SAS: Where Is All The Noise About #BlackLivesMatter When Black Folks Are Killing Black Folks?

[Brother_Five]

He won't be reprimanded for this unless Michelle Beadle says something...

 

[Hevalisk]

I'm usually with SAS, but....

Stephen A Smith just went full coon, you never go full coon.

 

[desertrain10]

#BlackLivesMatter...sometimes isnt catchy

#BlackLivesMatterOnlyWhenKilledByLawEnforcement isnt catchy and its insensitive.

Why niggas mad about being taken to task for something POSITIVE. its not like he said it was phony or it was stupid or he disagreed.

Its true. Black Lives need to matter all the time ajd regardless of who is killing who.

You clearly have no idea what you're arguing.

Black Lives Matters is a movement of JUSTICE for black folks being murdered without consequence. Black on black CRIME is no different than white on white crime, and a whole different subject. If black ppl stopped killing each other today, the justice system would still be letting cops off for taking the lives of black ppl. Sit yo confused azz down somewhere

So the bulk of crime that actually happens is aight? That shit sounds stupid. You want to argue about justice then argue justice. You want to use blanket terms like "black lives" dont then try to specify only certain black lives matter at certain times and under certain circumstances.

When the whole thing was Justice for Trayvon it made sense, thats specified outrage at a single instance, Eric Garner same thing but when you create a blanket term its all encompassing. You dont get to shuffle shit under the rug because its not beneficial to your agenda. It makes niggas look ph

Your foolish emoting is part of the problem. There are hella unsolved black murders in the hood, do they not matter?

Be real. If black people stopped killing each other today, how much higher do you think the population would be in 5 years and then 10 and then 20?

When you point 1 finger there are 4 pointing back.

I wouldn't say it's really SAS trying to 'combat' the agenda to help black people. He made his comments as a way to say that we need to help ourselves to. Like 'We can't just point our fingers at them, and then not look at ourselves when we kill each other.'. He's just misguided as to what the actual difference is between blacks killing blacks and whites killing blacks.

I wasn't really paying attention too closely to the actual Twitter comments, but from what I saw Talib Kweli educated him on the difference and he shut the fuck up. (Did he STFU because he was tried of being slandered? Probably. But still.)

Some people are just ignorant about certain things. But I think there is a difference between being ignorant and being willfully ignorant. I don't think SAS is willfully ignorant.

Just my 2 cents.

First off, he knows exactly what he's doing by using a platform like twitter to air out his own ppl. Black Lives Matters is strictly aimed at black lives taken by law enforcement, and the justice system just allowing it without repercussions. Its a justice issue. If SAS has a problem with the black lives matters movement then why wouldn't he speak directly to them to get a better understanding? Instead he uses twitter to undercut them and make a spectacle of this.

What SAS isn't saying is we dont have to deal with one issue at a time. If we speak out on police brutality, why would a nigga come outta now where like "fuck that. we NEED to talk about drop out rates. That's the REAL issue". SAS is a corporate coon

#BlackLivesMatter...sometimes isnt catchy

#BlackLivesMatterOnlyWhenKilledByLawEnforcement isnt catchy and its insensitive.

Why niggas mad about being taken to task for something POSITIVE. its not like he said it was phony or it was stupid or he disagreed.

Its true. Black Lives need to matter all the time ajd regardless of who is killing who.

We're mad because its a lie and its distracting from the issue of police brutality

Niggas got tunnel vision? Lol i can only watch one issue at a time?

Why can't you discuss both? You cant ignore cancer because you got diabetes it dont work like that.

Lol

Don't be obtuse

SAS publicly had very little to say about blk on blk crime until recently, and its obvious why

Its an evasion from discussing the real reason behind the death of a Eric Garner and therefore a distraction ...blk on blk crime has little to do with why he is no longer with us today

And maybe if the state would actually treat blk criminals and victims the same as their white counterparts we wouldn't need a black lives matter movement

With that said, I don't see how you got the idea "niggas" aren't concerned with the state of their communities... Blk lives may not matter to outsiders, but they mean something to us

This concern with crime doesn’t translate to more support for punitive policies and more police. Instead, we support more education and job training...so maybe that's confusing you

Otherwise it’s easy to find examples of marches and demonstrations against crime. Than there’s movies, albums, and sermons from a generation of artist, activist, and religious leaders, each urging peace

I guarantee the same ppl you see at protesting outside their local pd because an unarmed blk person was killed by an officer, you can find at a anti violence rally, or school supply drive

Regardless of the effort we do put into ending violence in our neighborhoods, we shouldnt be silenced and have to forfeit fair treatment from the law because there's crime in our community

Smh

 

[ShencotheMC]

Coulda sworn I had a thread about this word "coon" like last week.

