Science delivers another People's Elbow to creationism...T-Rex skull found in Montana

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Lol, if you don't believe on a man that walked on water, controlled weather, raise people from the dead, rose from the dead himself, cast out spooky monsters, say words and killed a plants....but the bigger drop is that his followers were suppose to do more miracles than him, but show me a video of you walking on water on faith.....

I got out the boat my friend! Hallelujah! I travel the world preaching the gospel! Hallelujah!

How? By faith!

Why? Because Jesus said greater things His disciples would do in His name!

Hallelujah!

Missionaries go out preaching all the time, ain't nothing new or extraordinary by that. That's a profession, like archaeologist go out in the world and investigate ancient sites all the time, ain't nothing new.

Yeah and Yeshua was only preaching in Israel, a tiny strip of land no bigger than New Jersey! But yet He said that after He ascended on high and sent back the Holy Spirit, greater things would be done in His name by His true disciples! And part of those greater things is taking the gospel to the whole world so that every creature under heaven will have a chance to hear that Jesus Christ is Savior and then the end will come! Amen.

Do you know Him?

And that could be easily written by people to spread a story.

In that era, there was plenty of people against the Roman empire and he could easily be fusion of different people and then given supernatural powers to fit a story. Like Odin being an ancient norse king and then being defied after he died.

Jesus Christ lives forever and His word has come to pass! Hallelujah! And just like He told His followers that they would do greater things in His name after He ascended back to heaven, He also warned us of people like you who would deny the faith.

For He proclaimed that the wheat and the tares would grow together. Yes, He said that the sheep and the goats would be together until the end of the age. Amen.

But at the end the sheep will be separated from the goats and the wheat will be separated from the tares. Amen.

 

[Ajackson17]

This is why religious zealots are not moving the world into a better place, but a backwards place. He is just like the CEO's who were selling leaded gas and its effects were monstrous and went against the evidence to support that it was global issue and destroying the planet, but you know what, science will prevail due to the intelligent amongst us who have good character and will make sure we humans actually progress.

Where does character come from?

Creating harmonious positive effort with your world around you. Meaning you are going to create disharmony by killing people willy nilly, you are going to create a negative effect stealing from people, you are going to create issues with people by lying on them and so on. Before you say the bible had this, this was written in Egypt and in Africa who didn't have a Christian deity.

It's called self awareness, which we have in our frontal lobe.

What standard are you using to base harmony on?

Does it destroy or does it build. Do you destroy the natural world and a people for capital gain if so, then you are not harmonies you are disharmonious. Do people die so you can elevate your status, then you are destructive or if you elevate your status because you bring people together and for example every tree you cut down you plant another in it's place and know when it's time not to cut down and destroy for the sake of the enviroment that you live.

But whose standard are you basing what harmonious is and how one is to be harmonious?

What is your measuring stick?

My measuring stick is nature and cause and effect which are tools of science and reading history and observing the natural world and compiling a body of work which can be tested and retested and be falsifiable and peer reviewed. That's how we know if something works or not. I had my stuff stolen and been assaulted in a mugging, I personally know how that feels like and what it feels like to be robbed, but this is bigger than just myself, so if everyone stole from each other and robbed and assaulted each other, can we have a community, can we have a safe enviroment in which people can work, build, take care of the children, can we defend ourselves from outside invaders? Questions we must ask and understand logic to see a conclusion.

 

[Ajackson17]

Lol, if you don't believe on a man that walked on water, controlled weather, raise people from the dead, rose from the dead himself, cast out spooky monsters, say words and killed a plants....but the bigger drop is that his followers were suppose to do more miracles than him, but show me a video of you walking on water on faith.....

I got out the boat my friend! Hallelujah! I travel the world preaching the gospel! Hallelujah!

How? By faith!

Why? Because Jesus said greater things His disciples would do in His name!

Hallelujah!

Missionaries go out preaching all the time, ain't nothing new or extraordinary by that. That's a profession, like archaeologist go out in the world and investigate ancient sites all the time, ain't nothing new.

Yeah and Yeshua was only preaching in Israel, a tiny strip of land no bigger than New Jersey! But yet He said that after He ascended on high and sent back the Holy Spirit, greater things would be done in His name by His true disciples! And part of those greater things is taking the gospel to the whole world so that every creature under heaven will have a chance to hear that Jesus Christ is Savior and then the end will come! Amen.

Do you know Him?

And that could be easily written by people to spread a story.

In that era, there was plenty of people against the Roman empire and he could easily be fusion of different people and then given supernatural powers to fit a story. Like Odin being an ancient norse king and then being defied after he died.

Jesus Christ lives forever and His word has come to pass! Hallelujah! And just like He told His followers that they would do greater things in His name after He ascended back to heaven, He also warned us of people like you who would deny the faith.

