Tariq Nasheed pulls up on Tommy Sotomayor

[Peace_79]

For example, if you were President, how would YOU go about constitutionally "punishing" a police officer who got into a fatal altercation with a citizen?

And how would this action immediately STOP all similar altercations from occurring in the future.

Be specific.



BTW, this exchange has been all about perceived negative aspects of Obama.

Regarding my original point, can you think of any positive contributions that Obama has made to the black community?

As you find it so easy to excuse the faults of TN and appreciate his contributions... I wonder if you can apply the same skill to another black figure that you happen to not be fond of.

I would tell the attorney general WHO I APPOINTED TO PROSECUTE

Oh I'm sorry, that makes too much sense smh

Ok President Civix.

Once the Attorney General prosecutes and finds this police officer NOT GUILTY ...

Smh pseudo-intellectual

You basically just said there's no point in attempting to seek justice because black people won't get it

But you think you're making sense

Are you implying that Obama did not want justice for those black people that died?

What a stupid thing to say.

What I did was give you an example of how the prosecution of someone does NOT stop the CRIME from being committed in the future.

It doesn't even garuntee the conviction of the accused.



But the slow and thankless process of re-shaping the culture and systemic conditions that lead to given outcomes ...

Doesn't look as Bad Ass as abusing your authority to punish a single individual for a single Crime.

I illustrated how a rash and emotional decision to "look like you are doing something for black people" could actually make things worse in the long term.

Your answer to the race violence in our community is to set the precedent of POTUS commanding his Attorney General to prosecute civilian cases.

While dong nothing to address the root causes of the issue.

And you don't see how that's problematic.

 

[blackrain]

For example, if you were President, how would YOU go about constitutionally "punishing" a police officer who got into a fatal altercation with a citizen?

And how would this action immediately STOP all similar altercations from occurring in the future.

Be specific.



BTW, this exchange has been all about perceived negative aspects of Obama.

Regarding my original point, can you think of any positive contributions that Obama has made to the black community?

As you find it so easy to excuse the faults of TN and appreciate his contributions... I wonder if you can apply the same skill to another black figure that you happen to not be fond of.

I would tell the attorney general WHO I APPOINTED TO PROSECUTE

Oh I'm sorry, that makes too much sense smh

Ok President Civix.

Once the Attorney General prosecutes and finds this police officer NOT GUILTY ...

Smh pseudo-intellectual

You basically just said there's no point in attempting to seek justice because black people won't get it

But you think you're making sense

That's not what he said. You said tell them to prosecute as if that automatically means conviction which we've seen is not the case at all....so what's the next step when a not guilty be verdict comes down?

 

[xxCivicxx]

For example, if you were President, how would YOU go about constitutionally "punishing" a police officer who got into a fatal altercation with a citizen?

And how would this action immediately STOP all similar altercations from occurring in the future.

Be specific.



BTW, this exchange has been all about perceived negative aspects of Obama.

Regarding my original point, can you think of any positive contributions that Obama has made to the black community?

As you find it so easy to excuse the faults of TN and appreciate his contributions... I wonder if you can apply the same skill to another black figure that you happen to not be fond of.

I would tell the attorney general WHO I APPOINTED TO PROSECUTE

Oh I'm sorry, that makes too much sense smh

Ok President Civix.

Once the Attorney General prosecutes and finds this police officer NOT GUILTY ...

Smh pseudo-intellectual

You basically just said there's no point in attempting to seek justice because black people won't get it

But you think you're making sense

Are you implying that Obama did not want justice for those black people that died.

What a stupid thing to say.

What I did was give you an example of how the prosecution of someone does NOT stop the CRIME from being committed in the future.

It doesn't even garuntee the conviction of the accused.



I illustrated how a rash and emotional decision to "look like you are doing something for black people" could actually make things worse in the long term.

Your answer to the race violence in our community is to set the precedent of POTUS commanding his Attorney General to prosecute civilian cases.

While dong nothing to address the root causes of the issue.

And you don't see how that's problematic.

I'm implying NOTHING

I'm DIRECTLY STATING that Obama has the power to have these murderers prosecuted

And you're making excuses for him smh

 

[xxCivicxx]

For example, if you were President, how would YOU go about constitutionally "punishing" a police officer who got into a fatal altercation with a citizen?

And how would this action immediately STOP all similar altercations from occurring in the future.

Be specific.



BTW, this exchange has been all about perceived negative aspects of Obama.

Regarding my original point, can you think of any positive contributions that Obama has made to the black community?

As you find it so easy to excuse the faults of TN and appreciate his contributions... I wonder if you can apply the same skill to another black figure that you happen to not be fond of.

