Saigon on Drake"I Don't Think Too Many People Are Anticipating His Next Album"...

[G.R.I.P. Money $$$]

The nigga is just wack as hell and works with a lot of R&B artists to get his records on.

NO!!!!!!!!

 

[Meet The Sniper]

NO!!!!!!!!

Forgot you was in the thread still cuh. :\

 

[c.b.b.]

I think Drake didn't take enough chances on his debut so people know what to expect, maybe that's what Sai meant

 

[nujerz84]

Meet The Sniper;1583243

Do you got autism cuh? I referenced Kanye as another artist who tracks his individual artistic growth through his work. You go all on some shit about beats and high quality albums, that's not even what I'm talking

about.

That shit is like going: "Damn! Jordan musta been one of the fastest athletes ever!"

"Naw nigga, Chris Johnson runs a 4.2 40 yard dash"

"Okay nigga.... but can Chris Johnson jump higher than Jordan? HUH BUDDY?!"

This the shit I was talking about cuh. You just gotta cut a nigga's legs for every little damn thing. Niggas can't

even compare album content without you bringing up Kanye's career accolades to discredit it some way. Shit's disgusting cuh.

WTF is this cuh shit u be on some foreign language? I mentioned he was arrogant before he did anything in the game you compared or made inference that it was similar to Kanye circa 2007 did you not because of prior musical growth.. my point is whether you want to argue artistic growth or not Kanye work been proven Drake hadnt proven shit and body of work of a couple mixtapes isnt enough to be arrogant as he was when he didnt accomplish anything...

Wait, what the fuck is Pop connections nigga?

His pops and uncles are in the music industry as song writers and musicans located in the south it was there thru that is where he met J Prince son who in turn got Drake shit to Wayne in 2008 and the rest is history in less than a year his shit got to Wayne his shit was everywhere also the fact the was on a popular Teen show was a major reason he was able to dabble in music in the beginning of career ..

Furthermore, how is having a connect getting an easy way out? He still had to promote himself and make his own music. Everybody has to get a connection from somewhere. Big Sean had to be cool with the folks in that radio station to get close enough to spend 5 minutes rappin in Kanye's ear. Wale had to be cool with the GoGo clubs and UCB to get his sound around the city. Cudi got cool with Chip Tha Ripper and them other SLAB niggas to get on in his city. Far East Movement were FUCKIN INTERNS at Interscope.

U prove my point Drake aint did none of that shit Again in a span of possibly a year of his shit getting to Wayne in 2008 he was on Tour and a year later the most anticpated rapper in the game igga started rapping in 06 as a hobby 2 yrs later it gets to wayne in 2009 hes one of the biggest cats in the what nigga u know in the history of rap starts rapping and in a span of 2-3 years is already one of the biggest hyped up cats in the mainstream no one...

You making this rap shit out to be some type of fantastic struggle where a nigga spends a week passing out demo tapes, and the next he's on 106. It doesn't work like that.

So he can control what's popular? There is a reason why artists leave their introspective tracks for their albums, and put the catchy shit out as singles. So it can catch a muthafucka's ears.

No shit thats my whole point it doesnt but in span of about 2yrs he became signed and affilated with one of the top rappers in the game no other rapper comes close.

A couple of points:

- I can't debate your radio issue. I'm not from your city and I don't care honestly. But I doubt they're playing that much Drake honestly. But if they were:

- Don't this discredit you, Saigon and them other niggas that claim his buzz is fading and people aren't anticipating his next album? You said 6 TML songs, an unofficial remix, and a bunch of feature songs are all over the radio, and yet, this is the nigga who has "not too many people" anticipating his next album? These are the songs, some of which aren't even official singles, that are plastering your radio from a 4 month old "sucky/underwhelming" album?

It's hilarious how every time someone try to say dude don't got no buzz no more, you press em a lil bit and they slip up and let the self ether just come gushing out.

The quote was not "too many people are really anticipating his next album like crazy" and again this is true only his fans of females and young gay men will still support but the general buying audience or avg hip-hop will not be anticipating his next joint on the same level as TML if u and other cats still dont understand that the amount of buzz and hype of his first joint wont the be the same as his second major album then that be a blind fan at its finest ..



I thought you said you heard Find Your Love and Up All Night.



Find your love is he not using autotune to enhance his vocal ablities???? Up All Night is him singing his actual voice on the hook (I usually turn the radio off when it comes on so IDK) Im confused are you trying to say Drake is quality singer clear this up cuz to me 1 is him singing Autotune completly the other his using his regluar voice on the hook .

So anyone who uses autotuned is the same? Nobody can do it differently? I'd say Drakes use is a lot different than Kanye's who's was a lot different than T-Pains. Are all rappers who don't produce their own songs/ work hands on with their producer the same? Are all painters the same cause they all use canvases and brushes? What makes Drake's autotune's use so similar. He doesn't use it the same way on Miss Me than he does on Light Up. He uses autotune for effect, not assistance.