For He proclaimed that the wheat and the tares would grow together. Yes, He said that the sheep and the goats would be together until the end of the age. Amen.

But at the end the sheep will be separated from the goats and the wheat will be separated from the tares. Amen.

That's not evidence at all.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

When has somebody ever planted a grain of wheat and reaped a corn harvest from it?

Please explain @kingblaze84 @Ajackson17 @not_osirus_jenkins @dwade206 @nawledge_god @VIBE

Listen man, maybe there is a God. Personally I think if he does exist he's a piece of shit. He is catty, he is jealous, he is vengeful, always looking through your shit. Irrational and an overall jerk. My ant farm is more of a utopia then this shit he created and I created my ant farm. If you have to explain your god so feverishly then that means the lack of evidence for him is astonishing, especially when he can bellow 3 words and everyone will fall in line. I AM HERE. That's all it would have to say, but no, he doesn't cuz he isn't real.

1. Woe is me if I preach not the gospel my friend.

2. I was fervently serving the devil before I knew Christ, but now I will fervently serve Jesus Christ forever! Hallelujah.

3. But how then will you call on Him in whom you have not believed? And how are you to believe in Him of whom you have never heard? And how are you to hear without someone preaching? And how am I to preach unless I am sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!”

4. That is why I must tell you that Jesus Christ loves you!

5. Like a Father pities His children so the LORD pities those who fear Him!

Hallelujah!

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

creation vs evolution...the never ending battle. the funny thing is evolution doesn't disprove creation and creation doesn't disprove evolution. another t rex skull was found and we all know lucy was found many years ago. that doesn't mean that God is not the cause of our existence. so dinosaurs ruled the earth and we came from primates. why would God create beings that couldn't evolve for survival?

1. Because the Bible says everything produces after its kind!

2. If you say otherwise you are calling God a liar!

3. If you say otherwise you are denying science!

4. If you plant tomatoes you will not reap squash!

5. I mean get a grip.

6. It's either revelation or speculation.

7. It's that simple.

Amen.

to populate the earth. humans are primates so ur statement would still be true under both the creation and evolution theory.

evolution is nothing more than diversity with a purpose. we are taller, bigger, faster, and stronger now. we have evolved. ur kids are evolving in front of ur eyes.

1. No my daughter is growing.

2. When God became a man, the Bible says He grew. He didn't evolve. "And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man." Luke 2:52

3. Likewise when kids are mentioned as maturing in age they are said to grow, not elvove. "Now the boy Samuel was growing in stature and in favor both with the LORD and with men." 1 Samuel 2:26

4. When people start talking about evolution they mean a change in species on a Macro scale.

5. Change within a species on a micro scale is a given.

6. But everything produces after its own kind.

7. This is observed everyday around the world.

8. But yet a change from a monkey to a human has never been observed.

9. A change from a dolphin to a lizard has never been observed

10. A change from a hippo to a giraffe has never been observed.

11. So please miss me with Evolution.

12. I believe God, the Lord Jesus Christ. amen!

smh...u know I actually believe in God and the creation theory but how can we be so stuck on our own beliefs that we cannot consider others? I don't see creation vs evolution as one right and the other being wrong.

growth is change right now. evolution is change over generations. evolution does not mean the creation of a new species. kids are bigger, taller, faster, stronger than we were and our parents and our grandparents. study their DNA. that is evolution. stop thinking evolution is growing a second thumb.

creationist vs evolutionist try to mock each other and show that their beliefs is superior when they don't actually prove that neither is wrong. evolution does not mean there isn't a God. creation does not mean we don't evolve.

1. Again if you are going to speak about evolution be specific because the majority of people only understand evolution as a change from one species into another completely new/different species.

2. Micro evolution is easily identifiable by observation.

3. Macro evolution on the other hand has never been observed. It goes against science. True Science only deals with what can be observed and tested.

4. Therefore macro evolution is junk science filled with speculations, postulations, and a lot of hot air out of the backsides of God haters. Amen.

macroevolution has happened. homo erectus would be an example of macroevolution in science. the difference between microevolution and macroevolution is usually time. there are plenty of examples of macroevolution in the human species

No it hasn't. Man is seperate from all other creatures in that he is created in the image and after the likeness of God. Human skeletons that have been found with bigger jaws or skulls are humans that lived long life spans just like the Bible said. Miss me with this nonsense of humans evolving from some different species! Every human being who has ever lived are desandants of Adam and Eve. And if you don't trust in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will go to hell. And that's the bottom line. Amen.

the reason religion and politics are a problem is because everyone wants to be right. how can u be on a quest for knowledge if u are only open to ur religious beliefs? I am Christian. I believe in the bible. I actually don't believe in evolution. I definitely don't believe the earth is billions and billions of years old. i still try to understand what it is they are saying. u are no better than the evolutionist who call us crazy for believing that God said let there be light and there was.

