehend what you're being told, then how could you possibly know it? You've merely been made aware of it.

So it's awareness, then comprehension, then, knowledge, then understanding, then wisdom.

And then action.

You know your abc's before you understand what they mean and their purpose.

Comprehension is understanding and being made aware of something is knowing something. If you are not aware of something, you don't know something.

You're mostly agreeing with me.

I make the difference between comprehension and understanding in that comprehending a thing is conceptualizing what it is fundamentally on its own, whereas understanding it is getting its role in relation to other things.

 

[zzombie]

The devil loves me? The devil knew that without wisdom or understanding; knowledge of good and evil is a curse. I never knew of evil, so how could I avoid getting caught in the snares of evil? God knew, god said not to touch that shit, cuz god knew without wisdom and understanding, knowledge of good and evil is a death sentence.

Devil didn't tell me, "oh btw, you won't have that knowledge right away, it gathers over time, mistake after mistake after mistake, and that's only if you learn from the mistake."

There is no wisdom without knowledge. That's called foolishness; to profess to understand without even knowing.

YEAH NOW thanks to the snake

That doesn't even make any fucking sense.

If makes perfect sense, adam and even did not need to learn anything in the way we do now , they had god the sources of all wisdom. Now thanks to the snake we have to seek wisdom and knowledge... yes there is a difference between the 2

 

[Ajackson17]

I still see the same debate going on and on and on and on for years and years and years.

But I guess this is just a way to pass the time I guess.

 

[zzombie]

I still see the same debate going on and on and on and on for years and years and years.

But I guess this is just a way to pass the time I guess.

Religion has been around for thousands of years this is not a joke for many many people it's llife or death serious.

 

[kingblaze84]

Assuming things really get that bad worldwide, what do you think this god would do? I'm not sure humans would act better or more humane if things hit rock bottom either, people if anything would be more likely to turn into savages.

I hope god wouldn't do anything, how insulting to give humans all these faculties to be great and then god steps in a does shit for us, that kind of thing takes away from the opportunity to learn from mistakes. And people tend to get a different perspective after they've lost practically everything.

Wow, you would hope god does nothing? Geez, even most religious people hope it does something someday lol but I respect your opinion. I'm not religious so I don't expect much on a worldwide basis but after reading the news today, I think a little divine intervention wouldn't hurt. Many people can't even help or take care of themselves, especially since their countries are bankrupt or don't have the resources.

Holy heaven, god has tried, he's begged, he's pleaded, he's slaughtered, he's sacrificed himself, there is nothing that is gonna wake these humans up!!! Except, maybe them almost wiping themselves out.

Maybe humans haven't "woken up" because god didn't try hard enough to gain the attention and respect of mankind. What is this god doing now, in the age of Youtube, Twitter, and Snapchat? Nowhere to be found. And what do you mean god pleaded, I don't see any gods begging and pleading anywhere.

God doesn't beg anymore, learned long ago humans were too selfish to notice.

When did this god ever beg for humanity's attention though? People have claimed to speak to several gods throughout history, but they seem to be so absent now. It's one of the things that's fascinated me about religion since I was young, how active the gods seem to have been in ancient days but in modern times, they seem either dead or in hiding.

 

[soul rattler]

The devil loves me? The devil knew that without wisdom or understanding; knowledge of good and evil is a curse. I never knew of evil, so how could I avoid getting caught in the snares of evil? God knew, god said not to touch that shit, cuz god knew without wisdom and understanding, knowledge of good and evil is a death sentence.

Devil didn't tell me, "oh btw, you won't have that knowledge right away, it gathers over time, mistake after mistake after mistake, and that's only if you learn from the mistake."

There is no wisdom without knowledge. That's called foolishness; to profess to understand without even knowing.

YEAH NOW thanks to the snake

That doesn't even make any fucking sense.

If makes perfect sense, adam and even did not need to learn anything in the way we do now , they had god the sources of all wisdom. Now thanks to the snake we have to seek wisdom and knowledge... yes there is a difference between the 2

The fact that you would want to live in a world where you don't have to know anything speaks to how little you care about purpose and self value.

Imagine someone telling you "Nah you don't need to know anything about anything. Nothing matters, you don't matter... well I matter because I'm God... but to be absolutely painstakingly clear, you don't matter so you don't need to know... ANYTHING"

 

[zzombie]

The devil loves me? The devil knew that without wisdom or understanding; knowledge of good and evil is a curse. I never knew of evil, so how could I avoid getting caught in the snares of evil? God knew, god said not to touch that shit, cuz god knew without wisdom and understanding, knowledge of good and evil is a death sentence.

Devil didn't tell me, "oh btw, you won't have that knowledge right away, it gathers over time, mistake after mistake after mistake, and that's only if you learn from the mistake."