Yes to me it is its all wack and there have yet to be a quality song that I liked that has used autotune. The fact that u justify anybody using autotune speaks to me that you like that garbage different strokes for different folks.

I agree cuh. Bitch move. Well not on the Luda thing. Everybody is off that cause of My Chick Bad alone.

So his singing and his voice can't be his own sound because another nigga produced it? You have no idea how many holes that argument has.

Well if you're gonna take that, can Drake at least have Money To Blow back from Birdman? Or say Something Back from Timbaland? The were originally his tracks anyway.

IF this true then it furthers justifies my case that Drake music is wack and bullshit as Say Something and Money Blow are 2 completely bullshit songs that makes me disgusted thats its affilated with hip-hop.

Again How is music aimed for women not taking a page to what LL did way back when?? Again its nothing new or original its been done before and done better imo..

Honestly, I wouldn't even classify Fab as having a smooth/ R&B sound. The nigga is just wack as hell and works with a lot of R&B artists to get his records on. And what is the excuse when Drake DOESN'T make a female oriented song? Because contrary to unpopular belief, they far outnumber the female oriented songs.

Then they have different sounds, you twit. Did you even read this?

Its the same shit thats been done before its not original like you say it is. Im not a fan but imo Lyrically hes superior to Drake when he isnt on romancing the ladies bs.

Nobody said 50 numbers though. They were talking in terms of impact out the gate. And were they wrong? A top 10 hiphop debut sales wise? A huge buzz?

To me the comparisons was off 50 buzz was from the streets which got Em attention Drake buzz was from being affilated with Wayne from the jump, his tv show and females... to me there buzz where two totally different things.

".but in an era where garbage like Lil Wayne gets a pass for calling himself the best rapper alive and Wakka Floccka And Gucci Mane is whats hot then I can see why you and others fell Drake is nice. "

Why you lie cuh.

You making Wayne, Flocka and Gucci our "average" while trying to downplay Silk, Hammer and Vanilla. Despite the latter 3 ALL being platinum artists. Just like you ignored these niggas to listen to your Big Ls and whatnot, we ignore these niggas to listen to Em, Jay, Lupe etc.

Again Im talking about skills fuck sales... to me Gucci, Wayne and Flockka musically and lyrical are in the same category as Silk, Hammer and Vannila. Drake to me is part of the wack category of Vannila Ice and shit to where I dont listen to his music hes not on Em ,Jay, Lupe... The point is his overratting has alot to do with what hes compared to in the mainstream when Gucci and Flockka are whats being played he is gonna look better by comparison but compared to Em, Jay, Lupe etc hes wack. Are u saying Silk, Hammer and Vannilla ice are good cause they all platinum artist are u serious???

Wait, then why does Drake face that tier alone if we're talking about an entire generation? I mean, not only is that music retartedly accessible thanks to the internet age, but there are more artists to feature too if you're talking lyrically or artistically.

It's over a year and a half old.

It's just a real ass statement. I can pick plenty from Drake songs.

Im sure u can could care less he still wack

Actually cuh, this was the response to his answer.

It's pretty much the general consensus of the thread. But you can continue and try to twist it into some "FEELINS CAUGHT! STANSTANSTAN" shit if you want.

Ur post is that of as a mad stan that Saigon he said something slighly negative about ur BF Drake and the rest of your post in this thread proved that your on some captain save a drake type shit yes in your prior post in which u brought up shit that was relevant to this thread is a perfect example of Drake stan mad that cats dont like his shit.

Funny thing is it wasn't.

And you helped me prove it.

I think I just prove it was at least any one with common sense who isnt a blind stan of the artist that being talked about.

 

[gee757]

saigonz album betta go PLATINUM or hez gonna look stupid talkin that shitt llol...

aint nobody checking for his album at all.

Nigga was never chckin for Sai.

Dude better just chill cuz the SH niggas ate him alive.

plz WU TANG had them slaughter house pussiez shook sai will beat all them bitchz lol

 

[Bcotton5]

yall niggas need to chill with that shit

 

[ItzGravitation]

saigonz album betta go PLATINUM or hez gonna look stupid talkin that shitt llol...

plz WU TANG had them slaughter house pussiez shook sai will beat all them bitchz lol

WU aint got shit on SLaughterhouse.

 

[gee757]

WU aint got shit on SLaughterhouse.

smh a SLIDELINE wu tang kat punch'd joey n da face on camera & all joe did was get a ICE BAG & aint nun of them SH pussiez do shit! lolllll slaughterhouse needz 2 stick 2 rappin not BEEF!