miss me is not a valid argument for the creation theory. its a emotional statement one makes when others don't accept their beliefs. u are better than that. u know the bible well enough to not limit ur interpretation of his image to only physical.

i do not know what adam and eve looked like. science tries to do reconstruction of early humans but they may be way off. the idea that adam and eve looked exactly like we do now is up for debate. i mean seriously u don't think we have changed over all these years? do u think God is 6 3 about 240? there is no description of image but i would guess it means we are of an higher order of all created things. our bodies are very different in look. we are tall and short, skinny and fat, muscular and flabby with different size feet and different noses. our cheek bones are different and eye spacing different. our head sizes are different. we are all unique so to limit his image to physical is to read the bible completely wrong.

and yes every human that has ever lived is a descendant of adam and eve. i don't believe anything else but that.

1. Well since you are a believer you should know that we are to earnestly contend for the faith that was once and for all entrusted to all the saints of God my friend.

2. That is why I rebuke nonsense.

3. And to be made in the image and after the likeness of God has to do with our soul, which is made up of our mind, will, and emotions.

4. We have wills unlike animals who only act on instinct.

5. Animals don't have the ability to think abstractlly. They don't have the ability to contemplate God. They don't have the ability to choose to love or hate God.

6. That is why we are humans and animals are animals. They are in cages and we are not. We rule over the animals, animals don't rule over us.

7. To degrade ourselves and say that we are evolved from animals is a slap in the face of God.

8. God bless you my friend and keep serving the LORD with joy and gladness. Amen.

 

[VIBE]

Why try to talk any sense into DoU? He's where is he, he ain't gonna change. He's got tunnel vision. It's pointless to go back and forth w this dude. It's a waste of your time and energy.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

This is why religious zealots are not moving the world into a better place, but a backwards place. He is just like the CEO's who were selling leaded gas and its effects were monstrous and went against the evidence to support that it was global issue and destroying the planet, but you know what, science will prevail due to the intelligent amongst us who have good character and will make sure we humans actually progress.

Where does character come from?

Creating harmonious positive effort with your world around you. Meaning you are going to create disharmony by killing people willy nilly, you are going to create a negative effect stealing from people, you are going to create issues with people by lying on them and so on. Before you say the bible had this, this was written in Egypt and in Africa who didn't have a Christian deity.

It's called self awareness, which we have in our frontal lobe.

What standard are you using to base harmony on?

Does it destroy or does it build. Do you destroy the natural world and a people for capital gain if so, then you are not harmonies you are disharmonious. Do people die so you can elevate your status, then you are destructive or if you elevate your status because you bring people together and for example every tree you cut down you plant another in it's place and know when it's time not to cut down and destroy for the sake of the enviroment that you live.

But whose standard are you basing what harmonious is and how one is to be harmonious?

What is your measuring stick?

My measuring stick is nature and cause and effect which are tools of science and reading history and observing the natural world and compiling a body of work which can be tested and retested and be falsifiable and peer reviewed. That's how we know if something works or not. I had my stuff stolen and been assaulted in a mugging, I personally know how that feels like and what it feels like to be robbed, but this is bigger than just myself, so if everyone stole from each other and robbed and assaulted each other, can we have a community, can we have a safe enviroment in which people can work, build, take care of the children, can we defend ourselves from outside invaders? Questions we must ask and understand logic to see a conclusion.

But who defines safety?

And who said robbery is wrong?

Why did you feel violated when you were robbed?

Where did these feelings of violation come from?

And who decided the standard for right and wrong?

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Lol, if you don't believe on a man that walked on water, controlled weather, raise people from the dead, rose from the dead himself, cast out spooky monsters, say words and killed a plants....but the bigger drop is that his followers were suppose to do more miracles than him, but show me a video of you walking on water on faith.....

I got out the boat my friend! Hallelujah! I travel the world preaching the gospel! Hallelujah!

How? By faith!

Why? Because Jesus said greater things His disciples would do in His name!

Hallelujah!

Missionaries go out preaching all the time, ain't nothing new or extraordinary by that. That's a profession, like archaeologist go out in the world and investigate ancient sites all the time, ain't nothing new.

Yeah and Yeshua was only preaching in Israel, a tiny strip of land no bigger than New Jersey! But yet He said that after He ascended on high and sent back the Holy Spirit, greater things would be done in His name by His true disciples! And part of those greater things is taking the gospel to the whole world so that every creature under heaven will have a chance to hear that Jesus Christ is Savior and then the end will come! Amen.

Do you know Him?

And that could be easily written by people to spread a story.

In that era, there was plenty of people against the Roman empire and he could easily be fusion of different people and then given supernatural powers to fit a story. Like Odin being an ancient norse king and then being defied after he died.

