So, uhh.. was 9/11 an inside job or nah?

[VIBE]

You can look at the evidence for yourself, though.

You can find out through other independent investigations.

The theories aren't logical.

I believe that the govt knew this would happen, but they allowed it to happen for their own personal gain. Political chess. No one needed to bring down buildings. No one needed to fake any thing in any of these situations.

Allow it to happen and that's it.

No one knew the buildings would collapse..

Hell, Flight 93 was over-taken by the passengers.

This the LIHOP idea.. "let it happen on purpose"...

other than that; bombs, fake planes, holograms, rc planes, fake phone calls, thermite, missiles etc didn't happen and didn't need to happen

you keep saying the govt are liars, and I agree, but nothing they proposed about 9/11 has been a lie.. how can they lie or even attempt to pull off a lie when there's tons of video evidence? then u have the CT's providing doctored photos, even video, and twisting witnesses words.. 9/11 was a public event, millions watched, thousands were there in person, over 100 seen Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, not one said it was a military plane or missile..

there is NO reason to say this was an "inside job"... but there is reason to say they LIHOP..

(I know, nit-pick that I said things that weren't said, I'm just saying what I've heard over the years)

 

[Breezy_Kilroy]

My thing is this, if we know for a fact that they flew planes into the 2 world trade center buildings, because we have it on tape and nobody really disputes that..why would they have to lie about the Pentagon?

What big deal would it be to throw another plane into the Pentagon? What sense does it make to actually fly planes into the twin towers and then go ahead and fake a plane going into the Pentagon?

@blackamerica‌

@xxCivicxx‌

Because Pentagon supposedly guards the area around it very seriously and it took a high level of piloting precision for the Pentagon to be hit like it was. Some people are saying that the plane may have hit the ground first and rollled into the building but then there would be no way that it could have been disintegrated

And again, no one has answered why there's no actual amateur footage of the impact when it's a fact that amateur footage was recorded

But that doesn't answer the motive of faking it though when they actually did it without dispute at the world trade center.

Why would they fly two planes into the world trade center and then say fuck it with the pentagon and just fire a missile and then go to the scene and sprinkle burned plane parts. If the pentagon is such a hard target to hit the government could of attacked another target.

Just to be clear, I think something smells with 9/11 but I don't think whether or not a plane hit the pentagon or not is the thing that should be disputed.

Looking at it objectively it would be a lot harder to hit the pentagon than two of the largest buildings in NY.

The window for error is a lot smaller. You would be a lot more accurate with a missile than a 757 going 500mph.

Whoever flew that plane would have to be an expert to know when to descend. If not they could've easily missed. At that rate you have no control. It's just in a downward spiral.

You would think the plane would've hit the top of the building rather than the side. Come to think of it why wouldn't they do that? Way more damage could've been done flying the plane into the center of the Pentagon.

 

[xxCivicxx]

My thing is this, if we know for a fact that they flew planes into the 2 world trade center buildings, because we have it on tape and nobody really disputes that..why would they have to lie about the Pentagon?

What big deal would it be to throw another plane into the Pentagon? What sense does it make to actually fly planes into the twin towers and then go ahead and fake a plane going into the Pentagon?

@blackamerica‌

@xxCivicxx‌

Because Pentagon supposedly guards the area around it very seriously and it took a high level of piloting precision for the Pentagon to be hit like it was. Some people are saying that the plane may have hit the ground first and rollled into the building but then there would be no way that it could have been disintegrated

And again, no one has answered why there's no actual amateur footage of the impact when it's a fact that amateur footage was recorded

But that doesn't answer the motive of faking it though when they actually did it without dispute at the world trade center.

Why would they fly two planes into the world trade center and then say fuck it with the pentagon and just fire a missile and then go to the scene and sprinkle burned plane parts. If the pentagon is such a hard target to hit the government could of attacked another target.

Just to be clear, I think something smells with 9/11 but I don't think whether or not a plane hit the pentagon or not is the thing that should be disputed.

Looking at it objectively it would be a lot harder to hit the pentagon than two of the largest buildings in NY.

The window for error is a lot smaller. You would be a lot more accurate with a missile than a 757 going 500mph.

Whoever flew that plane would have to be an expert to know when to descend. If not they could've easily missed. At that rate you have no control. It's just in a downward spiral.

You would think the plane would've hit the top of the building rather than the side. Come to think of it why wouldn't they do that? Way more damage could've been done flying the plane into the center of the Pentagon.