 

[Copper]

...and simply because white people tell everyone that black people don't care, fight or speak out about crime on their own street don't make it true

 

[J.J._Evans]

 

[Shizlansky]

...and simply because white people tell everyone that black people don't care, fight or speak out about crime on their own street don't make it true

No snitching.

 

[aneed123]

ole tap dancing ass nigga.... wtf

 

[blackamerica]

For reasons I have already explained, SAS's comments are misguided.

But that doesn't mean that he is saying these things to appease whites or white conservatives. Why must it be the case that a black person who says things like this must be doing something more than expressing his/her own convictions?

Fam, stop. I know you wanna seem like the reasonable guy that gives ppl the benefit of doubt. But SAS throws his ppl under the bus too much to ignore the coonery. He has no problem with intentionally pissing off his own ppl, but quickly apologizes if the victim is a white feminist.

Black Lives Matter is a movement based on injustices against black ppl by cops. The point is "All lives do matter" EXCEPT for Sandy Bland, Freddy Gray, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Trayvon or Mike Brown. When it comes to US the story becomes more about the victim than the cop who pulled the trigger. If you don't understand that then your just as much a coon as SAS

 

[jono]

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#BlackLivesMatter...sometimes isnt catchy

#BlackLivesMatterOnlyWhenKilledByLawEnforcement isnt catchy and its insensitive.

Why niggas mad about being taken to task for something POSITIVE. its not like he said it was phony or it was stupid or he disagreed.

Its true. Black Lives need to matter all the time ajd regardless of who is killing who.

You clearly have no idea what you're arguing.

Black Lives Matters is a movement of JUSTICE for black folks being murdered without consequence. Black on black CRIME is no different than white on white crime, and a whole different subject. If black ppl stopped killing each other today, the justice system would still be letting cops off for taking the lives of black ppl. Sit yo confused azz down somewhere

So the bulk of crime that actually happens is aight? That shit sounds stupid. You want to argue about justice then argue justice. You want to use blanket terms like "black lives" dont then try to specify only certain black lives matter at certain times and under certain circumstances.

When the whole thing was Justice for Trayvon it made sense, thats specified outrage at a single instance, Eric Garner same thing but when you create a blanket term its all encompassing. You dont get to shuffle shit under the rug because its not beneficial to your agenda. It makes niggas look ph

Your foolish emoting is part of the problem. There are hella unsolved black murders in the hood, do they not matter?

Be real. If black people stopped killing each other today, how much higher do you think the population would be in 5 years and then 10 and then 20?

When you point 1 finger there are 4 pointing back.

I wouldn't say it's really SAS trying to 'combat' the agenda to help black people. He made his comments as a way to say that we need to help ourselves to. Like 'We can't just point our fingers at them, and then not look at ourselves when we kill each other.'. He's just misguided as to what the actual difference is between blacks killing blacks and whites killing blacks.

I wasn't really paying attention too closely to the actual Twitter comments, but from what I saw Talib Kweli educated him on the difference and he shut the fuck up. (Did he STFU because he was tried of being slandered? Probably. But still.)

Some people are just ignorant about certain things. But I think there is a difference between being ignorant and being willfully ignorant. I don't think SAS is willfully ignorant.

Just my 2 cents.

First off, he knows exactly what he's doing by using a platform like twitter to air out his own ppl. Black Lives Matters is strictly aimed at black lives taken by law enforcement, and the justice system just allowing it without repercussions. Its a justice issue. If SAS has a problem with the black lives matters movement then why wouldn't he speak directly to them to get a better understanding? Instead he uses twitter to undercut them and make a spectacle of this.

What SAS isn't saying is we dont have to deal with one issue at a time. If we speak out on police brutality, why would a nigga come outta now where like "fuck that. we NEED to talk about drop out rates. That's the REAL issue". SAS is a corporate coon

#BlackLivesMatter...sometimes isnt catchy

#BlackLivesMatterOnlyWhenKilledByLawEnforcement isnt catchy and its insensitive.