Jesus Christ lives forever and His word has come to pass! Hallelujah! And just like He told His followers that they would do greater things in His name after He ascended back to heaven, He also warned us of people like you who would deny the faith.

For He proclaimed that the wheat and the tares would grow together. Yes, He said that the sheep and the goats would be together until the end of the age. Amen.

But at the end the sheep will be separated from the goats and the wheat will be separated from the tares. Amen.

That's not evidence at all.

You speaking about Jesus right now tells me otherwise. Amen.

 

[zzombie]

evolution does not conflict with my religious beliefs at all

A lot of the beef between creationist and evolutionist comes from the former group taking a literal stance on their understanding of the book of genesis. Why some christians take genesis literally when even most Jewish sects don't is beyond me, jews have a historical tradition of a metaphorical understanding of certain aspect of genesis.

and some of the most important early church theologians also left the issue of "age" of the earth open to interpreation

 

[Ajackson17]

Why try to talk any sense into DoU? He's where is he, he ain't gonna change. He's got tunnel vision. It's pointless to go back and forth w this dude. It's a waste of your time and energy.

It's not really for him, he is set, but it's for the people who are reading this. They need to understand the difference between belief and evidence if they are somewhat confused on that part and want to really learn. Even if they don't agree with evolution at the very least have an educated understanding of what it truly is.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Why try to talk any sense into DoU? He's where is he, he ain't gonna change. He's got tunnel vision. It's pointless to go back and forth w this dude. It's a waste of your time and energy.

Thank God that I have been born again and my sense comes from Him! The Holy Spirit had made me alive and now I have the power to move mountains in Jesus Name.

But as for you? How will you call on Him in whom you have not believed? And how are you to believe in Him of whom you have never heard? And how are you to hear without someone preaching? And how am I to preach unless I am sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!”

Therefore repent and believe the gospel @VIBE!

Jesus Christ loves you my friend. He made you, your wife, your kids, and everybody else who has ever lived! Hallelujah! Turn to Him and be saved! Don't be selfish! Give your heart to Christ and be a man! Show yourself a man of God my friend! Yes, be strong and very courageous! Amen!

 

[Ajackson17]

This is why religious zealots are not moving the world into a better place, but a backwards place. He is just like the CEO's who were selling leaded gas and its effects were monstrous and went against the evidence to support that it was global issue and destroying the planet, but you know what, science will prevail due to the intelligent amongst us who have good character and will make sure we humans actually progress.

Where does character come from?

Creating harmonious positive effort with your world around you. Meaning you are going to create disharmony by killing people willy nilly, you are going to create a negative effect stealing from people, you are going to create issues with people by lying on them and so on. Before you say the bible had this, this was written in Egypt and in Africa who didn't have a Christian deity.

It's called self awareness, which we have in our frontal lobe.

What standard are you using to base harmony on?

Does it destroy or does it build. Do you destroy the natural world and a people for capital gain if so, then you are not harmonies you are disharmonious. Do people die so you can elevate your status, then you are destructive or if you elevate your status because you bring people together and for example every tree you cut down you plant another in it's place and know when it's time not to cut down and destroy for the sake of the enviroment that you live.

But whose standard are you basing what harmonious is and how one is to be harmonious?

What is your measuring stick?

My measuring stick is nature and cause and effect which are tools of science and reading history and observing the natural world and compiling a body of work which can be tested and retested and be falsifiable and peer reviewed. That's how we know if something works or not. I had my stuff stolen and been assaulted in a mugging, I personally know how that feels like and what it feels like to be robbed, but this is bigger than just myself, so if everyone stole from each other and robbed and assaulted each other, can we have a community, can we have a safe enviroment in which people can work, build, take care of the children, can we defend ourselves from outside invaders? Questions we must ask and understand logic to see a conclusion.

But who defines safety?

And who said robbery is wrong?

Why did you feel violated when you were robbed?

Where did these feelings of violation come from?

And who decided the standard for right and wrong?

Humans gave the standard of right and wrong. Based on cause and effect. Who created the laws that drunk driving should be illegal? Humans based on what, evidence that it was impairing their cognitive functions and causing accidents and deaths. Who made texting while driving illegal? Humans, why because we cannot multi-task while driving so it's fair in logic that man created the standard against robbery and safety. There are no definitions in the bible for robbery and safety. Did Hammurabi gain his laws from Yahweh? No. Did the Egyptians gain their laws from yahweh? No.

The Israelites were robbing, killing, thieving, raping, and pillaging in Canaan cause they said their God told them it's the right thing to do, but an observant human being wouldn't do such a thing because they know their ways were creating strife in that area in which created disharmonious setting.

