SAS: Where Is All The Noise About #BlackLivesMatter When Black Folks Are Killing Black Folks?

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jono;8231796 said:
D0wn;8231770 said:
Niggas should boycott stephen a.

Stop watching ESPN altogether

Stfu...

Cause it's not just ESPN... however for a nigga to constantly fix his face, and feel comfortable to throw blks under the bus is because theres no repercussions.

Blks need to make examples outta coons.

Other groups do the same thing, coons need to be excommunicated .
 
J.J._Evans;8231802 said:
ThaNubianGod;8231779 said:
I'm sick of this #blacklivesmatter movement honestly. It has no focus and we spend more time debating the term....than the actually issues. It's just become a trendy thing for people to say, while they do absolutely nothing about it....other than criticize someone like SAS on forums or social networks.

Plus SAS is right. How can you use a phrase like that, and not make black on black crime one of the main focuses. Back in the 90's there were some real movement to end BvB violence across our culture, but that fell off by 2000. Now it's taboo to even bring up the subject.

The old culture was about a movement through unity


But now......it's all about the individual, money, and violence.


Gangsta rap has been popular since the '90s.

Do rap lyrics negatively mold some young minds and some weak minds?.....Yes, I believe so.

Unfortunately there are too many prominent black and white people making huge money from hip hop, so I doubt that we will ever have an honest conversation about it.


A young Black person who has no Father in their life daily, is around drugs n violence, is around Gangs daily (whether it be Crips or not), is monitored by Police routinely, has Family dependent on Government Assistance, etc IS weak.

There is no "strong" in this equation
 
ThaNubianGod;8231823 said:
J.J._Evans;8231802 said:
ThaNubianGod;8231779 said:
I'm sick of this #blacklivesmatter movement honestly. It has no focus and we spend more time debating the term....than the actually issues. It's just become a trendy thing for people to say, while they do absolutely nothing about it....other than criticize someone like SAS on forums or social networks.

Plus SAS is right. How can you use a phrase like that, and not make black on black crime one of the main focuses. Back in the 90's there were some real movement to end BvB violence across our culture, but that fell off by 2000. Now it's taboo to even bring up the subject.

The old culture was about a movement through unity


But now......it's all about the individual, money, and violence.


Gangsta rap has been popular since the '90s.

Do rap lyrics negatively mold some young minds and some weak minds?.....Yes, I believe so.

Unfortunately there are too many prominent black and white people making huge money from hip hop, so I doubt that we will ever have an honest conversation about it.


"Gangsta rap" of old actually had a message.


Just stop because it's obvious that you don't know what you're talking about. I grew up listening to original gangsta rap.
 
D0wn;8231830 said:
jono;8231796 said:
D0wn;8231770 said:
Niggas should boycott stephen a.

Stop watching ESPN altogether

Stfu...

Cause it's not just ESPN... however for a nigga to constantly fix his face, and feel comfortable to throw blks under the bus is because theres no repercussions.

Blks need to make examples outta coons.

Other groups do the same thing, coons need to be excommunicated .

Who else pay this nigga to talk about Bron jumpshot for 3 hours a day?
 
J.J._Evans;8231843 said:
ThaNubianGod;8231823 said:
J.J._Evans;8231802 said:
ThaNubianGod;8231779 said:
I'm sick of this #blacklivesmatter movement honestly. It has no focus and we spend more time debating the term....than the actually issues. It's just become a trendy thing for people to say, while they do absolutely nothing about it....other than criticize someone like SAS on forums or social networks.

Plus SAS is right. How can you use a phrase like that, and not make black on black crime one of the main focuses. Back in the 90's there were some real movement to end BvB violence across our culture, but that fell off by 2000. Now it's taboo to even bring up the subject.

The old culture was about a movement through unity


But now......it's all about the individual, money, and violence.


Gangsta rap has been popular since the '90s.

Do rap lyrics negatively mold some young minds and some weak minds?.....Yes, I believe so.

Unfortunately there are too many prominent black and white people making huge money from hip hop, so I doubt that we will ever have an honest conversation about it.


"Gangsta rap" of old actually had a message.


Just stop because it's obvious that you don't know what you're talking about. I grew up listening to original gangsta rap.


The fuck you mean "stop"? Old gangsta rap was about storytelling, and hood lessons. Today is just gimmicks and stereotypes to sell records. Which is no surprise because our culture has lost a lot of it's substance.
 
