Science delivers another People's Elbow to creationism...T-Rex skull found in Montana

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semi-auto-mato;9281947 said:
Ajackson17;9281889 said:
semi-auto-mato;9281868 said:
Ajackson17;9281857 said:
semi-auto-mato;9281850 said:
Dreams imagination and memory are scientific proof of a souls existence. Science consider these to be independent of the body.

Evolution does not disprove creation. There is an answer both ways for everything. Y'all going back and forth for no reason

Find me a peer review scientific journal that imagination and memory are scientific proof a soul's existence. This can be falsifiable because what is a soul is made up of?

Ok u want me to post a link to a scientific study u already said u will consider false?

Why?

Falsifiable means it can be tested and peer review with tangible evidence and information. Not saying it's false, but it can be proven false if the evidence doesn't hold out.

If a theory doesn’t make a testable prediction, it isn’t science.

It’s a basic axiom of the scientific method, dubbed “falsifiability” by the 20th century philosopher of science Karl Popper. General relativity passes the falsifiability test because, in addition to elegantly accounting for previously-observed phenomena like the precession of Mercury’s orbit, it also made predictions about as-yet-unseen effects—how light should bend around the Sun, the way clocks should seem to run slower in a strong gravitational field, and others that have since been borne out by experiment
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/blogs/physics/2015/02/falsifiability/

start here
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1571064513001188
http://www.zmescience.com/science/science-explains-our-soul/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/biocentrism/201112/does-the-soul-exist-evidence-says-yes
http://humansarefree.com/2015/07/scientific-proof-of-reincarnation-yes.html

i wont ever try to make a person believe something they do not want to believe. im sure we can talk about these links all day and night for the next 20 years. im good with accepting what u believe in as best for u. the belief in God is what is best for me.

I never want to just be satisfied with belief, I want to know, I want the reality, the break down, how to rebuild it.
 
Ajackson17;9282000 said:
semi-auto-mato;9281947 said:
Ajackson17;9281889 said:
semi-auto-mato;9281868 said:
Ajackson17;9281857 said:
semi-auto-mato;9281850 said:
Dreams imagination and memory are scientific proof of a souls existence. Science consider these to be independent of the body.

Evolution does not disprove creation. There is an answer both ways for everything. Y'all going back and forth for no reason

Find me a peer review scientific journal that imagination and memory are scientific proof a soul's existence. This can be falsifiable because what is a soul is made up of?

Ok u want me to post a link to a scientific study u already said u will consider false?

Why?

Falsifiable means it can be tested and peer review with tangible evidence and information. Not saying it's false, but it can be proven false if the evidence doesn't hold out.

If a theory doesn’t make a testable prediction, it isn’t science.

It’s a basic axiom of the scientific method, dubbed “falsifiability” by the 20th century philosopher of science Karl Popper. General relativity passes the falsifiability test because, in addition to elegantly accounting for previously-observed phenomena like the precession of Mercury’s orbit, it also made predictions about as-yet-unseen effects—how light should bend around the Sun, the way clocks should seem to run slower in a strong gravitational field, and others that have since been borne out by experiment
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/blogs/physics/2015/02/falsifiability/

start here
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1571064513001188
http://www.zmescience.com/science/science-explains-our-soul/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/biocentrism/201112/does-the-soul-exist-evidence-says-yes
http://humansarefree.com/2015/07/scientific-proof-of-reincarnation-yes.html

i wont ever try to make a person believe something they do not want to believe. im sure we can talk about these links all day and night for the next 20 years. im good with accepting what u believe in as best for u. the belief in God is what is best for me.

I never want to just be satisfied with belief, I want to know, I want the reality, the break down, how to rebuild it.

i can respect that and whatever it is u believe in i will never tell u that u are wrong.

 
Ajackson17;9281831 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281812 said:
Ajackson17;9281799 said:
For number 5, explain psychopaths their inhibition towards empathy.

The conscience can be seared by continual willful rebellion and unbelief. God will give you over to a reprobate mind when you persist in sin. Amen.

So a child born has no empathy with due to low neurons connecting the neurological part of the brain that controls empathy. So the baby is constantly sinning in the womb then?

"For I was born a sinner--yes, from the moment my mother conceived me."Psalm 51:5

Sin is why babies never see the sun

Sin is why there are still births

Sin is why we all die, wether we are 1 day old, at conception, if we are 30 years old, or 120 years old.

Amen.