I would tell the attorney general WHO I APPOINTED TO PROSECUTE

Oh I'm sorry, that makes too much sense smh

Ok President Civix.

Once the Attorney General prosecutes and finds this police officer NOT GUILTY ...

Smh pseudo-intellectual

You basically just said there's no point in attempting to seek justice because black people won't get it

But you think you're making sense

That's not what he said. You said tell them to prosecute as if that automatically means conviction which we've seen is not the case at all....so what's the next step when a not guilty be verdict comes down?

Once again, why are you assuming that you know how every federal court case would go??

Why do you niggas think you know so much??

 

[5th Letter]

The odd thing is the DOJ under Obama has been aggressive against police misconduct, but doing a google search is harder than ranting and raving I guess.

And how many of them are locked up for said misconduct?

 

[xxCivicxx]

For example, if you were President, how would YOU go about constitutionally "punishing" a police officer who got into a fatal altercation with a citizen?

And how would this action immediately STOP all similar altercations from occurring in the future.

Be specific.



BTW, this exchange has been all about perceived negative aspects of Obama.

Regarding my original point, can you think of any positive contributions that Obama has made to the black community?

As you find it so easy to excuse the faults of TN and appreciate his contributions... I wonder if you can apply the same skill to another black figure that you happen to not be fond of.

I would tell the attorney general WHO I APPOINTED TO PROSECUTE

Oh I'm sorry, that makes too much sense smh

Ok President Civix.

Once the Attorney General prosecutes and finds this police officer NOT GUILTY ...

Smh pseudo-intellectual

You basically just said there's no point in attempting to seek justice because black people won't get it

But you think you're making sense

That's not what he said. You said tell them to prosecute as if that automatically means conviction which we've seen is not the case at all....so what's the next step when a not guilty be verdict comes down?

A lot of these people ARE NOT PROSECUTED AT ALL

You know this right?

How would federal prosecution be a step in the wrong direction?

Again, I ask you niggas, since everything is hopeless, what is your solution??

 

[blackrain]

For example, if you were President, how would YOU go about constitutionally "punishing" a police officer who got into a fatal altercation with a citizen?

And how would this action immediately STOP all similar altercations from occurring in the future.

Be specific.



BTW, this exchange has been all about perceived negative aspects of Obama.

Regarding my original point, can you think of any positive contributions that Obama has made to the black community?

As you find it so easy to excuse the faults of TN and appreciate his contributions... I wonder if you can apply the same skill to another black figure that you happen to not be fond of.

I would tell the attorney general WHO I APPOINTED TO PROSECUTE

Oh I'm sorry, that makes too much sense smh

Ok President Civix.

Once the Attorney General prosecutes and finds this police officer NOT GUILTY ...

Smh pseudo-intellectual

You basically just said there's no point in attempting to seek justice because black people won't get it

But you think you're making sense

That's not what he said. You said tell them to prosecute as if that automatically means conviction which we've seen is not the case at all....so what's the next step when a not guilty be verdict comes down?

Once again, why are you assuming that you know how every federal court case would go??

Why do you niggas think you know so much??

The person who constantly tells others that he knows more than them asking why others think they know so much. Your arrogance is hilarious. I never said I know how every case would go. I presented a hypothetical question hence the question mark at the end of it. If you can't answer just say you can't answer or else take your own advice remove your emotions and answer the question

 

[jono]

The odd thing is the DOJ under Obama has been aggressive against police misconduct, but doing a google search is harder than ranting and raving I guess.

And how many of them are locked up for said misconduct?

The DOJ looks into patterns of misconduct not isolated incidents and they are not involved with most criminal proceedings. That's why you have state and local law to enforce state and local law.

 

[5th Letter]

The odd thing is the DOJ under Obama has been aggressive against police misconduct, but doing a google search is harder than ranting and raving I guess.

And how many of them are locked up for said misconduct?

The DOJ looks into patterns of misconduct not isolated incidents and they are not involved with most criminal proceedings. That's why you have state and local law to enforce state and local law.

So basically no one gets prosecuted? What's the purpose of these so called investigations if nothing gets done?

 

[xxCivicxx]

For example, if you were President, how would YOU go about constitutionally "punishing" a police officer who got into a fatal altercation with a citizen?

And how would this action immediately STOP all similar altercations from occurring in the future.

Be specific.



BTW, this exchange has been all about perceived negative aspects of Obama.

Regarding my original point, can you think of any positive contributions that Obama has made to the black community?

As you find it so easy to excuse the faults of TN and appreciate his contributions... I wonder if you can apply the same skill to another black figure that you happen to not be fond of.

I would tell the attorney general WHO I APPOINTED TO PROSECUTE

Oh I'm sorry, that makes too much sense smh

Ok President Civix.

