Spinoff: What if WADE was on the 09-10 Cavaliers..

[King Erauno]

didnt wade torch them for 45 one game?

WADE>>>>>>>>CELTICS>>>>>>>>>>>BRON

 

[yroholla]

The mesh is different.. you just cant cut and paste ppl into different situations.. IFs dont happen.. this is not franchise mode on your favorite video game

I agree the mesh is different, but to say that Wade with this years Cavs would be 8th seed and he took maaaaaad bums with a coach with limited experience to 5th seed is either flat out hating or arguing just to argue. Ur credibility is on the line with that statement no offense

 

[aquizzle]

The Celtics defense is good, but I don't think they would've been able to contain both of them @ the same time.

I thought he was substituting LeBron for Wade. My bad lol

 

[R.D.]

Not sure how this would ever work considering they both need the ball in their hands to do damage

 

[CoolJoe]

I still see people falling back on the "Lebron doesn't have a team" excuse. I'm like yo....Lebron had more overall talent around him than almost any other superstar in the league except for maybe Carmelo Anthony. I'd bet a G that if you gave Kobe, Lebron's team he would have took them to the championship.

Are you serious? Do you see what the Lakers frontline did to the Jazz? Kobe's teammates stepped up during the playoffs, and LeBron's didn't.

I highly doubt Wade would have led the team past the Celtics, unless Wade would have somehow stopped Rondo/KG, and Pierce wouldn't have been in foul trouble the entire series because he wouldn't have had to guard Wade.....Cavs would have gotten annihilated, and you do realize that LeBron plays SF while Wade is 6'4 and plays shooting guard.....explain to me how that would work.

 

[playmaker88]

Not sure how this would ever work considering they both need the ball in their hands to do damage

Ding.. Ding

 

[CMac]

LOL I told my dad the same shit last night that Wade gave the C's a harder time then James did, but I still don't think the Cavs would have won, it would have went to a game 7 though.

The C's are just too deep and now there bench is starting to play better, the only team that has a chance against them in the east is The Magic

 

[yroholla]

Are you serious? Do you see what the Lakers frontline did to the Jazz? Kobe's teammates stepped up during the playoffs, and LeBron's didn't.

I highly doubt Wade would have led the team past the Celtics, unless Wade would have somehow stopped Rondo/KG, and Pierce wouldn't have been in foul trouble the entire series because he wouldn't have had to guard Wade.....Cavs would have gotten annihilated, and you do realize that LeBron plays SF while Wade is 6'4 and plays shooting guard.....explain to me how that would work.

Well if u were watching the games u would see that The Celtics really only had to worry about Wade because he was pretty much the only real offensive threat so most of their focus was on Wade....and they still couldn't stop him from playing well.

LeBron has more talent on the Cavs which meant that they couldn't really only focus on LeBron but they still held him to poor performances.

I'm only going off what i saw....

 

[CoolJoe]

Ok.....Wade would have played better than LeBron,although they were completely different teams I'll give you that.

The starting Line Up would have been Mo Williams/Wade/Parker/Jamison/Shaq vs Rondo/Allen/Pierce/KG/Perkins....................Tell me exactly how the hell the Cavs would stop that line up? LeBron did a number on Pierce because he played good defense and got him in foul trouble....Rondo would have continued to torch the Cavs, and Pierce would have had his way with Parker, while KG showed that Jamison couldn't fuck with him.

Celtics would have averaged about 110 ppg at the least playing against that Line-up, you're completely disregarding the defensive end of the floor which is a large part of why the Cavs lost.

You're also completely disregarding the fact that LeBron's teammates played fucking horrible, but alright.

 

[yroholla]

Ok.....Wade would have played better than LeBron,although they were completely different teams I'll give you that.

The starting Line Up would have been Mo Williams/Wade/Parker/Jamison/Shaq vs Rondo/Allen/Pierce/KG/Perkins....................Tell me exactly how the hell the Cavs would stop that line up? LeBron did a number on Pierce because he played good defense and got him in foul trouble....Rondo would have continued to torch the Cavs, and Pierce would have had his way with Parker, while KG showed that Jamison couldn't fuck with him.

Celtics would have averaged about 110 ppg at the least playing against that Line-up, you're completely disregarding the defensive end of the floor which is a large part of why the Cavs lost.

