The Bible says the book of Exodus never happened

[kingblaze84]

Jesus helps you if you help yourself. Same with god. The reason most xtians are miserable is because they are living lies. They aren't behaving like jesus. They're not practicing awareness of thoughts, words and actions, they are living all willy nilly babbling with their mouths how much they love jesus(honor me with your lips, we know what happens to them). Living like jesus, being like jesus is in stark contrast to how society rolls and has always been that way.

People back then weren't as aware as jesus. Awareness of thoughts, actions and words? wtf is that? Nobody then or now wants a bunch of jesus personalities walking around. They don't have many friends because they practice always speaking the truth(can't walk the path of light if you're filling yourself/others with falsehood). They are not accepted because they don't keep up with societies standards of "living" and "success". So you can see why the book talks about people falling away because they literally come out of the world, and it's barren, so back to society they go to find a place they fit. Which the book says, nah you gotta do it alone... well, god and jesus and holy ghost are on your side, but that's not enough for people.

Are Kali and Shiva and Thor and Zeus by my side too? The more gods on my side, the better. Fuck it, throw in Hercules too to be on the safe side.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

If Jesus is helping people on Earth now as you say, then why are so many Christians I know now in so much misery? I know some atheists on top of the world, and agnostics doing great, Steve Jobs was agnostic or atheist and lived well overall as a billionaire. Meanwhile, I know Christians with disabled kids and huge medical bills taking care of them. I remember being a Christian and at times wondering where the hell my luck is. When I stopped fucking with Christianity, I noticed my life took a dramatic turn for the positive. Ironic, no? I just do not see Jesus active in any capacity, if he is, then he should be helping the tons of Christians in horrible situations in Brazil, Venezuela, and Puerto Rico LOL......I dislike laziness and the Bible god seems lazy to the extreme.

I used to be VERRRRYYYY open to the Bible and Christianity. My life was not fun back in those days. When I turned 16, I stopped being Christian and for SOME REASON, my life just started getting in order. Maybe another god showed its blessings on me? Or maybe no god did and it was just luck? Who knows. When I see Jesus not doing shit in Puerto Rico or Venezuela, among other places that need help (almost every woman in Venezuela is relying on prostitution to make a living now lol smh), then it makes me think Jesus is either lazy as fuck, unable to help, or maybe just dead like every other past person. How can anyone worship a being that has never proved itself a god?

May all go well on your journey, because I went on that same journey in the past, and nothing made sense to me during those days.

lol Dog, I don't know how else to put this. Jesus didn't come to take care of your daily life. He didn't come to guarantee that you'll live lovely in this life. Most of his disciples died horrible deaths. Ultimately, Jesus' salvation is about eternity not Earth. Now that said, I don't know anyone that actually believes in Jesus that won't tell you he's helped them. My life is better when I restored my faith than beforehand. I'm not a millionaire and life still has low points, but I wouldn't go back for anything. Again, you keep sticking out that "People who believe are doing bad and people who don't are doing good." Well that's a misrepresentation. People in both camps are doing bad and good. And as I pointed out before, if you read the Bible, even when God was basically hands on with people and they knew it, there were still those who believed that didn't do well and people didn't believe that did well. So this idea that God/Jesus helping = everyone that believes does great is false.

Also, you say you see Jesus not doing shit in Puerto Rico. How do you know? What are you expecting? To see him rise up from the floods on TV, wave his hands, and fix everyone's troubles. That's not how it works. That was never how it works. But how do you know that every day, he hasn't helps people in some small way that meant the difference between life or death?

Well what the Jews said in Jesus' time always stuck a point in me, which is, that Jesus never was able to fulfill the prophecies. Which is why they mocked him and ironically 2,000 years later he still is unable to fulfill his own prophecies of world harmony, which is what the real messiah was supposed to do. Remember, Jesus said he believed in the prophecies, and would fulfill them. The fact that he didn't fulfill about 90% of the old Jewish prophecies is quite telling.

You've mentioned several times that Jesus can bring salvation or heaven in the afterlife, but Jesus is not the only person or "god" that promised that. There are many gods historically that have promised eternal life after death, if one believes in them. So in the end, I just don't find Jesus that unique for a prophet, and I don't think people who get their ass kicked by human beings are gods lol. Jesus seemed quite helpless against those Romans, Odin, Thor, and Kali would have shed blood before being crucified like a common criminal. This doesn't seem godlike to me, but I do admit I'm hard to impress! I've never lost a fight before, so I expect a god to not be crucified like a regular thief. Some say Jesus came back to life but some say Nero came back to life too. Nero claimed he was a god too, ironically.