 

[ItzGravitation]

smh a SLIDELINE wu tang kat punch'd joey n da face on camera & all joe did was get a ICE BAG & aint nun of them SH pussiez do shit! lolllll slaughterhouse needz 2 stick 2 rappin not BEEF!

thats where they outshine the whole Wu at.

They cant fuck with SH lyricly.

Buddens is a bitch.

Let them try that shit on the West or in Detroit.

 

[gee757]

thats where they outshine the whole Wu at.

They cant fuck with SH lyricly.

Buddens is a bitch.

Let them try that shit on the West or in Detroit.

lol wtf is royce gonna do 2 da wu??? smh crook'd might b da only 1 outta SH that would bring da drama..

 

[ItzGravitation]

lol wtf is royce gonna do 2 da wu??? smh crook'd might b da only 1 outta SH that would bring da drama..

Detroit is a violent city.

Royce would off them nggas or get them offed.

 

[gee757]

Detroit is a violent city.

Royce would off them nggas or get them offed.

omg lol royce is PUSSY he aint shit he couldnt even handle that redneck feminem & them coonz d12 plus royce last solo lp sold 4k da 1st wk that showz u how much da D carez about him lollll

 

[rose.amoureux]

It not like he's lying...

 

[ItzGravitation]

omg lol royce is PUSSY he aint shit he couldnt even handle that redneck feminem & them coonz d12 plus royce last solo lp sold 4k da 1st wk that showz u how much da D carez about him lollll

Where's your Proof?

lol

but if we go bt sales, Em>>>your fav rapper

 

[gee757]

It not like he's lying...

but b real who is anticipatin a saigon album??? lolll atleast drizzy got a platinum lp under his belt

Where's your Proof?

lol

but if we go bt sales, Em>>>your fav rapper

wat do u mean wherr is da proof that royce sold 4k da 1st wk on his last solo album?

Detroit lyricist Royce Da 5’ 9” debuted at no. 111 on The Billboard 200 this week with his third solo album, Street Hop.

For the disc, Royce recruited Bun B, Busta Rhymes and Phonte of Little Brother, in addition to his Slaughterhouse partners-in-rhyme. Street Hop managed to sell 4,600 copies in its first week.

http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=60813

& on da redneck feminem already let it b known his white skin & blu eyez got him out sellin alll da brown eyed N1GGER rapperz on WHITE EMERICA!..

 

[Meet The Sniper]

WTF is this cuh shit u be on some foreign language? I mentioned he was arrogant before he did anything in the game you compared or made inference that it was similar to Kanye circa 2007 did you not because of prior musical growth..

"The reason he doesn't seem as humble now is because he feels like he doesn't need to be. He feels like he deserved the accolades and the self praise. Kinda like Kanye circa 2007. You can track the growth of both these artists simply by listening to their earlier work."

How you gonna deny some shit I said that's right the fuck there.

my point is whether you want to argue artistic growth or not Kanye work been proven Drake hadnt proven shit and body of work of a couple mixtapes isnt enough to be arrogant as he was when he didnt accomplish anything...

He said he was gonna be big.... he did. Drake rarely talks of himself out of character. He claims to be one of the hottest rappers out, and guess what? Top 10 hiphop debut, 2nd best selling album of the year, 57 award nominations and 16 wins.

That's accomplishing nothing, huh?

His pops and uncles are in the music industry as song writers and musicans located in the south it was there thru that is where he met J Prince son who in turn got Drake shit to Wayne in 2008 and the rest is history in less than a year his shit got to Wayne his shit was everywhere also the fact the was on a popular Teen show was a major reason he was able to dabble in music in the beginning of career ..

Less than a year cuh? Room For Improvement dropped in 06. Drake rapped on Degrassi in like 04. Drake was signed in 09. And you seriously can't tell me that Degrassi put him on. Not even you believe that.

U prove my point Drake aint did none of that shit Again in a span of possibly a year of his shit getting to Wayne in 2008 he was on Tour and a year later the most anticpated rapper in the game igga started rapping in 06 as a hobby 2 yrs later it gets to wayne in 2009 hes one of the biggest cats in the what nigga u know in the history of rap starts rapping and in a span of 2-3 years is already one of the biggest hyped up cats in the mainstream no one...

Nas began a rap career in 91, featured on a music soundtrack in 92, and dropped an album in 94. That's a year less than Drake, and this is leaving out a fuckload of context, like building of internet fanbases (which Drake took his time to do) and the age in general.

Don't let me bring up Soulja Boy, who made up a dance and spammed myspace friend requests to make the biggest single of the decade.

No shit thats my whole point it doesnt but in span of about 2yrs he became signed and affilated with one of the top rappers in the game no other rapper comes close.

So it doesn't have anything to do with his music having appeal? Or him doing his promotion right?

