So Lebron is now Granger's B*tch?

[Inglewood_B]

Dont know if ESPN is using selective stats but I don't know what to think of this. Everyone always talks about the "black mamba" and how he has ice in his veins and how Lebron is the "frozen one" because he chokes in the big moments. I guess it's all perception.

the "ice in his veins" is the willingness to take the shot. look at the attempts. lebron is so scared to even take it now.

 

[Livefromclayco]

How the fuck did this become a kobe and lebron debate??

Damn niggas dont even talk about granger in a thread thats about him

 

[Mrslim1]

Lebron is the most SKILLED player in the NBA not the BEST player in the NBA. You CANNOT be the best player when your heart is constantly question. Even if he averaged 50, 22, and 15 . I wouldnt consider him the best when he always comes up short when it matters the most

Wrong Bron has higher shooting percentage in clutch situations that Kobe does.

Its not even about making the shot . Its about the willingness to take the shot . Kobe , KD even Melo will take the shot . Lebron will shy away from the moment . Win or lose their team will be happy with that . Lebron is soft , and D Wade mother is a ex pipehead turned minister.

Again this is just not true...and again the numbers disprove this...but I'll let you hang on to your hate.

All Jokes aside . The main difference between Lebron and KD is what happened at the end of the La vs OKC game. When KD had the ball in his hand with a chance for his team to take the lead or win . KD asked for a pick and went to the rack and got a bucket . Thats what people are asking from Lebron u dont even have to make the shot just show me u the best and are not bitchmade . Take the shot , stop being scared to fail . In game 2 of the Indiana game , Lebron should have said fuck the play I am the best player in the World , I want the ball in my hand win or lose . He is scared to fail .

So you take one game for KD and one game for Lebron and base your decision on that?? And you have the nerve to say all Jokes aside?? What about this??

KD has the option to passing to another all star in Wesbrook . But he said fuck that I am that dude I am going to take this shot and if I miss yall niggas are going to live with that . And his team says ok KD . Lebron has the option to let D.Wade to take the shot and more times than not he asks D.Wade to take him off the hook , When he was in Cleveland he had NOBODY to pass 2 he played with a bunch of bums , so who was he going to pass to Moe Williams ? GTFOH . Also they lost that series and would have went down 0-2 at home if he didnt make that lucky shit . D.Fisher is more clutch than Lebron James .

LOL....I can tell the facts are getting to you now. Here's facts cocksucker

Kobe has played in 217 playoff games and has attempted 25 game winning shots and has hit an abysmal 7 of them (25%). In only 99 playoff games Bron has attempted 12 shots and made 5 (41%). So playing in almost twice as many playoff games and TWICE as many attempts as Bron....Kobe has only 2 more game winning shots.

Oh this is the awkward moment when you catch feelings and call me a Bron nuthugger right? Or is it fanboy??

Naw I am not calling names , or fakin like I you brother . So r u saying Lebron is more Clutch than Kobe ? Stats are not the whole story with Lebron . I agree is will end up maybe as a Top 5 all time skilled ever to play in the league . He is a stat stuffer . Something is missing with Lebron . Whatever that IT is that takes players to greatness he his missing it . Also Kobe has 5 rings. Lebron and the Heat are on the verge of being the biggest fail in sports history . I guess Lebron was right when he said . Not 1 , Not 2 , Not 3 , Not 4 , Not 5 , Not 6 , Not 7 etc , cause he may not get anyever

Oh so now its an "IT" factor....lol. This laughable....Stats dont tell the whole story?? Fuck outta here...you just dont like the story they tell. Stat stuffer?? Are you dense? Bron is the definition of efficiency....he DOESNT just rack up stats for stats sake.

Dog no one is saying Lebron is a bum . And yes his stats are phenomenal but is he a winner ? Can you rely on Lebron when times get tough in the clutch in a huge game . At this time the answer is no . He has time to change that but as of now stats is not the problem with Lebron but translating those greats stats to championships and clutch moment is .

Based on what exactly? His ridiculous winning percentage? Or his it his actual FACTUAL, STATISTICALLY PROVEN clutch percentage that is second only to Jordan nigga...just stop with the abstracts. Keep it factual.

