Ayo.... Thanks in advance for spacing the paragraphs out.
nujerz84;1582912 said:
Kanye circa 2007 already had at least 3 high quality albums in and ton of classic beats under his belt so that comparison is off.
Do you got autism cuh? I referenced Kanye as another artist who tracks his individual artistic growth through his work. You go all on some shit about beats and high quality albums, that's not even what I'm talking about.
That shit is like going: "Damn! Jordan musta been one of the fastest athletes ever!"
"Naw nigga, Chris Johnson runs a 4.2 40 yard dash"
"Okay nigga.... but can Chris Johnson jump higher than Jordan? HUH BUDDY?!"
This the shit I was talking about cuh. You just gotta cut a nigga's legs for every little damn thing. Niggas can't even compare album content without you bringing up Kanye's career accolades to discredit it some way. Shit's disgusting cuh.
Drake didnt have to work as hard compared to alot of the other niggas in game to achieve the succes he got.. His pop connections in the industry got him in the postion to where he was able to get his demo in the right people hands...he never had to go thru half the shit alot MC's from NYC or the West Coast go thru just to get a deal.He lucked up...
Wait, what the fuck is Pop connections nigga?
Furthermore, how is having a connect getting an easy way out? He still had to promote himself and make his own music. Everybody has to get a connection from somewhere. Big Sean had to be cool with the folks in that radio station to get close enough to spend 5 minutes rappin in Kanye's ear. Wale had to be cool with the GoGo clubs and UCB to get his sound around the city. Cudi got cool with Chip Tha Ripper and them other SLAB niggas to get on in his city. Far East Movement were FUCKIN INTERNS at Interscope.
You making this rap shit out to be some type of fantastic struggle where a nigga spends a week passing out demo tapes, and the next he's on 106. It doesn't work like that.
I listened to his earlier shit wasnt impressed his first failed single Was another track about Women Replacement Girl that did nothing and the two collabs that he did with LB and Elzhi that I heard that his fans like to bring up are surprise ... songs about relationships
So he can control what's popular? There is a reason why artists leave their introspective tracks for their albums, and put the catchy shit out as singles. So it can catch a muthafucka's ears.
What good would Think Good Thoughts have been on the radio, with him and Phonte talking about being pre-judged as rappers, and Elzhi going on some long drawn out metaphor comparing himself to a book?
Really IDK what city you @ but HOT 97 and Power 105.1 be playing
Up All Night, Miss Me, Fancy and its remix with MJB, Find Your Love still gets play,and Light Up gets spins too, U rite with regards to Over but that was before it got played out the other tracks are in constant heavy rotation daily. Z100 plays Find Your Love alot as well.
Again he got about 6 joints that were off his album that got steady to very heavy play where Im at on radio not including his guest appearances on other peoples shit more than enough to judge whether I like his shit to me its garbage.
A couple of points:
- I can't debate your radio issue. I'm not from your city and I don't care honestly. But I doubt they're playing that much Drake honestly. But if they were:
- Don't this discredit you, Saigon and them other niggas that claim his buzz is fading and people aren't anticipating his next album? You said 6 TML songs, an unofficial remix, and a bunch of feature songs are all over the radio, and yet, this is the nigga who has "not too many people" anticipating his next album? These are the songs, some of which aren't even official singles, that are plastering your radio from a 4 month old "sucky/underwhelming" album?
It's hilarious how every time someone try to say dude don't got no buzz no more, you press em a lil bit and they slip up and let the self ether just come gushing out.
And yes every track Ive heard thus far with him singing is autotuned assited
I thought you said you heard Find Your Love and Up All Night.
which again falls in line with ever other cats who used autotuned to death.
So anyone who uses autotuned is the same? Nobody can do it differently? I'd say Drakes use is a lot different than Kanye's who's was a lot different than T-Pains. Are all rappers who don't produce their own songs/ work hands on with their producer the same? Are all painters the same cause they all use canvases and brushes? What makes Drake's autotune's use so similar. He doesn't use it the same way on Miss Me than he does on Light Up. He uses autotune for effect, not assistance.
