SC pig flips over & then slams a young black girl in class for being "verbally disruptive"...

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Mister B.;8464414 said:
And answer me this: If the cop asks this chick to move, and she refused, after her teacher AND the admin did the same, then how is she supposed to leave the class? When she WANTS to? Is THAT the amount of power adults are giving to teenagers these days??

The Lonious Monk;8465624 said:
What would have been the proper response in this situation? I'm just curious. What this dude did was clearly overboard, but if he was properly trained, what should he have done? Does anyone know? I saw someone say he was supposed to clear the classroom. If he did that, and the chick still refused to comply, what would have been his next step. He couldn't just let the chick sit there at that point. Should would have had to go. I'm willing to bet that the people that supposedly train these cops don't even think shit through this much. That's why you had that dumbass on CNN saying cops can do whatever they want when a suspect doesn't comply.

See...SOMEONE gets it.

PanchoYoSancho;8465772 said:
I'm talking in general. That cop is obviously a piece of shit, but teenagers shouldn't be given a pass because they're teenagers. Yes they have room to grow, but they still need to be held accountable. Otherwise they're never gonna learn. If all else failed and she still wouldn't have moved, he shoudve dragged her desk out of the classroom so others could get back to learning. If she would've continued to resist, he shouldve grabbed her and took her out of the classroom.

Someone else get it, too. That's all we've been saying.

numbaz...80's baby;8465842 said:
its 2015, those kids are going to check their text messages, check Facebook, twitter, instagram & record a pig playing Stone Cold Steve Austin in the classroom. It's not the 90's. Folk checked their pager constantly when we were in school. Nobody died

1) "It's 2015" isn't an excuse. C'mon now....

2) She's not dead. Stop reaching.

 
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Mister B.;8467488 said:
Mister B.;8464414 said:
And answer me this: If the cop asks this chick to move, and she refused, after her teacher AND the admin did the same, then how is she supposed to leave the class? When she WANTS to? Is THAT the amount of power adults are giving to teenagers these days??

The Lonious Monk;8465624 said:
What would have been the proper response in this situation? I'm just curious. What this dude did was clearly overboard, but if he was properly trained, what should he have done? Does anyone know? I saw someone say he was supposed to clear the classroom. If he did that, and the chick still refused to comply, what would have been his next step. He couldn't just let the chick sit there at that point. Should would have had to go. I'm willing to bet that the people that supposedly train these cops don't even think shit through this much. That's why you had that dumbass on CNN saying cops can do whatever they want when a suspect doesn't comply.

See...SOMEONE gets it.

PanchoYoSancho;8465772 said:
I'm talking in general. That cop is obviously a piece of shit, but teenagers shouldn't be given a pass because they're teenagers. Yes they have room to grow, but they still need to be held accountable. Otherwise they're never gonna learn. If all else failed and she still wouldn't have moved, he shoudve dragged her desk out of the classroom so others could get back to learning. If she would've continued to resist, he shouldve grabbed her and took her out of the classroom.

Someone else get it, too. That's all we've been saying.

numbaz...80's baby;8465842 said:
its 2015, those kids are going to check their text messages, check Facebook, twitter, instagram & record a pig playing Stone Cold Steve Austin in the classroom. It's not the 90's. Folk checked their pager constantly when we were in school. Nobody died

1) "It's 2015" isn't an excuse. C'mon now....

2) She's not dead. Stop reaching.

"Nobody died" wasn't a comparison for the child thrown across the room. It was for the teacher. Teachers still taught the class. Classmates still got their lesson. 2015 wasn't said to be an excuse. Its a sign of the times. Hence the comparison to pagers. Classmates checked their pagers & they werent dragged across the classroom.
 
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was reading the tweets from the young man that was in her class

i know its twitter and everything, but my goodness, im feel very sorry for this generation of kids who cant spell or know when to use then vs than.

Reguardless??

c'mon kids
 
AP21;8467493 said:
was reading the tweets from the young man that was in her class

i know its twitter and everything, but my goodness, im feel very sorry for this generation of kids who cant spell or know when to use then vs than.

Reguardless??

c'mon kids

American school system ftw
 
numbaz...80's baby;8467491 said:
Mister B.;8467488 said:
Mister B.;8464414 said:
And answer me this: If the cop asks this chick to move, and she refused, after her teacher AND the admin did the same, then how is she supposed to leave the class? When she WANTS to? Is THAT the amount of power adults are giving to teenagers these days??

