Tell the truth: Do you think Southern rappers and fans are dumber than you?

[musicology1985]

And it's a well known fact that a brother like Kanye would not get massive respect from the streets of the West and South Side of Chicago just like Em wouldn't in all of Detroit. That's just the way that it is.

BUT WHAT DO OUR PEOPLE WANT? A PAPER GANGSTER LIKE SLIM/BABY, JUICY J/DJ PAUL, DIDDY, J PRINCE OR SUGE & EAZY? Is that the leadership that we want? Then cats would be complaining about getting robbed.

Again, it's damned if you do or you don't in this rap game. because IF YOU PUT A STREET DUDE FROM THE CHI OR THE D IN THAT SPOT NIGGAS WILL BE CRYING OR TRYNA BUSS BACK

 

[soul rattler]

Ol' dude asked about people's perceptions of the South's music and the fact of the matter is that it is the same everywhere. However, it's all about what's pushed, not intelligence. The disconnect that Chicago has with Kanye is the same one that Em has with Detroit, but I would never say that ICP or Bizarre are dope. Regardless of the criticism you & most others throw at Ye, he's done an awesome job. Em gets props from me too.

It's damned if you do and damned if you don't.

When did I criticize Kanye? I said alot of Chicago niggas don't listen to Kanye and Kanye doesn't contribute to Chicago Hip Hop. We don't see Kanye in the open mic and rap spots here and his name isn't on anything here. I personally appreciate his catalouge and I acknowledge his talent, but that has nothing to do with the fact that he doesn't do shit in Chicago. Why can't you understand what I'm telling you?

And Texas is technically Midwest territory.

 

[musicology1985]

When did I criticize Kanye? I said alot of Chicago niggas don't listen to Kanye and Kanye doesn't contribute to Chicago Hip Hop. We don't see Kanye in the open mic and rap spots here and his name isn't on anything here. I personally appreciate his catalouge and I acknowledge his talent, but that has nothing to do with the fact that he doesn't do shit in Chicago. Why can't you understand what I'm telling you?

And Texas is technically Midwest territory.

The same applies to EM, Baby, Diddy, 50, Jay and other moguls. At least they put cats on from their respective areas. J Prince is the only one that I know of with a strong community and street presence.

 

[soul rattler]

And it's a well known fact that a brother like Kanye would not get massive respect from the streets of the West and South Side of Chicago just like Em wouldn't in all of Detroit. That's just the way that it is.

BUT WHAT DO OUR PEOPLE WANT? A PAPER GANGSTER LIKE SLIM/BABY, JUICY J/DJ PAUL, DIDDY, J PRINCE OR SUGE & EAZY? Is that the leadership that we want? Then cats would be complaining about getting robbed.

Again, it's damned if you do or you don't in this rap game. because IF YOU PUT A STREET DUDE FROM THE CHI OR THE D IN THAT SPOT NIGGAS WILL BE CRYING OR TRYNA BUSS BACK

See, that's why you can't speak for the Midwest. You don't know what's going on in Chicago, so just speak about what you know. The reason Chicago hasn't blown up is because of the crab in a barrel mentality. It has nothing to do with looking for some type of gangster Messiah.

 

[soul rattler]

The same applies to EM, Baby, Diddy, 50, Jay and other moguls. At least they put cats on from their respective areas. J Prince is the only one that I know of with a strong community and street presence.

False. I know for a fact that D12 has a good relationship with Detroit. And G-Unit stay in Queens. I can't speak for Diddy, Baby, or Jay but the point is that Kanye doesn't do anything in Chicago so stop painting him to be some type of ambassador of Chicago... he's not.

 

[musicology1985]

See, that's why you can't speak for the Midwest. You don't know what's going on in Chicago, so just speak about what you know. The reason Chicago hasn't blown up is because of the crab in a barrel mentality. It has nothing to do with looking for some type of gangster Messiah.

Bullshit. People from Chicago complain about the crab mentality all of the time. N.O. had the same problem but a CEO like Slim/Baby & Suge can wade through that environment. Em & Kanye can't. However, with that comes a severe price for the artist.