ThaNubianGod;8231862 said:
J.J._Evans;8231843 said:
ThaNubianGod;8231823 said:
J.J._Evans;8231802 said:
ThaNubianGod;8231779 said:
I'm sick of this #blacklivesmatter movement honestly. It has no focus and we spend more time debating the term....than the actually issues. It's just become a trendy thing for people to say, while they do absolutely nothing about it....other than criticize someone like SAS on forums or social networks.

Plus SAS is right. How can you use a phrase like that, and not make black on black crime one of the main focuses. Back in the 90's there were some real movement to end BvB violence across our culture, but that fell off by 2000. Now it's taboo to even bring up the subject.

The old culture was about a movement through unity


But now......it's all about the individual, money, and violence.


Gangsta rap has been popular since the '90s.

Do rap lyrics negatively mold some young minds and some weak minds?.....Yes, I believe so.

Unfortunately there are too many prominent black and white people making huge money from hip hop, so I doubt that we will ever have an honest conversation about it.


"Gangsta rap" of old actually had a message.


Just stop because it's obvious that you don't know what you're talking about. I grew up listening to original gangsta rap.


The fuck you mean "stop"? Old gangsta rap was about storytelling, and hood lessons. Today is just gimmicks and stereotypes to sell records. Which is no surprise because our culture has lost a lot of it's substance.


How old are you?
 
Before there was "black on black" crime in America there was white on black terrorism.

One can argue BoB crime is a biproduct of the atrocities leveled against us since we were Kidnapped 500+ years ago
 
ThaNubianGod;8231862 said:
J.J._Evans;8231843 said:
ThaNubianGod;8231823 said:
J.J._Evans;8231802 said:
ThaNubianGod;8231779 said:
I'm sick of this #blacklivesmatter movement honestly. It has no focus and we spend more time debating the term....than the actually issues. It's just become a trendy thing for people to say, while they do absolutely nothing about it....other than criticize someone like SAS on forums or social networks.

Plus SAS is right. How can you use a phrase like that, and not make black on black crime one of the main focuses. Back in the 90's there were some real movement to end BvB violence across our culture, but that fell off by 2000. Now it's taboo to even bring up the subject.

The old culture was about a movement through unity


But now......it's all about the individual, money, and violence.


Gangsta rap has been popular since the '90s.

Do rap lyrics negatively mold some young minds and some weak minds?.....Yes, I believe so.

Unfortunately there are too many prominent black and white people making huge money from hip hop, so I doubt that we will ever have an honest conversation about it.


"Gangsta rap" of old actually had a message.


Just stop because it's obvious that you don't know what you're talking about. I grew up listening to original gangsta rap.


The fuck you mean "stop"? Old gangsta rap was about storytelling, and hood lessons. Today is just gimmicks and stereotypes to sell records. Which is no surprise because our culture has lost a lot of it's substance.


Hood lessons. Get ya gay ass outta here...
jono;8231853 said:
D0wn;8231830 said:
jono;8231796 said:
D0wn;8231770 said:
Niggas should boycott stephen a.

Stop watching ESPN altogether

Stfu...

Cause it's not just ESPN... however for a nigga to constantly fix his face, and feel comfortable to throw blks under the bus is because theres no repercussions.

Blks need to make examples outta coons.

Other groups do the same thing, coons need to be excommunicated .

Who else pay this nigga to talk about Bron jumpshot for 3 hours a day?

If the ratings for first take drop....

Stephen A will b let go. And it sebd a message to up and coming blks. We're not gonna tolerate cooning .
 
Trillfate;8231905 said:
Before there was "black on black" crime in America there was white on black terrorism.

One can argue BoB crime is a biproduct of the atrocities leveled against us since we were Kidnapped 500+ years ago

No it's a product of the Drug War. Just like what happened to Irish/Italians back during prohibition.

But for us, BvB crime kills off our future leaders. It's locks us up in droves. It causes fatherless homes. It lowers the wealth of black america. And it makes us post dumb hashtags for attention from white folk, who really don't give a shit about our problems. Asking the government to help us is laughable, especially when the government has been our biggest enemy for hundreds of years.
 
Malcolm Xtra;8231925 said:
D0wn;8231911 said:
ThaNubianGod;8231862 said:
J.J._Evans;8231843 said:
ThaNubianGod;8231823 said:
J.J._Evans;8231802 said:
ThaNubianGod;8231779 said:
I'm sick of this #blacklivesmatter movement honestly. It has no focus and we spend more time debating the term....than the actually issues. It's just become a trendy thing for people to say, while they do absolutely nothing about it....other than criticize someone like SAS on forums or social networks.