The Lonious Monk;8465624 said:
What would have been the proper response in this situation? I'm just curious. What this dude did was clearly overboard, but if he was properly trained, what should he have done? Does anyone know? I saw someone say he was supposed to clear the classroom. If he did that, and the chick still refused to comply, what would have been his next step. He couldn't just let the chick sit there at that point. Should would have had to go. I'm willing to bet that the people that supposedly train these cops don't even think shit through this much. That's why you had that dumbass on CNN saying cops can do whatever they want when a suspect doesn't comply.

See...SOMEONE gets it.

PanchoYoSancho;8465772 said:
I'm talking in general. That cop is obviously a piece of shit, but teenagers shouldn't be given a pass because they're teenagers. Yes they have room to grow, but they still need to be held accountable. Otherwise they're never gonna learn. If all else failed and she still wouldn't have moved, he shoudve dragged her desk out of the classroom so others could get back to learning. If she would've continued to resist, he shouldve grabbed her and took her out of the classroom.

Someone else get it, too. That's all we've been saying.

numbaz...80's baby;8465842 said:
its 2015, those kids are going to check their text messages, check Facebook, twitter, instagram & record a pig playing Stone Cold Steve Austin in the classroom. It's not the 90's. Folk checked their pager constantly when we were in school. Nobody died

1) "It's 2015" isn't an excuse. C'mon now....

2) She's not dead. Stop reaching.

"Nobody died" wasn't a comparison for the child thrown across the room. It was for the teacher. Teachers still taught the class. Classmates still got their lesson. 2015 wasn't said to be an excuse. Its a sign of the times. Hence the comparison to pagers. Classmates checked their pagers & they werent dragged across the classroom.

You are trying to reason with imbeciles.

The young man who took the initial video said, the young lady was polite and BEGGED the teacher to let her slide as she had only used her phone for a brief moment. But her bitch assed teacher just couldn't let it go. He escalated the incident and is the MAIN culprit in all of this.

The young lady didn't disrupt this teachers class. The teacher disrupted his class. He could have easily slide his punk ass right into his grade book and given her a zero for participation and kept it pushing.
 
I get what you guys are saying with the level of power/respect with students vs authoritative adults.

But this kid wasn't listening about leaving a class.

We don't know what their exchange was, apparently, it was so quiet that the students didn't even really know what was going on. (according to that tweet)

To me, it was all so petty. If she put the phone away, even after being told more than once, it's put away. It's definitely not in her hands in this video. The cop could've stood by and waited for the parents.

I get it, she holds the power.. no she doesn't. It was put away. Also, a lot of it has to do with how she may have been asked.

BUT

No other person should be able to physically touch my child, or anyone else's, without my consent, or me being present to do it myself.

If she was biligerent, I could understand. But she was calm as a lake on a cold foggy morning.

 
Rasta.;8467498 said:
AP21;8467493 said:
was reading the tweets from the young man that was in her class

i know its twitter and everything, but my goodness, im feel very sorry for this generation of kids who cant spell or know when to use then vs than.

Reguardless??

c'mon kids

American school system ftw

nah fam...its deeper than that

I, like many of you probably got the spelling assignments where you had to write words over and over then took a test on those words. The next step was learning when/where to use them in sentences. There is only so much that can be "taught" during school hours

there is a bigger cause here

 
This is a slippery slope situation. You either open kids up to abuse or you undermine the authority of several adults that are in the institution. Its a no-win situation.
 
No ones authority was undermined. The adults with the "authority" all made poor decisions. It's starts with the adults. If, the adults are making sound decisions the students will follow. You lead by example not by being an inflexible tyrant.
 
You don't let students make rules. She broke rules, there are consequences for that. I don't see how having MULTIPLE adults ask you the same thing is being inflexible, if anything it only shows the stubbornness of the child. If your child is being taught not to follow rules or authority other than yours then keep em at home.

Teachers are already too close to just being high paid babysitters. One kid doesn't get to be obstinate and change the power dynamics of the school. No authority means no rules and at that point everybody might as well do what they want to.
 
