So It Wasn't Ole Girl's Fault That Brock Turner Took That Ass When She Passed Out Drunk By Dumpster

[not_osirus_jenkins]

The fact that there are police and a legal system attests to the fact that: no we cannot control ourselves and not hurt each other in* some form or fashion.

So its human nature to harm others? Why don't most men rape then?

Yes it is. Harm does not mean rape specifically, or physically for that matter. Harming the psyche can be as bad as rape.

 

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[BiblicalAtheist]

Constructive criticism on rape and domestic violence.... never thought the day

I'm as hoh as any nigga up here but this shit dont fly. The amount of alcohol one consumes should not justify or invite any action that is unwarranted and unwanted. Matter of fact any nigga that needs liquor and or drugs to loosen a woman's legs is a lame ass boy that needs to stay home.

And to the women in here, you have to admit rape and or sexual assault/domestic violence has become a weapon for women. Not saying ALL women do it but it's enough to where people will glance over it or disregard it initially. Is it right absolutely not, but we all know the story of the boy who cried wolf

Of course it shouldn't be justified or invite unwarranted actions against them, but the people committing these crimes obviously do not care about that one iota. So then what do we do? Educate everybody else who isn't like that how to protect themselves.

 

[Westie]

When isn't a rape a woman's fault to some of yall? I'll give you real life 3 instances from people I know:

1 woman walking home at night, a man with a knife jumps from the bushes, holds a knife to her throat and rapes her. She was walking home alone at night. Her fault?

1 girl goes home with a guy she was seeing. She was 16, he was in his 20s. He gave her alcohol, she was going to sleep with him. When she asked him to get a condom, he forced himself in her raw, held her down and raped her. Held a gun to her and told her he'd kill her if she said anything. She went home with a grown man. Her fault right?

1 woman had her house broken into by an ex she had recently broken up with. He came in through a window while she was sleep and raped her. Her fault for breaking up with him?

Only the second one could have REASONABLY been prevented.

So its the victims fault the rapist wouldn't use a condom and forced themself in her?

What's his fault as a 20something man? With a 16 year old?

Often multiple people did something wrong for something wrong to happen involving multiple people.

These chicks aint disney princesses, and continuing to pretend they are is only going to get more women hurt playing with these animals.

So he's not at fault for the rape? She is?

Im not defending the rapist. Just saying something could be learned from studying the victims that could further prevent future rape stories of this sort; where its involving young people and drugs/alchohol.

Women are already taught these things. Your parents taught you not to rob or steal right? We know right from wrong and someone is always telling a girl how to be un-raped. It is not productive or helpful. How about we ALSO focus on rape being a fucked up thing to do, instead of shitting all over the person who was just violated every single fucking time???

Did you not read your own post? The people that commit crimes were taught it was wrong by their parents as well, still, they partake.

Trying to get through to them is a waste of time. Time that would be better invested in protecting those that could be future victims.

Speaking in context of course (young people getting drunk/high and losing control of their situation)

You should always say things to protect your daughters, but you really always can't... The thing is those preventions don't always work. I have given four examples of very true stories of rape in this thread only one of them had anything to do with going home with someone and had alcohol involved in it. The man even could have had sex with the woman. He still chose to rape her and put a gun to her.

Of course there are cases where the rapist is just a sick person but there are also those who are raised in a culture that treats women as objects (we all are). Some who may have a screw or two loose take that to mean that women's bodies are Theirs to do with whatever they please. Not all young men are taught they are not. There is almost no Focus on telling young men these things. The focus is always on the girl being a good doobie or the rapist boogie man will get you when these rapist by in large are regular men who have control issues and are taught that women are below human. That thought process is rampant on this board. Not Most of the men on here, let me make that clear, but there are a few of them.

Also, it's fine to have these conversations with your daughter if you have one, or female family members, or if you want to take the Community Action route and make a support group for young women and have these conversations, fine. But as a whole, when we're talking about a victim who has been raped, and you are pointing the finger back at her, who does that help?

 

[blacktux]

Something tells me these fellas would understand why its wrong to act like you are entitled to every female once their pissed off male protoector is anger drooling into their eyeball as they are being choked to death and the tiny bones in their necks begin to give way from being strangulated.

"Tsk... Oh i get it nooow."

I dont believe there has been thread involving rape on this forum where the type of rape you discribed is being discussed.

Its always some chick being inebriated and taken advantage of...

Personal accountability has to be discussed.

Holup....

So... The honor system works everywhere except for when its a drunk chick?

How?

So your answer is, the retail stores shouldnt have clothes on the rack?

Funny how we as men can understand cause and effect, action & reaction...until pussy enter the picture.

Dont understand your post at all.

Most retail stores have cameras throughout the store, as well as active security personnel that walk the store.

Why? Because people steal. And telling them continually that stealing is "bad" or "wrong" is not going to stop it from happening.