You're also completely disregarding the fact that LeBron's teammates played fucking horrible, but alright.

Well the way u broke it down looks real nice.... only thing is the Celts avg 95.8 pts per games against the lowly Heat first round with Arroyo/Wade/Q Rich/Beasley/J Oneal starting with no names coming off the bench, u mean to tell me Wade on the Cavs woulda gave up 15 more points per game??? Highly unlikely. U don't even believe that.

 

[CoolJoe]

Well the way u broke it down looks real nice.... only thing is the Celts avg 95.8 pts per games against the lowly Heat first round with Arroyo/Wade/Q Rich/Beasley/J Oneal starting with no names coming off the bench, u mean to tell me Wade on the Cavs woulda gave up 15 more points per game??? Highly unlikely. U don't even believe that.

I could careless what they averaged against the heat, we're talking about the Cav's team here, except you switched out LeBron with Wade, stop referring back to what they did against the Heat, those are completely different players, and look at how the Cavs couldn't find an answer for KG/Rondo. Once LeBron leaves, the Celtics will be even better matched up with the Cavs, and that's clear as hell.

But if you can tell me how Wade will stop the defensive holes, using the CAVS players, then I'll consider your argument to be a little better.

 

[yroholla]

I could careless what they averaged against the heat, we're talking about the Cav's team here, except you switched out LeBron with Wade, stop referring back to what they did against the Heat, those are completely different players, and look at how the Cavs couldn't find an answer for KG/Rondo. Once LeBron leaves, the Celtics will be even better matched up with the Cavs, and that's clear as hell.

But if you can tell me how Wade will stop the defensive holes, using the CAVS players, then I'll consider your argument to be a little better.

Lol u the one making up numbers I'm just giving u real numbers. I'm simply saying the cavs have more talent that warrants more attention defensively for the Celtics. Who in the league can really stop ray allen,paul pierce and rondo simultaneously anyway. Certainly not arroyo, chalmers, wright, q rich, rookie coach.

@ least Wade took the L running around mad screens from brolic niggas like perkins chasing ray allen. Guarded Rondo as well and still beasted on them niggas offensively thru double/triple teams. Bron never worked as hard on D so he actually shoulda performed better offensively but we can't change that now.

 

[yroholla]

Plus ur definately not giving credit to the Celtics anyway. Only lapse on D consistanly was parker cause rondo got whatever he wanted. He had good games on the heat but not like THAT. Wade guarded him more than Bron as well. Overall I just think Wade kept it more competitive when his team was fucking up and he did it better and more often offensively and defensively. Its just the celts are way

better from top to bench

His type of talent can mesh with any team. Superstars tend to have that quality imo. and its not just limited to Wade he just went harder and it was clearly a lack of talent around him. Lebron disappointed me as well

 

[CoolJoe]

I'm not giving credit to the Celtics? When I'm the one asking how the Cavs will stop 3 of their starting 5......You still haven't answered how putting in a 6'4 guard for a 6'8 Small Forward would help a team...because you can't.

 

[yroholla]

I'm not giving credit to the Celtics? When I'm the one asking how the Cavs will stop 3 of their starting 5......You still haven't answered how putting in a 6'4 guard for a 6'8 Small Forward would help a team...because you can't.

Ur really not giving credit but u have no choice but to word it that way cause the Celtics beat the Cavs already.

Of course Wade can't guard Pierce. He didn't guard him first round either yet the team stayed competitive mainly because of Wade.

Nobody on the Heat or the Cavs can really guard Pierce. Not sure what ur point is...

 

[CoolJoe]

Ur really not giving credit but u have no choice but to word it that way cause the Celtics beat the Cavs already.

Of course Wade can't guard Pierce. He didn't guard him first round either yet the team stayed competitive mainly because of Wade.

Nobody on the Heat or the Cavs can really guard Pierce. Not sure what ur point is...

Still haven't explained how switching a 6'8 small forward with a 6'4 guard would help the Cavs....like I said you can't.