Once the Attorney General prosecutes and finds this police officer NOT GUILTY ...

Smh pseudo-intellectual

You basically just said there's no point in attempting to seek justice because black people won't get it

But you think you're making sense

That's not what he said. You said tell them to prosecute as if that automatically means conviction which we've seen is not the case at all....so what's the next step when a not guilty be verdict comes down?

Once again, why are you assuming that you know how every federal court case would go??

Why do you niggas think you know so much??

The person who constantly tells others that he knows more than them asking why others think they know so much. Your arrogance is hilarious. I never said I know how every case would go. I presented a hypothetical question hence the question mark at the end of it. If you can't answer just say you can't answer or else take your own advice remove your emotions and answer the question

I said that Obama has the power to prosecute

You chose to assume the most negative outcome of this prosecution

This is called framing. It has nothing to do with my statement

If a not guilty verdict comes down then WE ARE IN THE SAME POSITION THAT WE ARE IN NOW

So what's your point?

 

[ghostdog56]

Dam, you niggas is going at it in two threads

 

[Trillfate]

https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/809523736525217792

Lmao! Wow. Gotdamn

 

[a.mann]

WTH??

No president should have the unilateral power to force the attorney general prosecute citizens

Do you even understand the precedent that will set when inevitably a president (e.g. Trump)

gets into office who does NOT share your political & social views???

You cats love to go on & on about people being in their "emotions " but being overly emotional is why you can't see the wisdom as to WHY Obama did not tie the black community's plight to that of special laws,Executive Orders etc ""specifically" benefiting ONLY black people.

All that shit can be easily and legally over turned and taken away by the next Administration and Congress

Which is why Obama worked outside of Presidential office to directly help the community, with initiative like My Brother Keepers, job & tech training programs etc,etc

So you're saying there was absolutely zero things Obama could do to protect black people from race soldiers? Nothing at all? But this guy can sign off on Blue Lives Matter bills right after those cops got murdered in Dallas and Louisiana?

umm....

Okay, let me try it this way

Say YOU are President of a country where people of your (dark/brown) complexion is only 12.2% of the total population of 308,745,538 million

There are "Hate Crime" laws already on the books....So as President what other special Law, policy, legislation or Executive Order issued can REALLY protect us from 223,553,265 plus

"race soldiers " that have infiltrated EVERY facet of government,law,juridical,educational,housing institutions etc??

Exactly.

 

[a.mann]

The odd thing is the DOJ under Obama has been aggressive against police misconduct, but doing a google search is harder than ranting and raving I guess.

That's my main gripe with guys like Traiq,Umar,Walkins,Griff etc .... they (intentionally) simplify issues that are far more complex than...well black & white. And they do this because it's financial expedient to them

Yes,they may do a lot of good,but they also exploit the black community's anger,frustration,fear and paranoia to fatten their bank accounts

So you have (mainly) young and low educated black people believing that if President Obama only would have did THIS racist white people wouldn't act out on their hatred for us

 

[semi-auto-mato]

wait..who told y'all the president has the power to prosecute? the president can pardon someone but he does not have the power to prosecute anyone. that is the same with governors as well. the prez might ask that an investigation be opened but that's as much as he can. he can ask for an investigation. pardon and prosecution are two different powers. one is granted to the office of the president and the other is not.

 

[Muhannad]

Congressional pimp pt.1


Congressional pimp pt. 2


I always thought cooning was black people playing a stereotype for the amusement of whites. Dressing up as a pimp and playing out a stereotypical blaxploitation pimp character for Michael Moore? This was the textbook definition of cooning. Has Tariq ever addressed this blatant cooning he did for Michael Moore, since he likes to call others out on their cooning? Guess it takes one to know one...

Watch smart dumb brothas find a way to spin this sh*t though, because they lack any concept of integrity and have a clear confirmation bias. I've see one of them say that Tariq "murked" Tucker Carlson. Can't take these people seriously, man. They're like that conservative Fox news crowd, with the difference that Fox news crowd actually has some influence, while these n*ggas are worthless to anyone..

I said it months ago lmaooo

Hes the type to be like "we used to be egyptian kings....ow yeah buy my dvds $39.99 btw"

Herbs be like yeah we were kings!! Take my $$$$$

Every solution to so called white supremacy and racism involves marks paying him. "Blacks gotta practise group economics". Solution: "Donate to Hidden Colors, family", "Support Hidden Colors so you know how to deal with white supremacy and systemic racism, family". You gotta go to his lectures, buy his lectures on ppv, buy his P. Miller-esque apparel. So group economics leads to lining this brother's pockets. "We used to be kings in queens back in the day." "The big bad evil white man hid our glorious history from us. We were more than slaves, family." Solution: Buy his revisionist Afrocentric BS docs laced with half truths, unsubstantiated lies, exaggerations and pseudo science. That info has been available for over 2 decades, but you wanna hide something from a brother put it in a book. How does that "good information" impact the life of the average black man anyway? "Facebook wants to suppress black opinions. We gotta have our own social network, family." Solution: Pay for my "Moorus" app.

