Should Kobe be the MVP?

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its over: 2012!;2331127 said:
Voters saw how 'Sheed was treating Gasol, like his bytches, and had it not been for the refs rescuing Gasol several times then Boston would be champs and 'Sheed would be Finals MVP!

Gotta be a fail-lias. Just gotta be. smh.

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its over: 2012!;2331127 said:
there you go again, ignoring reality, just to extend your obtuse opinion on sports...

you must've forgot about someone that the MVP voters didn't forget about, some guy called...Rasheed Wallace?

Voters saw how 'Sheed was treating Gasol, like his bytches, and had it not been for the refs rescuing Gasol several times then Boston would be champs and 'Sheed would be Finals MVP!

Go rewind the Finals and behold, Gasol shaking in his boots every time 'Sheed entered the game to unleash one of those dogmatic flurries on him...LOL...especially defensively, the way he snatching Gasol around like a rag doll.

Wake up and return to the Earth, douchefiger, the good 'ol boy network is here waiting for you

lol...........
 
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Notice how you morons continue to rewrite history to support your bullshit.
lol @ Jordan stans talking about Nike propaganda.

Yes the lakers struggled with a team that started Smush parker and Kwame Brown in a conference where 50 wins didn't guarantee a playoff spot. But what you morons that swallow Gasol (to spite Kobe) neglect to mention is that once those trash niggas were gone Kobe had the Lakers in 1st place in the west BEFORE Gasol got there.
 
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ReppinTime;2331273 said:
Notice how you morons continue to rewrite history to support your bullshit.

lol @ Jordan stans talking about Nike propaganda.

Yes the lakers struggled with a team that started Smush parker and Kwame Brown in a conference where 50 wins didn't guarantee a playoff spot. But what you morons that swallow Gasol (to spite Kobe) neglect to mention is that once those trash niggas were gone Kobe had the Lakers in 1st place in the west BEFORE Gasol got there.

Do you honestly think the Lakers would've sniffed a Finals appearance by now if it werent for Gasol?

The size of the Lakers has been what defines them for the last for years and no one has more to do with that than Gasol.
 
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PanchoYoSancho;2331439 said:
Do you honestly think the Lakers would've sniffed a Finals appearance by now if it werent for Gasol?

The size of the Lakers has been what defines them for the last for years and no one has more to do with that than Gasol.

Once again they were the 1 seed BEFORE Gasol and they were only getting better. Gasol is nothing more than an exchangeable piece, a career 18pt 8rb cracca that none of you niggas dickrode till Kobe got him rings. He is Lamarcus Aldridge but softer.
 
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Tommy u always give gasol a lot of credit for the Lakers recent success bringing up before and after records.....but what was mj's winning % pre pippen and post pippen?

And how did he do in the playoffs pre pippen and post pippen?
 
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Other than Pippens rookie year Jordan never won more than 40 games. When Pippen developed thats when the Bulls became title contenders. Jordan was putting up big numbers like Kobe but was going home early in the playoffs when neither had the help. Kobe did make the playoffs before Gasol came to the team.
 
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Tommy bilfiger;2331966 said:
Laughs at the lame who made a thread sayin *Mike is jealous of the current nba players* and got shitted on for pages

Couldnt even make a coherent reply after getting sonned so bad

Mike was a 21-23 year old player his 1st 3 years and was 39-40 without pippen so basically if he dont win rings within his 1st 3 years or at age 39-40 he's a failure

Great logic especially when this idiot 2012 troll said 'Young players never win rings' according to your logic mike did what most young players did wit the exception of (duncan,kareem,magic and bird)

The same Mike that told some kid not to wear Kobe sneakers??? Yeah....I musta been reachin with that one...."kobes a one dimensional scorer"
 
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Jordan was leading the team all the other years that he played also didn't he and didnt win nothing. Kobe in the same position as Mike was. Without a sidekick neither won anything.
 
