Saigon on Drake"I Don't Think Too Many People Are Anticipating His Next Album"...

[nujerz84]

so saigon is really doing something different??

Not really though he does have positive messages and speak on issues that cats in the hood go thru it does not negate the point that was made... Again if cats are too dumb to understand the point Sai is making then it is what it is...no surpise most cats catching feelings or who fail to comprehend the point made are posters from the south

 

[Meet The Sniper]

Drake has no substance....

A lie and you know it.

I know your the biggest Drake fanboy on this site

ItzGrav would be pretty dissapointed to hear that. To be honest, Drake is not even my favorite rapper. But I'll check threads for, and talk about all the artists I like. I do it for Cole, Gucci, Kanye, Lupe and Blu and many more all the time. Only reason I get a perception of a "Fanboy" is because the Drake hate here is so feverish that it's gone beyond common sense. Niggas will just say any ol stupid shit to try and discredit him. Hell, you did in the first sentence.

but please substance and Drake do not go together and as far as lyrical talent he is avg on his best day.

I've been on this site far too long to take anyone who calls such and such "lyrically average" seriously. It's a day to day blanket statement, and a whole other argument in itself. I've seen everyone from Wale, to Biggie, to Kanye to Drake get called lyrically average here. Just quit it.

Fab last 3 or 4 done went at least Gold after his debut went platinum hes heading in that direction.

No.

Loso's way wasn't even close to gold. Real Talk and From Nothing To Something barely squeezed to Gold. Drake is outselling his last three albums.

Also it didnt outsell every hip hop this year...

Peep the edit. But regardless, he outsold WAYNE, doubled Luda's sales, outsold two Trey albums that has had continual singles for the last two years, outsold B.o.B. who had 3 top 10 singles.

And yet, this is underpreforming?

and to me Drake music and fanbase is fickle they dont last long the jump out the fast then fall off....

He's a debut artist, the reason he didn't drop last year was because he was BUILDING a fanbase.

It will happen with Drake when his next album doesnt come close to what his first album did...

You guys said the same thing about Wayne.

And Thank Me Later.

And Nicki.

Don't y'all ever get tired?

and yes the about of dickiriding and Buzz homie got for this glorified Ja Rule like music to not sell 500k first week and to barely reach 1.5 mil in a year is underperforming...

But who has done better other than Em? I'm dying to know. I mean, we can't use context, look at things like how music sales are down 70% this year in general, see just HOW BADLY Drake outsold his peers (Drake went plat in half the time it took for Ross to go gold), examine how his album leaked a full two weeks before it's release and that leak was a trending topic on Twitter? All because he's popular right? Just, GTFO. You can't try to set unrealistic figures to an artist, then try to justify it by some un-measurable factor like "hype". And you can't call a platinum album a flop, seeing as only like 3 rappers went plat LAST YEAR.

Just being with a plaque has already solidified an elite status, success wise.

I cant even fathom grown ass men with any kind of legit struggle relating or like this kid Drakes music....

You can't relate having ambition? Working hard? Wanting a legacy? Wanting to accomplish goals? Wanting to be with a woman?

Well, I can see how you can't identify with the last one, but 4/5 ain't bad. Drake's whole initial appeal was having a relatively common, humble personality combined with ambition and self reflection. It's the whole reason songs like Successful were...... successful.

The thing you and other posters are MISSING is that Drake ISNT DOING ANYTHING NEW he took the lane that was already occupied by someone like Fab and his music with mixing of R&B like signing and rapping is something Ja rule and Nelly sold millions off yet kind fell off...

Read up on the modernist movement in art. It pretty much explains how NOTHING is new in art anymore. You can only strive to be different. And Drake is. Not just for the singing either. He wouldn't have stuck out so much and gotten so much buzz if he wasn't. He has his own sound, and he does it well.

The consistency of success doesnt last and there always someone who comes along does the same kind of music Drake makes etc.

What long lasting rappers with consistent success are following simple formulas? Jay has been dickriding trends and going more and more big bass and electro. Kanye switches it up every album. Em started out as "different cuz I'm white", then went "imma maniac" and now tuned it down for a sort of living legend feel. Wayne went from blood, to maniac rockstar. It's all expression. Drake just has more avenues with the singing and his songwriting.

And honestly, this is why it's hating: Cause you have to bring up 5-10 years from now. Something NOBODY can give concrete proof on. I mean, is it that hard to just give a nigga props? Y'all said the nigga wouldn't drop, wouldn't go gold, or wouldn't go plat, and now you're making negative predictions for the beyond? It's like you niggas just try any ol avenue to try and undercut an artist you don't like, even if you have to make up something. "OH SURE, Em's been killing shit for over a decade, but I bet that nigga won't survive a cancer attack"

 

[Meet The Sniper]

HOW Many rappers u know telling young girls not to be fast and young men not to join gangs in they music?