 

[young chad]

Man...if Wade was on this Cavs teams, THIS Cavs team..they'd be playing Orlando right now...here's why:

First of all, Anthony Parker wouldnt be starting, the line-up would be: Williams/Wade/Moon/Jamison/Shaq

Now..Lebron's problem vs the Celts?? No mid-range game..Celts gave him that 3 all day (that he falls in love with whenever the lane is clogged i.e. Shaq/Perkins big bodies)...Wade doesn't shoot the 3 that often, he'd be roaming around the 17 ft area..allowing Mo Williams and Antawn to play the perimeter especially with the defense collapsing to help. Say what you want about Mo Williams, it's not his fault Lebron stands at the 3 point line and renders Mo useless..(hey, if I'm supposed to shoot 3s, but my guy doesn't leave me to help on you, WTF YOU WANT ME TO DO?!).

Rondo and tony Allen go from double teaming Lebron on the perimeter (which still allowed Rondo to get back to Mo Williams)..to either Rondo or KG collapsing on D. Wade, which gives Jamison and Mo the room they need to be effective on the perimeter.

Defensively Wade would give Ray Allen problems, (since he'd either already be in foul trouble, or flat out tired from guarding him anyway). And we all know when Ray has to play defense, his offense suffers. Pierce is slow, he relies on shooting over his defenders with an array of fakes and head pumps with his back to the basket, then turning around and shooting..Moon (not much of an offensive threat anyway)..would have enough energy to atleast stay infront of him.

If Wade is on the Cavs, Mo Williams and Antawn average about 17ppg a piece..Wade avgs his usual 30..Hickson/Varajo/Jamison do their best to slow down KG by speeding him up. You bring in Anthony Parker/Delonte West to defend Rondo every so often as well as still be able to shoot the perimeter shot..Celts win maybe 1 game, possibly 2...

 

[yroholla]

Still haven't explained how switching a 6'8 small forward with a 6'4 guard would help the Cavs....like I said you can't.

Wades a superstar..... unless we talking about legit big men Im not sure how switching two beasty niggas who essentially do the same shit is problematic....

Ur reaching right now, Clearly this 6'4 guard played better than the 6'8 small forward against the same team where it really matters...

Id assume LeBrons your favorite player, no?

 

[yroholla]

Man...if Wade was on this Cavs teams, THIS Cavs team..they'd be playing Orlando right now...here's why:

First of all, Anthony Parker wouldnt be starting, the line-up would be: Williams/Wade/Moon/Jamison/Shaq

Now..Lebron's problem vs the Celts?? No mid-range game..Celts gave him that 3 all day (that he falls in love with whenever the lane is clogged i.e. Shaq/Perkins big bodies)...Wade doesn't shoot the 3 that often, he'd be roaming around the 17 ft area..allowing Mo Williams and Antawn to play the perimeter especially with the defense collapsing to help. Say what you want about Mo Williams, it's not his fault Lebron stands at the 3 point line and renders Mo useless..(hey, if I'm supposed to shoot 3s, but my guy doesn't leave me to help on you, WTF YOU WANT ME TO DO?!).

Rondo and tony Allen go from double teaming Lebron on the perimeter (which still allowed Rondo to get back to Mo Williams)..to either Rondo or KG collapsing on D. Wade, which gives Jamison and Mo the room they need to be effective on the perimeter.

Defensively Wade would give Ray Allen problems, (since he'd either already be in foul trouble, or flat out tired from guarding him anyway). And we all know when Ray has to play defense, his offense suffers. Pierce is slow, he relies on shooting over his defenders with an array of fakes and head pumps with his back to the basket, then turning around and shooting..Moon (not much of an offensive threat anyway)..would have enough energy to atleast stay infront of him.

If Wade is on the Cavs, Mo Williams and Antawn average about 17ppg a piece..Wade avgs his usual 30..Hickson/Varajo/Jamison do their best to slow down KG by speeding him up. You bring in Anthony Parker/Delonte West to defend Rondo every so often as well as still be able to shoot the perimeter shot..Celts win maybe 1 game, possibly 2...

Good read, I figured Id just ass to this with emphasis the fucking starting lineup on the bench in the 4th.... Great example of terrible coaching and still busting ass regardless

 

[CoolJoe]

Wades a superstar..... unless we talking about legit big men Im not sure how switching two beasty niggas who essentially do the same shit is problematic....

Ur reaching right now, Clearly this 6'4 guard played better than the 6'8 small forward against the same team where it really matters...

Id assume LeBrons your favorite player, no?

Definitely not my favorite player, Wade doesn't do the same thing because he wouldn't guard Pierce......