That side of the building randomly had way less than the normal amount of working staff inside of it the day of the attack. The goal wasn't to destroy the Pentagon or any important data within, it was just to scare americans into giving up more rights and circumvent the constitution-established channels of starting a war

 

[xxCivicxx]

Why is the planes shown hitting the towers but still till this day we haven't seen the plane hitting the Pentagon?

Always wondered what was the point of not showing that.

dont worry Vibe will explain why the pentagon doesnt appear to have been struck by a Boeing 747

what happened to the wings?

The problem here is it didn't hit straight, it hit from an angle, as the bottom of the building will show... from tip to tip, but as it did, it folded/sheered off the wings,

the engines there in the debris field.. along w more debris of course

but they don't wanna show you that, they want you to believe no plane hit..

btw planes = aluminum..

here is a pic of a bunch of plane parts around the wreckage of the Pentagon that was already posted.

so, let me see if I understand it correctly what you conspiracy folks are proposing.

2 planes crashed into the WTC, you're not disputing that.. another crash landed into a field, ok.

but instead of doing the same to the Pentagon and just to make shit extra complicated, our government conspirators decided to shoot a rocket or whatever else that's not a plane into the Pentagon, and then cover it up by pretending it was a B757. so what you're proposing happened, if I understand you correctly, is that at some time after the event, somebody loaded up a truck load of burnt up half-destroyed aircraft parts, and drove around the site distributing them around like some conspirator Johnny-Appleseed.. so people could take pictures of them to back up the false story that it was not a rocket but a B757. OK gotcha

Again, nothing on that lawn looks like an airplane part they just look like and could be scraps of anything.

The reason I posted that link is because I searched nosedives and it came up. When I get home I'm gonna post the original link that I wanted to post

 

[xxCivicxx]

You can look at the evidence for yourself, though.

You can find out through other independent investigations.

The theories aren't logical.

I believe that the govt knew this would happen, but they allowed it to happen for their own personal gain. Political chess. No one needed to bring down buildings. No one needed to fake any thing in any of these situations.

Allow it to happen and that's it.

No one knew the buildings would collapse..

Hell, Flight 93 was over-taken by the passengers.

This the LIHOP idea.. "let it happen on purpose"...

other than that; bombs, fake planes, holograms, rc planes, fake phone calls, thermite, missiles etc didn't happen and didn't need to happen

you keep saying the govt are liars, and I agree, but nothing they proposed about 9/11 has been a lie.. how can they lie or even attempt to pull off a lie when there's tons of video evidence? then u have the CT's providing doctored photos, even video, and twisting witnesses words.. 9/11 was a public event, millions watched, thousands were there in person, over 100 seen Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, not one said it was a military plane or missile..

there is NO reason to say this was an "inside job"... but there is reason to say they LIHOP..

(I know, nit-pick that I said things that weren't said, I'm just saying what I've heard over the years)

But that's the issue though, I raised certain specific questions and you keep jumping around. You're just trying to discredit what I'm saying by lumping it in with actual crazy talk.

First missiles hitting the etc now holograms? Ok

Millions of people watched wall street crash the world but only a few were smart enough to see it coming and those few are the only ones smart enough to see that it's happening again. I can be responsible for your intelligence. I have a strong hard science/engineering background so I apply for the scientific method when forming my opinions my own judgement brought me to this point, nothing else

 

[VIBE]

You see the part where I say "nit-pick what I said, I'm speaking on what I've heard over the years"? It may or may not be directed at you, you can see what I'm saying overall.

I was 15 when 9/11 happened, I was introduced into all the theories around 17/18.

I've heard a lot of different theories. I'm not saying you guys believe in them all, I'm just speaking in general.

I find it funny you choose to pick on that yet ignore the debris as "looks like scraps of anything"

wheels? landing gear? colors/lettering of American Airlines?

You cannot be that ignorant.

Again, I posted evidence, actual pictures and you once again ignore it because it doesn't fit into what you want it to.

Strange, no?

 

[VIBE]

Here..

again, you can do the research yourself if you don't believe what I post, or compare it to what I've previously posted

^ the 'n'

^ 'n' lined up

the 'c'

all consistent w what I posted in the group photos of the debris on the lawn of the Pentagon...

but some how they happened to quickly sprinkle all this on the lawn after impact? with hundreds watching that were there?

here's all the engine parts, w the blueprints to back it up, an yes, these were on scene, these are the exact photos..