Herm Edwards voice " you play to win the game " When Lebron needed to step up in situations that could have won his team championships or his lack of being a factor caused his team games , because it was obvious he was lacking effort and/or the willingness to take the game into his own hands. Thats what I am talking about with Lebron James , Fuck him being behind Jordan in that specific statistic . With all that does he have any rings to show for it ? NO . Did he go to the Heat to get help from Wade and Bosh to get a ring like a sucker ? yes . A real winner understands to REALLY win a championship yes u need a good team , but have to also want to do whatever it takes on the court and play with passion in the biggest moment to get a Championship . You heart is the deciding factor not the skill you have . And Lebron has a lack of heart and it shows in the biggest moments .

 

[dunny.]

Dont know if ESPN is using selective stats but I don't know what to think of this. Everyone always talks about the "black mamba" and how he has ice in his veins and how Lebron is the "frozen one" because he chokes in the big moments. I guess it's all perception.

Got Em,this a Soul burnin post

I dropped a similar napalm bomb in the nba thread that had em scatterin like coccroaches when the lights come on

 

[WhoisDonG???]

Stats dont mean shit did he do it against Dallas when it mattered how about missing those two freethrows to seal the game in game 2. Just face it he scared of the moment. This coming from a day 1 Lebron fan. I accept him for what he is a great player with mental flaws that keeps him from Greatness.

 

[Jdilla26]

How the fuck did this become a kobe and lebron debate??

Damn niggas dont even talk about granger in a thread thats about him

Somehow Kobe was brought up and then in turned into Lebron has no heart he isnt clutch then I saw that post and then it was like

 

[ATTS]

i dont know if pat riley has done this but what lebron needs is a psychologist/sports psychologist to work him through his fear......... it will make him admit he has a weakness and he will work on it.....

that will solve all this bullshit

 

[dc's teflondon]

most ballers these days are easily punked due to the buddy-buddy nature of the aau circuit

 

[rage]

Lebron is the most SKILLED player in the NBA not the BEST player in the NBA. You CANNOT be the best player when your heart is constantly question. Even if he averaged 50, 22, and 15 . I wouldnt consider him the best when he always comes up short when it matters the most

Wrong Bron has higher shooting percentage in clutch situations that Kobe does.

Its not even about making the shot . Its about the willingness to take the shot . Kobe , KD even Melo will take the shot . Lebron will shy away from the moment . Win or lose their team will be happy with that . Lebron is soft , and D Wade mother is a ex pipehead turned minister.

Again this is just not true...and again the numbers disprove this...but I'll let you hang on to your hate.

All Jokes aside . The main difference between Lebron and KD is what happened at the end of the La vs OKC game. When KD had the ball in his hand with a chance for his team to take the lead or win . KD asked for a pick and went to the rack and got a bucket . Thats what people are asking from Lebron u dont even have to make the shot just show me u the best and are not bitchmade . Take the shot , stop being scared to fail . In game 2 of the Indiana game , Lebron should have said fuck the play I am the best player in the World , I want the ball in my hand win or lose . He is scared to fail .

So you take one game for KD and one game for Lebron and base your decision on that?? And you have the nerve to say all Jokes aside?? What about this??

KD has the option to passing to another all star in Wesbrook . But he said fuck that I am that dude I am going to take this shot and if I miss yall niggas are going to live with that . And his team says ok KD . Lebron has the option to let D.Wade to take the shot and more times than not he asks D.Wade to take him off the hook , When he was in Cleveland he had NOBODY to pass 2 he played with a bunch of bums , so who was he going to pass to Moe Williams ? GTFOH . Also they lost that series and would have went down 0-2 at home if he didnt make that lucky shit . D.Fisher is more clutch than Lebron James .

LOL....I can tell the facts are getting to you now. Here's facts cocksucker

Kobe has played in 217 playoff games and has attempted 25 game winning shots and has hit an abysmal 7 of them (25%). In only 99 playoff games Bron has attempted 12 shots and made 5 (41%). So playing in almost twice as many playoff games and TWICE as many attempts as Bron....Kobe has only 2 more game winning shots.

Oh this is the awkward moment when you catch feelings and call me a Bron nuthugger right? Or is it fanboy??

