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Max.;c-9571299 said:If she pushed u...u can break her face
Its what the ic militants told me
babelipsss;c-9571318 said:Why does the IC constantly push this fairytale that says men only hit women when a woman hits first? There are millions of women in this world who have never dared raised a hand to a man but still get beaten. Fact.
SimptimusLEMZUS;c-9571279 said:"Women do not build or maintain society" lol.
Some of you guys need to have your post sent to your mothers and grandmothers and daughters.
That shit is some MEDIEVAL/TALIBAN idiocracy.
AND YALL WONDER WHY TRUMP IS YALL PRESIDENT!!!
SimptimusLEMZUS;c-9571276 said:@LordZuko can you stand in front of your mother who has made the equivalent of 9 marathons while pregnant, put her life at risk for giving birth to you, and say that women are LIMITED?
Its niggas like you that nurture feminazism with these type of disrespectfull and idiot statements.
Humiliation and downgrading just lead to war and extremism.
I hope that in 2017 when we will talk about this type of subject we will get more FACTUAL, POSITIVE and REPECTFULL towards each other, male and female poster.
We have to take appart our bad adventures and situations with the opposite sex and talk CLEAN.
Cause since 3 years now all im seeing most of the time is FRUSTRATION PROJECTION.
Merci
The Lonious Monk;c-9571471 said:Damn @zzombie, why can't you just make reasonable arguments. Why do you have to go off the deep end with shit? You're as bad as the extreme feminists.
Men are not so much better than women. I'm not sure where you even get that. Hell, nowadays a lot of men aren't doing shit.
That said, feminists are exaggerating the so-called barriers against women. In fact, in a lot of ways society has bent over backwards so much to no be anti-women, that things are starting to actually hurt men and boys. This is documented. The problem is that feminists and their supporters keep pushing lies that make it seem like the problems are worse than they are.
For example, even now people in high places are still spouting this "Women on get paid 77 cents for every dollar men get." That is a complete misrepresentation of data and most feminists know it, yet it still gets pushed. This is part of the reason that modern feminism is bullshit. I'm sure there are still fair struggles that women face, but for the most part all we ever hear about is them pushing lies or opinions out as fact.
On topic, some of you dudes have an unhealthy obsession with wanting to beat up women? What is that about? Going by some of your comments, it's like some of you pray that a woman taps you so you can beat her brains out. If dreaming for the day that you can beat up on someone weaker than you isn't some bitch ass shit, I don't know what is.
zzombie;c-9571487 said:I think your real problem is you want me to make a soft argument you want me to soften what I say because it sounds extreme to you.
Objectively speaking history has proved that men are better at the things that actually count like War, leadership and science even art. You can look all throughout history and even in our contemporary times and you won't find too many woman of comparable skills in the fields mentioned.
And if you look Within each Society and judge it by its own standards you will find the same pattern that you find in Western Society..
Namely that men are the ones pushing that Society forward. Women should be able to be free to live up to their potential and there are some women who are better than men but the male gender is overall better at most things of importance... it is what it is sorry I can't be nice about it
The Lonious Monk;c-9571512 said:zzombie;c-9571487 said:I think your real problem is you want me to make a soft argument you want me to soften what I say because it sounds extreme to you.
Objectively speaking history has proved that men are better at the things that actually count like War, leadership and science even art. You can look all throughout history and even in our contemporary times and you won't find too many woman of comparable skills in the fields mentioned.
And if you look Within each Society and judge it by its own standards you will find the same pattern that you find in Western Society..
Namely that men are the ones pushing that Society forward. Women should be able to be free to live up to their potential and there are some women who are better than men but the male gender is overall better at most things of importance... it is what it is sorry I can't be nice about it
What you're saying is just false. Men may have appeared to be better at things like leadership, science, and art throughout history, but that's largely because men are the ones that have had the opportunity. For most of history, at least in the west, women haven't really been able to participate in those things to a major degree. Hell, you could make the same argument about blacks in America. Whites could say that if you look through history they've been better at those things than us in this country, and that might be true, but it kinda ignores all the barriers we had set in front of us. As blacks have gained more opportunities, you'd seen great black leaders, scientists, and artists. The same goes for women. The male dominance is really just a hold over from times when physical might is what determined everything, and in that one area, men are unquestionably superior to women on average.
zzombie;c-9571521 said:The Lonious Monk;c-9571512 said:zzombie;c-9571487 said:I think your real problem is you want me to make a soft argument you want me to soften what I say because it sounds extreme to you.