 

[VIBE]

So, how did these 757 plane parts from an American Airlines jet end up on the lawn of the Pentagon?

 

[VIBE]

My thing is this, if we know for a fact that they flew planes into the 2 world trade center buildings, because we have it on tape and nobody really disputes that..why would they have to lie about the Pentagon?

What big deal would it be to throw another plane into the Pentagon? What sense does it make to actually fly planes into the twin towers and then go ahead and fake a plane going into the Pentagon?

@blackamerica‌

@xxCivicxx‌

Because Pentagon supposedly guards the area around it very seriously and it took a high level of piloting precision for the Pentagon to be hit like it was. Some people are saying that the plane may have hit the ground first and rollled into the building but then there would be no way that it could have been disintegrated

And again, no one has answered why there's no actual amateur footage of the impact when it's a fact that amateur footage was recorded

But that doesn't answer the motive of faking it though when they actually did it without dispute at the world trade center.

Why would they fly two planes into the world trade center and then say fuck it with the pentagon and just fire a missile and then go to the scene and sprinkle burned plane parts. If the pentagon is such a hard target to hit the government could of attacked another target.

Just to be clear, I think something smells with 9/11 but I don't think whether or not a plane hit the pentagon or not is the thing that should be disputed.

Looking at it objectively it would be a lot harder to hit the pentagon than two of the largest buildings in NY.

The window for error is a lot smaller. You would be a lot more accurate with a missile than a 757 going 500mph.

Whoever flew that plane would have to be an expert to know when to descend. If not they could've easily missed. At that rate you have no control. It's just in a downward spiral.

You would think the plane would've hit the top of the building rather than the side. Come to think of it why wouldn't they do that? Way more damage could've been done flying the plane into the center of the Pentagon.

That side of the building randomly had way less than the normal amount of working staff inside of it the day of the attack. The goal wasn't to destroy the Pentagon or any important data within, it was just to scare americans into giving up more rights and circumvent the constitution-established channels of starting a war

It wasn't random.

125 died in the building.

Many weren't there, as it was still mid-morning or many were in meetings, as per usual.

Nothing about "there should've been more ppl! Therefore, it's knowledge they knew this was happen! Therefore, conspiracy!"

LOL nah

 

[xxCivicxx]

So, how did these 757 plane parts from an American Airlines jet end up on the lawn of the Pentagon?

I really don't understand why you keep posting this when I've already said multiple times that you haven't shown me any plane parts, just scraps and a wheel. Just because you say it again and again that won't make me suddenly believe you...

You still haven't explained why there's no publicly available picture/video/anything of the crash. If I saw a video of the impact then how could I deny that? What's the point of the government confiscating the footage in the first place? They didn't confiscate the footage from the etc crashes those have been widely available for viewing since the event

 

[Melqart]

My thing is this, if we know for a fact that they flew planes into the 2 world trade center buildings, because we have it on tape and nobody really disputes that..why would they have to lie about the Pentagon?

What big deal would it be to throw another plane into the Pentagon? What sense does it make to actually fly planes into the twin towers and then go ahead and fake a plane going into the Pentagon?

@blackamerica‌

@xxCivicxx‌

Because Pentagon supposedly guards the area around it very seriously and it took a high level of piloting precision for the Pentagon to be hit like it was. Some people are saying that the plane may have hit the ground first and rollled into the building but then there would be no way that it could have been disintegrated

And again, no one has answered why there's no actual amateur footage of the impact when it's a fact that amateur footage was recorded

But that doesn't answer the motive of faking it though when they actually did it without dispute at the world trade center.

Why would they fly two planes into the world trade center and then say fuck it with the pentagon and just fire a missile and then go to the scene and sprinkle burned plane parts. If the pentagon is such a hard target to hit the government could of attacked another target.

Just to be clear, I think something smells with 9/11 but I don't think whether or not a plane hit the pentagon or not is the thing that should be disputed.

Looking at it objectively it would be a lot harder to hit the pentagon than two of the largest buildings in NY.

The window for error is a lot smaller. You would be a lot more accurate with a missile than a 757 going 500mph.

Whoever flew that plane would have to be an expert to know when to descend. If not they could've easily missed. At that rate you have no control. It's just in a downward spiral.

You would think the plane would've hit the top of the building rather than the side. Come to think of it why wouldn't they do that? Way more damage could've been done flying the plane into the center of the Pentagon.