Naw I am not calling names , or fakin like I you brother . So r u saying Lebron is more Clutch than Kobe ? Stats are not the whole story with Lebron . I agree is will end up maybe as a Top 5 all time skilled ever to play in the league . He is a stat stuffer . Something is missing with Lebron . Whatever that IT is that takes players to greatness he his missing it . Also Kobe has 5 rings. Lebron and the Heat are on the verge of being the biggest fail in sports history . I guess Lebron was right when he said . Not 1 , Not 2 , Not 3 , Not 4 , Not 5 , Not 6 , Not 7 etc , cause he may not get anyever

Oh so now its an "IT" factor....lol. This laughable....Stats dont tell the whole story?? Fuck outta here...you just dont like the story they tell. Stat stuffer?? Are you dense? Bron is the definition of efficiency....he DOESNT just rack up stats for stats sake.

Dog no one is saying Lebron is a bum . And yes his stats are phenomenal but is he a winner ? Can you rely on Lebron when times get tough in the clutch in a huge game . At this time the answer is no . He has time to change that but as of now stats is not the problem with Lebron but translating those greats stats to championships and clutch moment is .

Based on what exactly? His ridiculous winning percentage? Or his it his actual FACTUAL, STATISTICALLY PROVEN clutch percentage that is second only to Jordan nigga...just stop with the abstracts. Keep it factual.

Herm Edwards voice " you play to win the game " When Lebron needed to step up in situations that could have won his team championships or his lack of being a factor caused his team games , because it was obvious he was lacking effort and/or the willingness to take the game into his own hands. Thats what I am talking about with Lebron James , Fuck him being behind Jordan in that specific statistic . With all that does he have any rings to show for it ? NO . Did he go to the Heat to get help from Wade and Bosh to get a ring like a sucker ? yes . A real winner understands to REALLY win a championship yes u need a good team , but have to also want to do whatever it takes on the court and play with passion in the biggest moment to get a Championship . You heart is the deciding factor not the skill you have . And Lebron has a lack of heart and it shows in the biggest moments .

Nigga I am done with your horseshit. All you do is bring up anecdotal evidence, no actual stats or facts. You want to talk about collapses?? Where THE FUCK WAS KOBE when the Lakers were thrown out the playoffs by the Suns...fucking chucker had 2 POINTS in entire half of basketball in an elimination game. So get the fuck out of here acting like Bron is the only nigga to ever struggle to get over the hump. Bron took his destiny into his hands and choose the players and team he wanted to play for. When Shaq retired and Kobe was left on the Lakers...they were PATHETIC....he BITCHED, CRIED AND MOANED LIKE A BITCH demanding a trade. So they went out and got Gasol. Your such a fucking hypocrite its disgusting.

 

[rage]

Stats dont mean shit did he do it against Dallas when it mattered how about missing those two freethrows to seal the game in game 2. Just face it he scared of the moment. This coming from a day 1 Lebron fan. I accept him for what he is a great player with mental flaws that keeps him from Greatness.

Yes why would actual facts matter?? Dumb as shit some niggas....

Dont know if ESPN is using selective stats but I don't know what to think of this. Everyone always talks about the "black mamba" and how he has ice in his veins and how Lebron is the "frozen one" because he chokes in the big moments. I guess it's all perception.

the "ice in his veins" is the willingness to take the shot. look at the attempts. lebron is so scared to even take it now.

LMAO @ "ice in his veins"....Kobe has played in twice as many playoff games as Lebron...of course he is going to have more attempts. And this again proves what a fucking useless chucker this dude is...even the GOAT in his entire career wasnt throwing up so many dumb shots.

 

[MR.CJ]

Dont know if ESPN is using selective stats but I don't know what to think of this. Everyone always talks about the "black mamba" and how he has ice in his veins and how Lebron is the "frozen one" because he chokes in the big moments. I guess it's all perception.

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[Mrslim1]

Lebron is the most SKILLED player in the NBA not the BEST player in the NBA. You CANNOT be the best player when your heart is constantly question. Even if he averaged 50, 22, and 15 . I wouldnt consider him the best when he always comes up short when it matters the most

Wrong Bron has higher shooting percentage in clutch situations that Kobe does.