Why niggas mad about being taken to task for something POSITIVE. its not like he said it was phony or it was stupid or he disagreed.

Its true. Black Lives need to matter all the time ajd regardless of who is killing who.

We're mad because its a lie and its distracting from the issue of police brutality

Niggas got tunnel vision? Lol i can only watch one issue at a time?

Why can't you discuss both? You cant ignore cancer because you got diabetes it dont work like that.

Lol

Don't be obtuse

SAS publicly had very little to say about blk on blk crime until recently, and its obvious why



Its an evasion from discussing the real reason behind the death of a Eric Garner and therefore a distraction ...blk on blk crime has little to do with why he is no longer with us today

And maybe if the state would actually treat blk criminals and victims the same as their white counterparts we wouldn't need a black lives matter movement

With that said, I don't see how you got the idea "niggas" aren't concerned with the state of their communities... Blk lives may not matter to outsiders, but they mean something to us

This concern with crime doesn’t translate to more support for punitive policies and more police. Instead, we support more education and job training...so maybe that's confusing you

Otherwise it’s easy to find examples of marches and demonstrations against crime. Than there’s movies, albums, and sermons from a generation of artist, activist, and religious leaders, each urging peace

I guarantee the same ppl you see at protesting outside their local pd because an unarmed blk person was killed by an officer, you can find at a anti violence rally, or school supply drive

Regardless of the effort we do put into ending violence in our neighborhoods, we shouldnt be silenced and have to forfeit fair treatment from the law because there's crime in our community

Smh

I'll address the bolded later. As far as the rest of your post you making an argument against something nobody said.

Nobody said it was either-or, nobody said anything about the treatment of criminals and victims being the same or whether there are marches and demonstrations.

What we are discussing is that this statement that black lives should matter...period, regardless of victim or circumstances and thats it.

Its wrong to mention other black victims because that somehow attacks a different set of black victims? Thats the argument im consistently seeing here.

I dont care about the rest of that shit. If all black lives matter then whats the argument? Dead black people somehow distracts you from discussing other dead black people?

Is this about creating martyrs for a cause or is this legit? Is it a Hobson's Choice, a floating signifier or something tangible?

Because if this is about using dead black people ad political pawns, then guess who is really doing their people a disservice...

 

[Hevalisk]

ROFL, there are walks against gang/gun violence in many neighborhoods every year, however you don't ever see that shit on national news, wont even see it in the local paper, it might get a small paragraph. lol @ "Where's the outrage?"

Of course, white people, and a lot of middle to upper class blacks wont know this though.

 

[VulcanRaven]

What about American on American crime when people are talking about ISIS?

Where is the mention of women on women violence when discussing domestic violence?

What about children fighting each other when they are victims of child abuse?

See how stupid all of that sounds?

SAS should stay away from social topics as mentioned before

The topic of black lives matter is about the justice system when cops get away with killing innocent blacks or using lethal force when it is not necessary

Everyone that counters this movement with "what about black on black crime" better be out there helping black communities with crime and better be doing their part to stop violence period

 

[jono]

What about American on American crime when people are talking about ISIS?

Where is the mention of women on women violence when discussing domestic violence?

What about children fighting each other when they are victims of child abuse?

See how stupid all of that sounds?

SAS should stay away from social topics as mentioned before

The topic of black lives matter is about the justice system when cops get away with killing innocent blacks or using lethal force when it is not necessary

Everyone that counters this movement with "what about black on black crime" better be out there helping black communities with crime and better be doing their part to stop violence period

Everybody goes on about the US turning its eye on domestic terrorism. this was an issue after the church shooting. The US doesnt go to the same lengths to shut down terrorist organizations within its own borders.

 

[D0wn]

Niggas should boycott stephen a.

 

[ThaNubianGod]

I'm sick of this #blacklivesmatter movement honestly. It has no focus and we spend more time debating the term....than the actually issues. It's just become a trendy thing for people to say, while they do absolutely nothing about it....other than criticize someone like SAS on forums or social networks.

Plus SAS is right. How can you use a phrase like that, and not make black on black crime one of the main focuses. Back in the 90's there were some real movement to end BvB violence across our culture, but that fell off by 2000. Now it's taboo to even bring up the subject.

The old culture was about a movement through unity


But now......it's all about the individual, money, and violence.

 

[VulcanRaven]

What about American on American crime when people are talking about ISIS?