Objectively speaking history has proved that men are better at the things that actually count like War, leadership and science even art. You can look all throughout history and even in our contemporary times and you won't find too many woman of comparable skills in the fields mentioned.
And if you look Within each Society and judge it by its own standards you will find the same pattern that you find in Western Society..
Namely that men are the ones pushing that Society forward. Women should be able to be free to live up to their potential and there are some women who are better than men but the male gender is overall better at most things of importance... it is what it is sorry I can't be nice about it
What you're saying is just false. Men may have appeared to be better at things like leadership, science, and art throughout history, but that's largely because men are the ones that have had the opportunity. For most of history, at least in the west, women haven't really been able to participate in those things to a major degree. Hell, you could make the same argument about blacks in America. Whites could say that if you look through history they've been better at those things than us in this country, and that might be true, but it kinda ignores all the barriers we had set in front of us. As blacks have gained more opportunities, you'd seen great black leaders, scientists, and artists. The same goes for women. The male dominance is really just a hold over from times when physical might is what determined everything, and in that one area, men are unquestionably superior to women on average.
amongst black people.. black men a better than black woman the pattern I mentioned in my last post still holds. Which is why I said going by the standards of each Society men are still better in the things that count. there is no black female equivalent to Miles Davis, Marcus Garvey or George Washington Carver.
our physical differences and biological differences have real consequences in our motivations and drives.
zzombie;c-9571536 said:Black people black men at the top
White people white men at the top
Chinese people Chinese men at the top
East Indian people East Indian men at the top
Hispanic people Hispanic men at the top.
^^^^^^ this is historical and contemporary reality so you cannot just blame Western Society for it it's always been this way amongst all people.
And I suspect it's because our biological differences force men no matter the circumstances to build ,to succeed, to fight to conquer.... as long as men are around women don't have to have the drive to do any of that. I know that as a man if I don't provide if I don't produce some kind of wealth, stability and safety for myself and for my children and women then I will be s*** in the eyes of other men and woman. However all a woman has to do is be pretty or be willing to give the pussy up and her life can be set.
Which is why today even with all the freedoms woman have women on average still don't work as hard as men in the workforce
The Lonious Monk;c-9571554 said:zzombie;c-9571521 said:The Lonious Monk;c-9571512 said:zzombie;c-9571487 said:I think your real problem is you want me to make a soft argument you want me to soften what I say because it sounds extreme to you.
Objectively speaking history has proved that men are better at the things that actually count like War, leadership and science even art. You can look all throughout history and even in our contemporary times and you won't find too many woman of comparable skills in the fields mentioned.
And if you look Within each Society and judge it by its own standards you will find the same pattern that you find in Western Society..
Namely that men are the ones pushing that Society forward. Women should be able to be free to live up to their potential and there are some women who are better than men but the male gender is overall better at most things of importance... it is what it is sorry I can't be nice about it
What you're saying is just false. Men may have appeared to be better at things like leadership, science, and art throughout history, but that's largely because men are the ones that have had the opportunity. For most of history, at least in the west, women haven't really been able to participate in those things to a major degree. Hell, you could make the same argument about blacks in America. Whites could say that if you look through history they've been better at those things than us in this country, and that might be true, but it kinda ignores all the barriers we had set in front of us. As blacks have gained more opportunities, you'd seen great black leaders, scientists, and artists. The same goes for women. The male dominance is really just a hold over from times when physical might is what determined everything, and in that one area, men are unquestionably superior to women on average.
amongst black people.. black men a better than black woman the pattern I mentioned in my last post still holds. Which is why I said going by the standards of each Society men are still better in the things that count. there is no black female equivalent to Miles Davis, Marcus Garvey or George Washington Carver.
our physical differences and biological differences have real consequences in our motivations and drives.