Its not even about making the shot . Its about the willingness to take the shot . Kobe , KD even Melo will take the shot . Lebron will shy away from the moment . Win or lose their team will be happy with that . Lebron is soft , and D Wade mother is a ex pipehead turned minister.

Again this is just not true...and again the numbers disprove this...but I'll let you hang on to your hate.

All Jokes aside . The main difference between Lebron and KD is what happened at the end of the La vs OKC game. When KD had the ball in his hand with a chance for his team to take the lead or win . KD asked for a pick and went to the rack and got a bucket . Thats what people are asking from Lebron u dont even have to make the shot just show me u the best and are not bitchmade . Take the shot , stop being scared to fail . In game 2 of the Indiana game , Lebron should have said fuck the play I am the best player in the World , I want the ball in my hand win or lose . He is scared to fail .

So you take one game for KD and one game for Lebron and base your decision on that?? And you have the nerve to say all Jokes aside?? What about this??

KD has the option to passing to another all star in Wesbrook . But he said fuck that I am that dude I am going to take this shot and if I miss yall niggas are going to live with that . And his team says ok KD . Lebron has the option to let D.Wade to take the shot and more times than not he asks D.Wade to take him off the hook , When he was in Cleveland he had NOBODY to pass 2 he played with a bunch of bums , so who was he going to pass to Moe Williams ? GTFOH . Also they lost that series and would have went down 0-2 at home if he didnt make that lucky shit . D.Fisher is more clutch than Lebron James .

LOL....I can tell the facts are getting to you now. Here's facts cocksucker

Kobe has played in 217 playoff games and has attempted 25 game winning shots and has hit an abysmal 7 of them (25%). In only 99 playoff games Bron has attempted 12 shots and made 5 (41%). So playing in almost twice as many playoff games and TWICE as many attempts as Bron....Kobe has only 2 more game winning shots.

Oh this is the awkward moment when you catch feelings and call me a Bron nuthugger right? Or is it fanboy??

Naw I am not calling names , or fakin like I you brother . So r u saying Lebron is more Clutch than Kobe ? Stats are not the whole story with Lebron . I agree is will end up maybe as a Top 5 all time skilled ever to play in the league . He is a stat stuffer . Something is missing with Lebron . Whatever that IT is that takes players to greatness he his missing it . Also Kobe has 5 rings. Lebron and the Heat are on the verge of being the biggest fail in sports history . I guess Lebron was right when he said . Not 1 , Not 2 , Not 3 , Not 4 , Not 5 , Not 6 , Not 7 etc , cause he may not get anyever

Oh so now its an "IT" factor....lol. This laughable....Stats dont tell the whole story?? Fuck outta here...you just dont like the story they tell. Stat stuffer?? Are you dense? Bron is the definition of efficiency....he DOESNT just rack up stats for stats sake.

Dog no one is saying Lebron is a bum . And yes his stats are phenomenal but is he a winner ? Can you rely on Lebron when times get tough in the clutch in a huge game . At this time the answer is no . He has time to change that but as of now stats is not the problem with Lebron but translating those greats stats to championships and clutch moment is .

Based on what exactly? His ridiculous winning percentage? Or his it his actual FACTUAL, STATISTICALLY PROVEN clutch percentage that is second only to Jordan nigga...just stop with the abstracts. Keep it factual.

Herm Edwards voice " you play to win the game " When Lebron needed to step up in situations that could have won his team championships or his lack of being a factor caused his team games , because it was obvious he was lacking effort and/or the willingness to take the game into his own hands. Thats what I am talking about with Lebron James , Fuck him being behind Jordan in that specific statistic . With all that does he have any rings to show for it ? NO . Did he go to the Heat to get help from Wade and Bosh to get a ring like a sucker ? yes . A real winner understands to REALLY win a championship yes u need a good team , but have to also want to do whatever it takes on the court and play with passion in the biggest moment to get a Championship . You heart is the deciding factor not the skill you have . And Lebron has a lack of heart and it shows in the biggest moments .