 
Ajackson17;9281843 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281840 said:
Ajackson17;9281826 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281805 said:
Ajackson17;9281788 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281773 said:
Ajackson17;9281747 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281717 said:
Ajackson17;9281667 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281636 said:
Ajackson17;9281613 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281585 said:
Ajackson17;9281568 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281560 said:
Ajackson17;9281533 said:
This is why religious zealots are not moving the world into a better place, but a backwards place. He is just like the CEO's who were selling leaded gas and its effects were monstrous and went against the evidence to support that it was global issue and destroying the planet, but you know what, science will prevail due to the intelligent amongst us who have good character and will make sure we humans actually progress.

Where does character come from?

Creating harmonious positive effort with your world around you. Meaning you are going to create disharmony by killing people willy nilly, you are going to create a negative effect stealing from people, you are going to create issues with people by lying on them and so on. Before you say the bible had this, this was written in Egypt and in Africa who didn't have a Christian deity.

It's called self awareness, which we have in our frontal lobe.

What standard are you using to base harmony on?

Does it destroy or does it build. Do you destroy the natural world and a people for capital gain if so, then you are not harmonies you are disharmonious. Do people die so you can elevate your status, then you are destructive or if you elevate your status because you bring people together and for example every tree you cut down you plant another in it's place and know when it's time not to cut down and destroy for the sake of the enviroment that you live.

But whose standard are you basing what harmonious is and how one is to be harmonious?

What is your measuring stick?

My measuring stick is nature and cause and effect which are tools of science and reading history and observing the natural world and compiling a body of work which can be tested and retested and be falsifiable and peer reviewed. That's how we know if something works or not. I had my stuff stolen and been assaulted in a mugging, I personally know how that feels like and what it feels like to be robbed, but this is bigger than just myself, so if everyone stole from each other and robbed and assaulted each other, can we have a community, can we have a safe enviroment in which people can work, build, take care of the children, can we defend ourselves from outside invaders? Questions we must ask and understand logic to see a conclusion.

But who defines safety?

And who said robbery is wrong?

Why did you feel violated when you were robbed?

Where did these feelings of violation come from?

And who decided the standard for right and wrong?

Humans gave the standard of right and wrong. Based on cause and effect. Who created the laws that drunk driving should be illegal? Humans based on what, evidence that it was impairing their cognitive functions and causing accidents and deaths. Who made texting while driving illegal? Humans, why because we cannot multi-task while driving so it's fair in logic that man created the standard against robbery and safety. There are no definitions in the bible for robbery and safety. Did Hammurabi gain his laws from Yahweh? No. Did the Egyptians gain their laws from yahweh? No.

The Israelites were robbing, killing, thieving, raping, and pillaging in Canaan cause they said their God told them it's the right thing to do, but an observant human being wouldn't do such a thing because they know their ways were creating strife in that area in which created disharmonious setting.

Why do humans feel emotional when being robbed, because of the evolutionary cognitive process called flight or fight due to the fact organisms fighting to survive for reproductions when evolutionary pathways create other organisms desire to destroy for substance. In the case of the robber he is looking substance either for food, drugs, or recreational. An illogical man couldn't understand why Robbery is wrong without looking towards a religion.

1. Actually humans didn't give the standards of what is right and what is wrong.

2. God did.

3. Therefore you even saying that there is a wrong means that you are measuring that wrongness against a righteous standard.

4. That righteous standard doesn't come from humans, but from a higher source than humans.

5. That is why you have feelings inside of you. A conscience that condemns you when you do wrong and affirms you when you do right.

6. The conscience is something that transcendes the fleshly plane of our existence, since our conscience resides inside our souls.

7. You are measuring right and wrongness against an absolute standard my friend.

8. That absolute is the All Mighty, the LORD Jesus Christ.

9. That is why you are without excuse because your conscience bears witness against you.

10. Amen.

And this is psychosis, so god created the laws against drunk driving and texting?

Prove that consciousness transcends the biology of humans.

What particles is the soul made of?

1. God created moral laws.

2. He decided what is right and what is wrong.

3. Man didn't become a living soul until God breathed His breath into us. That is how the consciousness of man transcends humanity, for it came from God Himself!

4. Look around the graveyard if you want proof. A body without the soul/conscious is dead.

5. The soul goes to heaven or hell upon death.

6. The soul is made up of the breath of God who gave it.

7. Hallelujah!

You are one crazy dude lol, we are biological organisms that can die from a spine injury, bacteria infection, virus infection, head injury and etc. So any number of ways we can die, does not in fact prove that we have a soul. This is called an Ad Hoc fallacy since you didn't actually give me any evidence for a soul to exist. So you basically gave me speculative answer.