Why do humans feel emotional when being robbed, because of the evolutionary cognitive process called flight or fight due to the fact organisms fighting to survive for reproductions when evolutionary pathways create other organisms desire to destroy for substance. In the case of the robber he is looking substance either for food, drugs, or recreational. An illogical man couldn't understand why Robbery is wrong without looking towards a religion.

 

[_God_]

Fake

 

[Ajackson17]

evolution does not conflict with my religious beliefs at all

A lot of the beef between creationist and evolutionist comes from the former group taking a literal stance on their understanding of the book of genesis. Why some christians take genesis literally when even most Jewish sects don't is beyond me, jews have a historical tradition of a metaphorical understanding of certain aspect of genesis.

and some of the most important early church theologians also left the issue of "age" of the earth open to interpreation

I have a book on that genesis was a poem song at camp fires and it was designed not to be literal but an overall appreciation of Yahweh.

That's what happens when you don't research. Most staunch believers of Judiasm don't even deny evolution or deny the sciences.

I been said be a believer it's fine, but don't deny the evidence and information and call it a lie when it doesn't agree on how you perceive the world.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

This is why religious zealots are not moving the world into a better place, but a backwards place. He is just like the CEO's who were selling leaded gas and its effects were monstrous and went against the evidence to support that it was global issue and destroying the planet, but you know what, science will prevail due to the intelligent amongst us who have good character and will make sure we humans actually progress.

Where does character come from?

Creating harmonious positive effort with your world around you. Meaning you are going to create disharmony by killing people willy nilly, you are going to create a negative effect stealing from people, you are going to create issues with people by lying on them and so on. Before you say the bible had this, this was written in Egypt and in Africa who didn't have a Christian deity.

It's called self awareness, which we have in our frontal lobe.

What standard are you using to base harmony on?

Does it destroy or does it build. Do you destroy the natural world and a people for capital gain if so, then you are not harmonies you are disharmonious. Do people die so you can elevate your status, then you are destructive or if you elevate your status because you bring people together and for example every tree you cut down you plant another in it's place and know when it's time not to cut down and destroy for the sake of the enviroment that you live.

But whose standard are you basing what harmonious is and how one is to be harmonious?

What is your measuring stick?

My measuring stick is nature and cause and effect which are tools of science and reading history and observing the natural world and compiling a body of work which can be tested and retested and be falsifiable and peer reviewed. That's how we know if something works or not. I had my stuff stolen and been assaulted in a mugging, I personally know how that feels like and what it feels like to be robbed, but this is bigger than just myself, so if everyone stole from each other and robbed and assaulted each other, can we have a community, can we have a safe enviroment in which people can work, build, take care of the children, can we defend ourselves from outside invaders? Questions we must ask and understand logic to see a conclusion.

But who defines safety?

And who said robbery is wrong?

Why did you feel violated when you were robbed?

Where did these feelings of violation come from?

And who decided the standard for right and wrong?

Humans gave the standard of right and wrong. Based on cause and effect. Who created the laws that drunk driving should be illegal? Humans based on what, evidence that it was impairing their cognitive functions and causing accidents and deaths. Who made texting while driving illegal? Humans, why because we cannot multi-task while driving so it's fair in logic that man created the standard against robbery and safety. There are no definitions in the bible for robbery and safety. Did Hammurabi gain his laws from Yahweh? No. Did the Egyptians gain their laws from yahweh? No.

The Israelites were robbing, killing, thieving, raping, and pillaging in Canaan cause they said their God told them it's the right thing to do, but an observant human being wouldn't do such a thing because they know their ways were creating strife in that area in which created disharmonious setting.

Why do humans feel emotional when being robbed, because of the evolutionary cognitive process called flight or fight due to the fact organisms fighting to survive for reproductions when evolutionary pathways create other organisms desire to destroy for substance. In the case of the robber he is looking substance either for food, drugs, or recreational. An illogical man couldn't understand why Robbery is wrong without looking towards a religion.

1. Actually humans didn't give the standards of what is right and what is wrong.

2. God did.

3. Therefore you even saying that there is a wrong means that you are measuring that wrongness against a righteous standard.

4. That righteous standard doesn't come from humans, but from a higher source than humans.

5. That is why you have feelings inside of you. A conscience that condemns you when you do wrong and affirms you when you do right.

6. The conscience is something that transcendes the fleshly plane of our existence, since our conscience resides inside our souls.

7. You are measuring right and wrongness against an absolute standard my friend.

8. That absolute is the All Mighty, the LORD Jesus Christ.

9. That is why you are without excuse because your conscience bears witness against you.

10. Amen.

 

[semi-auto-mato]

creation vs evolution...the never ending battle. the funny thing is evolution doesn't disprove creation and creation doesn't disprove evolution. another t rex skull was found and we all know lucy was found many years ago. that doesn't mean that God is not the cause of our existence. so dinosaurs ruled the earth and we came from primates. why would God create beings that couldn't evolve for survival?