You ever hear of this guy called Common?

 

[Pretty Fred]

Im shocked to see so many dudes riding for Drake. WTF? SMH

 

[P. Town]

Drake can't get no bigger than he was, and really he left people a little shocked with Thank Me Later cause it wasn't all that nice. I can't see people goin crazy about his sophmore album

 

[D-Marco]

Yall can try to talk down on SAI gitty...but he's right. And this nigga actually makes music with a message.

We see how much niggas appreciate that tho.... u rather hear punchlines about a car. Niggas is dumb

 

[P. Town]

And Saigon done got him a release date and thinks he can start runnin his mouth, c'mon dude, you not that nice to begin with

 

[BackInWhite]

The thing you and other posters are MISSING is that Drake ISNT DOING ANYTHING NEW he took the lane that was already occupied by someone like Fab and his music with mixing of R&B like signing and rapping is something Ja rule and Nelly sold millions off yet kind fell off... The consistency of success doesnt last and there always someone who comes along does the same kind of music Drake makes etc.

so saigon is bringing somethin new?

no

he's bringing a 5 year old album

 

[BackInWhite]

Yall can try to talk down on SAI gitty...but he's right. And this nigga actually makes music with a message.

We see how much niggas appreciate that tho.... u rather hear punchlines about a car. Niggas is dumb

but you a lloyd banks fan
ok
the so-called, self proclaimed Punchline King
alright
either way it go
there are far more people anticipating drake's next album than there are saigon's first 5 year old album

 

[icame4wo]

rather than focus on his music or anything else he said, we are suppose to focus on what he said about drake? oh ok well f@ck drake then.

 

[D-Marco]

but you a lloyd banks fan

ok

the so-called, self proclaimed Punchline King

alright

either way it go

there are far more people anticipating drake's next album than there are saigon's first 5 year old album

And??? You always want to argue niggas over their opinion.

Niggas acting like because Saigon dont have an album out his opinion on hiphop is invalid?? Word? Then what the fuck that make ur opinion then?

and I was referrig to niggas talkin about Saigon is past his time.

 

[D-Marco]

rather than focus on his music or anything else he said, we are suppose to focus on what he said about drake? oh ok well f@ck drake then.

lol... im saying. I actually read the interview. Drake making a fuckin R&B album next go round. We'll see what these niggas say then

 

[Meet The Sniper]

let me reiterate that.......how many raPPERS u know WHO HAVE criminal backgrounds for letting they gun go off......are making music telling the kids to put the guns down, go to school and dont sell drugs?.

TI? Though he's a hypocrite?

 

[RuffDraft]

Saigon is a talented emcee with a story, he's released a number of great Mixtapes including possibly one of my favourite mixtapes of the 2000's in Abandoned Nation.

It contained a number of great tracks, he should have had a deal sorted much faster than he actually did. But he was relevant back then and his style & story was making noise. Unfortunately, it didn't work out for him, but at a period of time when Papoose was getting buzz, a lot of people were stating Saigon as better. Dope that Just Blaze has produced half the album - he should have helped Saigon push through a deal faster. His album is similar to Detox fame, which is a shame.

3 Great Saigon Tracks:

[video=youtube;pnvdNGPEk-Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnvdNGPEk-Q[/video]

[video=youtube;s60rPPlDqMU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s60rPPlDqMU[/video]

[video=youtube;kGu4HoMpq-c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGu4HoMpq-c[/video]

 

[Meet The Sniper]

lol... im saying. I actually read the interview. Drake making a fuckin R&B album next go round. We'll see what these niggas say then

His next album is Hip-hop, The R&B project is a mixtape.

 

[G.R.I.P. Money $$$]

Yall can try to talk down on SAI gitty...but he's right. And this nigga actually makes music with a message.

We see how much niggas appreciate that tho.... u rather hear punchlines about a car. Niggas is dumb

mane thats a lot of ironing...

 

[G.R.I.P. Money $$$]

And Saigon done got him a release date and thinks he can start runnin his mouth, c'mon dude, you not that nice to begin with

WORD.

niggas talkin bout he on dat positive shit...

well dats fine and dandylions but dat nigga still on the waccer side of things...

 

[nujerz84]

A lie and you know it.

ItzGrav would be pretty dissapointed to hear that. To be honest, Drake is not even my favorite rapper. But I'll check threads for, and talk about all the artists I like. I do it for Cole, Gucci, Kanye, Lupe and Blu and many more all the time. Only reason I get a perception of a "Fanboy" is because the Drake hate here is so feverish that it's gone beyond common sense. Niggas will just say any ol stupid shit to try and discredit him. Hell, you did in the first sentence.

