SAS: Where Is All The Noise About #BlackLivesMatter When Black Folks Are Killing Black Folks?

[The Iconoclast]

So black people don't talk about the crime rate in our communities amongst ourselves? (fyi over the past few decades crime rate has decreased and linked to education attainment, which has increased and still significantly trending forward)

 

[Stiff]

When people say things like this it kind of ironically demonstrates the necessity for "Black lives Matter"

Black people kill each often ( and as we all know intra-racial crime is most common because of the way society is segregated and black on black crime is comparable to white on white crime, socioeconomic differences yada yada yada)

But we have Black on Black crime...and we have all these stop the violence rallies. Who in here hasn't been to or witnessed a stop the violence rally??? America as a whole so doesn't give a fuck about Black life that they think that we don't pay it any mind either.

The Black community DOES march against Black violence. America just doesn't give a fuck about it.

 

[bambu]

Brothers is losing they lives....

They losing they minds.....

 

[SolemnSauce]

This aint the place for that convo

 

[rapmusic]

It feels like we're running around in a never ending circle with this shit. Same stuff happens in the same order every time. It's getting so tiring because it's like are people even learning anything? All we end up with is either people who might absolutely go there and get racked over the coals by a bunch of people, or they just won't say shit about it. Of course I don't have the answers but something has got to give man.

 

[Trillfate]

Fuck SAS.. he gets called a nigger everyday on twitter.. he been suspended by Espn a few times for his reckless commentary yet he Still says things to appease ppl who hate his guts, including his employer

Fuck SAS

 

[Trillfate]

Talib is on Twitter 100 hand slapping Ppl left and right with logic and facts.. ima post some tweets

 

[Already Home_17]

Talib is on Twitter 100 hand slapping Ppl left and right with logic and facts.. ima post some tweets

 

[Ubuntu1]

1. Black lives don't equally matter to a lot of people, and given this, it makes sense to emphasize that black lives matter.

2. The killing of blacks by law enforcement officials is obviously very different from the killing of blacks by ordinary citizens.

1) I don't literally disagree with the slogan "black lives matter" but the emphasis isn't necessary even if it is true that some people care less about black lives than they do white or non-black lives. Black lives are unambiguously covered under " 'all' lives matter". Nobody can say "black lives matter" and then go out and kill black people, everyone can see that would be hypocritical. Likewise, no one can claim that "all" lives matter and then go out and kill black people, everyone can see that would be hypocritical. The people who don't care about black lives aren't chanting 'all lives matter' or if they are they're either being insincere or lacking in 'self-awareness' and you could have that same problem with some people who are chanting 'black lives matter'.

2) I agree, I don't think there's a fundamental difference but police officers are, ironically, supposed to protect law abiding black civilians and are paid to do just that (even if someone is breaking the law, unnecessary force and violence is wrong). Even when there's no question of guilt, they often escape manslaughter charges because they are police officers. Whites are also killed by police officers and 'black lives matter' doesn't cover them and they should be covered even if black people are disproportionately affected by police brutality, every single individual should be covered. 'All lives matter' kills multiple birds with the same stone.

But no one says nothing when whites kill other whites.

This isn't necessarily a rebuttal to @Ajackson17 but 'no one' says anything when black people and police officers kill white people either. It's true that 'no one' says anything when whites kill whites but those same people probably won't respond to anti-white violence ('anti-white' not in the sense of being racially motivated but homicide cases where the victim happens to be white), whether it's carried out by white people, police officers or people of color, with 'white lives matter'. If white people did racialize or complain about whites being murdered by people they assume have a bias against white people (because they take especial offense to whites being murdered by non-whites or anyone who kills a white person because of their bias against whites ) other people would respond " how are you going to complain about non-whites victimizing whites when whites also victimize whites or take issue with anti-white prejudice when you don't say anything about anti-gay or anti-Arab prejudice? Why care more about one injustice than the other?" and they would be right to.

I don't see any white people getting slain by cops on the news....

Whites are unjustly killed by police officers. Those stories are arguably less likely to gain media attention because they're either not racially motivated or, if they are, many people don't believe that white people can be the victims of racism.

 

[SolemnSauce]

It feels like we're running around in a never ending circle with this shit. Same stuff happens in the same order every time. It's getting so tiring because it's like are people even learning anything? All we end up with is either people who might absolutely go there and get racked over the coals by a bunch of people, or they just won't say shit about it. Of course I don't have the answers but something has got to give man.

The good book says you get taught the same lesson until you get the answer and change. Thing is, people need to learn what that answer is. Violence in rebuttal isnt the answer. It just kicks the can down the road. Peace only isnt the answer, because you become betas to people who think they're alphas.

To fight something stronger than you. You have to first admit to yourself that its stronger. You have to humble yourself. Find your bearing and move forward to gain the strength that defeats it.

Think about it, the US babysits Israel. Why?..there is the answer. But in order to get there we have to get right. Thats the part thats the most difficult to even talk about.

 

[blackamerica]

#BlackLivesMatter...sometimes isnt catchy

#BlackLivesMatterOnlyWhenKilledByLawEnforcement isnt catchy and its insensitive.

