Singing "We shall overcome", toiling on the Democratic plantation

[zzombie]

I think the real issue with black people is that we have the wrong idea of what this government is actually supposed to do for its citizens

 

[Bully_Pulpit]

Lol presidential race is coming down to whether you want rasict mob running shit or occultic "spirit cooking" globalist war mongers running it. Its bad either way and niggas is STILL debating over this bs two party red vs blue paradigm. We are truly up shits creek fam.

 

[Peace_79]

I didn't say Liberals and Conservatives. I said Democrats and Republicans.

Stop lying.

Addendum -

Also ... To say that the Republicans and Democrats

OR

Donald Trump AND Hilary Clinton AGREE on policy ...

Is probably the most CATEGORICALLY FALSE thing I have seen in this thread.

The respective parties and respective candidates are literally polar opposites on a myriad of issues...

Spoiler

And Before you say it - yes I know Trump is not a true conservative or Republican - but he IS the Republican Party nominee.

That does not mean that he Agrees with Hilary on the issues.

 

[Lord Ether]

Sigh. People say politicians have to earn your vote. Even if that is true, only ONE candidate has sincerely been trying to earn your vote, and that candidate is Hillary. And not just recently either.

Trump didn't do shit before September, and even when he did that was to make himself look good to moderate whites. And he still hasn't made any detailed proposals as far as i know.

Donald Trump 'The New Deal For Black America

 

[Lord Ether]

Black people have made progress but it's not the kind of progress people really want or really need basically it's just been social progress and social progress does not put any food on the table, doesn't Empower you you don't become wealthy because socially your ethnic group is now more accepted.

This is true. Black people own less than 1% of the wealth in this nation. Its been this way since the civil war.

The mistake our ancestors made during the civil rights movement was trying to be socially accepted into White society. What we should have fought for was equal access to resources so we cold build our own. You can be socially accepted, but if you don't own or control anything you're still a slave. I think the majority of Black people work government jobs anyway.

"Until you own your own you can't be free."

 

[Lord Ether]

Secret World of US Election: Julian Assange talks to John Pilger (FULL INTERVIEW)

 

[xxCivicxx]

I can't believe we made no progress since the slave days.

There is someone who would love to discuss that with you.

I've asked this question more than 4 times in this thread now

What progress have we made since the END OF SLAVERY??

Bruh. You can't be serious.

How come none of you can answer this question??

Why do y'all keep quoting me just to make a worthless statement?

If you can't answer the question, please stop seeking my attention in this thread just to make an irrelevant post

 

[xxCivicxx]

I couldn't not vote...too much local shit on the line down here

thats fine..

vote that then..

shit thats gonna have an affect on ur day to day life like smokin pot and shit..

BUT THESE TWO MUTHAFUCKAS!!?

That's what I'm saying...irdc who wins outa these two...not enough to vote for either at least. Somebody in here really asked what is hillary gonna do to make it better for all black people....like any president has ever made every person in a certain group's life better by doing anything....if your life doesn't get better in 4 years that's on you not the president.

You are making too much sense

Wait so Obama didn't pass laws that directly benefitted gay people and females?

So now there are no BLACK gay people and females?

What percentage of the black population benefits from gay rights??

More importantly, who within the black population DOES NOT benefit from gay rights legislation and women's rights legislation?

Well ...

This is 52% of the total Black population compared to Black males who make up 48% of the Black population.

The rest of your post was unnecessary

What rights do straight black males have? What rights have straight black males been given through legislation

No offense, but you must be either gay or a female since straight black male rights are irrelevant to you(even though these are the people that PERPETUATE THE RACE smh)

Talk about fabricating shit that I NEVER said.

I never said straight black male rights are irrelevant.

I actually have a great number of "RIGHTs" as a straight, black male - even the "basic human rights" which you earlier implied that Black people DO NOT currently have in America.

Just one example of the hyperbole that you have littered all over in his thread.

RESPECTING the rights of people different than me ... and considering BLACK PEOPLE to be ...