Plus SAS is right. How can you use a phrase like that, and not make black on black crime one of the main focuses. Back in the 90's there were some real movement to end BvB violence across our culture, but that fell off by 2000. Now it's taboo to even bring up the subject.

The old culture was about a movement through unity


But now......it's all about the individual, money, and violence.


Gangsta rap has been popular since the '90s.

Do rap lyrics negatively mold some young minds and some weak minds?.....Yes, I believe so.

Unfortunately there are too many prominent black and white people making huge money from hip hop, so I doubt that we will ever have an honest conversation about it.


"Gangsta rap" of old actually had a message.


Just stop because it's obvious that you don't know what you're talking about. I grew up listening to original gangsta rap.


The fuck you mean "stop"? Old gangsta rap was about storytelling, and hood lessons. Today is just gimmicks and stereotypes to sell records. Which is no surprise because our culture has lost a lot of it's substance.


Hood lessons. Get ya gay ass outta here...
jono;8231853 said:
D0wn;8231830 said:
jono;8231796 said:
D0wn;8231770 said:
Niggas should boycott stephen a.

Stop watching ESPN altogether

Stfu...

Cause it's not just ESPN... however for a nigga to constantly fix his face, and feel comfortable to throw blks under the bus is because theres no repercussions.

Blks need to make examples outta coons.

Other groups do the same thing, coons need to be excommunicated .

Who else pay this nigga to talk about Bron jumpshot for 3 hours a day?



If the ratings for first take drop....


Stephen A will b let go. And it sebd a message to up and coming blks. We're not gonna tolerate cooning .


I stopped watching first take cuz of that nigga I use to watch that shit religiously.....shit fell off when he became permanent on the show then he start getting at black males like everything sweet...Somebody like Bomani Jones need to get at that nigga.

His and hers > First Take


That's my shit.
 
D0wn;8231911 said:
ThaNubianGod;8231862 said:
J.J._Evans;8231843 said:
ThaNubianGod;8231823 said:
J.J._Evans;8231802 said:
ThaNubianGod;8231779 said:
I'm sick of this #blacklivesmatter movement honestly. It has no focus and we spend more time debating the term....than the actually issues. It's just become a trendy thing for people to say, while they do absolutely nothing about it....other than criticize someone like SAS on forums or social networks.

Plus SAS is right. How can you use a phrase like that, and not make black on black crime one of the main focuses. Back in the 90's there were some real movement to end BvB violence across our culture, but that fell off by 2000. Now it's taboo to even bring up the subject.

The old culture was about a movement through unity


But now......it's all about the individual, money, and violence.


Gangsta rap has been popular since the '90s.

Do rap lyrics negatively mold some young minds and some weak minds?.....Yes, I believe so.

Unfortunately there are too many prominent black and white people making huge money from hip hop, so I doubt that we will ever have an honest conversation about it.


"Gangsta rap" of old actually had a message.


Just stop because it's obvious that you don't know what you're talking about. I grew up listening to original gangsta rap.


The fuck you mean "stop"? Old gangsta rap was about storytelling, and hood lessons. Today is just gimmicks and stereotypes to sell records. Which is no surprise because our culture has lost a lot of it's substance.


Hood lessons. Get ya gay ass outta here...
jono;8231853 said:
D0wn;8231830 said:
jono;8231796 said:
D0wn;8231770 said:
Niggas should boycott stephen a.

Stop watching ESPN altogether

Stfu...

Cause it's not just ESPN... however for a nigga to constantly fix his face, and feel comfortable to throw blks under the bus is because theres no repercussions.

Blks need to make examples outta coons.

Other groups do the same thing, coons need to be excommunicated .

Who else pay this nigga to talk about Bron jumpshot for 3 hours a day?

If the ratings for first take drop....

Stephen A will b let go. And it sebd a message to up and coming blks. We're not gonna tolerate cooning .


I must have hit a nerve with the Chief Keef diss....

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fuc_i_look_like;8232182 said:
Damn Stephen A. Smith smh, i cant fuck w/ that nigga no more

I been stopped fucking with dude when he stated, if Trayvon never wore a hoody he would of never got shot , and that blk men shouldn't wear hoodies. I was done with dude...
 