1. Because the Bible says everything produces after its kind!

2. If you say otherwise you are calling God a liar!

3. If you say otherwise you are denying science!

4. If you plant tomatoes you will not reap squash!

5. I mean get a grip.

6. It's either revelation or speculation.

7. It's that simple.

Amen.

to populate the earth. humans are primates so ur statement would still be true under both the creation and evolution theory.

evolution is nothing more than diversity with a purpose. we are taller, bigger, faster, and stronger now. we have evolved. ur kids are evolving in front of ur eyes.

1. No my daughter is growing.

2. When God became a man, the Bible says He grew. He didn't evolve. "And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man." Luke 2:52

3. Likewise when kids are mentioned as maturing in age they are said to grow, not elvove. "Now the boy Samuel was growing in stature and in favor both with the LORD and with men." 1 Samuel 2:26

4. When people start talking about evolution they mean a change in species on a Macro scale.

5. Change within a species on a micro scale is a given.

6. But everything produces after its own kind.

7. This is observed everyday around the world.

8. But yet a change from a monkey to a human has never been observed.

9. A change from a dolphin to a lizard has never been observed

10. A change from a hippo to a giraffe has never been observed.

11. So please miss me with Evolution.

12. I believe God, the Lord Jesus Christ. amen!

smh...u know I actually believe in God and the creation theory but how can we be so stuck on our own beliefs that we cannot consider others? I don't see creation vs evolution as one right and the other being wrong.

growth is change right now. evolution is change over generations. evolution does not mean the creation of a new species. kids are bigger, taller, faster, stronger than we were and our parents and our grandparents. study their DNA. that is evolution. stop thinking evolution is growing a second thumb.

creationist vs evolutionist try to mock each other and show that their beliefs is superior when they don't actually prove that neither is wrong. evolution does not mean there isn't a God. creation does not mean we don't evolve.

1. Again if you are going to speak about evolution be specific because the majority of people only understand evolution as a change from one species into another completely new/different species.

2. Micro evolution is easily identifiable by observation.

3. Macro evolution on the other hand has never been observed. It goes against science. True Science only deals with what can be observed and tested.

4. Therefore macro evolution is junk science filled with speculations, postulations, and a lot of hot air out of the backsides of God haters. Amen.

macroevolution has happened. homo erectus would be an example of macroevolution in science. the difference between microevolution and macroevolution is usually time. there are plenty of examples of macroevolution in the human species

No it hasn't. Man is seperate from all other creatures in that he is created in the image and after the likeness of God. Human skeletons that have been found with bigger jaws or skulls are humans that lived long life spans just like the Bible said. Miss me with this nonsense of humans evolving from some different species! Every human being who has ever lived are desandants of Adam and Eve. And if you don't trust in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will go to hell. And that's the bottom line. Amen.

the reason religion and politics are a problem is because everyone wants to be right. how can u be on a quest for knowledge if u are only open to ur religious beliefs? I am Christian. I believe in the bible. I actually don't believe in evolution. I definitely don't believe the earth is billions and billions of years old. i still try to understand what it is they are saying. u are no better than the evolutionist who call us crazy for believing that God said let there be light and there was.

miss me is not a valid argument for the creation theory. its a emotional statement one makes when others don't accept their beliefs. u are better than that. u know the bible well enough to not limit ur interpretation of his image to only physical.

i do not know what adam and eve looked like. science tries to do reconstruction of early humans but they may be way off. the idea that adam and eve looked exactly like we do now is up for debate. i mean seriously u don't think we have changed over all these years? do u think God is 6 3 about 240? there is no description of image but i would guess it means we are of an higher order of all created things. our bodies are very different in look. we are tall and short, skinny and fat, muscular and flabby with different size feet and different noses. our cheek bones are different and eye spacing different. our head sizes are different. we are all unique so to limit his image to physical is to read the bible completely wrong.

and yes every human that has ever lived is a descendant of adam and eve. i don't believe anything else but that.

1. Well since you are a believer you should know that we are to earnestly contend for the faith that was once and for all entrusted to all the saints of God my friend.

2. That is why I rebuke nonsense.

3. And to be made in the image and after the likeness of God has to do with our soul, which is made up of our mind, will, and emotions.

4. We have wills unlike animals who only act on instinct.

5. Animals don't have the ability to think abstractlly. They don't have the ability to contemplate God. They don't have the ability to choose to love or hate God.

6. That is why we are humans and animals are animals. They are in cages and we are not. We rule over the animals, animals don't rule over us.

7. To degrade ourselves and say that we are evolved from animals is a slap in the face of God.

8. God bless you my friend and keep serving the LORD with joy and gladness. Amen.

So basically u take issue with the idea we evolved from animals but understand evolution is possible?

