So certain females are mad @ Jesse Williams for divorcing his wife & then supposedly upgrading to...

[Kwan Dai]

so I had this arguement with my pops about this yesterday at work... He told us what's up with this dude he is so pro black but now he leaves his wife for a white chick so fuck him....

Am like so being pro black means you cannot practice intermarriage? What does him being pro black have to do with his personal life and or conjugal relationship?

I told him is bizarre. My pops (stepfather) is black and my Mom Hispanic. This man is very pro black but he married my Moms and had my little sister. Trust me when I say this is the best thing that could have happened to our family my moms is happy we have a great relationship they gave us our little sister I mean I could go on. So yesterday he told me this it baffles me I mean I gotta be missing something here yo I see nothing wrong with Jesse change of wife, that's a. Issue he has outside of his movement imo

There are Black Hispanics though. I don't know of any Black Whites. Not sure how your pops situation is the same.

Well my pops is Haitian and you probably know the history of Haiti and how proud a black people this is and let me tell you Haitian folks are true warriors when it comes to this but women or men it don't matter when you love some one looks and ethnicity goes out the window.

And as far as Black Hispanics look at the situation in DR for instance you got black men and women who want nothing to do with black period and as crazy as it sounds they are totally ignorant to pro black and or pro white pro Hispanic all of that...

Then again all through Latin America and throughout history you also had pro black activists,musicians athletes and so forth and so on who have intermarried.

There are many ignorant Blacks in the states that don't identify with their Blackness aka African Ancestry so the DR and Latin America as a whole isn't unique in that regard. I don't view Blacks that marry Blacks of a different nationality as intermarriage. If, you are saying your mom is a white Hispanic then I agree with your term of "intermarriage".

 

[Crude_]

IMO, the foundation of the outrage is far more superficial. It's not truly about a black man leaving a black woman for a white one. This issue was that many of these women were infatuated with this guy and saw his "average" looking wife and thought that they had a shot. Many women (and men) who claim to be "woke" subconsciously put a premium on whiteness, the closer to white the more attractive you are.

So you have this biracial black dude who made a pretty notable speech condemning systematic racism, with a average, everyday looking black women by his side and suddenly he's extremely popular. Furthermore, because he's "woke" and his wife looks like the way she does, there's no way he date a white woman, simply no way.

Now this guy leaves, and the wake up call was answered and all those women who put him up on a pedestal are pissed, not because they want to save the black family. Its because their "crush" don't like "plain jane" black women anymore...

Quoted for emphasis.

One of the better breakdowns I've ever seen here.

 

[Copper]

"Simply bc you're an animal acitivist doesnt mean you can't wear fur"

 

[Copper]

On the other hand OB the same one who has no problems with her scamming philandering old ass pastor.

She also meets white dudes off of POF

 

[AP21]

On the other hand OB the same one who has no problems with her scamming philandering old ass pastor.

She also meets white dudes off of POF

i wasnt gon say anything but...

@obnoxiouslyfresh...bring dat azzzz here guhl

 

[Kwan Dai]

IMO, the foundation of the outrage is far more superficial. It's not truly about a black man leaving a black woman for a white one. This issue was that many of these women were infatuated with this guy and saw his "average" looking wife and thought that they had a shot. Many women (and men) who claim to be "woke" subconsciously put a premium on whiteness, the closer to white the more attractive you are.

So you have this biracial black dude who made a pretty notable speech condemning systematic racism, with a average, everyday looking black women by his side and suddenly he's extremely popular. Furthermore, because he's "woke" and his wife looks like the way she does, there's no way he date a white woman, simply no way.

Now this guy leaves, and the wake up call was answered and all those women who put him up on a pedestal are pissed, not because they want to save the black family. Its because their "crush" don't like "plain jane" black women anymore...

Quoted for emphasis.

One of the better breakdowns I've ever seen here.

I disagree. What this person is saying is, Black women are superficial.

Black women and Black men are actually educated and experienced enough to know that the "premise" of Jesse's speech was factual therefore they agreed. FOH with this Black women were just starstruck so they went blindly along. It's a slap in the face and demeaning.

 

[Recaptimus_Prime360]

People divorce everyday b...no fuccs given.

 

[obnoxiouslyfresh]

On the other hand OB the same one who has no problems with her scamming philandering old ass pastor.

She also meets white dudes off of POF

I didn't say I didnt have a problem with it. I said I wasn't leaving my church.

I haven't met any white dudes from POF. I've never been on POF in my life. It was one white man and it was OkCupid.

 

[jetlifebih]

On the other hand OB the same one who has no problems with her scamming philandering old ass pastor.

She also meets white dudes off of POF

I didn't say I didnt have a problem with it. I said I wasn't leaving my church.

I haven't met any white dudes from POF. I've never been on POF in my life. It was one white man and it was OkCupid.

It was one too many obwilliams

 

[AP21]

On the other hand OB the same one who has no problems with her scamming philandering old ass pastor.