It's cause it was handed to him right?

Hm, ok.

The quote was not "too many people are really anticipating his next album like crazy" and again this is true only his fans of females and young gay men will still support but the general buying audience or avg hip-hop will not be anticipating his next joint on the same level as TML if u and other cats still dont understand that the amount of buzz and hype of his first joint wont the be the same as his second major album then that be a blind fan at its finest ..

But you just said he's getting radio spin crazy. You checkmated yourself.

But to add salt to your wounds:



^^^ I Get Lonely too, the first track off his R&B mixtape. It was leaked a month ago via his twitter (of just over a million followers), and the usual array hiphop websites. The result? 4.5 mill views on youtube, more than 95% of Kanye's Good Friday tracks, a mil shorter than Kanye's Runaway movie.

Just one lone track off of a Twitter post that said "Just Like You I Get Lonely Too" with a youtube link. No video, no official single.

This is a public who isn't anticipating his next body of work? It just doesn't get much more blatant.

Find your love is he not using autotune to enhance his vocal ablities???? Up All Night is him singing his actual voice on the hook (I usually turn the radio off when it comes on so IDK) Im confused are you trying to say Drake is quality singer clear this up cuz to me 1 is him singing Autotune completly the other his using his regluar voice on the hook .

Listen a little harder. That's Kanye ad-libbing in auto-tune, not Drake. And mind you, these are just out of the songs YOU mentioned.

Yes to me it is its all wack and there have yet to be a quality song that I liked that has used autotune. The fact that u justify anybody using autotune speaks to me that you like that garbage different strokes for different folks.

So you can't like a song if it has synth effects.

Well, have fun with that.

IF this true then it furthers justifies my case that Drake music is wack and bullshit as Say Something and Money Blow are 2 completely bullshit songs that makes me disgusted thats its affilated with hip-hop.

Lol, Hip Hop elitism.

Again How is music aimed for women not taking a page to what LL did way back when?? Again its nothing new or original its been done before and done better imo..

Nobody said it was original. But it's personal. His music is by no means cookie cutter. It's what we call "having your own lane/sound".

But since you like to try and shit on Drake so hard for "ORIGINALITIEZ", please show me a completely original rapper. Because all art in general has done is evolve from predecessors and vary in expression from person to person. You act as if saying "LOL HIM AND LL COO GAY BOTH HAVE A SONG FOR THEM THINGZ WITH DA VAGINAZ, THEY COMPLETELY DA SAME!!!"

To me the comparisons was off 50 buzz was from the streets which got Em attention Drake buzz was from being affilated with Wayne from the jump,

So Far Gone was released before Drake even signed with Young Money.

his tv show

Who was checking for him because of Degrassi?

and females... to me there buzz where two totally different things.

You don't sell 1.5 million copies to females or "gheys" alone. Ask Trey Songz.

Again Im talking about skills fuck sales...

Wait why?

Saigon isn't even talking about skills.

to me Gucci, Wayne and Flockka musically and lyrical are in the same category as Silk, Hammer and Vannila. Drake to me is part of the wack category of Vannila Ice and shit to where I dont listen to his music hes not on Em ,Jay, Lupe... The point is his overratting has alot to do with what hes compared to in the mainstream when Gucci and Flockka are whats being played he is gonna look better by comparison but compared to Em, Jay, Lupe etc hes wack. Are u saying Silk, Hammer and Vannilla ice are good cause they all platinum artist are u serious???

You're calling Waka and Gucci "what's being played in the mainstream" as a point of comparison to make Drake look worse. Despite these two having shit sales.

Yet you refuse to accept Hammer, Sillk and Vanilla being "what's being played in the mainstream" back then, despite these three selling more than the Ems and Jays of our generation. Hell, they were selling more than the Nas of your generation.

This, sir, is what's called hypocrisy.

Im sure u can could care less he still wack
Ur post is that of as a mad stan that Saigon he said something slighly negative about ur BF Drake and the rest of your post in this thread proved that your on some captain save a drake type shit yes in your prior post in which u brought up shit that was relevant to this thread is a perfect example of Drake stan mad that cats dont like his shit.

I think I just prove it was at least any one with common sense who isnt a blind stan of the artist that being talked about.

 

[thesynthesis]

saigon always been a biter ass dude

i recall a interview where he said Kayne should not rap, he's nt a good rapper, he should make beats,

 

[ItzGravitation]

Gee is a lil slow.

And Em sells more than the whole Wu combined and your fav rapper cuz of skill.

Not skin.

 

[Wishbone Jones]

No Saigon, NOBODY is anticipating YOUR next album, you local ass nigga

...............

 

[Meet The Sniper]

Wait, how did this get turned into a Em thread?

I told you mfs about provoking Gee, dammit.