And yes to me the cat came off arrogant before he ever accomplished anything in the game. Lets not add him talking shit about Luda or that bitch move of Lil Kim but keeps his mouth shut when Jay Electronica or Beanie Siegel called him out.
I agree cuh. Bitch move. Well not on the Luda thing. Everybody is off that cause of My Chick Bad alone.
No just because he singing "voice" is laid back and soft does not mean he has his own sound. Find Your Love is perfect example of him not having his own sound as it was a Kanye West joint first.
So his singing and his voice can't be his own sound because another nigga produced it? You have no idea how many holes that argument has.
Well if you're gonna take that, can Drake at least have Money To Blow back from Birdman? Or say Something Back from Timbaland? The were originally his tracks anyway.
his sound was grandfathered by the likes of LL Cool J "I need Love" type shit.
The comparison to Fab is valid if that there raps are geared to more of the female audience only difference is Fab doesnt sing.
Honestly, I wouldn't even classify Fab as having a smooth/ R&B sound. The nigga is just wack as hell and works with a lot of R&B artists to get his records on. And what is the excuse when Drake DOESN'T make a female oriented song? Because contrary to unpopular belief, they far outnumber the female oriented songs.
Ja Rule is comparison is even more on point the only thing is he sounds like a cookie monster when he sung while Drake is laid back and mellow it still the same shit.
Then they have different sounds, you twit. Did you even read this?
Again I never brought up J Cole and Im not speaking for any one else that may of done that but its not a delusion when MTV, BET, XXL and other various media outlets are hyping up the expectations and referencing 50 CENT and expecting those kind of results it wasnt some made up shit on the IC as you are falsely claiming.
Nobody said 50 numbers though. They were talking in terms of impact out the gate. And were they wrong? A top 10 hiphop debut sales wise? A huge buzz?
I put Wayne, Gucci and Wakka Flokka on the same level as the people you just mentioned
".but in an era where garbage like Lil Wayne gets a pass for calling himself the best rapper alive and Wakka Floccka And Gucci Mane is whats hot then I can see why you and others fell Drake is nice. "
Why you lie cuh.
You making Wayne, Flocka and Gucci our "average" while trying to downplay Silk, Hammer and Vanilla. Despite the latter 3 ALL being platinum artists. Just like you ignored these niggas to listen to your Big Ls and whatnot, we ignore these niggas to listen to Em, Jay, Lupe etc.
I put Wayne, Gucci and Wakka Flokka on the same level as the people you just mentioned so its whatever you not convince a dude who grew up on Boot Camp Click , Wu-tang, Pharoah Monche /Organized Confusion, DITC (Big L, OC etc),Ice Cube, Scarface, Big Pun, AZ, Cormega, Chino XL, Redman, to Nas, Jay-z , Em, Slaughthouse, Vintage Outkast and Dungeon Family and shit loads more that Drake is on any of these cats level lyrically so yeah when I see Drake vs the above mentioned to ME that dude is avg @ best fuck record sales and hits (though several of the peeps I mentioned done sold more and had more hits) im talking lyrical skill he doesnt come close.
Wait, then why does Drake face that tier alone if we're talking about an entire generation? I mean, not only is that music retartedly accessible thanks to the internet age, but there are more artists to feature too if you're talking lyrically or artistically.
Deep and meaningful lol when that song is already been forgotten
It's over a year and a half old.
about 50 album title GRODT is more substantial and meaniful for the young cats hustling trying to come up than this Drake Song.
It's just a real ass statement. I can pick plenty from Drake songs.
Dude was asked a question and he answered it u got hurt proceeded to post a female type response like this...
Actually cuh, this was the response to his answer.
Meet The Sniper;1580660 said:
Now that's a hatin ass nigga.
How are niggas gonna anticipate an album that few people even know is coming? Most niggas don't even know about It's Never Enough, and THAT got delayed. The album don't got a name.
Nigga who is anticipating YOUR album?
It's pretty much the general consensus of the thread. But you can continue and try to twist it into some "FEELINS CAUGHT! STANSTANSTAN" shit if you want.
IDK wtf u talking about other threads and other rappers we talking about drake and what he said was valid..
Funny thing is it wasn't.
And you helped me prove it.