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Tommy bilfiger;2331913 said:
Before the bulls promoted phil jackson drafted Pippen AND grant and the cartwright trade jordan was 0-3 in the playoffs

I like how pippen gets all the credit tho

Kobe was 0-2 and didnt even make the playoffs before gasol,Similar to mike its obvious you need a team to win

Without Mike pippen has zero rings and made it past the 1st round twice

I get your point but without kobe gasol didn't win one playoff GAME....let alone series
 
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yroholla;2327283 said:
I'm still curious as to how Kobe is a one dimensional scorer....care to explain that statement u made Tommy without antagonizing anybody in here?

did this get replied too? i havent caught up on the thread yet
 
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Tommy bilfiger;2331936 said:
Btw pippen rookie year pippen didnt start one game and played 20 mins per game and averaged a whopping 7.9 ppg 3.8 rpg and 2.1 apg

Playoffs didnt start any games and averaged 10 ppg in 29 mins.Pippen was a bench player

Phil jackson was a no name assistant.Bulls won 50 games,Mike won Mvp and went to the 2nd round.I guess pippen is the reason for this too right?

Before the gasol trade kobe had the Lakers as the 1 seed out west....on their way to winning more than 50 games
 
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htowntx;2332044 said:
I get your point but without kobe gasol didn't win one playoff GAME....let alone series

Nothing left to see folks....thanks for coming out
 
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Gasol will maybe have a shot in the Hall of Fame. There are tons of big men who averaged 20-10 and havent even made the All-nba third team, let alone HOF. Duncan, Webber, Garnett, Howard, Dirk & Amare got a better shot. (well....Dennis Rodman got in...scratches head)

Lakers were in 1st Place in 2008 before the Gasol Trade

Kobe made the Playoffs twice without Gasol or Shaq. Gasol not once before coming to L.A.

Gasol isn't the difference maker. Gasol AND Bynum are the difference makers. Gasol's too soft to be the primary post player. Bynum's too sporadic to be the only post player. Our frontcourt dominates in the Playoffs when both are on.

Cut the bullshit...as a star player, who would you rather have as a teammate....Pau Gasol or Scottie Pippen?
 
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Maalik;2332138 said:
Gasol will maybe have a shot in the Hall of Fame. There are tons of big men who averaged 20-10 and havent even made the All-nba third team, let alone HOF. Duncan, Webber, Garnett, Howard, Dirk & Amare got a better shot. (well....Dennis Rodman got in...scratches head)

Lakers were in 1st Place in 2008 before the Gasol Trade

Kobe made the Playoffs twice without Gasol or Shaq. Gasol not once before coming to L.A.

Gasol isn't the difference maker. Gasol AND Bynum are the difference makers. Gasol's too soft to be the primary post player. Bynum's too sporadic to be the only post player. Our frontcourt dominates in the Playoffs when both are on.

Cut the bullshit...as a star player, who would you rather have as a teammate....Pau Gasol or Scottie Pippen?

Gasol is much better when you spoon feed him and hit him in his spots ..

shit kb has played the mj/pip role his whole career.. with Pip you knew ou were getting solid impacful number across the board and putting the smash on whoever he was guarding. No slight at Gasol hes important but hes like shareef abdur rahim numbers wise, hell may get to the hall by virtue of winning another ship... no based on his numbers soley
 
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its over: 2012!;2332151 said:
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how about, him being 6'7" barely 200 lb. freak, of nature? ...averaging 13-15 rebounds per game, for many many years, and shutting down opposition's much bigger front-court players to the tune of 5 championship rings?

Some people feel Dennis isn't as deserving, as let's say Reggie Miller & conveniently played on loaded squads (Pistons, Spurs, Bulls), never having shoulder the load of a team. Kind of similar to Gasol's future situation if he never goes deep in the playoffs after Kobe leaves.

LOL @ niggas being mad nobody cosigned them when they cosigned niggas 7 pages back. That's a female trait.
 
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its over: 2012!;2332151 said:
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how about, him being 6'7" barely 200 lb. freak, of nature? ...averaging 13-15 rebounds per game, for many many years, and shutting down opposition's much bigger front-court players to the tune of 5 championship rings?

Ben Wallace did those same things and he aint gettin in.
 
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