That side of the building randomly had way less than the normal amount of working staff inside of it the day of the attack. The goal wasn't to destroy the Pentagon or any important data within, it was just to scare americans into giving up more rights and circumvent the constitution-established channels of starting a war

The side that was hit was also up for renovation. How convenient.

 

[xxCivicxx]

My thing is this, if we know for a fact that they flew planes into the 2 world trade center buildings, because we have it on tape and nobody really disputes that..why would they have to lie about the Pentagon?

What big deal would it be to throw another plane into the Pentagon? What sense does it make to actually fly planes into the twin towers and then go ahead and fake a plane going into the Pentagon?

@blackamerica‌

@xxCivicxx‌

Because Pentagon supposedly guards the area around it very seriously and it took a high level of piloting precision for the Pentagon to be hit like it was. Some people are saying that the plane may have hit the ground first and rollled into the building but then there would be no way that it could have been disintegrated

And again, no one has answered why there's no actual amateur footage of the impact when it's a fact that amateur footage was recorded

But that doesn't answer the motive of faking it though when they actually did it without dispute at the world trade center.

Why would they fly two planes into the world trade center and then say fuck it with the pentagon and just fire a missile and then go to the scene and sprinkle burned plane parts. If the pentagon is such a hard target to hit the government could of attacked another target.

Just to be clear, I think something smells with 9/11 but I don't think whether or not a plane hit the pentagon or not is the thing that should be disputed.

Looking at it objectively it would be a lot harder to hit the pentagon than two of the largest buildings in NY.

The window for error is a lot smaller. You would be a lot more accurate with a missile than a 757 going 500mph.

Whoever flew that plane would have to be an expert to know when to descend. If not they could've easily missed. At that rate you have no control. It's just in a downward spiral.

You would think the plane would've hit the top of the building rather than the side. Come to think of it why wouldn't they do that? Way more damage could've been done flying the plane into the center of the Pentagon.

That side of the building randomly had way less than the normal amount of working staff inside of it the day of the attack. The goal wasn't to destroy the Pentagon or any important data within, it was just to scare americans into giving up more rights and circumvent the constitution-established channels of starting a war

It wasn't random.

125 died in the building.

Many weren't there, as it was still mid-morning or many were in meetings, as per usual.

Nothing about "there should've been more ppl! Therefore, it's knowledge they knew this was happen! Therefore, conspiracy!"

LOL nah

Jesus Christ you're naive

 

[_Lefty]

Building 7 still got a nigga over here with the people's eyebrow, they put it right out here in front of us. That's some bold shit. I don't think the conspiracies go as far as most people think, but we put our trust in a sinister, sinister government B. Sometimes for the good, sometimes for the bad.

 

[NuLife]

So people are really in here saying that clearly visible plane parts are indeed not plane parts?

Looks like plane scraps to me... but i guess that just me.

Of all the arguments presented in here, I really can't see how that one detail can be disputed. Doesn't mean it wasn't an inside job, but it still looks like it was a plane that did it regardless of how it happened.

 

[brown321]

I remember when Biden killed him with that line. I should have voted for that dude off the strength of that.

Whoever flew that plane would have to be an expert to know when to descend. If not they could've easily missed. At that rate you have no control. It's just in a downward spiral.

You would think the plane would've hit the top of the building rather than the side. Come to think of it why wouldn't they do that? Way more damage could've been done flying the plane into the center of the Pentagon.

That's the thing about the Pentgon attack. The section they hit just happened to be reinforced for a missile attack.

The pilot made sure to fly barley off the ground as if he was trying to localize damage to the section which is way harder to do than just crashing it into the roof.

The terrorist did a lot of unnecessary risky shit that day. I think they knew they weren't going to be stopped.

 

[VIBE]

So, how did these 757 plane parts from an American Airlines jet end up on the lawn of the Pentagon?

I really don't understand why you keep posting this when I've already said multiple times that you haven't shown me any plane parts, just scraps and a wheel. Just because you say it again and again that won't make me suddenly believe you...

You still haven't explained why there's no publicly available picture/video/anything of the crash. If I saw a video of the impact then how could I deny that? What's the point of the government confiscating the footage in the first place? They didn't confiscate the footage from the etc crashes those have been widely available for viewing since the event

I haven't posted plane parts?

Wheels, landing gear, turbine rotors, plane colors; silver, red and blue, an actual part labeled AA, which stands for American Airlines..

no parts?

again, no parts?

are you sure?

you expect the whole plane to still be intact, right?

like, what you see in a crash landing, right?

you obviously aren't factoring in speed and how it hit... your ignorance is showing..