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jono;8467701 said:
You don't let students make rules. She broke rules, there are consequences for that. I don't see how having MULTIPLE adults ask you the same thing is being inflexible, if anything it only shows the stubbornness of the child. If your child is being taught not to follow rules or authority other than yours then keep em at home.

Teachers are already too close to just being high paid babysitters. One kid doesn't get to be obstinate and change the power dynamics of the school. No authority means no rules and at that point everybody might as well do what they want to.

You obviously haven't been following the story. If, you are immediately skipping past vital points in the incident. Such, as, the student pleaded and BEGGED the teacher politely to overlook her phone usage as it was only for a moment. The teacher refused so, fuck him and fuck you for being intolerable jackasses unable to overlook a minor offense that didn't interrupt or distract anyone else in the class room.

More importantly this was easily resolved by giving the student a zero for participation. Confiscating her phone, calling an admin, forcing her to leave the class is ALL excessive. But uncreative, lame, teachers only there for a pay check who are more then likely failures at life tend to make issues bigger then they really are.

I have two HS children both whom excel academically and they do so, because, my wife and I are their true teachers. During their academic career they have maybe had 3 Great teachers who dedicated to GROWING children. The rest were garbage.

 
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/28/us-south-carolina-police-idUSKCN0SM1N120151028

S.C. sheriff to reveal findings of probe into black student's arrest

A white South Carolina deputy who flipped a black high school student out of her classroom chair in an encounter caught on video could learn as soon as Wednesday whether he will be allowed to remain on the police force.

Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott will announce at noon the findings of his agency's internal investigation of the incident at Spring Valley High School in Columbia, a spokesman said.

Deputy Ben Fields, 34, was suspended without pay after videos filmed by students showed him slamming a 16-year-old girl to the ground on Monday and dragging her across a classroom after she apparently refused to hand over her mobile phone to a teacher.

The student, who Lott said struck the officer during the altercation, was arrested on a charge of disturbing schools.

Lonnie Randolph, president of the South Carolina chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, said Fields should be criminally charged.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation and Justice Department have opened a civil rights probe into the arrest, which prompted a hashtag #AssaultAtSpringValleyHigh and widespread outrage on social media and in Columbia after the video footage went viral.

Lott, who cut short a trip to a law enforcement conference to deal with the incident, promised on Tuesday the investigation into whether Fields followed department protocol for school resource officers would be swift.

"This is not something that should drag out," Lott told reporters.

Fields, who has not commented on the incident, has worked for the sheriff's office since 2004 and joined its school resource officer program in 2008. An elementary school where he is also assigned presented him with a "Culture of Excellence Award" last year.
 
Kwan Dai;8467749 said:
jono;8467701 said:
You don't let students make rules. She broke rules, there are consequences for that. I don't see how having MULTIPLE adults ask you the same thing is being inflexible, if anything it only shows the stubbornness of the child. If your child is being taught not to follow rules or authority other than yours then keep em at home.

Teachers are already too close to just being high paid babysitters. One kid doesn't get to be obstinate and change the power dynamics of the school. No authority means no rules and at that point everybody might as well do what they want to.

You obviously haven't been following the story. If, you are immediately skipping past vital points in the incident. Such, as, the student pleaded and BEGGED the teacher politely to overlook her phone usage as it was only for a moment. The teacher refused so, fuck him and fuck you for being intolerable jackasses unable to overlook a minor offense that didn't interrupt or distract anyone else in the class room.

Thats all well and good but its still rules. An asshole in the right is an asshole in the right.

More importantly this was easily resolved by giving the student a zero for participation. Confiscating her phone, calling an admin, forcing her to leave the class is ALL excessive. But uncreative, lame, teachers only there for a pay check who are more then likely failures at life tend to make issues bigger then they really are.

Again an asshole in the right is an asshole in the right. She can negotiate but as an adult you shouldn't even be arguing with kids, you give a directive and thats it.

I have two HS children both whom excel academically and they do so, because, my wife and I are their true teachers. During their academic career they have maybe had 3 Great teachers who dedicated to GROWING children. The rest were garbage.

I don't know whether the teacher was any good or not but its not relevant anyway. What is relevant is that the teacher gave a directive and the student should have followed it.

Its simple adult-child relationship. Should the teacher have been cool and let it slide? Maybe but she isn't under any obligation to be cool or chummy with kids.

 

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