Nigga I am done with your horseshit. All you do is bring up anecdotal evidence, no actual stats or facts. You want to talk about collapses?? Where THE FUCK WAS KOBE when the Lakers were thrown out the playoffs by the Suns...fucking chucker had 2 POINTS in entire half of basketball in an elimination game. So get the fuck out of here acting like Bron is the only nigga to ever struggle to get over the hump. Bron took his destiny into his hands and choose the players and team he wanted to play for. When Shaq retired and Kobe was left on the Lakers...they were PATHETIC....he BITCHED, CRIED AND MOANED LIKE A BITCH demanding a trade. So they went out and got Gasol. Your such a fucking hypocrite its disgusting.

Lebron is not clutch no matter what u say brother . He shrinks in big moments . All time Great when it come to skills , but it takes more than skill to win titles and Lebron just doesnt have it .

 

[jay83]

Lebron needs to just take the hollywood hogan role and accept it. He still tryna get the crowd on his side.

 

[jay83]

If granger really wanted to mess with lebron he would have slapped that headband off. Lol.

 

[Cutler 26 INT's LOL!]

Dont know if ESPN is using selective stats but I don't know what to think of this. Everyone always talks about the "black mamba" and how he has ice in his veins and how Lebron is the "frozen one" because he chokes in the big moments. I guess it's all perception.

Damn...where the Kobe Kids at??

 

[VulcanRaven]

Dont know if ESPN is using selective stats but I don't know what to think of this. Everyone always talks about the "black mamba" and how he has ice in his veins and how Lebron is the "frozen one" because he chokes in the big moments. I guess it's all perception.

Got Em,this a Soul burnin post

I dropped a similar napalm bomb in the nba thread that had em scatterin like coccroaches when the lights come on

Soul burning post? Who has 5 rings and has stepped up to deliver in the clutch and who has dissapeared in the 4th qtr?

 

[VulcanRaven]

Stats dont mean shit did he do it against Dallas when it mattered how about missing those two freethrows to seal the game in game 2. Just face it he scared of the moment. This coming from a day 1 Lebron fan. I accept him for what he is a great player with mental flaws that keeps him from Greatness.

Yes why would actual facts matter?? Dumb as shit some niggas....

Dont know if ESPN is using selective stats but I don't know what to think of this. Everyone always talks about the "black mamba" and how he has ice in his veins and how Lebron is the "frozen one" because he chokes in the big moments. I guess it's all perception.

the "ice in his veins" is the willingness to take the shot. look at the attempts. lebron is so scared to even take it now.

LMAO @ "ice in his veins"....Kobe has played in twice as many playoff games as Lebron...of course he is going to have more attempts. And this again proves what a fucking useless chucker this dude is...even the GOAT in his entire career wasnt throwing up so many dumb shots.

No type of logic in your post.bron always dissapears when it counts and that is the only thing that matters.even mello went out swinging in the 4th qtr.bron groupies need to let his sack go already.

 

[VulcanRaven]

Some of y'all clearly don't understand grown man business

1. It's the playoffs. LeBron James is the best player on his team, wtf is he supposed to do, get kicked off just to prove he's a real nigga?

2. LeBron James is the best player in the NBA, of course he's going to have haters. Everyone I know who has met him says dude is mad humble and down to earth, what reason do these players have for going after him? None of those niggas are on his level and they know it.

3. The nigga who was doing the choking sign needs to be slapped. Who the fuck is he? Why is that nigga RIDING THE BENCH and making choking signs at the best player in the NBA? I'd understand if he was worth shit, but why is a peasant even stepping to LeBron?

This shit is confounding as fuck. Hate him or love him, it's stupid as fuck to expect LeBron to retaliate in an NBA game. This isn't hockey

You faggots kill me with this hate shit.no one is hating on the choker.facts are facts and the boy is soft.

 

[southsil4lil]

Its just funny how Danny Granger ran up on lebron with his hands up with the classic nigga "do that shit again, and Ima smack the shit out you" gesture

 

[tierra5690]

Dont know if ESPN is using selective stats but I don't know what to think of this. Everyone always talks about the "black mamba" and how he has ice in his veins and how Lebron is the "frozen one" because he chokes in the big moments. I guess it's all perception.

Kobe Finals appearances since 2007 = 3................... Kobe rings since 2007= 2....... Finals MVP's since 2007 = 2...... ALL Equal