Texas CHURCH SHOOTING: 20 Shots fired during service (27 Dead- 20+ Injured)

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2stepz_ahead;c-10083309 said:
blackrain;c-10082961 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-10082881 said:
to be black is to always have to take the higher ground.

while other take the lower ground to cut us from below so we cant stand with them when they stand up.

Why lower yourself to the standards of those who have proven to be less than?

we all dont have to but at some point someone has to.

this high horse mighty ground aint been working for quite a while.

I'm still tryna figure out how we are taking the higher ground by saying basic shit...like who had to fight against themselves to think there's something not right about a person shooting up a church...or just anywhere where ppl are minding their business?
 
atribecalledgabi;c-10083319 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-10083309 said:
blackrain;c-10082961 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-10082881 said:
to be black is to always have to take the higher ground.

while other take the lower ground to cut us from below so we cant stand with them when they stand up.

Why lower yourself to the standards of those who have proven to be less than?

we all dont have to but at some point someone has to.

this high horse mighty ground aint been working for quite a while.

I'm still tryna figure out how we are taking the higher ground by saying basic shit...like who had to fight against themselves to think there's something not right about a person shooting up a church...or just anywhere where ppl are minding their business?

I would think somethings don't have to be said. However, although what some have said in this thread could appear insensitive or mimic the behavior of "some" (for our racially challenged black folks) whites but put in context it makes sense. Some folks are just tired of the imbalance, inequality.
 
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Kwan Dai;c-10083325 said:
atribecalledgabi;c-10083319 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-10083309 said:
blackrain;c-10082961 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-10082881 said:
to be black is to always have to take the higher ground.

while other take the lower ground to cut us from below so we cant stand with them when they stand up.

Why lower yourself to the standards of those who have proven to be less than?

we all dont have to but at some point someone has to.

this high horse mighty ground aint been working for quite a while.

I'm still tryna figure out how we are taking the higher ground by saying basic shit...like who had to fight against themselves to think there's something not right about a person shooting up a church...or just anywhere where ppl are minding their business?

I would think somethings don't have to be said. However, although what some have said in this thread could appear insensitive or mimic the behavior of "some" (for our racially challenged black folks) whites put in context in makes sense. Some folks are just tired of the imbalance, inequality.

I get that.

I honestly don't care if ppl care or not cuz I don't expect ppl to show real compassion or empathy for ppl they don't personally know. I've never argued that ppl have to care. You feel how you feel.

But my point is either find something wrong with a presumably peaceful place getting lit up from jump or don't. Don't sit around and wait to find out if the victims are black or not to decide if you gon react normally to the shit. That's dumb.
 
atribecalledgabi;c-10083351 said:
Kwan Dai;c-10083325 said:
atribecalledgabi;c-10083319 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-10083309 said:
blackrain;c-10082961 said:
2stepz_ahead;c-10082881 said:
to be black is to always have to take the higher ground.

while other take the lower ground to cut us from below so we cant stand with them when they stand up.

Why lower yourself to the standards of those who have proven to be less than?

we all dont have to but at some point someone has to.

this high horse mighty ground aint been working for quite a while.

I'm still tryna figure out how we are taking the higher ground by saying basic shit...like who had to fight against themselves to think there's something not right about a person shooting up a church...or just anywhere where ppl are minding their business?

I would think somethings don't have to be said. However, although what some have said in this thread could appear insensitive or mimic the behavior of "some" (for our racially challenged black folks) whites put in context in makes sense. Some folks are just tired of the imbalance, inequality.

I get that.

I honestly don't care if ppl care or not cuz I don't expect ppl to show real compassion or empathy for ppl they don't personally know. I've never argued that ppl have to care. You feel how you feel.

But my point is either find something wrong with a presumably peaceful place getting lit up from jump or don't. Don't sit around and wait to find out if the victims are black or not to decide if you gon react normally to the shit. That's dumb.

Word... I rocks with that.
 
Kwan Dai;c-10083316 said:
I'm not sure what you are asking or why. But ok. They are "above average" white men who are outliers\aberrations and have no connection what so ever to other whites. You know despite their past and present history of these types of incidents. Better?

I have a problem with you constantly typing things I haven't typed. You have used words like hate, enemy and made a statement in regards to me denying "whites should exist". You should chill on the lying cuz. I don't feel that way nor do I type such things. A Black man ignoring the obvious (dead people) to focus on real issues (white terrorism) isn't emulating whites. whites ignore POC issues while, using their voices, media, politics, law enforcement, votes, financial leverage etc to deny POC opportunity. You're attempts at making some correlation are lame and dishonest.

Did you not say the following?

Let's address the real issue. white man. "average" white men are shooting and blowing america the fuck up while everyone not white pays the price.