The soul is what gives life to your body. Without it, you die!

Go check the graveyard for proof!

But guess what? It's appointed unto man, once to die, and then the judgment!

Therefore you are guaranteed to have a date with King Jesus one day soon.

Amen.

Then it must have a natural explanation to the human body. That's why I say what particles, what is a soul in a natural understanding.

The soul is invisible. It's like the wind. You know it's there because you can feel it, but you can't see it.
 
babelipsss;9281859 said:
How can anyone be sure God is even interested in humans anymore? I mean he's been absent a long time and things have gone south. According to the Bible he used to come around all the time. He gave guided tours to Adam and Eve, he visited the Virgin Mary on some type of underhanded mission, he even came in the form of a burning bush at one time. Seems like he stopped paying visits right around the time photography was invented.

How is God absent when you got up today?

How is God absent when the sun is still shining today?

How is God absent when the earth is still rotating?

Please do explain....
 
Malcolm Xtra;9282279 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9282113 said:
babelipsss;9281859 said:
How can anyone be sure God is even interested in humans anymore? I mean he's been absent a long time and things have gone south. According to the Bible he used to come around all the time. He gave guided tours to Adam and Eve, he visited the Virgin Mary on some type of underhanded mission, he even came in the form of a burning bush at one time. Seems like he stopped paying visits right around the time photography was invented.

How is God absent when you got up today?

How is God absent when the sun is still shining today?

How is God absent when the earth is still rotating?

Please do explain....

They can't answer that bruh

It's subjective at the root and speculative because god is not falsifiable since we cannot measure nor test god, thus we have no evidence on his existence. Thus, we cannot say this being is the cause and effect of these natural phenomenon.
 
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9282099 said:
Ajackson17;9281843 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281840 said:
Ajackson17;9281826 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281805 said:
Ajackson17;9281788 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281773 said:
Ajackson17;9281747 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281717 said:
Ajackson17;9281667 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281636 said:
Ajackson17;9281613 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281585 said:
Ajackson17;9281568 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281560 said:
Ajackson17;9281533 said:
This is why religious zealots are not moving the world into a better place, but a backwards place. He is just like the CEO's who were selling leaded gas and its effects were monstrous and went against the evidence to support that it was global issue and destroying the planet, but you know what, science will prevail due to the intelligent amongst us who have good character and will make sure we humans actually progress.

Where does character come from?

Creating harmonious positive effort with your world around you. Meaning you are going to create disharmony by killing people willy nilly, you are going to create a negative effect stealing from people, you are going to create issues with people by lying on them and so on. Before you say the bible had this, this was written in Egypt and in Africa who didn't have a Christian deity.

It's called self awareness, which we have in our frontal lobe.

What standard are you using to base harmony on?

Does it destroy or does it build. Do you destroy the natural world and a people for capital gain if so, then you are not harmonies you are disharmonious. Do people die so you can elevate your status, then you are destructive or if you elevate your status because you bring people together and for example every tree you cut down you plant another in it's place and know when it's time not to cut down and destroy for the sake of the enviroment that you live.

But whose standard are you basing what harmonious is and how one is to be harmonious?

What is your measuring stick?

My measuring stick is nature and cause and effect which are tools of science and reading history and observing the natural world and compiling a body of work which can be tested and retested and be falsifiable and peer reviewed. That's how we know if something works or not. I had my stuff stolen and been assaulted in a mugging, I personally know how that feels like and what it feels like to be robbed, but this is bigger than just myself, so if everyone stole from each other and robbed and assaulted each other, can we have a community, can we have a safe enviroment in which people can work, build, take care of the children, can we defend ourselves from outside invaders? Questions we must ask and understand logic to see a conclusion.

But who defines safety?

And who said robbery is wrong?

Why did you feel violated when you were robbed?

Where did these feelings of violation come from?

And who decided the standard for right and wrong?

Humans gave the standard of right and wrong. Based on cause and effect. Who created the laws that drunk driving should be illegal? Humans based on what, evidence that it was impairing their cognitive functions and causing accidents and deaths. Who made texting while driving illegal? Humans, why because we cannot multi-task while driving so it's fair in logic that man created the standard against robbery and safety. There are no definitions in the bible for robbery and safety. Did Hammurabi gain his laws from Yahweh? No. Did the Egyptians gain their laws from yahweh? No.

The Israelites were robbing, killing, thieving, raping, and pillaging in Canaan cause they said their God told them it's the right thing to do, but an observant human being wouldn't do such a thing because they know their ways were creating strife in that area in which created disharmonious setting.