Why niggas mad about being taken to task for something POSITIVE. its not like he said it was phony or it was stupid or he disagreed.

Its true. Black Lives need to matter all the time ajd regardless of who is killing who.

You clearly have no idea what you're arguing.

Black Lives Matters is a movement of JUSTICE for black folks being murdered without consequence. Black on black CRIME is no different than white on white crime, and a whole different subject. If black ppl stopped killing each other today, the justice system would still be letting cops off for taking the lives of black ppl. Sit yo confused azz down somewhere

 

[desertrain10]

I wouldn't say it's really SAS trying to 'combat' the agenda to help black people. He made his comments as a way to say that we need to help ourselves to. Like 'We can't just point our fingers at them, and then not look at ourselves when we kill each other.'. He's just misguided as to what the actual difference is between blacks killing blacks and whites killing blacks.

I wasn't really paying attention too closely to the actual Twitter comments, but from what I saw Talib Kweli educated him on the difference and he shut the fuck up. (Did he STFU because he was tried of being slandered? Probably. But still.)

Some people are just ignorant about certain things. But I think there is a difference between being ignorant and being willfully ignorant. I don't think SAS is willfully ignorant.

Just my 2 cents.

First off, he knows exactly what he's doing by using a platform like twitter to air out his own ppl. Black Lives Matters is strictly aimed at black lives taken by law enforcement, and the justice system just allowing it without repercussions. Its a justice issue. If SAS has a problem with the black lives matters movement then why wouldn't he speak directly to them to get a better understanding? Instead he uses twitter to undercut them and make a spectacle of this.

What SAS isn't saying is we dont have to deal with one issue at a time. If we speak out on police brutality, why would a nigga come outta now where like "fuck that. we NEED to talk about drop out rates. That's the REAL issue". SAS is a corporate coon

#BlackLivesMatter...sometimes isnt catchy

#BlackLivesMatterOnlyWhenKilledByLawEnforcement isnt catchy and its insensitive.

Why niggas mad about being taken to task for something POSITIVE. its not like he said it was phony or it was stupid or he disagreed.

Its true. Black Lives need to matter all the time ajd regardless of who is killing who.

We're mad because its a lie and its distracting from the issue of police brutality

 

[stringer bell]

 

[SolemnSauce]

Know that "ghetto" was orginally a word to describe where the jewish lived

 

[Copper]

Black lives matter was a call for justice for the perpetrators when the victim is black.

The police never have problems arresting people in the inner city that kill, there's never a presumption of innocence nor a long drawn out investigation ending in the DA refusing to press charges

Black lives matter is a shot across the bow at the justice system of America and its refusal to see unarmed black men and women as victims

Fuck Steppen A Smith

 

[jono]

#BlackLivesMatter...sometimes isnt catchy

#BlackLivesMatterOnlyWhenKilledByLawEnforcement isnt catchy and its insensitive.

Why niggas mad about being taken to task for something POSITIVE. its not like he said it was phony or it was stupid or he disagreed.

Its true. Black Lives need to matter all the time ajd regardless of who is killing who.

You clearly have no idea what you're arguing.

Black Lives Matters is a movement of JUSTICE for black folks being murdered without consequence. Black on black CRIME is no different than white on white crime, and a whole different subject. If black ppl stopped killing each other today, the justice system would still be letting cops off for taking the lives of black ppl. Sit yo confused azz down somewhere

So the bulk of crime that actually happens is aight? That shit sounds stupid. You want to argue about justice then argue justice. You want to use blanket terms like "black lives" dont then try to specify only certain black lives matter at certain times and under certain circumstances.

When the whole thing was Justice for Trayvon it made sense, thats specified outrage at a single instance, Eric Garner same thing but when you create a blanket term its all encompassing. You dont get to shuffle shit under the rug because its not beneficial to your agenda. It makes niggas look ph

Your foolish emoting is part of the problem. There are hella unsolved black murders in the hood, do they not matter?

Be real. If black people stopped killing each other today, how much higher do you think the population would be in 5 years and then 10 and then 20?

When you point 1 finger there are 4 pointing back.

I wouldn't say it's really SAS trying to 'combat' the agenda to help black people. He made his comments as a way to say that we need to help ourselves to. Like 'We can't just point our fingers at them, and then not look at ourselves when we kill each other.'. He's just misguided as to what the actual difference is between blacks killing blacks and whites killing blacks.

I wasn't really paying attention too closely to the actual Twitter comments, but from what I saw Talib Kweli educated him on the difference and he shut the fuck up. (Did he STFU because he was tried of being slandered? Probably. But still.)

Some people are just ignorant about certain things. But I think there is a difference between being ignorant and being willfully ignorant. I don't think SAS is willfully ignorant.

Just my 2 cents.

First off, he knows exactly what he's doing by using a platform like twitter to air out his own ppl. Black Lives Matters is strictly aimed at black lives taken by law enforcement, and the justice system just allowing it without repercussions. Its a justice issue. If SAS has a problem with the black lives matters movement then why wouldn't he speak directly to them to get a better understanding? Instead he uses twitter to undercut them and make a spectacle of this.