BLACK PEOPLE ...

does not mean that I neglect my own rights.

As a reminder - YOU have implied multiple times that Black LGBT rights and Black WOMEN's Rights ARE IRRELEVANT to you, by excluding them from he population of "BLACK people".

This is why you aren't very smart smh

You can't answer my questions and you keep talking around them

You literally edited a post of mine to say that I equated the current black condition to chattel slavery(WHICH IS SOMETHING YOU DID, I NEVER SAID THAT) because you are being sonned in this thread and you have no comeback for what is ACTUALLY BEING DISCUSSED

And now you keep making bloated hollow posts smh

 

[xxCivicxx]

I can't believe we made no progress since the slave days.

There is someone who would love to discuss that with you.

I've asked this question more than 4 times in this thread now

What progress have we made since the END OF SLAVERY??

no offense but your life must truly suck if you even gotta ask that.

Another worthless post

I don't understand, do you think this post will make people think you're "too intelligent" to respond?

How about you answer my question or humble yourself and admit that you cannot

From here on out anyone else that makes these stupid posts is getting put on ignore

ANSWER MY QUESTION OR IGNORE MY POSTS smh

WHAT HAS GOTTEN BETTER FOR BLACK PEOPLE SINCE THE END OF SLAVERY

 

[xxCivicxx]

Kill yourself.

Perfectly simple response from rabid extremist

Nothing of intellectual value in it

Yet I bet you think you're smart smh

 

[xxCivicxx]

What you pro-Hillary stans are really saying is......

You're scared to fight.

Voting for her means she's going to keep the status quo. In other words, it'll be just like a "3rd term" for Obama.

-Police still popping unarmed black men

-Public school to prison pipeline still going strong

-No black Supreme Court appointees

More complaints.

No solutions.

Again, Hilary has comprehensive policies to address the bolded.

If you actually knew what Hilary's polices were ....

I would ask you WHY you believe they are DOOMED to fail and, if you had your ideal candidate, WHAT they would do differently that would be SO much more effective.

Next, I'd ask you how passively electing DONALD TRUMP would NOT WORSEN those issues ....

And Many more issues affecting the black community and America at large.

This notion that "things can't get worse" would be hilarious ... if it wasn't so serious.

Niggas already forgot how bad shit was just 8 years ago SMH.

A Trump presidency scares you because you've bought in to the Democratic narrative of the evil Republicans.

When these muhfuckas agree on policy in private, but squabble in public to give the illusion that the voting public has a real choice.

To say that the conservatives and liberals AGREE on policy ...

Is probably the most CATEGORICALLY FALSE thing I have seen in this thread.

And that is saying a lot ...

You clearly aren't paying attention.

What are hillary's policies simpleton?

 

[xxCivicxx]

Lol presidential race is coming down to whether you want rasict mob running shit or occultic "spirit cooking" globalist war mongers running it. Its bad either way and niggas is STILL debating over this bs two party red vs blue paradigm. We are truly up shits creek fam.

Facts

 

[xxCivicxx]

Black people have made progress but it's not the kind of progress people really want or really need basically it's just been social progress and social progress does not put any food on the table, doesn't Empower you you don't become wealthy because socially your ethnic group is now more accepted.

This is true. Black people own less than 1% of the wealth in this nation. Its been this way since the civil war.

The mistake our ancestors made during the civil rights movement was trying to be socially accepted into White society. What we should have fought for was equal access to resources so we cold build our own. You can be socially accepted, but if you don't own or control anything you're still a slave. I think the majority of Black people work government jobs anyway.

"Until you own your own you can't be free."

They don't hear you

They're still slaves mentally

 

[nujerz84]

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/criminal-justice-reform/

 

[Lord Ether]

All these promises Hillary Clinton says she will make she will not do. If America (will) goes to war with the east most of the money will be taken out the country. The same people who were behind Bush are behind Clinton. I mean if the same people who fund isis are funding your organization. Something is going on. She is nothing more than a candidate for the banks and special interest groups.