A lot of cultures in Africa prior to colonization shared responsibility between men and women. The two groups had different responsibilities and roles in leadership, but women weren't relegated to second class the way they have been in the West. And you can't treat the black community in the West as being totally separate from the West. In America the patriarchy has been just as ingrained in the society than the racist institution, hell to some extent, more ingrained. So yeah, there hasn't really been a female Marcus Garvey or a female George Washington Carver, but that's less because black women are incapable of doing things like that and more because black women would have never received the opportunity to rise to those heights given the barriers to them.
zzombie;c-9571536 said:Black people black men at the top
White people white men at the top
Chinese people Chinese men at the top
East Indian people East Indian men at the top
Hispanic people Hispanic men at the top.
^^^^^^ this is historical and contemporary reality so you cannot just blame Western Society for it it's always been this way amongst all people.
And I suspect it's because our biological differences force men no matter the circumstances to build ,to succeed, to fight to conquer.... as long as men are around women don't have to have the drive to do any of that. I know that as a man if I don't provide if I don't produce some kind of wealth, stability and safety for myself and for my children and women then I will be s*** in the eyes of other men and woman. However all a woman has to do is be pretty or be willing to give the pussy up and her life can be set.
Which is why today even with all the freedoms woman have women on average still don't work as hard as men in the workforce
Again, much of that is due to the fact that there was a point in all cultures where physical might is what determined who controlled the power. Men were always stronger in that way, so they almost always had the power. It doesn't mean women were stupid or couldn't lead. In fact, when you look at instances where women did get power such as with Hatshepsut or Elizabeth I, they are considered among the best leaders ever of their respective cultures.
LordZuko;c-9571176 said:desertrain10;c-9571078 said:zzombie;c-9571045 said:desertrain10;c-9571041 said:zzombie;c-9570809 said:Women are not equal but we pretend they are for the sake of societal peace.
Different is not less, it is not more and sometimes it requires additional measures in order to achieve equal treatment of both genders
Its not just for the sake of "peace" but rather the advancement of the human race lol
That said, one should hit anyone without provocation or reason, be it a man hitting a man, a man hitting a woman hitting a man, or a woman hitting a woman, plain and simple.
HEY!!!!! you are back i missed you have you gotten over the trauma of the election yet???
If we have to put additional measures in place to achieve equality for women then that means women aren't really equal it means we are lowering standards to accommodate their inferiority.
you Advance the human race by denying the truth of male female inequality??? lies equal advancement???
Fuck a trump
But I digress ...
Equal does not mean exactly the same
As I was saying different doesn't mean one sex is superior
And we’re not so different that this has to often be taken into consideration
The actual structural and cultural barriers in women face are not based on our capacity to learn, lead, reason, etc
That said, women make up at least half the population. By empowering women with access to the same opportunities, technologies and capital as men naturally that benefits us all, no?
What?
e·qual
ˈēkwəl/Submit
adjective
1.
being the same in quantity, size, degree, or value.
"add equal amounts of water and flour"
Fucking feminists
zzombie;c-9571575 said:The Lonious Monk;c-9571554 said:zzombie;c-9571521 said:The Lonious Monk;c-9571512 said:zzombie;c-9571487 said:I think your real problem is you want me to make a soft argument you want me to soften what I say because it sounds extreme to you.
Objectively speaking history has proved that men are better at the things that actually count like War, leadership and science even art. You can look all throughout history and even in our contemporary times and you won't find too many woman of comparable skills in the fields mentioned.
And if you look Within each Society and judge it by its own standards you will find the same pattern that you find in Western Society..