I really doubt SAS is that clueless with his faulty argument. There is no way he is that dump. He just choice to remain oblivious to the point people are making in regards to the justice system for some reason. I refuse to believe he really feels that way deep down. Maybe not giving him any attention/reaction will serve better than engaging with his shenanigans
 
He didn't get booed just because he said white lives matter. He got booed because of the context; because the crowd correctly identified "all lives matter" as a fuckin politricks triangulation dodge and called him on that shit.

blackamerica;8230259 said:
Yea I'm done with this nigga SAS. He knows what hes doing and is playing both sides. He wants to identify himself as a educated black man, but also wants to be seen as "different" to the white ppl that shape public opinion. That's why he'll defend a black man like say Kobe Bryant, but in the same breath insult the black lives matters movement. He thinks hes winning cookie points with white americans by shitting on his ppl. Fuckin coon

but ask SAS about some Chip Kelly roster moves and suddenly this nigga wanna act like he Stokely Carmichael, FOH

giphy.gif


 
One thing I don't like about Stephen A Smith is that when he talks about matters of the African American experience, he doesn't do so from the full sociological or historic scope necessary to give a fair critique. #BlackLivesMatter is not a new movement, police violence against black people was a point of topic in every Black movement in the twentieth century. Even the anti-lynching movement of the early 20th century identified police as perpetrators, but for some reason none of them were arrested. One of the men who killed Emmitt Till went on to be elected sheriff of a nearby town. Murder is always sad in the black community.

Walk through a black neighborhood and see if you can walk down a street and not see a vigil or makeshift memorial on a side walk somewhere for someone who died. The grief is there, the outrage isn't because the person was most-likely arrested. The outrage comes from black people in the #BlackLivesMatter campaign when some kid gets killed with impunity.

If I kill one of my brothers on the street I'm going down before the week is over in most cases. Someone will inform the police, or forensics will find me somehow. But when they shoot someone on camera... Nothing Happens. That's the difference, but the media knows that already. What they don't say is that according to the FBI murder statistics that white on white murder is just as high or higher than black on black murder. Where is the outrage from Stephen A Smith on that? he's a selective outrage machine who's more interested in retweets than facts.

One more thing: Why was SAS so eager to comment on Baltimore, but had nothing to say about the riots in Brazil before the World Cup? That actually related to sports and corruption in FIFA. How come he didn't say anything about the recent riots in Greece? He's full of himself. He's more concerned with eloquence than substance, and more concerned with getting attention without being consistent, incisive, and ethical.
 
Sadly in 2015, we've become accustomed to shunning any argument that goes against the grain. I'm not here to defend everything SAS says, but I don't see where he was acting like a coon. In our community, we have no-snitching, rampant gang violence, drugs, etc. It's niggas on this forum that openly brag about pimping in our community. But when a mirror is held up to our own indiscretions, then we're being unfairly targeted?? That's troubling, because what that does is emphasizes one form of murder (police shootings) with another (gang violence).

Police brutality should be stopped today. All cops that have killed unarmed blacks, mexicans, etc should lose their pensions and be thrown in jail for life or put on death row, but what about the terror groups that are bloods, crips, GDs, etc.?? Why shouldn't pimps and drug dealers and gang members be seen in the same light as these murderous and racist cop?? Why is it so wrong to bring up what we do to our own people when people say black lives matter?? That's a phrase that is all encompassing. At some point, we have to look at what we're doing to cause our destruction. Whites/cops already add enough trouble in our lives. Why do we have to then help them out by killing off each other??
 
I keep this article bookmarked for all of our ignorant Blacks that just love siding with Whites, and their stats and perspectives on all things Blacks.
http://hiphopandpolitics.com/2012/0...-dont-care-when-black-folks-kill-black-folks/

This is just the tip of the iceberg there are many Blacks both collectively and individually out here fighting and giving a damn about our communities and the violence consuming them.

In Chicago you have the interrupters,

In Pittsburgh you have Jasiri X 1Hood Media

Rebel Diaz in NY and their work with Zulu Nation.

I am tired of you lazy niggas and your regurgitation of non facts. I bet if you niggas were actually involved you would know of a least one group active in your city or town. But sense most of you aren't the myths just keep being perpetuated.

Editorial: To Those Who Keep Asking; ‘Why ya’ll don’t care when Black folks kill Black folks’

This is for those folks who ask the question “Why ya’ll don’t care when Black folks kill Black folks all the time?”