 

[Swiffness!]

300 replies of coonery and Civic calling ppl "simpleton"?

rofl you niggas can have these threads

 

[blue_london]

Lol I hope some people posting in here doesn't have children

 

[CapitalB]

all i ask is someone bookmark this shit so we can up it once a yr. lol

 

[deadeye]

Lord..all I know is November 9th can't come soon enough.

It's gonna be a hell of a night either way.

If Clinton wins, this weirdo (Trump) will say it's rigged.

If he wins, then he'll act the ass and talk a bunch of reckless bullshit and most likely won't don 90% of the shit he didn't even have a plan to do in the first place.

And the Trump supporters you see on TV will go crazy either way.

---

But what I don't see is what people who make the point like T/S is making will do anything different.

You complain about people voting democrat like there's never been a republican in office. Something supposed to be different ?

You don't think Clinton is a "weirdo" I see that you call Trump one, why not call them both to make it fair and even.

You do know folks can say the same about what Hillary won't do, it's not like she is an angel and hasn't lied before..So she may not do 95% shit of the things she stated she will do.

The Trump supporters and white american are already crazy towards black ppl, what's new..They were crazy when Trump wasn't even running...You don't think white folks was crazy when Malcolm gave that speech in the 60's?

Your last two statements is what we've been talking about this no voting

If you had two fruits on the table, one was a bad apple and one was bad grapes..Will you still eat both?

I'm not trying to be "fair and even", I'm being honest. And honestly, Trump seems like more of a problem for me and the people I'm concerned about. And dude seems like more of a weirdo, and a more dangerous racist to me - just hasn't had as much of a platform, like the presidency, to practice his bullshit.

How can you not be "fair and even" and still be honest? come on dude...

Fair and even is calling out all Bullshit displayed by both parties, Is that not being honest?

Lol what's so crazy, there is enough of BS that could be said about Hillary if not more smh

Bruh, the shit is simple. I'm not going to make up some shit on behalf of another party in order to seem "fair". If one person is fuckin up and it's that obvious, then I'm going to call it out.

Did I see Trump stumbling to form a sentence and blurting shit out like he had Tourette's ? Yes.

Did I see Hillary doing it ? No.

Do I know that Trump took out an ad against the central park 5 demanding the death penalty ? Yes

Do I know that Trump still doubles down on those 5 Black people now that they've been exonerated ? Yes

Do I see Hillary not being able to spell out a plan on half the shit she's saying she's going to do as president (whether or not she's really going to do it) ? Yes

Trump ? No

etc...

I'm mindful of factual shit, not taking some speculative shit and running with it like it's fact. If there's some factual shit that I can weigh against Hillary v Trump, it'd be considered obviously.

There's numerous other points and like I said, I compared the 2 and made a decision - not everything is fuckin' equivalent.

Ever heard of Pros v. Cons ? Shit could be as simple as a MF counting up more Pros for Hillary and more Cons for Trump. It's that hard to understand ? The way you put it is like a MF said Hillary walks on water or some shit.

That's what Hillary is doing, she's laying out her plan for the better of America but none of that shit will get pass and none of that shit will see the day light to improve and help the black man or woman.

This is exactly how they "keep their promises."

Tell the public they're gonna do something.......and try to get it through Congress knowing full well that nothing will come of it.

Then claim they did their part and blame it on the other party for their bill not passing.

Or worse, blame it on us for not voting out the people in Congress who opposed their agenda.

Knowing full well that most congressional districts have been re-drawn to dilute the black vote.

Just adding insult to injury at that point.

 

[deadeye]

Ima say this

We are not in the same damn position as 1964 in 2016.

ask somebody that was grown in 64 and they will tell you

Go sit your dumbass down somewhere.

True.

We might actually be worse off since we let virtually all of our black businesses die out once we were allowed to "integrate."

Most older people I talk to in their 70's or older will say that we were better off back then because we were more united and had our own economic base to fall back on.