Should Kobe be the MVP?

[Chi-Town Bully]

Ben Wallace did those same things and he aint gettin in.

Rodman more titles and doing it a longer period puts him over Wallace in my opinion

 

[playmaker88]

Rodman more titles and doing it a longer period puts him over Wallace in my opinion

This and i think Ben has a shot.

 

[Jr523]

Rodman more titles and doing it a longer period puts him over Wallace in my opinion

Rodman wasnt a focal point of his team during those tittles.

 

[Jr523]

That's a crock of DOG$hit there, douchefiger, as Kobe is the pinnacle of criticism since 2003. Kobe gets more hate, from fans/league/refs/Commissioner, than Michael Jordan could've ever even imagined having to deal with. So you sound like a damn fool.

how many players ever got treated like this, just for trying to do a newspaper/magazine piece for opening up to them and sharing his Life with them:

One thing's for sure you know for the time I've been posting here, I'm infamous for...usually standing, alone, in the premises that I bring to discussions for Enlightenment and Exchange of Beautiful Ideas.

None of that shit matters when u get on that court. Lebron is gettin more hate from fans than Kobe got.

 

[htowntx]

I've seen angryman in the same threads as me sayin pippen is overrated and sayin his stats are weak and now you tryna give him credit

When u Speaks facts on kobe you get flooded on here.Im no different than an anti jordan person you cant criticize the almighty black mamba(wack self made nickname btw) cuz there way to many groupies on here Im just not one of em

It wont change nothin and I definitely wont argue wit 8 people vs 1.I dont have or need the same 5-6 people to quote/cosign me

Cant say the same for ya'll

The point I'm trying to make is that ppl(u) overrate gasol just as much

 

[Ibex]

One thing's for sure you know for the time I've been posting here, I'm infamous for...usually standing, alone, in the premises that I bring to discussions for Enlightenment and Exchange of Beautiful Ideas.

LMAO at this statement ya'll niggas is hilarious!...Only on the IC I swear it

 

[Jr523]

No, Jr.

Ben Wallace did not do, what Rodman did. Wallace won one ring, D-nice won 5...plus Wallace was bigger and broader, than Rodman, meaning Rodman had to work much much harder than Wallace, to be effective, considering his smaller mass. Plus Wallace guarded Centers, whom were usually much slower than him. Whereas Rodman guarded everybody in your whole frontcourt!! And then we can move on to discuss, the rebounding aspect of Rodman's superiority over Wallace's skill-set in that area.

Once again, Rodman wasn't the focal point of his teams so them rings don't mean shit. Even though Wallace was quicker than most centers he was usually weaker than them as well.

 

[Chi-Town Bully]

Pippen won playoffs series leading a team, Gasol didn't. Pippen role is diminished while Gasol is wrongly hyped up

 

[major pain]

This and i think Ben has a shot.

Maybe on a 2nd or 3rd ballot, but if you look at recent entries into the HOF, you have some REALLY impactful players that are just getting in... it might be hard for Wallace to get a nod.

 

[Ibex]

come on now, Ib, you are living proof of how I usually bring unique, authentic, solo premises to pummel your arguments to smitherings.

*Dying* stop it son...I see you creeping though

 

[MR.CJ]

Gasol will maybe have a shot in the Hall of Fame. There are tons of big men who averaged 20-10 and havent even made the All-nba third team, let alone HOF. Duncan, Webber, Garnett, Howard, Dirk & Amare got a better shot. (well....Dennis Rodman got in...scratches head)

Lakers were in 1st Place in 2008 before the Gasol Trade

Kobe made the Playoffs twice without Gasol or Shaq. Gasol not once before coming to L.A.

Gasol isn't the difference maker. Gasol AND Bynum are the difference makers. Gasol's too soft to be the primary post player. Bynum's too sporadic to be the only post player. Our frontcourt dominates in the Playoffs when both are on.

Cut the bullshit...as a star player, who would you rather have as a teammate....Pau Gasol or Scottie Pippen?

gasol did make the playoffs in memphis

 

[Maalik]

Niggas ITS OVA this smittysmith cat just came and sprayed the thread up wit more factual info that closes this thread some more

No matter how hard kobe stans overcompensate and stick to the 3 point % and 81 points its OVA

Accept it like a man and stfu.When they make "Jordan rules" to stop a player you cant tell me a player isnt dangerous

They made RULES of physicality and triple teams to stop a player and he still dropped 45-50 on em

Lol @ the piggybacking and dickriding.Same niggas cosigning and quoting the same 4 people

Shits pathetic

Cmon b. You act like I aint been talkin to you the last 3 days. You call niggas cheerleaders when they oppose you & sing along when niggas praise you. Stop it Five.