Did you means something by that other than the accusation that the white men committing those acts represent the average white man? How exactly did I misrepresent what you said? If anyone is misrepresenting anyone, you're the one doing that to me. I never said you said you hated whites, but I certainly could see that argument being made based on what you do say. Nor did I claim that you said whites shouldn't exist. That's literally some shit you just made up. I already addressed those accusations the first time you made them. I'm not sure why you continue to assert them.

I'm not even sure why you're purposely distorting my comments. Wouldn't it be simpler to just respond to the things I say rather than making up your own shit? Or maybe you've forgotten the impetus of this discussion. It came from dissension with what others (e.g., @ghostdog123456) said. You basically and others are defending his side, which is fine, but just because I say something about his side doesn't mean I'm directing it towards you. That dude said something like "everyday a lot of white people die is a good day." That's some hateful shit. If that's not how you feel fine, but when you defend that stance you are legitimizing it to some degree.

I also didn't claim you ignoring dead people was emulating whites. I say you're emulating whites because you make the same kind of arguments they make. I made it clear what I was talking about. You saying that these shooters represent the average white person is no different than racists saying gangbangers that pull drivebys represent the average black person.
 
@"The Lonious Monk" I like that fam, " Go after the right people.". With that said, in the words of the late Baba Gregory that'd be the head of Yale, Walgreens, FedEx, UPS, Wal-Mart, Verizon etc who all fund ( along with the Koch brothers) Stand ya ground laws! We've been mad @ the wrong white folks and u know I don't cape 4 them @ all. Trump has given the Green light for debauchery and now we have a nation of degenerates committing atrocities nationwide. The ones I named R the REAL WHITE FOLKS! They'll get u killed or missing, hidden hand or shadow players. Fucking with them we'd now be playing with power. Power we don't currently possess. Cut the head off, the body dies. Cats like this animal r the hate that hate created. Product of his beliefs just like some brehs become products of their environment. Just change the faces, colors and places and it's all the same game. Stay up!
 
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Can we all just agree that this is some fucked up shit and everybody has a right to feel how they feel about it?
 
The Lonious Monk;c-10083373 said:
Kwan Dai;c-10083316 said:
I'm not sure what you are asking or why. But ok. They are "above average" white men who are outliers\aberrations and have no connection what so ever to other whites. You know despite their past and present history of these types of incidents. Better?

I have a problem with you constantly typing things I haven't typed. You have used words like hate, enemy and made a statement in regards to me denying "whites should exist". You should chill on the lying cuz. I don't feel that way nor do I type such things. A Black man ignoring the obvious (dead people) to focus on real issues (white terrorism) isn't emulating whites. whites ignore POC issues while, using their voices, media, politics, law enforcement, votes, financial leverage etc to deny POC opportunity. You're attempts at making some correlation are lame and dishonest.

Did you not say the following?

Let's address the real issue. white man. "average" white men are shooting and blowing america the fuck up while everyone not white pays the price.

Did you means something by that other than the accusation that the white men committing those acts represent the average white man? How exactly did I misrepresent what you said? If anyone is misrepresenting anyone, you're the one doing that to me. I never said you said you hated whites, but I certainly could see that argument being made based on what you do say. Nor did I claim that you said whites shouldn't exist. That's literally some shit you just made up. I already addressed those accusations the first time you made them. I'm not sure why you continue to assert them.

I'm not even sure why you're purposely distorting my comments. Wouldn't it be simpler to just respond to the things I say rather than making up your own shit? Or maybe you've forgotten the impetus of this discussion. It came from dissension with what others (e.g., @ghostdog123456) said. You basically and others are defending his side, which is fine, but just because I say something about his side doesn't mean I'm directing it towards you. That dude said something like "everyday a lot of white people die is a good day." That's some hateful shit. If that's not how you feel fine, but when you defend that stance you are legitimizing it to some degree.

I also didn't claim you ignoring dead people was emulating whites. I say you're emulating whites because you make the same kind of arguments they make. I made it clear what I was talking about. You saying that these shooters represent the average white person is no different than racists saying gangbangers that pull drivebys represent the average black person.



Did you means something by that other than the accusation that the white men committing those acts represent the average white man?


Obviously because, I didn't type anything in regards to "representation". The average white man means exactly that. Working stiff, maybe with a family, pays bills and takes his labrador to the vet.

So, now to address your lies. You did adequately address any of this. I just didn't feel the need to respond.

You typed:

"The problem is with you dudes the "support white supremacy indirectly" part comes down to them simply existing.

You very clearly say here that I "dudes" have a problem with whites existing. I do not believe remotely close to your trash statement.

What sense does it make to hate someone because of the consequences of things that may not even be in their control?