What SAS isn't saying is we dont have to deal with one issue at a time. If we speak out on police brutality, why would a nigga come outta now where like "fuck that. we NEED to talk about drop out rates. That's the REAL issue". SAS is a corporate coon

#BlackLivesMatter...sometimes isnt catchy

#BlackLivesMatterOnlyWhenKilledByLawEnforcement isnt catchy and its insensitive.

Why niggas mad about being taken to task for something POSITIVE. its not like he said it was phony or it was stupid or he disagreed.

Its true. Black Lives need to matter all the time ajd regardless of who is killing who.

We're mad because its a lie and its distracting from the issue of police brutality

Niggas got tunnel vision? Lol i can only watch one issue at a time?

Why can't you discuss both? You cant ignore cancer because you got diabetes it dont work like that.

 

[A Talented One]

For reasons I have already explained, SAS's comments are misguided.

But that doesn't mean that he is saying these things to appease whites or white conservatives. Why must it be the case that a black person who says things like this must be doing something more than expressing his/her own convictions?

 

[5th Letter]

https://twitter.com/marclamonthill/status/623561026336915456

Well! As SAS would say 'so eloquently put'. Stephen A needs to get off the high horse. He hasn't been the same since Michelle Beadle got a few dollars taken out of his pockets.

And you'd think he would've learnt his lesson after that fiasco.

 

[Already Home_17]

#BlackLivesMatter...sometimes isnt catchy

#BlackLivesMatterOnlyWhenKilledByLawEnforcement isnt catchy and its insensitive.

Why niggas mad about being taken to task for something POSITIVE. its not like he said it was phony or it was stupid or he disagreed.

Its true. Black Lives need to matter all the time ajd regardless of who is killing who.

You clearly have no idea what you're arguing.

Black Lives Matters is a movement of JUSTICE for black folks being murdered without consequence. Black on black CRIME is no different than white on white crime, and a whole different subject. If black ppl stopped killing each other today, the justice system would still be letting cops off for taking the lives of black ppl. Sit yo confused azz down somewhere

So the bulk of crime that actually happens is aight? That shit sounds stupid. You want to argue about justice then argue justice. You want to use blanket terms like "black lives" dont then try to specify only certain black lives matter at certain times and under certain circumstances.

When the whole thing was Justice for Trayvon it made sense, thats specified outrage at a single instance, Eric Garner same thing but when you create a blanket term its all encompassing. You dont get to shuffle shit under the rug because its not beneficial to your agenda. It makes niggas look ph

Your foolish emoting is part of the problem. There are hella unsolved black murders in the hood, do they not matter?

Be real. If black people stopped killing each other today, how much higher do you think the population would be in 5 years and then 10 and then 20?

When you point 1 finger there are 4 pointing back.

I wouldn't say it's really SAS trying to 'combat' the agenda to help black people. He made his comments as a way to say that we need to help ourselves to. Like 'We can't just point our fingers at them, and then not look at ourselves when we kill each other.'. He's just misguided as to what the actual difference is between blacks killing blacks and whites killing blacks.

I wasn't really paying attention too closely to the actual Twitter comments, but from what I saw Talib Kweli educated him on the difference and he shut the fuck up. (Did he STFU because he was tried of being slandered? Probably. But still.)

Some people are just ignorant about certain things. But I think there is a difference between being ignorant and being willfully ignorant. I don't think SAS is willfully ignorant.

Just my 2 cents.

First off, he knows exactly what he's doing by using a platform like twitter to air out his own ppl. Black Lives Matters is strictly aimed at black lives taken by law enforcement, and the justice system just allowing it without repercussions. Its a justice issue. If SAS has a problem with the black lives matters movement then why wouldn't he speak directly to them to get a better understanding? Instead he uses twitter to undercut them and make a spectacle of this.

What SAS isn't saying is we dont have to deal with one issue at a time. If we speak out on police brutality, why would a nigga come outta now where like "fuck that. we NEED to talk about drop out rates. That's the REAL issue". SAS is a corporate coon

#BlackLivesMatter...sometimes isnt catchy

#BlackLivesMatterOnlyWhenKilledByLawEnforcement isnt catchy and its insensitive.

Why niggas mad about being taken to task for something POSITIVE. its not like he said it was phony or it was stupid or he disagreed.

Its true. Black Lives need to matter all the time ajd regardless of who is killing who.

We're mad because its a lie and its distracting from the issue of police brutality

Niggas got tunnel vision? Lol i can only watch one issue at a time?

Why can't you discuss both? You cant ignore cancer because you got diabetes it dont work like that.

who says we don't?

black on black crime isn't mentioned following a black lives matter hashtag. that doesn't mean it's not being discussed at all.

like you said, we don't have tunnel vision. but when we're discussing a certain topic it's important to stay on such topic. in most cases, those who say "well what about black on black crime?" aren't even black to begin with. nor do they ever discuss black on black crime

in other words, they don't give a fuck. but it's only brought up when we question law enforcement terrorizing our communities. it's brought up as a distraction and deflection, thus undermining the severity of both issues

 

[JokerzWyld]

I wish Stephen A Smith would stop talking about social issues. He needs to just stick to sports.