I don't take offense to it cuz in no way does it disprove God. As my mom always said...I ain't come from no monkey

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

creation vs evolution...the never ending battle. the funny thing is evolution doesn't disprove creation and creation doesn't disprove evolution. another t rex skull was found and we all know lucy was found many years ago. that doesn't mean that God is not the cause of our existence. so dinosaurs ruled the earth and we came from primates. why would God create beings that couldn't evolve for survival?

1. Because the Bible says everything produces after its kind!

2. If you say otherwise you are calling God a liar!

3. If you say otherwise you are denying science!

4. If you plant tomatoes you will not reap squash!

5. I mean get a grip.

6. It's either revelation or speculation.

7. It's that simple.

Amen.

to populate the earth. humans are primates so ur statement would still be true under both the creation and evolution theory.

evolution is nothing more than diversity with a purpose. we are taller, bigger, faster, and stronger now. we have evolved. ur kids are evolving in front of ur eyes.

1. No my daughter is growing.

2. When God became a man, the Bible says He grew. He didn't evolve. "And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and man." Luke 2:52

3. Likewise when kids are mentioned as maturing in age they are said to grow, not elvove. "Now the boy Samuel was growing in stature and in favor both with the LORD and with men." 1 Samuel 2:26

4. When people start talking about evolution they mean a change in species on a Macro scale.

5. Change within a species on a micro scale is a given.

6. But everything produces after its own kind.

7. This is observed everyday around the world.

8. But yet a change from a monkey to a human has never been observed.

9. A change from a dolphin to a lizard has never been observed

10. A change from a hippo to a giraffe has never been observed.

11. So please miss me with Evolution.

12. I believe God, the Lord Jesus Christ. amen!

smh...u know I actually believe in God and the creation theory but how can we be so stuck on our own beliefs that we cannot consider others? I don't see creation vs evolution as one right and the other being wrong.

growth is change right now. evolution is change over generations. evolution does not mean the creation of a new species. kids are bigger, taller, faster, stronger than we were and our parents and our grandparents. study their DNA. that is evolution. stop thinking evolution is growing a second thumb.

creationist vs evolutionist try to mock each other and show that their beliefs is superior when they don't actually prove that neither is wrong. evolution does not mean there isn't a God. creation does not mean we don't evolve.

1. Again if you are going to speak about evolution be specific because the majority of people only understand evolution as a change from one species into another completely new/different species.

2. Micro evolution is easily identifiable by observation.

3. Macro evolution on the other hand has never been observed. It goes against science. True Science only deals with what can be observed and tested.

4. Therefore macro evolution is junk science filled with speculations, postulations, and a lot of hot air out of the backsides of God haters. Amen.

macroevolution has happened. homo erectus would be an example of macroevolution in science. the difference between microevolution and macroevolution is usually time. there are plenty of examples of macroevolution in the human species

No it hasn't. Man is seperate from all other creatures in that he is created in the image and after the likeness of God. Human skeletons that have been found with bigger jaws or skulls are humans that lived long life spans just like the Bible said. Miss me with this nonsense of humans evolving from some different species! Every human being who has ever lived are desandants of Adam and Eve. And if you don't trust in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will go to hell. And that's the bottom line. Amen.

the reason religion and politics are a problem is because everyone wants to be right. how can u be on a quest for knowledge if u are only open to ur religious beliefs? I am Christian. I believe in the bible. I actually don't believe in evolution. I definitely don't believe the earth is billions and billions of years old. i still try to understand what it is they are saying. u are no better than the evolutionist who call us crazy for believing that God said let there be light and there was.

miss me is not a valid argument for the creation theory. its a emotional statement one makes when others don't accept their beliefs. u are better than that. u know the bible well enough to not limit ur interpretation of his image to only physical.

i do not know what adam and eve looked like. science tries to do reconstruction of early humans but they may be way off. the idea that adam and eve looked exactly like we do now is up for debate. i mean seriously u don't think we have changed over all these years? do u think God is 6 3 about 240? there is no description of image but i would guess it means we are of an higher order of all created things. our bodies are very different in look. we are tall and short, skinny and fat, muscular and flabby with different size feet and different noses. our cheek bones are different and eye spacing different. our head sizes are different. we are all unique so to limit his image to physical is to read the bible completely wrong.

and yes every human that has ever lived is a descendant of adam and eve. i don't believe anything else but that.

1. Well since you are a believer you should know that we are to earnestly contend for the faith that was once and for all entrusted to all the saints of God my friend.

2. That is why I rebuke nonsense.

3. And to be made in the image and after the likeness of God has to do with our soul, which is made up of our mind, will, and emotions.

4. We have wills unlike animals who only act on instinct.

5. Animals don't have the ability to think abstractlly. They don't have the ability to contemplate God. They don't have the ability to choose to love or hate God.