No one accept you typed "HATE" of any kind. You clearly say here that I and others "HATE" whites. And you are looking for answer as to why.

No distortion necessary. It's right there.

whites aren't saying anything remotely close to what I am saying. The majority don't even want gun control. So, comparing me to them is your ability to be honest. I get you are capping for someone in your family, wifey, mom or dad so I aint even mad. It's your job to defend the indefensible.
 
rickmogul;c-10083389 said:
@"The Lonious Monk" I like that fam, " Go after the right people.". With that said, in the words of the late Baba Gregory that'd be the head of Yale, Walgreens, FedEx, UPS, Wal-Mart, Verizon etc who all fund ( along with the Koch brothers) Stand ya ground laws! We've been mad @ the wrong white folks and u know I don't cape 4 them @ all. Trump has given the Green light for debauchery and now we have a nation of degenerates committing atrocities nationwide. The ones I named R the REAL WHITE FOLKS! They'll get u killed or missing, hidden hand or shadow players. Fucking with them we'd now be playing with power. Power we don't currently possess. Cut the head off, the body dies. Cats like this animal r the hate that hate created. Product of his beliefs just like some brehs become products of their environment. Just change the faces, colors and places and it's all the same game. Stay up!

There's truth here. However, the people that you have pointed out are a very small percentage. It's the average white majority that are supporting this behavior thus making it more difficult to go after the big fish.

I told a couple of my white co-workers. Black peoples fight or points of contention aren't against "INDIVIDUAL" whites. It's against the govt, big business and those who create policy\laws. The problem is, the MAJORITY of everyday average whites do not want to stand nor sit with Blacks in opposition to the power structure. And what makes joinging with Blacks MOST important is, if, things are made right for Blacks they are made right for ALL. Because, Blacks have shown that in our own pursuit of equality we will include ALL and fight for ALL..
 
The Lonious Monk;c-10083002 said:
The Hue;c-10082992 said:
It's all cause and effect.

Cause: Not giving a damn when these kids were murdered.

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Effect: Not giving a damn when their kids are murdered.

You cannot expect every black person to be down with the "turn the other cheek" narrative. No one here has the right to tell the next black man or woman how they should feel or react to white folks dying. It's fucked up but a lot of us out here tired of the bullshit.

So no white people care when black kids die? That's what some of ya'll don't seem to get about my stance. I don't care that you have a "if it's fuck me, then it's fuck them" attitude. If that's how you feel, it's how you feel. My point is that you guys seem to base your reasoning for that mentality on this idea that the majority of whites are these unrepentant psychopathic racists, which really isn't true.

14 people in a Cuyahoga county grand jury didn't care when 12 year old Tamir Rice was murdered by the Cleveland PD. If the racial composition of that grand jury matched the racial composition of the county that means that 2/3 of the people on that jury were white and not enough of them gave a shit about that child's death to demand a trial.

I'm not going to say that ALL white people could careless about black children being murdered but its clear that at least 2/3 of white people in the Cuyahoga County grand jury pool don't give a fuck. I'd lying if I said idgaf about a 5 year old white child being murdered but unfortunately I understand why the next brother could feel that way.

 
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skpjr78;c-10083435 said:
The Lonious Monk;c-10083002 said:
The Hue;c-10082992 said:
It's all cause and effect.

Cause: Not giving a damn when these kids were murdered.

jd469syuizb9.jpg


sgeioyxl2lhh.jpg


Effect: Not giving a damn when their kids are murdered.

You cannot expect every black person to be down with the "turn the other cheek" narrative. No one here has the right to tell the next black man or woman how they should feel or react to white folks dying. It's fucked up but a lot of us out here tired of the bullshit.

So no white people care when black kids die? That's what some of ya'll don't seem to get about my stance. I don't care that you have a "if it's fuck me, then it's fuck them" attitude. If that's how you feel, it's how you feel. My point is that you guys seem to base your reasoning for that mentality on this idea that the majority of whites are these unrepentant psychopathic racists, which really isn't true.

14 people in a Cuyahoga county grand jury didn't care when 12 year old Tamir Rice was murdered by the Cleveland PD. If the racial composition of that grand jury matched the racial composition of the county that means that 2/3 of the people on that jury were white and not enough of them gave a shit about that child's death to demand a trial.

I'm not going to say that ALL white people could careless about black children being murdered but its clear that at least 2/3 of white people in the Cuyahoga County grand jury pool don't give a fuck. I'd lying if I said idgaf about a 5 year old white child being murdered but unfortunately I understand why the next brother could feel that way.

Didn’t some black ppl vote on that not guilty charge
 
So a dude just so happen to be there with his own AR to shoot it out with dude.

That town is all fucked woh ppl just casually walking around with ARs

 

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