Lol Look man, if you don't want to believe or be a Christian, that's perfectly fine, but it looks like you're looking more for a comic book superhero than a god. Not only that, but you kinda missed the point. Jesus let himself be beaten and killed because it was the Father's will. He was the "Sacrificial Lamb." So your belief that he couldn't have stopped that is false. That was made clear when Satan tempted him in the desert.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Jesus helps you if you help yourself. Same with god. The reason most xtians are miserable is because they are living lies. They aren't behaving like jesus. They're not practicing awareness of thoughts, words and actions, they are living all willy nilly babbling with their mouths how much they love jesus(honor me with your lips, we know what happens to them). Living like jesus, being like jesus is in stark contrast to how society rolls and has always been that way.

People back then weren't as aware as jesus. Awareness of thoughts, actions and words? wtf is that? Nobody then or now wants a bunch of jesus personalities walking around. They don't have many friends because they practice always speaking the truth(can't walk the path of light if you're filling yourself/others with falsehood). They are not accepted because they don't keep up with societies standards of "living" and "success". So you can see why the book talks about people falling away because they literally come out of the world, and it's barren, so back to society they go to find a place they fit. Which the book says, nah you gotta do it alone... well, god and jesus and holy ghost are on your side, but that's not enough for people.

Are Kali and Shiva and Thor and Zeus by my side too? The more gods on my side, the better. Fuck it, throw in Hercules too to be on the safe side.

Have as many as you want but eventually it comes back to a godhead. Pieces and whole.

 

[kingblaze84]

Jesus helps you if you help yourself. Same with god. The reason most xtians are miserable is because they are living lies. They aren't behaving like jesus. They're not practicing awareness of thoughts, words and actions, they are living all willy nilly babbling with their mouths how much they love jesus(honor me with your lips, we know what happens to them). Living like jesus, being like jesus is in stark contrast to how society rolls and has always been that way.

People back then weren't as aware as jesus. Awareness of thoughts, actions and words? wtf is that? Nobody then or now wants a bunch of jesus personalities walking around. They don't have many friends because they practice always speaking the truth(can't walk the path of light if you're filling yourself/others with falsehood). They are not accepted because they don't keep up with societies standards of "living" and "success". So you can see why the book talks about people falling away because they literally come out of the world, and it's barren, so back to society they go to find a place they fit. Which the book says, nah you gotta do it alone... well, god and jesus and holy ghost are on your side, but that's not enough for people.

Are Kali and Shiva and Thor and Zeus by my side too? The more gods on my side, the better. Fuck it, throw in Hercules too to be on the safe side.

Have as many as you want but eventually it comes back to a godhead. Pieces and whole.

What do you mean godhead, or do you mean a god in charge? Because if that's what you mean, how do I know, Zeus said he was the head god in charge. Shiva was the head of a trinity too if I'm not mistaken.

 

[BiblicalAtheist]

Jesus helps you if you help yourself. Same with god. The reason most xtians are miserable is because they are living lies. They aren't behaving like jesus. They're not practicing awareness of thoughts, words and actions, they are living all willy nilly babbling with their mouths how much they love jesus(honor me with your lips, we know what happens to them). Living like jesus, being like jesus is in stark contrast to how society rolls and has always been that way.

People back then weren't as aware as jesus. Awareness of thoughts, actions and words? wtf is that? Nobody then or now wants a bunch of jesus personalities walking around. They don't have many friends because they practice always speaking the truth(can't walk the path of light if you're filling yourself/others with falsehood). They are not accepted because they don't keep up with societies standards of "living" and "success". So you can see why the book talks about people falling away because they literally come out of the world, and it's barren, so back to society they go to find a place they fit. Which the book says, nah you gotta do it alone... well, god and jesus and holy ghost are on your side, but that's not enough for people.

Are Kali and Shiva and Thor and Zeus by my side too? The more gods on my side, the better. Fuck it, throw in Hercules too to be on the safe side.

Have as many as you want but eventually it comes back to a godhead. Pieces and whole.

What do you mean godhead, or do you mean a god in charge? Because if that's what you mean, how do I know, Zeus said he was the head god in charge. Shiva was the head of a trinity too if I'm not mistaken.

There is the whole then all the pieces that make up the whole. Not you or I or any one thing could possibly be the whole. How could we even contain such greatness! Out of the whole comes us, you call that whole whatever you want to call it. I know people like to give it a name and try to peg it down but from my experience its best to leave it at God is God. Take what you need and leave the rest. I don't think you need the name of god to call upon god. You don't need god's attributes etc. Take the information in, ask help putting it together, be earnest, and go from there. And when I said god, jesus, holy ghost, I am referring more to those energies rather than specific things pegged down by man. I've come to understand god, jesus and the HG as wisdom*, understanding and truth. Can't really have one without the other and have good outcomes in your endeavors.

 

[Flam3r]

We use religion like a trolley-car--we ride on it only while it is going our way. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.