Have you looked up from your mobile device lately?

You're constantly being recorded be it retail, gas station, bank or government related.

Just cause the female passed out behind a dumpster dont mean there are no cameras.

You are looking for excuses to behave like an uncivilized man.

Just because someone has a moment of weakness that does not mean they give up their rights and freedoms as an American.

The shit aint rocket science, it's consensual sex vs noncensual.

Say you passed out drunk around your homeboys and they decide to shove an eggplant up your butt... Hey fairplay, right?

Your logic.

Yea my logic. If i pass out around people i have to deal with the consequences of that. If there was a known trend of "homies" sticking eggplants up mens asses i damn sure wouldnt be passed out around the "homies"

The law or any man made rule can only help me AFTER the act.

Its my responsibility to do all i can to not wake up with an eggplant up my butt.

Nh.

 

[blacktux]

just sticking to the story here.

A person was passed out by a dumpster, to no fault of their own.

Well ill be got dayumed.....

 

[Westie]

The fact that there are police and a legal system attests to the fact that: no we cannot control ourselves and not hurt each other in* some form or fashion.

So its human nature to harm others? Why don't most men rape then?

Yes it is. Harm does not mean rape specifically, or physically for that matter. Harming the psyche can be as bad as rape.

So most men want to rape then is that what you're saying it's in a man's nature to rape? Because that's what this thread is pertaining to.

 

[gns]

You muthafuckers love playing dumb

So you nosigned a woman with dementia getting raped being untrue or that rapists are sick?

Nope

I'd like to be able to leave my doors unlocked but unfortunately there are people out there who will take my stuff when I'm not home. So because I know they cannot help themselves, for whatever reason they have, I have to lock my stuff up.

A lock doesn't always stop a thief from breaking into someones home and taking their stuff.

But they do keep " honest" people honest

So you saying you would rape a unconscious girl cause she left the door open?

No you're trying to say that. I'm saying protect what you value. You don't want people in your house, as a minimum lock your door. You want to minimize your chances of being assaulted, travel in groups, don't drink until you're barely conscious, get to know someone before you jump in their car.

Bruh, you said it keeps honest people honest. No honest person would take advantage of an unconscious girl no matter how much of a dumb ass she is.

It's a cliche bruh. I suspect you knew that but just wanna play semantics.

Ain't nothing semantic about rape bruh, no matter the situation. You basically saying put up barriers of prevention, but fuck all that, no matter the situation, rape is rape. At least when it can be proven.

Now you're doing too much. I don't even know what your argument is. I was very careful in using the word assault as opposed to rape. Ways to minimize chances of being assaulted are to put of barriers of resistance. It will not prevent assault, but perhaps make a person look less of a victim to predators.

Wtf does a victim look like?

So when an old woman in a nursing home with dementia is raped, what should she do for prevention? People do horrible things to all types of people, not all rapists have a dress code.

Do me a favor. Miss me with the bullshit scenarios. My statement was about minimizing risks. You say yourself "people do horrible things to all types of people " so how can you question me saying protect yourself?

That's an actual true scenario. Not only drunk chicks get raped. The point is, rapists are sick. It's not about how you look.

I no signed the bolded.

Rape of course is purely the rapists fault

Its not victim blaming to tell women to b careful and mindful

being beyond drunk passed out god knows where is NOT being careful and mindful

But just like u trying to say i ns'd u because of the reasons listed

U people in here are going to pick and choose out of the common sense that is being preached to yall, find an extreme and run with it.

Thats why im clicking reactions and not arguing with your dumbasses because plenty of people are making good enough posts already u fuckers just like to argue and play dumb.

Again.

RAPE IS THE RAPISTS FAULT

and no one is saying any different

 

[Westie]

You muthafuckers love playing dumb

So you nosigned a woman with dementia getting raped being untrue or that rapists are sick?

Nope

I'd like to be able to leave my doors unlocked but unfortunately there are people out there who will take my stuff when I'm not home. So because I know they cannot help themselves, for whatever reason they have, I have to lock my stuff up.

A lock doesn't always stop a thief from breaking into someones home and taking their stuff.

But they do keep " honest" people honest

So you saying you would rape a unconscious girl cause she left the door open?

No you're trying to say that. I'm saying protect what you value. You don't want people in your house, as a minimum lock your door. You want to minimize your chances of being assaulted, travel in groups, don't drink until you're barely conscious, get to know someone before you jump in their car.

Bruh, you said it keeps honest people honest. No honest person would take advantage of an unconscious girl no matter how much of a dumb ass she is.

It's a cliche bruh. I suspect you knew that but just wanna play semantics.

Ain't nothing semantic about rape bruh, no matter the situation. You basically saying put up barriers of prevention, but fuck all that, no matter the situation, rape is rape. At least when it can be proven.

