Simone Manuel FTW

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Real blacks don't swim

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Serious question, all the media outlets are reporting that she's the "first African-American woman to win an individual in swimming"

Now when they say African-American is that meant literally, or is the PC way of saying Black but they mean black worldwide?

What do u mean

He's asking if they mean African American or Black since not all Blacks are African Americans

Oh. Are we going to do this for every black athlete now?

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Serious question, all the media outlets are reporting that she's the "first African-American woman to win an individual in swimming"

Now when they say African-American is that meant literally, or is the PC way of saying Black but they mean black worldwide?

What do u mean

He's asking if they mean African American or Black since not all Blacks are African Americans

Oh. Are we going to do this for every black athlete now?

I think it's a valid question in this case. He simply wants to know if she's the first ever AA to win a medal in swimming or the first ever Black person to win a medal in swimming. I mean some Jamaican chick might have won a medal back in the day for all we know.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Serious question, all the media outlets are reporting that she's the "first African-American woman to win an individual in swimming"

Now when they say African-American is that meant literally, or is the PC way of saying Black but they mean black worldwide?

What do u mean

He's asking if they mean African American or Black since not all Blacks are African Americans

Oh. Are we going to do this for every black athlete now?

I think it's a valid question in this case. He simply wants to know if she's the first ever AA to win a medal in swimming or the first ever Black person to win a medal in swimming. I mean some Jamaican chick might have won a medal back in the day for all we know.

I have no idea tbh

I assume they are only referring to black americans

 

[babelipsss]

What else could African American mean?

 

[CashmoneyDux]

What else could African American mean?

Someone from Africa that immigrated to America and became a citizen...

It's not that hard guys

 

[CashmoneyDux]

I don't consider myself African Americans as I feel like

1) it's slightly offensive because it groups all Africans in one group as if Africa is one big Country

2) I'm not from Africa, I'm black though.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

What else could African American mean?

Most media use AA to describe all black ppl living in the us

 

[The Lonious Monk]

What else could African American mean?

Most media use AA to describe all black ppl living in the us

Yep, and a lot of arrogant ass AAs act like AAs are the only people who count as black. We saw that during Obama's first run when black people were saying he wasn't black because his dad was Kenyan.

 

[Swiffness!]

Worried about bad bitches instead

Ingrid Oliveira

Less time looking cute and more time training she might have placed higher than 8th.

So awesome for Simone. Two amazing Simones representing the H!

SMFH. Some people just on a mission to shit on dark women....

I was waiting for someone to say "only coons can swim, real niggas drown"

 

[Jabu_Rule]

What else could African American mean?

Most media use AA to describe all black ppl living in the us

Yep, and a lot of arrogant ass AAs act like AAs are the only people who count as black. We saw that during Obama's first run when black people were saying he wasn't black because his dad was Kenyan.

That's not what they were saying at all. They were saying he wasn't African American which is something applied to people whose ancestors were slaves. Barack is Kenyan American or simply American which AAs go by also. I'm sure you are aware that African Americans are named such because they don't have a country of origin in Africa. It is distinct from Asian Americans which is a pointless nomenclature being that Indians in no way identify with Chinese, or Russians which are all on the Asian Continent and are aware of and identify wholly with their homeland unlike europeans which have a very close nit, yet distinct culture across the continent. Even they identify with their homeland (country, nation, tribe) first and foremost.

 

[blackrain]

What else could African American mean?

Most media use AA to describe all black ppl living in the us

Yep, and a lot of arrogant ass AAs act like AAs are the only people who count as black. We saw that during Obama's first run when black people were saying he wasn't black because his dad was Kenyan.

That's not what they were saying at all. They were saying he wasn't African American which is something applied to people whose ancestors were slaves. Barack is Kenyan American or simply American which AAs go by also. I'm sure you are aware that African Americans are named such because they don't have a country of origin in Africa. It is distinct from Asian Americans which is a pointless nomenclature being that Indians in no way identify with Chinese, or Russians which are all on the Asian Continent and are aware of and identify wholly with their homeland unlike europeans which have a very close nit, yet distinct culture across the continent. Even they identify with their homeland (country, nation, tribe) first and foremost.

This is true but there are some who will call any black person not from the states not black. I've seen AAs tell people from the islands all the time that they're not "real black people"

 

[The Lonious Monk]

What else could African American mean?

Most media use AA to describe all black ppl living in the us

Yep, and a lot of arrogant ass AAs act like AAs are the only people who count as black. We saw that during Obama's first run when black people were saying he wasn't black because his dad was Kenyan.

That's not what they were saying at all. They were saying he wasn't African American which is something applied to people whose ancestors were slaves. Barack is Kenyan American or simply American which AAs go by also. I'm sure you are aware that African Americans are named such because they don't have a country of origin in Africa. It is distinct from Asian Americans which is a pointless nomenclature being that Indians in no way identify with Chinese, or Russians which are all on the Asian Continent and are aware of and identify wholly with their homeland unlike europeans which have a very close nit, yet distinct culture across the continent. Even they identify with their homeland (country, nation, tribe) first and foremost.

No, there were people saying he wasn't black. We had a big thread about this where people were trying to justify that dumb shit.