LOL @ "but they didn't confiscate the footage of the WTC"

no shit, how many ppl watched it on cameras? hundreds.

it was being filmed live you dumb fuck, how can you confiscate all that footage?

but the footage from the pentagon was confiscated..

there's two angles on youtube, their security footage which takes at 5 sec intervals (something like that)

and footage from a hotel or gas station

either way, it doesn't show the actual plane hitting..

but should it?

if the evidence is there, AGAIN, if the evidence is there, why ask for footage? are you seriously that stupid to put two and two together?

but but but why won't they release any other footage?

because none of the footage shows anything.. they were confiscated to study how the plane came in, yet their angles of the camera were out of range. You believe all security cameras, on store property, was all trained on the Pentagon? Remember, this is store security, so we have parking lot cameras, that either have the Pentagon nor the plane in frame... some caught the explosion, but anything more than that, nope..

the only footage that exists, that shows the impact and plane is the footage on the Pentagon security camera.. catching a plane going over 400mph, at 5 frames per sec, is a pretty impossible thing to do..

but again, let's talk about the debris on the lawn and inside the building..

what is it if it isn't an American Airlines jet?

don't dodge bruh, I haven't dodge shit from u..

 

[VIBE]

My thing is this, if we know for a fact that they flew planes into the 2 world trade center buildings, because we have it on tape and nobody really disputes that..why would they have to lie about the Pentagon?

What big deal would it be to throw another plane into the Pentagon? What sense does it make to actually fly planes into the twin towers and then go ahead and fake a plane going into the Pentagon?

@blackamerica‌

@xxCivicxx‌

Because Pentagon supposedly guards the area around it very seriously and it took a high level of piloting precision for the Pentagon to be hit like it was. Some people are saying that the plane may have hit the ground first and rollled into the building but then there would be no way that it could have been disintegrated

And again, no one has answered why there's no actual amateur footage of the impact when it's a fact that amateur footage was recorded

But that doesn't answer the motive of faking it though when they actually did it without dispute at the world trade center.

Why would they fly two planes into the world trade center and then say fuck it with the pentagon and just fire a missile and then go to the scene and sprinkle burned plane parts. If the pentagon is such a hard target to hit the government could of attacked another target.

Just to be clear, I think something smells with 9/11 but I don't think whether or not a plane hit the pentagon or not is the thing that should be disputed.

Looking at it objectively it would be a lot harder to hit the pentagon than two of the largest buildings in NY.

The window for error is a lot smaller. You would be a lot more accurate with a missile than a 757 going 500mph.

Whoever flew that plane would have to be an expert to know when to descend. If not they could've easily missed. At that rate you have no control. It's just in a downward spiral.

You would think the plane would've hit the top of the building rather than the side. Come to think of it why wouldn't they do that? Way more damage could've been done flying the plane into the center of the Pentagon.

That side of the building randomly had way less than the normal amount of working staff inside of it the day of the attack. The goal wasn't to destroy the Pentagon or any important data within, it was just to scare americans into giving up more rights and circumvent the constitution-established channels of starting a war

The side that was hit was also up for renovation. How convenient.

From what, though. Do you know?

 

[xxCivicxx]

First of all you didn't answer any of the questions I asked in the first part of this thread so please stop saying you haven't been dodging. As a matter of fact the only thing you haven't dodged is the Pentagon question like it somehow negates everything else everyone else posted. The plane was being recorded by VIDEO CAMERAS yet we only see still frames like it's 1890 but I guess that doesn't strike you as odd either but forget about the Pentagon. Respond to anything else in my posts

You still haven't even mentioned the death of bin Laden or seal team 6 and I posted about them at least twice

Or the stock fluctuations beforehand

Or the fact that at the same time on the same day of the attack there was a military drill going on that simulated a terroristic attack by plane

Or the fact that the military scrambler jets were told to stand down after the first attack even tho 1 jet could have easily prevented the second one

You didn't even respond the article I posted about the strange shit happening at the wtc at night in the 2 weeks leading up to the attack.

Clearly you are trying to devolve this convo with name calling(which is an automatic defeat in a legit debate) so I'm gonna stop posting since you apparently can't control your emotions

 

[VIBE]

Then quote your original questions and I'll answer them.

 

[VIBE]

Matter if fact, I'll find them. I can read.