Namely that men are the ones pushing that Society forward. Women should be able to be free to live up to their potential and there are some women who are better than men but the male gender is overall better at most things of importance... it is what it is sorry I can't be nice about it
What you're saying is just false. Men may have appeared to be better at things like leadership, science, and art throughout history, but that's largely because men are the ones that have had the opportunity. For most of history, at least in the west, women haven't really been able to participate in those things to a major degree. Hell, you could make the same argument about blacks in America. Whites could say that if you look through history they've been better at those things than us in this country, and that might be true, but it kinda ignores all the barriers we had set in front of us. As blacks have gained more opportunities, you'd seen great black leaders, scientists, and artists. The same goes for women. The male dominance is really just a hold over from times when physical might is what determined everything, and in that one area, men are unquestionably superior to women on average.
amongst black people.. black men a better than black woman the pattern I mentioned in my last post still holds. Which is why I said going by the standards of each Society men are still better in the things that count. there is no black female equivalent to Miles Davis, Marcus Garvey or George Washington Carver.
our physical differences and biological differences have real consequences in our motivations and drives.
A lot of cultures in Africa prior to colonization shared responsibility between men and women. The two groups had different responsibilities and roles in leadership, but women weren't relegated to second class the way they have been in the West. And you can't treat the black community in the West as being totally separate from the West. In America the patriarchy has been just as ingrained in the society than the racist institution, hell to some extent, more ingrained. So yeah, there hasn't really been a female Marcus Garvey or a female George Washington Carver, but that's less because black women are incapable of doing things like that and more because black women would have never received the opportunity to rise to those heights given the barriers to them.
zzombie;c-9571536 said:Black people black men at the top
White people white men at the top
Chinese people Chinese men at the top
East Indian people East Indian men at the top
Hispanic people Hispanic men at the top.
^^^^^^ this is historical and contemporary reality so you cannot just blame Western Society for it it's always been this way amongst all people.
And I suspect it's because our biological differences force men no matter the circumstances to build ,to succeed, to fight to conquer.... as long as men are around women don't have to have the drive to do any of that. I know that as a man if I don't provide if I don't produce some kind of wealth, stability and safety for myself and for my children and women then I will be s*** in the eyes of other men and woman. However all a woman has to do is be pretty or be willing to give the pussy up and her life can be set.
Which is why today even with all the freedoms woman have women on average still don't work as hard as men in the workforce
Again, much of that is due to the fact that there was a point in all cultures where physical might is what determined who controlled the power. Men were always stronger in that way, so they almost always had the power. It doesn't mean women were stupid or couldn't lead. In fact, when you look at instances where women did get power such as with Hatshepsut or Elizabeth I, they are considered among the best leaders ever of their respective cultures.
I am not one to romanticize African history... all African societies that had women in greater power were more primitive . all the great African societies were patriarchal Mali , songhai even the Zulu.
Physical might still determines who's going to rule because that physicality which is rooted in biology has real life social effects.... big strong men don't act the same as weaker men or women because physicality affect confidence and confidence affects how people perceive you.
And I don't think women are stupid just that they are not as good as men in things that actually count.
desertrain10;c-9571589 said:zzombie;c-9571575 said:The Lonious Monk;c-9571554 said:zzombie;c-9571521 said:The Lonious Monk;c-9571512 said:zzombie;c-9571487 said:I think your real problem is you want me to make a soft argument you want me to soften what I say because it sounds extreme to you.
Objectively speaking history has proved that men are better at the things that actually count like War, leadership and science even art. You can look all throughout history and even in our contemporary times and you won't find too many woman of comparable skills in the fields mentioned.
And if you look Within each Society and judge it by its own standards you will find the same pattern that you find in Western Society..
Namely that men are the ones pushing that Society forward. Women should be able to be free to live up to their potential and there are some women who are better than men but the male gender is overall better at most things of importance... it is what it is sorry I can't be nice about it
What you're saying is just false. Men may have appeared to be better at things like leadership, science, and art throughout history, but that's largely because men are the ones that have had the opportunity. For most of history, at least in the west, women haven't really been able to participate in those things to a major degree. Hell, you could make the same argument about blacks in America. Whites could say that if you look through history they've been better at those things than us in this country, and that might be true, but it kinda ignores all the barriers we had set in front of us. As blacks have gained more opportunities, you'd seen great black leaders, scientists, and artists. The same goes for women. The male dominance is really just a hold over from times when physical might is what determined everything, and in that one area, men are unquestionably superior to women on average.
amongst black people.. black men a better than black woman the pattern I mentioned in my last post still holds. Which is why I said going by the standards of each Society men are still better in the things that count. there is no black female equivalent to Miles Davis, Marcus Garvey or George Washington Carver.
our physical differences and biological differences have real consequences in our motivations and drives.