 

[StillFaggyAF]

Well he is mixed

 

[Jabu_Rule]

What else could African American mean?

Most media use AA to describe all black ppl living in the us

Yep, and a lot of arrogant ass AAs act like AAs are the only people who count as black. We saw that during Obama's first run when black people were saying he wasn't black because his dad was Kenyan.

That's not what they were saying at all. They were saying he wasn't African American which is something applied to people whose ancestors were slaves. Barack is Kenyan American or simply American which AAs go by also. I'm sure you are aware that African Americans are named such because they don't have a country of origin in Africa. It is distinct from Asian Americans which is a pointless nomenclature being that Indians in no way identify with Chinese, or Russians which are all on the Asian Continent and are aware of and identify wholly with their homeland unlike europeans which have a very close nit, yet distinct culture across the continent. Even they identify with their homeland (country, nation, tribe) first and foremost.

No, there were people saying he wasn't black. We had a big thread about this where people were trying to justify that dumb shit.

Man i thought you were speaking on the AAs that were politically against him like Jessie Jackson because he wasn't an AA. People on this board are ass backwards, so i can't really comment on that.

 

[The Lonious Monk]

Man i thought you were speaking on the AAs that were politically against him like Jessie Jackson because he wasn't an AA. People on this board are ass backwards, so i can't really comment on that.

It wasn't just people on this board though. The thread existed because of the fact that it was a trend going around at the time.

The closest anyone had to a valid point was that he wasn't the American kind of "black" in that since his father was from Africa and the other side of his family was white, he didn't really have a good understanding of what it really means to come up as Black in the US. Even that's problematic though.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

What else could African American mean?

Most media use AA to describe all black ppl living in the us

Yep, and a lot of arrogant ass AAs act like AAs are the only people who count as black. We saw that during Obama's first run when black people were saying he wasn't black because his dad was Kenyan.

That's not what they were saying at all. They were saying he wasn't African American which is something applied to people whose ancestors were slaves. Barack is Kenyan American or simply American which AAs go by also. I'm sure you are aware that African Americans are named such because they don't have a country of origin in Africa. It is distinct from Asian Americans which is a pointless nomenclature being that Indians in no way identify with Chinese, or Russians which are all on the Asian Continent and are aware of and identify wholly with their homeland unlike europeans which have a very close nit, yet distinct culture across the continent. Even they identify with their homeland (country, nation, tribe) first and foremost.

This is true but there are some who will call any black person not from the states not black. I've seen AAs tell people from the islands all the time that they're not "real black people"

IDK how to respond to that. I've personally in my life have never heard that. I've only seen conflict between AAs and blacks from elsewhere. Every black has at least said they were African or identified with their country of birth.

 

[Jabu_Rule]

Man i thought you were speaking on the AAs that were politically against him like Jessie Jackson because he wasn't an AA. People on this board are ass backwards, so i can't really comment on that.

It wasn't just people on this board though. The thread existed because of the fact that it was a trend going around at the time.

The closest anyone had to a valid point was that he wasn't the American kind of "black" in that since his father was from Africa and the other side of his family was white, he didn't really have a good understanding of what it really means to come up as Black in the US. Even that's problematic though.

They were speaking on the fact that his pops wasn't actually from here so he wasn't coming up "Black in the US". He was "Black in Africa". His moms was white and raised him. People questioned how he could identify with issues that affect the Black Community in America which he didn't directly come up in. It had nothing to do with him being specifically of Kenyan descent. No matter where you are from, if you move into the black community, your kids will identify a certain way unless you grew up cac which many have even though they parents grew up around their own. This is the reason blacks give him a hard time now and feel he doesn't connect with black issues.

 

[Max.]

This is so sad

 

[blackrain]

What else could African American mean?

Most media use AA to describe all black ppl living in the us

Yep, and a lot of arrogant ass AAs act like AAs are the only people who count as black. We saw that during Obama's first run when black people were saying he wasn't black because his dad was Kenyan.

That's not what they were saying at all. They were saying he wasn't African American which is something applied to people whose ancestors were slaves. Barack is Kenyan American or simply American which AAs go by also. I'm sure you are aware that African Americans are named such because they don't have a country of origin in Africa. It is distinct from Asian Americans which is a pointless nomenclature being that Indians in no way identify with Chinese, or Russians which are all on the Asian Continent and are aware of and identify wholly with their homeland unlike europeans which have a very close nit, yet distinct culture across the continent. Even they identify with their homeland (country, nation, tribe) first and foremost.

This is true but there are some who will call any black person not from the states not black. I've seen AAs tell people from the islands all the time that they're not "real black people"

IDK how to respond to that. I've personally in my life have never heard that. I've only seen conflict between AAs and blacks from elsewhere. Every black has at least said they were African or identified with their country of birth.

I've used this example before on here... while back MTV did a special on hip hop in Puerto Rico. Tego Calderon, who has written articles about how blacks in PR are treated, showed where he grew up. A town that's 90% black and someone on the IC said "damn they look like normal black people".... that's part of where that conflict you see comes from. People telling us we aren't black just because we speak another language or with an accent....yes there's issues on the other side too in terms of self identifying but I can tell you in my 30 years alive I've never had another Latino or Caribbean person tell me I'm not really black...that's only came from AAs