She also meets white dudes off of POF

I didn't say I didnt have a problem with it. I said I wasn't leaving my church.

I haven't met any white dudes from POF. I've never been on POF in my life. It was one white man and it was OkCupid.

this shit sad af OB

 

[jono]

I don't really want to get into the muck and mire of all this but I do want to make a few statements.

1: His ex wife is not ugly. I don't know why this is somehow the narrative to run with.

2: Even if she was ugly (or your opinion is that she's ugly) what makes a person isn't on the outside anyway. The looks and the body are the first thing to go with age. You marry someone you're in for the long haul. At some point you gotta grow up and get over the looks.

3: If you consider yourself pro-black, you should have a black family. I'm not going to knock the nigga for dating a white woman though, because he knows her better than I do and she might be a dope ass white woman.

4: The chief issue I have with this is the concept that dude is "upgrading" to a white woman. This furthers the stereotype that white women are cultural trophies for niggas.

5: The white woman is actress. Any kind of beauty she has is manufactured by having personal trainers, make up artists and hairdressers making sure she's on point for these glamor shots y'all keep posting. If his wife was an actress and had access to all that assistance y'all probably wouldn't be calling her unattractive.

6: We don't know dude and his wife's relationship. Black or white when things get toxic or bad for you then its time to bounce. Also the nigga not obligated to date sisters. It should be preferred but he's not obligated.

I think you make very valid points but on #3: it says

"If you consider yourself pro-black, you should have a Black family.

Then it says at #6: " Also the nigga not obligated to Date sisters. IT SHOULD BE PREFERRED but he is not obligated".

Now am not trying to mock what you wrote or anything like that like I said you have valid points there.

My question is: if you consider your self pro-black, you are required to have a black family. WHY? Whose rules are these and again WHY?

I don't understand.

I'm multiracial and have a lot of black siblings.

I love the mixture in my blood I love my family I consider myself pro black and pro Hispanic matter fact I am pro-justice period. My wife is Hispanic and I've never dated a black woman. I've been attracted to many but never had the experience. That does not mean that in the future things don't work out between me and my wife and I happen to marry a black woman that I'm no longer pro Hispanic or what not. NO it's absurd. I've tried my chances with a beautiful black woman who happened to have been already in a relationship and she is faithful to her man who I didn't know at the time she was already dating. I mean the situation for this guy can be so broad I don't understand what is the big deal. Not you @jono am just saying in general

If it were a pro black woman who left her black male s/o

For a white man well shit so be it. Why should it take away anything from them. You Love who you love and that's that.

I don't see the point in going on and on about being pro-black and trumpeting the black family while at the same time sleeping with and sharing your assets with non-blacks.

Being pro-black doesn't mean being anti anyone else. Being pro-justice is great, I agree with that too but I also believe in providing the world with good black role models and building a strong black family.

If one is black and marries a white woman that doesn't negate his blackness but it negates his belief in building the black family.

People should be a proponent of the strong family in general and that's all good too.

 

[White_Owl_Willie]

I mean, if the man is biracial, does he really deserve to catch heat over dating someone who's the same race as one of his parents?

Often times when black men date white women they get hit with the "you must have issues with your mother(or black women in general), hate yourself,etc", but what if that man's mom is white?

 

[Kat]

IMO, the foundation of the outrage is far more superficial. It's not truly about a black man leaving a black woman for a white one. This issue was that many of these women were infatuated with this guy and saw his "average" looking wife and thought that they had a shot. Many women (and men) who claim to be "woke" subconsciously put a premium on whiteness, the closer to white the more attractive you are.

So you have this biracial black dude who made a pretty notable speech condemning systematic racism, with a average, everyday looking black women by his side and suddenly he's extremely popular. Furthermore, because he's "woke" and his wife looks like the way she does, there's no way he date a white woman, simply no way.

Now this guy leaves, and the wake up call was answered and all those women who put him up on a pedestal are pissed, not because they want to save the black family. Its because their "crush" don't like "plain jane" black women anymore...

Quoted for emphasis.

One of the better breakdowns I've ever seen here.

I don't think it's spot on..do I like to see obvious examples of love that are based on more than aesthetics? Of course. But I think mainly women just love to see examples of real, forever types of love. Something that says it still happens.

When one of those examples fails, it's disappointing.

 

[AP21]

IMO, the foundation of the outrage is far more superficial. It's not truly about a black man leaving a black woman for a white one. This issue was that many of these women were infatuated with this guy and saw his "average" looking wife and thought that they had a shot. Many women (and men) who claim to be "woke" subconsciously put a premium on whiteness, the closer to white the more attractive you are.

So you have this biracial black dude who made a pretty notable speech condemning systematic racism, with a average, everyday looking black women by his side and suddenly he's extremely popular. Furthermore, because he's "woke" and his wife looks like the way she does, there's no way he date a white woman, simply no way.