There is no wisdom without knowledge. That's called foolishness; to profess to understand without even knowing.

YEAH NOW thanks to the snake

That doesn't even make any fucking sense.

If makes perfect sense, adam and even did not need to learn anything in the way we do now , they had god the sources of all wisdom. Now thanks to the snake we have to seek wisdom and knowledge... yes there is a difference between the 2

The fact that you would want to live in a world where you don't have to know anything speaks to how little you care about purpose and self value.

Imagine someone telling you "Nah you don't need to know anything about anything. Nothing matters, you don't matter... well I matter because I'm God... but to be absolutely painstakingly clear, you don't matter so you don't need to know... ANYTHING"

Is that what you really got from my post??.... SMH

 

[Fosheezy]

It seems Christians rarely know the Bible god's plans lol, that's part of my problem with the Christian view. We demand transparency from politicians, but the Bible god won't make its plans clear. I'm not seeing a compelling reason to take the Bible god seriously when Jesus himself said god answers prayers and can fulfill anything, but yet millions of kids worldwide are afflicted with incurable, natural diseases and disasters.

In mostly Christian Venezuela, people throughout the country are telling reporters they're hungry and water has been cut off, and all I see is an absentee god who is doing his best Harry Houdini impression. Spiritual blessings are great too I guess but I see no evidence it's even capable of that. What makes you think the Bible god is capable of spiritual blessings when it can't even give many the basics of life?

We don't know anybody plans much less God plans outside of what they reveal to us about it. He told us the main plan as it pertain to us as a whole. As far as for each of us individually? Some stuff others just can't know. why that is so hard to accept?

A hint Jesus gave about prayer is ppl don't accomplish much good with theirs because they don't have enough faith.

Some stuff God expect us to settle on our own if we have have the tools and potential to do so.

And when did God ever promise that we wouldn't experience any harm at all? You miss out many good things in life when you only focus on negativity, I wouldn't want to look at things like that..I'd be depressed.

 

[Ajackson17]

I still see the same debate going on and on and on and on for years and years and years.

But I guess this is just a way to pass the time I guess.

Religion has been around for thousands of years this is not a joke for many many people it's llife or death serious.

And no one has proven a thing, just believe what you want as long as it doesn't infringe on a person negatively. Be a Christian, Muslim, Atheist, Buddhist, agnostic, rastafarian, whatever. No one can prove at the end of the day, this is why I don't debate on it. It's not like there is any new finds or new information, nothing. Just rhetoric.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

A child knows fire is hot because his mother tells him so. He understands what 'fire is hot' means when he touches it for himself. Wisdom is the application of that understanding.

A child understands what "fire is hot" means when the child knows the definition of the words fire, is, and hot. Simply being told a fact is not equivalent to knowing or understanding it. If you cannot comprehend what you're being told, then how could you possibly know it? You've merely been made aware of it.

So it's awareness, then comprehension, then, knowledge, then understanding, then wisdom.

And then action.

You know your abc's before you understand what they mean and their purpose.

Comprehension is understanding and being made aware of something is knowing something. If you are not aware of something, you don't know something.

You're mostly agreeing with me.

I make the difference between comprehension and understanding in that comprehending a thing is conceptualizing what it is fundamentally on its own, whereas understanding it is getting its role in relation to other things.

But I said it first....

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Assuming things really get that bad worldwide, what do you think this god would do? I'm not sure humans would act better or more humane if things hit rock bottom either, people if anything would be more likely to turn into savages.

I hope god wouldn't do anything, how insulting to give humans all these faculties to be great and then god steps in a does shit for us, that kind of thing takes away from the opportunity to learn from mistakes. And people tend to get a different perspective after they've lost practically everything.

Wow, you would hope god does nothing? Geez, even most religious people hope it does something someday lol but I respect your opinion. I'm not religious so I don't expect much on a worldwide basis but after reading the news today, I think a little divine intervention wouldn't hurt. Many people can't even help or take care of themselves, especially since their countries are bankrupt or don't have the resources.

Holy heaven, god has tried, he's begged, he's pleaded, he's slaughtered, he's sacrificed himself, there is nothing that is gonna wake these humans up!!! Except, maybe them almost wiping themselves out.

Maybe humans haven't "woken up" because god didn't try hard enough to gain the attention and respect of mankind. What is this god doing now, in the age of Youtube, Twitter, and Snapchat? Nowhere to be found. And what do you mean god pleaded, I don't see any gods begging and pleading anywhere.

God doesn't beg anymore, learned long ago humans were too selfish to notice.

When did this god ever beg for humanity's attention though? People have claimed to speak to several gods throughout history, but they seem to be so absent now. It's one of the things that's fascinated me about religion since I was young, how active the gods seem to have been in ancient days but in modern times, they seem either dead or in hiding.

In hiding I think, or maybe we really are blind.