Why do humans feel emotional when being robbed, because of the evolutionary cognitive process called flight or fight due to the fact organisms fighting to survive for reproductions when evolutionary pathways create other organisms desire to destroy for substance. In the case of the robber he is looking substance either for food, drugs, or recreational. An illogical man couldn't understand why Robbery is wrong without looking towards a religion.

1. Actually humans didn't give the standards of what is right and what is wrong.

2. God did.

3. Therefore you even saying that there is a wrong means that you are measuring that wrongness against a righteous standard.

4. That righteous standard doesn't come from humans, but from a higher source than humans.

5. That is why you have feelings inside of you. A conscience that condemns you when you do wrong and affirms you when you do right.

6. The conscience is something that transcendes the fleshly plane of our existence, since our conscience resides inside our souls.

7. You are measuring right and wrongness against an absolute standard my friend.

8. That absolute is the All Mighty, the LORD Jesus Christ.

9. That is why you are without excuse because your conscience bears witness against you.

10. Amen.

And this is psychosis, so god created the laws against drunk driving and texting?

Prove that consciousness transcends the biology of humans.

What particles is the soul made of?

1. God created moral laws.

2. He decided what is right and what is wrong.

3. Man didn't become a living soul until God breathed His breath into us. That is how the consciousness of man transcends humanity, for it came from God Himself!

4. Look around the graveyard if you want proof. A body without the soul/conscious is dead.

5. The soul goes to heaven or hell upon death.

6. The soul is made up of the breath of God who gave it.

7. Hallelujah!

You are one crazy dude lol, we are biological organisms that can die from a spine injury, bacteria infection, virus infection, head injury and etc. So any number of ways we can die, does not in fact prove that we have a soul. This is called an Ad Hoc fallacy since you didn't actually give me any evidence for a soul to exist. So you basically gave me speculative answer.

The soul is what gives life to your body. Without it, you die!

Go check the graveyard for proof!

But guess what? It's appointed unto man, once to die, and then the judgment!

Therefore you are guaranteed to have a date with King Jesus one day soon.

Amen.

Then it must have a natural explanation to the human body. That's why I say what particles, what is a soul in a natural understanding.

The soul is invisible. It's like the wind. You know it's there because you can feel it, but you can't see it.

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Meester;9282384 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281190 said:
VulcanRaven;9281165 said:
Science always wins. Biology is science and that explains how life works.

If biology explains how life works, well then explain why you are evil?

I like how nobody found this answer yet.

evil is subjective

it's a retarded fuckin question
 
Malcolm Xtra;9282322 said:
Ajackson17;9282282 said:
Malcolm Xtra;9282279 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9282113 said:
babelipsss;9281859 said:
How can anyone be sure God is even interested in humans anymore? I mean he's been absent a long time and things have gone south. According to the Bible he used to come around all the time. He gave guided tours to Adam and Eve, he visited the Virgin Mary on some type of underhanded mission, he even came in the form of a burning bush at one time. Seems like he stopped paying visits right around the time photography was invented.

How is God absent when you got up today?

How is God absent when the sun is still shining today?

How is God absent when the earth is still rotating?

Please do explain....

They can't answer that bruh

It's subjective at the root and speculative because god is not falsifiable since we cannot measure nor test god, thus we have no evidence on his existence. Thus, we cannot say this being is the cause and effect of these natural phenomenon.

Your problem is how you choose to define "God"

Whatever's repsonsible for the laws that makes the sun rise everyday and keeps the planet rotating is "God".

"God" is the only reason you are allowed still breath and your heart to continue to beat....

Y'all niggas are disrespectful and arrogant.

You cannot say something is the cause without empirical data and I'm arrogant for not making a claim that I cannot validate without evidence. The first instance of God came from my grandmother without evidence of ever meeting so called creator. That is not evidence.
http://m.phys.org/news/2013-07-scientific-evidence.html
 
Meester;9282384 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven;9281190 said:
VulcanRaven;9281165 said:
Science always wins. Biology is science and that explains how life works.

If biology explains how life works, well then explain why you are evil?

I like how nobody found this answer yet.

Cause evil is a philosophy because not worshipping Yahweh or Allah is consider evil depending on the religion of who is calling you that. Then it becomes a philosophical take on reality because it's not rooted in something that can be quantified through data.
 
Imo, we are evil because both good and evil were created for us to experience just like everything else that was created. What need is there of freewill if there is nothing to choose between?
 

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