Now you're doing too much. I don't even know what your argument is. I was very careful in using the word assault as opposed to rape. Ways to minimize chances of being assaulted are to put of barriers of resistance. It will not prevent assault, but perhaps make a person look less of a victim to predators.

Wtf does a victim look like?

So when an old woman in a nursing home with dementia is raped, what should she do for prevention? People do horrible things to all types of people, not all rapists have a dress code.

Do me a favor. Miss me with the bullshit scenarios. My statement was about minimizing risks. You say yourself "people do horrible things to all types of people " so how can you question me saying protect yourself?

That's an actual true scenario. Not only drunk chicks get raped. The point is, rapists are sick. It's not about how you look.

I no signed the bolded.

Rape of course is purely the rapists fault

Its not victim blaming to tell women to b careful and mindful

being beyond drunk passed out god knows where is NOT being careful and mindful

But just like u trying to say i ns'd u because of the reasons listed

U people in here are going to pick and choose out of the common sense that is being preached to yall, find an extreme and run with it.

Thats why im clicking reactions and not arguing with your dumbasses because plenty of people are making good enough posts already u fuckers just like to argue and play dumb.

Again.

RAPE IS THE RAPISTS FAULT

and no one is saying any different

As I've said 35x women are told to be careful and mindful, that being said people fuck up. So your point is you're more likely to get raped if you dress trampy? Is that what you think?

 

[not_osirus_jenkins]

Constructive criticism on rape and domestic violence.... never thought the day

I'm as hoh as any nigga up here but this shit dont fly. The amount of alcohol one consumes should not justify or invite any action that is unwarranted and unwanted. Matter of fact any nigga that needs liquor and or drugs to loosen a woman's legs is a lame ass boy that needs to stay home.

And to the women in here, you have to admit rape and or sexual assault/domestic violence has become a weapon for women. Not saying ALL women do it but it's enough to where people will glance over it or disregard it initially. Is it right absolutely not, but we all know the story of the boy who cried wolf

Of course it shouldn't be justified or invite unwarranted actions against them, but the people committing these crimes obviously do not care about that one iota. So then what do we do? Educate everybody else who isn't like that how to protect themselves.

I agree. We teach children how to avoid strangers because of the possibility of kidnapping, touching, pedophilia.

We teach young black men how to interact with police so they don't get shot, unlawfully arrested etc

We teach the elderly to be vigilant to lessen the chances of theft, misrepresentation, being taking advantage of, etc

I don't see why we can't 'teach' women to avoid the same pitfalls that any human can experience and become a victim.

 

[Will Munny]

Would anyone here actually reccomend to their young and/or teenage daughters NOT to walk home alone in a strange part of town?

 

[blacktux]

Constructive criticism on rape and domestic violence.... never thought the day

I'm as hoh as any nigga up here but this shit dont fly. The amount of alcohol one consumes should not justify or invite any action that is unwarranted and unwanted. Matter of fact any nigga that needs liquor and or drugs to loosen a woman's legs is a lame ass boy that needs to stay home.

And to the women in here, you have to admit rape and or sexual assault/domestic violence has become a weapon for women. Not saying ALL women do it but it's enough to where people will glance over it or disregard it initially. Is it right absolutely not, but we all know the story of the boy who cried wolf

Of course it shouldn't be justified or invite unwarranted actions against them, but the people committing these crimes obviously do not care about that one iota. So then what do we do? Educate everybody else who isn't like that how to protect themselves.

I agree. We teach children how to avoid strangers because of the possibility of kidnapping, touching, pedophilia.

We teach young black men how to interact with police so they don't get shot, unlawfully arrested etc

We teach the elderly to be vigilant to lessen the chances of theft, misrepresentation, being taking advantage of, etc

I don't see why we can't 'teach' women to avoid the same pitfalls that any human can experience and become a victim.

you would think this shit is written in a foreign language...

 

[not_osirus_jenkins]

The fact that there are police and a legal system attests to the fact that: no we cannot control ourselves and not hurt each other in* some form or fashion.

So its human nature to harm others? Why don't most men rape then?

Yes it is. Harm does not mean rape specifically, or physically for that matter. Harming the psyche can be as bad as rape.

So most men want to rape then is that what you're saying it's in a man's nature to rape? Because that's what this thread is pertaining to.

Just because that is what this thread is pertaining too doesn't mean that's what I said. I said it's in our nature to harm. Please don't put words in my mouth. You don't like, why would you think others do @westie

 

[Westie]

The fact that there are police and a legal system attests to the fact that: no we cannot control ourselves and not hurt each other in* some form or fashion.

So its human nature to harm others? Why don't most men rape then?

Yes it is. Harm does not mean rape specifically, or physically for that matter. Harming the psyche can be as bad as rape.

So most men want to rape then is that what you're saying it's in a man's nature to rape? Because that's what this thread is pertaining to.