 

[Maalik]

gasol did make the playoffs in memphis

I stand corrected then...

It aint that I dismiss Gasol...it's that I've seen him check out too much to be saying Kobe aint shit without him. The Lakers either play the Triangle offense or Kobe save us. Most of the Finals games in Boston ended up being the latter.

 

[playmaker88]

I stand corrected then...

It aint that I dismiss Gasol...it's that I've seen him check out too much to be saying Kobe aint shit without him. The Lakers either play the Triangle offense or Kobe save us. Most of the Finals games in Boston ended up being the latter.

They also got swept twice

 

[Maalik]

They also got swept twice

True..........

 

[Chi-Town Bully]

They also got swept twice

Make that 3 times

 

[Maalik]

Sayin smittysmith(a poster I never saw post before) sprayed the thread wit facts is not cosigning and dickriding

You had no leg to stand on you were flustered and extremely frustrated and cosigned anybody who agree wit you like u doin right now

Reppin is a kobe groupie just like you and excessively cosigned him and anybody who is pro kobe

I dont need cosigners at all I can go back in that other thread and post examples of how pathetic and emotional you got

Tommy...I've sonned you repeatedly.

I could start an account right now...come in agreeing with you & you'd be "Thread is OVER...new account just posted MORE FACTS...THREAD IS OVER B"

That's lame nigga shit. I dont even know why you in this thread....YOU CALLED KOBE BRYANT A ROLE PLAYER. A ROLE PLAYER. YOUR OPINION'S MEANINGLESS ON THIS SUBJECT

 

[Maalik]

In my defense...you really a retarded ass dude

LOL @ you gettin irate

LOL @ me not even caring to search your posts. Everybody on here who sees your name knows some hateful, biased shit got typed.

LOL @ not addressing the "Kobe's a role player" comment. You the king at deflection.

 

[ReppinTime]

Fact lakers were 29-16 the day they acquired pau gasol.Facts lakers went 13-2 immediately after they got gasol

fact lakers record in 08 after gasol was 28-9

Fact gasol was an all star before he played in l.a.and will be in the hall of fame so kobe like many other players needed an allstar and hof'r to win

FACT = Lakers had the 1 seed before Gasol got there. The Lakers record didn't start dropping till Bynum was injured and Kwame Brown was back fucking up.
FACT= Gasol is a career 18, 8 with ZERO playoff wins. not a single game. Lamarcus Alderidge has better numbers.
FACT = Nobody EVER even entertained Gasol and Hall of Fame till Kobe.
FACT= Kobe is the ONLY superstar to win a title without another Hall Of Famer. Fact = Kobe has done it twice now.
FACT = You were running around saying Kobe cant win a ring without Shaq till he did it twice, now you're a Gasol fan.

I'd rather have pau gasol as my teammate personally

Skilled post players are more valuable than wing players

Its sad gasol gets dismissed homie was a top 3 draft pick,rookie of the year,puttin up 19 and 9 before kobe,led his team to the playoffs and was an all star

Now he's a nobody according to ya'll

Comments like these show why its pointless entertaining this nigga. He has the audacity to hype up this nigga but shit on Pippen just to spite Kobe.

Nigga says he would take a career 18,8 who never won playoff GAME over a top 50 all time player who has this resume

55 win season + playoff series wins+ avg'd 22pts 49% FG 8.7 reb 5.6 ast
MVP candidate in 94
One of the best defenders in the history of the game
Top 50 all time (easily)
# 7x NBA All-Star (1990, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997)
# 1× NBA All-Star Game MVP (1994)
# 3× All-NBA First Team Selection (1994–1996)
# 2× All-NBA Second Team Selection (1992, 1997)
# 2× All-NBA Third Team Selection (1993, 1998)
# 10× NBA All-Defensive Team Selection

 

[major pain]

because you post the most bullsiht, for one reason or another, that shouldn't be allowed onto this website.

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