6. That is why we are humans and animals are animals. They are in cages and we are not. We rule over the animals, animals don't rule over us.

7. To degrade ourselves and say that we are evolved from animals is a slap in the face of God.

8. God bless you my friend and keep serving the LORD with joy and gladness. Amen.

So basically u take issue with the idea we evolved from animals but understand evolution is possible?

I don't take offense to it cuz in no way does it disprove God. As my mom always said...I ain't come from no monkey

1. Yes I do take issue with humans coming from animals because it goes against the first 2 chapters of the Bible. It also goes against reason, logic, and observation.

2. I have no problem of changes happening within a species. If people want to call that micro-evolution, fine.

3. But I totally abhor macro evolution. It's absolute hog wash.

4. God bless you.

 

[Ajackson17]

This is why religious zealots are not moving the world into a better place, but a backwards place. He is just like the CEO's who were selling leaded gas and its effects were monstrous and went against the evidence to support that it was global issue and destroying the planet, but you know what, science will prevail due to the intelligent amongst us who have good character and will make sure we humans actually progress.

Where does character come from?

Creating harmonious positive effort with your world around you. Meaning you are going to create disharmony by killing people willy nilly, you are going to create a negative effect stealing from people, you are going to create issues with people by lying on them and so on. Before you say the bible had this, this was written in Egypt and in Africa who didn't have a Christian deity.

It's called self awareness, which we have in our frontal lobe.

What standard are you using to base harmony on?

Does it destroy or does it build. Do you destroy the natural world and a people for capital gain if so, then you are not harmonies you are disharmonious. Do people die so you can elevate your status, then you are destructive or if you elevate your status because you bring people together and for example every tree you cut down you plant another in it's place and know when it's time not to cut down and destroy for the sake of the enviroment that you live.

But whose standard are you basing what harmonious is and how one is to be harmonious?

What is your measuring stick?

My measuring stick is nature and cause and effect which are tools of science and reading history and observing the natural world and compiling a body of work which can be tested and retested and be falsifiable and peer reviewed. That's how we know if something works or not. I had my stuff stolen and been assaulted in a mugging, I personally know how that feels like and what it feels like to be robbed, but this is bigger than just myself, so if everyone stole from each other and robbed and assaulted each other, can we have a community, can we have a safe enviroment in which people can work, build, take care of the children, can we defend ourselves from outside invaders? Questions we must ask and understand logic to see a conclusion.

But who defines safety?

And who said robbery is wrong?

Why did you feel violated when you were robbed?

Where did these feelings of violation come from?

And who decided the standard for right and wrong?

Humans gave the standard of right and wrong. Based on cause and effect. Who created the laws that drunk driving should be illegal? Humans based on what, evidence that it was impairing their cognitive functions and causing accidents and deaths. Who made texting while driving illegal? Humans, why because we cannot multi-task while driving so it's fair in logic that man created the standard against robbery and safety. There are no definitions in the bible for robbery and safety. Did Hammurabi gain his laws from Yahweh? No. Did the Egyptians gain their laws from yahweh? No.

The Israelites were robbing, killing, thieving, raping, and pillaging in Canaan cause they said their God told them it's the right thing to do, but an observant human being wouldn't do such a thing because they know their ways were creating strife in that area in which created disharmonious setting.

Why do humans feel emotional when being robbed, because of the evolutionary cognitive process called flight or fight due to the fact organisms fighting to survive for reproductions when evolutionary pathways create other organisms desire to destroy for substance. In the case of the robber he is looking substance either for food, drugs, or recreational. An illogical man couldn't understand why Robbery is wrong without looking towards a religion.

1. Actually humans didn't give the standards of what is right and what is wrong.

2. God did.

3. Therefore you even saying that there is a wrong means that you are measuring that wrongness against a righteous standard.

4. That righteous standard doesn't come from humans, but from a higher source than humans.

5. That is why you have feelings inside of you. A conscience that condemns you when you do wrong and affirms you when you do right.

6. The conscience is something that transcendes the fleshly plane of our existence, since our conscience resides inside our souls.

7. You are measuring right and wrongness against an absolute standard my friend.

8. That absolute is the All Mighty, the LORD Jesus Christ.

9. That is why you are without excuse because your conscience bears witness against you.

10. Amen.

And this is psychosis, so god created the laws against drunk driving and texting?

Prove that consciousness transcends the biology of humans.

What particles is the soul made of?

 

[Ajackson17]

Again religious try to rope a dope you and use philosophy as factual evidence and use god of the gaps. If we don't know something throw god on it, if we can confuse them to believe in god, throw god in it. This is why less intelligent people begin to believe in a deity because they do not understand philosophy versus factual evidence when they are making huge claims with no evidence and use god of the gaps argument.

 

[Ajackson17]

For number 5, explain psychopaths their inhibition towards empathy.