Just because that is what this thread is pertaining too doesn't mean that's what I said. I said it's in our nature to harm. Please don't put words in my mouth. You don't like, why would you think others do @westie

I didn't put words in your mouth, I asked you. My question was pertaining to rape that's what I was referring to. The question you replied to, so that's why I asked, for clarification that's all.

 

[not_osirus_jenkins]

All in all I think women should be vigilant. The same way black men are when it comes to pigs, and children are when it comes to strangers and old people when it comes to people that'll take advantage of them. Keep your heads on the swivel.

 

[CapitalB]

i mean its not her fault she got hit by a car.. i mean she didnt look both ways before jumpin into the street but drivers know pedestrians have the right of way...

 

[gns]

You muthafuckers love playing dumb

So you nosigned a woman with dementia getting raped being untrue or that rapists are sick?

Nope

I'd like to be able to leave my doors unlocked but unfortunately there are people out there who will take my stuff when I'm not home. So because I know they cannot help themselves, for whatever reason they have, I have to lock my stuff up.

A lock doesn't always stop a thief from breaking into someones home and taking their stuff.

But they do keep " honest" people honest

So you saying you would rape a unconscious girl cause she left the door open?

No you're trying to say that. I'm saying protect what you value. You don't want people in your house, as a minimum lock your door. You want to minimize your chances of being assaulted, travel in groups, don't drink until you're barely conscious, get to know someone before you jump in their car.

Bruh, you said it keeps honest people honest. No honest person would take advantage of an unconscious girl no matter how much of a dumb ass she is.

It's a cliche bruh. I suspect you knew that but just wanna play semantics.

Ain't nothing semantic about rape bruh, no matter the situation. You basically saying put up barriers of prevention, but fuck all that, no matter the situation, rape is rape. At least when it can be proven.

Now you're doing too much. I don't even know what your argument is. I was very careful in using the word assault as opposed to rape. Ways to minimize chances of being assaulted are to put of barriers of resistance. It will not prevent assault, but perhaps make a person look less of a victim to predators.

Wtf does a victim look like?

So when an old woman in a nursing home with dementia is raped, what should she do for prevention? People do horrible things to all types of people, not all rapists have a dress code.

Do me a favor. Miss me with the bullshit scenarios. My statement was about minimizing risks. You say yourself "people do horrible things to all types of people " so how can you question me saying protect yourself?

That's an actual true scenario. Not only drunk chicks get raped. The point is, rapists are sick. It's not about how you look.

I no signed the bolded.

Rape of course is purely the rapists fault

Its not victim blaming to tell women to b careful and mindful

being beyond drunk passed out god knows where is NOT being careful and mindful

But just like u trying to say i ns'd u because of the reasons listed

U people in here are going to pick and choose out of the common sense that is being preached to yall, find an extreme and run with it.

Thats why im clicking reactions and not arguing with your dumbasses because plenty of people are making good enough posts already u fuckers just like to argue and play dumb.

Again.

RAPE IS THE RAPISTS FAULT

and no one is saying any different

As I've said 35x women are told to be careful and mindful, that being said people fuck up. So your point is you're more likely to get raped if you dress trampy? Is that what you think?

My point is u and other people like to argue, ignore common sense, pick and choose extremes(note the bolded) and prolong this discussion .

The fact that there are police and a legal system attests to the fact that: no we cannot control ourselves and not hurt each other in* some form or fashion.

So its human nature to harm others? Why don't most men rape then?

Yes it is. Harm does not mean rape specifically, or physically for that matter. Harming the psyche can be as bad as rape.

So most men want to rape then is that what you're saying it's in a man's nature to rape? Because that's what this thread is pertaining to.

Just because that is what this thread is pertaining too doesn't mean that's what I said. I said it's in our nature to harm. Please don't put words in my mouth. You don't like, why would you think others do @westie

I didn't put words in your mouth.

As u can see u r not just doing it to me ^^^

Y the hell would I argue with u dumbasses if yall keep going in circles and debating like fox news?!

Foh

 

[Will Munny]

Does anyone think that getting so drunk you pass out might not be safe?

 

[Westie]

All in all I think women should be vigilant. The same way black men are when it comes to pigs, and children are when it comes to strangers and old people when it comes to people that'll take advantage of them. Keep your heads on the swivel.

I agree with that but it's still fucked up when any Injustice happens to anyone. You mentioned black men getting shot by cops. Is it okay for Fox News to point out how he shouldn't have been arguing with the cops? I thought as a people we get mad when things like that happen but it's okay to do to women?

 

[deadeye]

If you gotta ask yourself how to blame a chick for getting raped unconscious behind a dumpster in an alley... you might be trying too hard to be a piece of shit.

Nobody's blaming her for getting raped though.

Just stating that there were precautions she could've taken that would've prevented that from happening.