Like I said... Every solution to dealing racism and oppression ends up with his followers having to come out the pocket. These race hustlers are litterally like these prosperity pimps. Replace God with black empowerment (I've actually seen some of them equate black women with God LMAO) and devil with white people or white supremacy. Coons, bedwenches (all racist terms used during slavery by white racists) = sinners. cooning, buckdancing = sinning. The bible = Afrocentric ancient 'knowledge' like Egypt. Pass the offering = donate to (insert BS cause or getting "good information"). These race hustlers prey on the weak. All that crying about white supremacy is living losers an out. Now they can blame the big bad white man for all of their failures instead of reflecting on their own f*cked up life choices. Ain't too much different from these white trash hicks blaming all their failures on blacks or Jews. These footsoldiers are always the losers of society.

Listen to their podcasts and listen to the followers calling into their shows. You'll notice that their followers ain't well established professional black men. They're these same smart dumb brithers that you see in this thread.

Just like these prosperity pimps these race hustlers don't live amongst their 'congregation'. Only time they associate with their congregation is when their 'congregation' pays them for their services ie lectures/ movie premiers/ debates etc. These brothers are hustling these marks and I can't get mad at them. If you see a fool bump they head...

 

[Peace_79]

Racism is embedded into the various sub-cultures and cornerstone institutions of America.

You don't end it by setting extreme precedents to prosecute one person ...

You don't end it by condemning laws that discourage violence against the police ...

You don't end it with one magic Bill with the phrase "only for black people" in it ...

You don't end it ... at all.

You lessen its affects on the populous by doing the long, boring work of excising it from the various cultures and institutions that it presides

With initiatives like -

-Universal Healthcare

-Equal Access to Education

-Economic Opportunity

-Un-biased Criminal Justice

-And fostering a tolerance of unique perspectives

^^^ But nah -

"All that shit is bitch-made."

"Instead, Obama should ignore the office of the President and play judge, jury, and executioner on a case by case basis - just like a Real Nigga."

 

[xxCivicxx]

Smh you niggas are litearally arguing with yourselves and you don't have a main point

 

[5th Letter]

WTH??

No president should have the unilateral power to force the attorney general prosecute citizens

Do you even understand the precedent that will set when inevitably a president (e.g. Trump)

gets into office who does NOT share your political & social views???

You cats love to go on & on about people being in their "emotions " but being overly emotional is why you can't see the wisdom as to WHY Obama did not tie the black community's plight to that of special laws,Executive Orders etc ""specifically" benefiting ONLY black people.

All that shit can be easily and legally over turned and taken away by the next Administration and Congress

Which is why Obama worked outside of Presidential office to directly help the community, with initiative like My Brother Keepers, job & tech training programs etc,etc

So you're saying there was absolutely zero things Obama could do to protect black people from race soldiers? Nothing at all? But this guy can sign off on Blue Lives Matter bills right after those cops got murdered in Dallas and Louisiana?

umm....

Okay, let me try it this way

Say YOU are President of a country where people of your (dark/brown) complexion is only 12.2% of the total population of 308,745,538 million

There are "Hate Crime" laws already on the books....So as President what other special Law, policy, legislation or Executive Order issued can REALLY protect us from 223,553,265 plus

"race soldiers " that have infiltrated EVERY facet of government,law,juridical,educational,housing institutions etc??

Exactly.

If black people are such a small group that it makes no sense to do specific things for them then why was Obama telling black people to go vote? Why pander for votes from such a small group? If he's pandering for our votes, then why is it wrong to ask for specific things? Why is it blasphemous in y'all eyes to question certain things? To your second point police already has protection yet that didn't stop Obama from passing a blue lives matter bill. Exactly.

 

[NoCompetition]

I think the key to this guy's thing falling apart recently is the way the election went. He and his followers thought They would continue to have the luxury of criticizing the Democrats. Because there would always be something to criticize regardless because politics and reality isnt have everything the way you may want it individually. Everybody cant have it politically exactly as they want it.

So now what? the Democrats arent in power any more. That shoots down his whole political nonsense and ends all that. People are starting to ask questions and see him in a more realistic light. Because they have no choice. Like your idiotic "strategy" was a loser. Hmm what are you even saying? Where does that get us? Questions and thoughts they are late on, but better late than never. Thats not even counting the ones who never fcked with it to begin with.