Now this guy leaves, and the wake up call was answered and all those women who put him up on a pedestal are pissed, not because they want to save the black family. Its because their "crush" don't like "plain jane" black women anymore...

Quoted for emphasis.

One of the better breakdowns I've ever seen here.

I don't think it's spot on..do I like to see obvious examples of love that are based on more than aesthetics? Of course. But I think mainly women just love to see examples of real, forever types of love. Something that says it still happens.

When one of those examples fails, it's disappointing.

so real love only exists b/t two people of the same pigmentation?

 

[Kat]

IMO, the foundation of the outrage is far more superficial. It's not truly about a black man leaving a black woman for a white one. This issue was that many of these women were infatuated with this guy and saw his "average" looking wife and thought that they had a shot. Many women (and men) who claim to be "woke" subconsciously put a premium on whiteness, the closer to white the more attractive you are.

So you have this biracial black dude who made a pretty notable speech condemning systematic racism, with a average, everyday looking black women by his side and suddenly he's extremely popular. Furthermore, because he's "woke" and his wife looks like the way she does, there's no way he date a white woman, simply no way.

Now this guy leaves, and the wake up call was answered and all those women who put him up on a pedestal are pissed, not because they want to save the black family. Its because their "crush" don't like "plain jane" black women anymore...

Quoted for emphasis.

One of the better breakdowns I've ever seen here.

I don't think it's spot on..do I like to see obvious examples of love that are based on more than aesthetics? Of course. But I think mainly women just love to see examples of real, forever types of love. Something that says it still happens.

When one of those examples fails, it's disappointing.

so real love only exists b/t two people of the same pigmentation?

Really? That's what you asking me?

 

[Trillfate]

On the other hand OB the same one who has no problems with her scamming philandering old ass pastor.

She also meets white dudes off of POF

I didn't say I didnt have a problem with it. I said I wasn't leaving my church.

I haven't met any white dudes from POF. I've never been on POF in my life. It was one white man and it was OkCupid.

Wtf? Hypocrisy!

"Thats what Tiggers do best!"

 

[AP21]

IMO, the foundation of the outrage is far more superficial. It's not truly about a black man leaving a black woman for a white one. This issue was that many of these women were infatuated with this guy and saw his "average" looking wife and thought that they had a shot. Many women (and men) who claim to be "woke" subconsciously put a premium on whiteness, the closer to white the more attractive you are.

So you have this biracial black dude who made a pretty notable speech condemning systematic racism, with a average, everyday looking black women by his side and suddenly he's extremely popular. Furthermore, because he's "woke" and his wife looks like the way she does, there's no way he date a white woman, simply no way.

Now this guy leaves, and the wake up call was answered and all those women who put him up on a pedestal are pissed, not because they want to save the black family. Its because their "crush" don't like "plain jane" black women anymore...

Quoted for emphasis.

One of the better breakdowns I've ever seen here.

I don't think it's spot on..do I like to see obvious examples of love that are based on more than aesthetics? Of course. But I think mainly women just love to see examples of real, forever types of love. Something that says it still happens.

When one of those examples fails, it's disappointing.

so real love only exists b/t two people of the same pigmentation?

Really? That's what you asking me?

my b

i misunderstood your post at first

but whats real is divorce...its a 50/50 shit that it might not work out for whatever reason

people need to get off that. Divorce aint the end of the world and isnt some indictment on you as a person. Sometimes shit just dont work and thats ok. I mean, they were together for a long ass time then decided to get married, so who knows what was the final straw

but to just dismiss this as some fling is whats bothering me the most b/c what if it comes out that his wife stepped out on him? will the outrage be the same?

 

[Kat]

That MFer completely disregarded how the mother of his children might feel having to watch this garbage play out in front of the whole damn world. He's frolicking through the streets of Paris holding hands with this heifer, while STILL married!

My main complaint is his lack of concern in that regard. That's not how I expected a man that proclaimed to do better by black women to handle things. He fucked up.

 

[AP21]

That MFer completely disregarded how the mother of his children might feel having to watch this garbage play out in front of the whole damn world. He's frolicking through the streets of Paris holding hands with this heifer, while STILL married!

My main complaint is his lack of concern in that regard. That's not how I expected a man that proclaimed to do better by black women to handle things. He fucked up.

let me ask you something

if they have been legally separated, do you still consider them to be married?

 

[Kat]

That MFer completely disregarded how the mother of his children might feel having to watch this garbage play out in front of the whole damn world. He's frolicking through the streets of Paris holding hands with this heifer, while STILL married!

My main complaint is his lack of concern in that regard. That's not how I expected a man that proclaimed to do better by black women to handle things. He fucked up.

let me ask you something

if they have been legally separated, do you still consider them to be married?

Absolutely.

People separate just to get back together all the time. Until they are legally divorced, they are married.

I know that's not how it always works, but at the very least he could have been more discreet. Like he actually gave af about someone other than himself.