Where is the mention of women on women violence when discussing domestic violence?

What about children fighting each other when they are victims of child abuse?

See how stupid all of that sounds?

SAS should stay away from social topics as mentioned before

The topic of black lives matter is about the justice system when cops get away with killing innocent blacks or using lethal force when it is not necessary

Everyone that counters this movement with "what about black on black crime" better be out there helping black communities with crime and better be doing their part to stop violence period

Everybody goes on about the US turning its eye on domestic terrorism. this was an issue after the church shooting. The US doesnt go to the same lengths to shut down terrorist organizations within its own borders.

Of course not,which is why the KKK still exists and why these mass shootings keep happening.The U.S. breeds serial killers,but only paint those of different skin color or religion as terrorists.The church shooting is not even being called a terrorist act since the killer is white.Compare that to the Boston marathon bombing,which is one of the reasons why black lives matter exists due to how the media and the country portrays certain situations.

 

[jono]

Niggas should boycott stephen a.

Stop watching ESPN altogether

 

[A Talented One]

For reasons I have already explained, SAS's comments are misguided.

But that doesn't mean that he is saying these things to appease whites or white conservatives. Why must it be the case that a black person who says things like this must be doing something more than expressing his/her own convictions?

Fam, stop. I know you wanna seem like the reasonable guy that gives ppl the benefit of doubt. But SAS throws his ppl under the bus too much to ignore the coonery. He has no problem with intentionally pissing off his own ppl, but quickly apologizes if the victim is a white feminist.

Black Lives Matter is a movement based on injustices against black ppl by cops. The point is "All lives do matter" EXCEPT for Sandy Bland, Freddy Gray, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Trayvon or Mike Brown. When it comes to US the story becomes more about the victim than the cop who pulled the trigger. If you don't understand that then your just as much a coon as SAS

Wow.

Can ask why the need for the second paragraph? Didn't you see my post on the first page? That's a serious question.

Anyway, let me address the first paragraph, which actually speaks to what I said. In his mind he probably is not trying to piss off black people, even if he foresees it. He may just be trying to say that he thinks is in the best interest of the race. You call it "throwing your own people under the bus," but he would say that he trying make a contribution in the way that seems right to him. You don't have to agree with him to think that he may be sincerely expressing his convictions, no matter how misguided you think they may be.

What proof do you have that he is trying to appease certain whites?

 

[J.J._Evans]

I'm sick of this #blacklivesmatter movement honestly. It has no focus and we spend more time debating the term....than the actually issues. It's just become a trendy thing for people to say, while they do absolutely nothing about it....other than criticize someone like SAS on forums or social networks.

Plus SAS is right. How can you use a phrase like that, and not make black on black crime one of the main focuses. Back in the 90's there were some real movement to end BvB violence across our culture, but that fell off by 2000. Now it's taboo to even bring up the subject.

The old culture was about a movement through unity


But now......it's all about the individual, money, and violence.

Gangsta rap has been popular since the '90s.

Do rap lyrics negatively mold some young minds and some weak minds?.....Yes, I believe so.

Unfortunately there are too many prominent black and white people making huge money from hip hop, so I doubt that we will ever have an honest conversation about it.

 

[ThaNubianGod]

I'm sick of this #blacklivesmatter movement honestly. It has no focus and we spend more time debating the term....than the actually issues. It's just become a trendy thing for people to say, while they do absolutely nothing about it....other than criticize someone like SAS on forums or social networks.

Plus SAS is right. How can you use a phrase like that, and not make black on black crime one of the main focuses. Back in the 90's there were some real movement to end BvB violence across our culture, but that fell off by 2000. Now it's taboo to even bring up the subject.

The old culture was about a movement through unity


But now......it's all about the individual, money, and violence.

Gangsta rap has been popular since the '90s.

Do rap lyrics negatively mold some young minds and some weak minds?.....Yes, I believe so.

Unfortunately there are too many prominent black and white people making huge money from hip hop, so I doubt that we will ever have an honest conversation about it.

"Gangsta rap" of old actually had a message. What you see now is nothing more than a glorified stereotype.

And I never said hiphop molds young minds, so stop reaching. Hiphop is nothing more than a reflection of our culture, which should tell you the current problems. The big problem is that socially, anyone who's black and speaks on BvB crime, gets called out. It's a joke, a sad joke.