 

[musicology1985]

False. I know for a fact that D12 has a good relationship with Detroit. And G-Unit stay in Queens. I can't speak for Diddy, Baby, or Jay but the point is that Kanye doesn't do anything in Chicago so stop painting him to be some type of ambassador of Chicago... he's not.

Don't nobody give a fuck about Eminem in Detroit man because he's not from the D, he's from Warren. Queens dudes stay calling 50 out for not being in the hood. Both are philanthropists and good dudes but they don't have grassroots support.

 

[soul rattler]

Bullshit. People from Chicago complain about the crab mentality all of the time. N.O. had the same problem but a CEO like Slim/Baby & Suge can wade through that environment. Em & Kanye can't. However, with that comes a severe price for the artist.

So what part of my post exactly was bullshit? You're just disagreeing with me for the hell of it at this point.

 

[soul rattler]

Damn dude stop derailing this thread. This shit ain't about New York and it ain't about the Midwest. It's about the South. Now answer this question: Do you think Southerners are dumber than you?

 

[musicology1985]

So what part of my post exactly was bullshit? You're just disagreeing with me for the hell of it at this point.

You said I don't know about Chicago's concerns. We hear them all of the time and are more connected than you think.

 

[soul rattler]

You said I don't know about Chicago's concerns. We hear them all of the time and are more connected than you think.

And we're less connected than you think.

 

[musicology1985]

Damn dude stop derailing this thread. This shit ain't about New York and it ain't about the Midwest. It's about the South. Now answer this question: Do you think Southerners are dumber than you?

I didn't derail shit, I came in here to show the other side of Midwest views. And no, the south ain't dumb, it's just a different type of smart do to different culture, values and environment.

 

[musicology1985]

And we're less connected than you think.

Bullshit. Chicago is the hegemony of the region. Brothers from the CHI talking shit about Detroit is nothing different than NYC talkin' down on Philly. It just comes with the territory. However, in the families, streets, politics and in business and music, the ties are there.

 

[soul rattler]

Bullshit. Chicago is the hegemony of the region. Brothers from the CHI talking shit about Detroit is nothing different than NYC talkin' down on Philly. It just comes with the territory. However, in the families, streets, politics and in business and music, the ties are there.

Lmao the Chicago/Detroit = NY/Philly thing may be true to an extent, but in this case it's warrented. Just look at Detroit:

Your best rapper is white

Your biggest rapper is white

Your wackest rapper is Bizarre

Your most embarressing group is ICP

Detroit is more successful in Gospel music than Rap music

Deal with THAT.

 

[musicology1985]

Lmao the Chicago/Detroit = NY/Philly thing may be true to an extent, but in this case it's warrented. Just look at Detroit:

Your best rapper is white
Your biggest rapper is white
Your wackest rapper is Bizarre
Your most embarressing group is ICP
Detroit is more successful in Gospel music than Rap music

Deal with THAT.

We were more successful in Soul music too, but our indie scene is way strong.

Anyway, I can deal with it. Y'all have the right to boast as top dogg. It's all part of the game. But you can never say that we moaned and complained about it like Philly does. We just battle each other in raps. It's all good.

 

[soul rattler]

We were more successful in Soul music too, but our indie scene is way strong.

Anyway, I can deal with it. Y'all have the right to boast as top dogg. It's all part of the game. But you can never say that we moaned and complained about it like Philly does. We just battle each other in raps. It's all good.

You annoy me. You really annoy me.

 

[goldenja]

Stop hatin the south

 

[musicology1985]

You annoy me. You really annoy me.

So fuckin' what man I don't care about your feelings. You supposed to be stronger than that.

 

[H-Rap 180]

We were more successful in Soul music too, but our indie scene is way strong.

Anyway, I can deal with it. Y'all have the right to boast as top dogg. It's all part of the game. But you can never say that we moaned and complained about it like Philly does. We just battle each other in raps. It's all good.

Motown!! Gotta give props were props are due.

 

[soul rattler]

So fuckin' what man I don't care about your feelings. You supposed to be stronger than that.

I said you annoy me, I didn't say shit about feelings. You're the one sucking New York dick, and now you're sucking Chicago dick too. Is there any type of dick you don't suck? nh