I've been on this site far too long to take anyone who calls such and such "lyrically average" seriously. It's a day to day blanket statement, and a whole other argument in itself. I've seen everyone from Wale, to Biggie, to Kanye to Drake get called lyrically average here. Just quit it.

No.

Loso's way wasn't even close to gold. Real Talk and From Nothing To Something barely squeezed to Gold. Drake is outselling his last three albums.

Peep the edit. But regardless, he outsold WAYNE, doubled Luda's sales, outsold two Trey albums that has had continual singles for the last two years, outsold B.o.B. who had 3 top 10 singles.

And yet, this is underpreforming?

He's a debut artist, the reason he didn't drop last year was because he was BUILDING a fanbase.

You guys said the same thing about Wayne.

And Thank Me Later.

And Nicki.

Don't y'all ever get tired?

But who has done better other than Em? I'm dying to know. I mean, we can't use context, look at things like how music sales are down 70% this year in general, see just HOW BADLY Drake outsold his peers (Drake went plat in half the time it took for Ross to go gold), examine how his album leaked a full two weeks before it's release and that leak was a trending topic on Twitter? All because he's popular right? Just, GTFO. You can't try to set unrealistic figures to an artist, then try to justify it by some un-measurable factor like "hype". And you can't call a platinum album a flop, seeing as only like 3 rappers went plat LAST YEAR.

Just being with a plaque has already solidified an elite status, success wise.

You can't relate having ambition? Working hard? Wanting a legacy? Wanting to accomplish goals? Wanting to be with a woman?

Well, I can see how you can't identify with the last one, but 4/5 ain't bad. Drake's whole initial appeal was having a relatively common, humble personality combined with ambition and self reflection. It's the whole reason songs like Successful were...... successful.

Read up on the modernist movement in art. It pretty much explains how NOTHING is new in art anymore. You can only strive to be different. And Drake is. Not just for the singing either. He wouldn't have stuck out so much and gotten so much buzz if he wasn't. He has his own sound, and he does it well.

What long lasting rappers with consistent success are following simple formulas? Jay has been dickriding trends and going more and more big bass and electro. Kanye switches it up every album. Em started out as "different cuz I'm white", then went "imma maniac" and now tuned it down for a sort of living legend feel. Wayne went from blood, to maniac rockstar. It's all expression. Drake just has more avenues with the singing and his songwriting.

And honestly, this is why it's hating: Cause you have to bring up 5-10 years from now. Something NOBODY can give concrete proof on. I mean, is it that hard to just give a nigga props? Y'all said the nigga wouldn't drop, wouldn't go gold, or wouldn't go plat, and now you're making negative predictions for the beyond? It's like you niggas just try any ol avenue to try and undercut an artist you don't like, even if you have to make up something. "OH SURE, Em's been killing shit for over a decade, but I bet that nigga won't survive a cancer attack"

LOL @ this Drake stan writing essays. Seriously Drake humble shit from what I read from his interviews and hear from his rhymes this dude is far from humble for cat that aint have to work to get where he is at. For one I go by what I hear from Drake dude rite now pretty much has at 6 songs from his album on constant radio rotation more than enough to judge whether or its any good.. Juding from the lyrical contant he HAS NO FUCKING SUBSTANCE... You saying nothing in music is new but Drake is different are you fucking serious this why I called you a Fanboy there is nothing new unique or overly orginial about Drakes music matter fact it falls right in line with the some old generic mainstream bullshit that been barmbarding the airwaves over the years. How is he different when hes using autotune on his all of his singing and its all about some made up romance are you serious.... IDK what the fuck you talking about with that whole last paragraph when you talking he wouldnt drop and all that other bs that dont make no sense or is even relevant to the topic at hand... he meaning Drake had perhaps the biggest buzz since 50 and the expectations by many even within his own camp were to do 50 GRODT like numbers and he didnt come close..

When I say lyrical avg its in comparsion to the MC's I listen too hes not fucking with MC i bump daily on any type of lyrical level...but in an era where garbage like Lil Wayne gets a pass for calling himself the best rapper alive and Wakka Floccka And Gucci Mane is whats hot then I can see why you and others fell Drake is nice. If you consider weak ass songs like Successfull deep with substance and meaning then no wonder hip-hop is shit rite now.

Why would I give a props when I personally feel his music sucks and lyrically he avg @ best (thats being nice) and dosent speak on anything that I find interesting.

its not hating to speak on how his future albums might do when its been factually proven that nearly every rap artist aside from a small hand full are never able to duplicate the success and buzz throughout there career as to when they were the new cat out its common sense.

 

[I'm THAT guy...]

He's right, too bad they're not anticipating his either.

 

[nujerz84]

Aint no comparison with Saigon and Drake when it comes to MCing or as a lyricist... Sagion is miles ahead and more talented than Drake will ever be on the mic....