A lot of cultures in Africa prior to colonization shared responsibility between men and women. The two groups had different responsibilities and roles in leadership, but women weren't relegated to second class the way they have been in the West. And you can't treat the black community in the West as being totally separate from the West. In America the patriarchy has been just as ingrained in the society than the racist institution, hell to some extent, more ingrained. So yeah, there hasn't really been a female Marcus Garvey or a female George Washington Carver, but that's less because black women are incapable of doing things like that and more because black women would have never received the opportunity to rise to those heights given the barriers to them.
zzombie;c-9571536 said:Black people black men at the top
White people white men at the top
Chinese people Chinese men at the top
East Indian people East Indian men at the top
Hispanic people Hispanic men at the top.
^^^^^^ this is historical and contemporary reality so you cannot just blame Western Society for it it's always been this way amongst all people.
And I suspect it's because our biological differences force men no matter the circumstances to build ,to succeed, to fight to conquer.... as long as men are around women don't have to have the drive to do any of that. I know that as a man if I don't provide if I don't produce some kind of wealth, stability and safety for myself and for my children and women then I will be s*** in the eyes of other men and woman. However all a woman has to do is be pretty or be willing to give the pussy up and her life can be set.
Which is why today even with all the freedoms woman have women on average still don't work as hard as men in the workforce
Again, much of that is due to the fact that there was a point in all cultures where physical might is what determined who controlled the power. Men were always stronger in that way, so they almost always had the power. It doesn't mean women were stupid or couldn't lead. In fact, when you look at instances where women did get power such as with Hatshepsut or Elizabeth I, they are considered among the best leaders ever of their respective cultures.
I am not one to romanticize African history... all African societies that had women in greater power were more primitive . all the great African societies were patriarchal Mali , songhai even the Zulu.
Physical might still determines who's going to rule because that physicality which is rooted in biology has real life social effects.... big strong men don't act the same as weaker men or women because physicality affect confidence and confidence affects how people perceive you.
And I don't think women are stupid just that they are not as good as men in things that actually count.
Smh
Many ppl, including women who've internalized this garbage, think this way
The idea that women can’t be trusted with decision making or to lead
And that's why structural and cultural barriers to independence and self realization women face persist
desertrain10;c-9571583 said:LordZuko;c-9571176 said:desertrain10;c-9571078 said:zzombie;c-9571045 said:desertrain10;c-9571041 said:zzombie;c-9570809 said:Women are not equal but we pretend they are for the sake of societal peace.
Different is not less, it is not more and sometimes it requires additional measures in order to achieve equal treatment of both genders
Its not just for the sake of "peace" but rather the advancement of the human race lol
That said, one should hit anyone without provocation or reason, be it a man hitting a man, a man hitting a woman hitting a man, or a woman hitting a woman, plain and simple.
HEY!!!!! you are back i missed you have you gotten over the trauma of the election yet???
If we have to put additional measures in place to achieve equality for women then that means women aren't really equal it means we are lowering standards to accommodate their inferiority.
you Advance the human race by denying the truth of male female inequality??? lies equal advancement???
Fuck a trump
But I digress ...
Equal does not mean exactly the same
As I was saying different doesn't mean one sex is superior
And we’re not so different that this has to often be taken into consideration
The actual structural and cultural barriers in women face are not based on our capacity to learn, lead, reason, etc
That said, women make up at least half the population. By empowering women with access to the same opportunities, technologies and capital as men naturally that benefits us all, no?
What?
e·qual
ˈēkwəl/Submit
adjective
1.
being the same in quantity, size, degree, or value.
"add equal amounts of water and flour"
Fucking feminists
Lol
Smh
Equal is qualified by quantity, size, /or and value NOT sameness