Black people are just as hurt and concerned and angry when Black men die from gang violence, driveby shootings and “being caught up” every single day, as we are when white racist representatives of governmental institutions (that are supposed to protect and serve us) and ordinary white racist citizens murder us in cold blood.

Black people are just as hurt and concerned and angry when Black women die from domestic violence – murdered by those who say they love us – AND gang violence AND driveby shootings AND “being caught up” as we are when white racist representatives of governmental institutions (that are supposed to protect and serve us) – like Mitrice Richardson and the L.A. County Sheriff’s Department – and ordinary white racist citizens murder us in cold blood.

BUT:

1. If you are dependent on the mainstream media to tell you that, you will not see it; they have no stake in that.

2. If you are dependent on Black media, you may not see it there either; they may not have the resources to do it consistently.

3. If you are not in close proximity to Black institutions or Black people – in other words, if you don’t know the folks that know – you are OOL – Out Of Luck.

In answer to your question “Why ya’ll don’t care when Black folks kill Black folks all the time?” I say this: “How come YOU don’t you care?” It appears that this question ONLY gets raised when Black people vent their RIGHTEOUS indignation and anger over unjustified, racist murders.

If YOU really cared, then you would know about the organizations that exist to stop the senseless, every day murders of Black people by Black people:

1. You would know the names of these organizations

2. You would know when their meetings are

3. You would know where their meetings were

4. You would know the people who are a part of these organizations by name

5. You would know the people who are a part of these organizations by sight

6. You would go to their meetings

7. You would ask them, “What can I do to help ya’ll?”

8. You would ask your Black and mainstream media, “How come ya’ll don’t write/broadcast anything about these organizations on a REGULAR basis?”

9. You would give them much needed money

10. You would give them much needed money.

I live in Los Angeles, California. These are the names I know: Cease Fire, 2nd Call, Unity One, Unity Two, Professional Community Intervention Training Institute, Project Cry No More, Mothers of the Community, Unity in the Community, Peace in the Streets …

What city do you live in? Do you know the names? Why not?

That’s what I thought.

If you genuinely and sincerely wanted to know the answer to that question, then I apologize for my tone. If you just like to stir up crap and make a scene because you’d rather the attention be on you, instead of JUSTICE for Trayvon Martin AND ALL THE OTHERS, you are a sick, sad creature.

written byThandisizwe Chimurenga

 
manofmorehouse;8232611 said:
Sadly in 2015, we've become accustomed to shunning any argument that goes against the grain. I'm not here to defend everything SAS says, but I don't see where he was acting like a coon. In our community, we have no-snitching, rampant gang violence, drugs, etc. It's niggas on this forum that openly brag about pimping in our community. But when a mirror is held up to our own indiscretions, then we're being unfairly targeted?? That's troubling, because what that does is emphasizes one form of murder (police shootings) with another (gang violence).

Police brutality should be stopped today. All cops that have killed unarmed blacks, mexicans, etc should lose their pensions and be thrown in jail for life or put on death row, but what about the terror groups that are bloods, crips, GDs, etc.?? Why shouldn't pimps and drug dealers and gang members be seen in the same light as these murderous and racist cop?? Why is it so wrong to bring up what we do to our own people when people say black lives matter?? That's a phrase that is all encompassing. At some point, we have to look at what we're doing to cause our destruction. Whites/cops already add enough trouble in our lives. Why do we have to then help them out by killing off each other??

The audacity of niggaz like you & Stephen A to undermine a movement made for innocent black ppl slain by cops. If a nigga wanna "hold a mirror" to the community then do it on you're own time. But don't use a platform like twitter, or ESPN to call out a positive movement, thats still progressing, just to get cookie points from your white slave masters. Niggaz smh. That's like me (a black man) starting a foundation to stop gang violence in black communities, and you coming outta nowhere "um, fuck that movement. What about gangs in the latino community. Huh? We should care about all gangs!". Gtfoh. At a time where black women are being found HANGING in jail cells, and media giving little to no coverage, I find it odd you'd argue "all lives matter" lol. If niggaz wanna talk black on black crime, then start a "black on black crime" movement. But dont shit on one movement just because you can.

Btw, crime is not a race issue. Crime is a poverty issue. Black folks aren't killing each other because we're black. Its because poor communities are typically more violent given the economic conditions

 

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