RZA Says He Hasn't Heard Of Jay Electronica! *DEAD* -- "The South Has Slow Mind..."

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FrozenMind;730584 said:
I doubt Wu tang was affiliated with the mob. The italian mob doesn't even allow black people to be made, they are only allowed to be bitches in the organization. Also the shit wu was talking about in records would have gotten them and there families hit if they were really involved in the mob.

Also it is mafioso rap. You can say any genre, crunk, hyphy, conscious, etc is just a name made by the media, but those describe it.

Having skits on your album where you are talking like you are italian = mafioso rap

Talking about mafia crime families that in real life you are not allowed to be in = mafioso rap

Na..............U have to understand wheere they From, In Staten Island, thats the Heart of Mob Strong Hold...........they Grew up with alot of Differnt Niggas Form Differnt Famlies, and U cant really Do shit with out them over there, SI is all them.............Google it if U want, Wu tang Hand a Manager Runing Guns For the Gambino Crime Famliy, Theyw as all COol with them
 
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FrozenMind;730461 said:
Theres are many intelligent rappers down south and there are alot of intelligent people in the south. Ive met many people from the north and west coast that are fucking morons.
Only an idiot would assume a genre of music that is purposefully dumbed down to sell higher amounts of units to young teens would reflect a whole regions mindstate and culture.
Only an idiot with his mind on ice wouldnt assume that music reflects culture and vice versa.

Let me break it down for you slow people.

Atlanta's trap music mirrors their culture and how they get it in the streets
Comptons gangsta music reflects the gang mentality out west
WuTang and Rza's music reflects the 5% wisdom back East
Houston came with the slabs,w/ swangers screwed music, syrup....

CULTURE is the customs, habits and behavior that comes from your enviornment, and HipHop artists represent their enviornment weather they like it or not.

If 99% of your music is about cheeseburgers its a safe assumption to believe that cheeseburgers are a major part of your culture.
 
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tri3w;730571 said:
Wrong again............."Mafioso Rap" is a term the Media Made up...........they Only niggas Really kickin that Mob SHit was Wu-tang, and thats beacuse they was affliated with some of them Back in the Day............They had a manager that was runnin Gunz For the Gambino Crime Family............Just Cuz niggas talk about Movin Drugs Crazy it gotta be some Mob shit??? NIggas Had Black Gangsters Out Here too, yea shit is TYpe Ignornat to Follow a Figure that had nothing but conpemt for Balck folk, But that cant be worse than that nigga on ur AVI, if u really feel like that then there is a HUUUUUUUUGE problem..........Waka is the prime Example of a Coon, dude represents a Sterotype about Black folk we been trynna get rid of for Centuries; We stupid, Only Care about Music we can Dance too, Dont Care about Readin Much (the anti Lyrics Stance He took) snd we Like Flashy shit. its amazing that a Rapper can Readliy Embody all that and Be proud of it

this all comes back to balance
because, honeslty, i don't see a problem with what waka does
its just the fact that so many other niggas do it too
its almost like if you don't come out talkin bout the trap you're guaranteed not to have success
i had to tall a nigga the other day
we in memphis, tn
we ain't never had a trap down here
stop sayin you trappin!
but, yeah
its all about balance
too many niggas in 1 lane
you supposed to be able to have mafioso rap
you supposed to have ignorant rap
conscious rap
club/dance rap
even the shiny suit shit served its purpose
but its just too many niggas doin what every other nigga is doin
 
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tri3w;730603 said:
Na..............U have to understand wheere they From, In Staten Island, thats the Heart of Mob Strong Hold...........they Grew up with alot of Differnt Niggas Form Differnt Famlies, and U cant really Do shit with out them over there, SI is all them.............Google it if U want, Wu tang Hand a Manager Runing Guns For the Gambino Crime Famliy, Theyw as all COol with them

Get your head out of your ass. Staten Island is not a stronghold for mob operations. Rich mobsters have houses out there on the other side of town 20 miles away from where the wu came from. There business is mostly in the city. Where the money is. LOL are you calling the all black projects a mafia stronghold? The mob is 2-3 levels above the kingpin of a project. A charecter like Kenneth "Supreme" probably had a connect whose connect was a low level mobster. Thats how deep in the game they are. They don't fuck with rappers unless they are extorting them, and they don't even talk to niggas who ain't stacking a million a week, and those few super right rock solid niggas they talk to, 9/10 they send a low level guy to talk to him, and 9/10 they are only talking to him to extort him or shit on him in some way. I could suggest a couple books for you to read before you say such stupid things. Ive read 5 books about the mafia, all over 750 pages long, and what im telling you is the real.

1. Wu tang would not be "cool" with the mob. The mob may have sent people outside the mob they contracted to extort them, used them, or someone who knows someone who is affiliated with the mob may have sold them dope or guns. But they are not "cool" with them.

2. If they were "cool" with them, lets just assume. Ghost, rae, rza, and all there family members would have been on a missing persons list after OB4CL came out. Even acknowledging the mafia exists to the public when you are currently in the mob is breaking omerta which is the same to them as snitching and is grounds for a hit.

Now lets talk about NaS, Cormega, and AZ, and all the fantasy ignorant mob shit they put out.
With that being said, I still think they all made great music, and I am big fans, same with wu.
 
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genstasia;730614 said:
Ok since u assume i dont know plz enlighten me....

You said none of them have swag. They all do. Swag means swagger. All humans have a certain swagger. Some is nice an some is lame. The south has nice swagger and NY niggas wish they could buy it online and make a million dollars off it.
 
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FrozenMind;730551 said:
Because the southern region has the best beats for the club, and northerners are enchanted by our accents. That is what sells mainstream music in 2010. If NY niggas could dumb down and sell like crazy they would, quite a few have, but they don't have that southern style, swagger and beats that the audience craves.
Who are you calling "niggas"?

I dont know if people up North are enchanted by southern drawls, I do know that 85% of HipHop music is purchased by whites.

The audience craves JayZ, 50cent, and Emenim according to record sales...its sad that you are a man mentioning "swagger" in his posts.

BackInWhite;730552 said:
the beginning part of the larger sized part of your post
"ignorance is not exclusive to any particular region"
is my point
no need to feel sorry for me, b
i'm just sayin
shiny suits and extravagance is just as ignorant to me
Thats why I say there is something odd about you...no Black man with self-respect and knowledge could say that promoting drug-dealing is as ignorant as dancing in a shiny suit.

There are 750,000 Black men in jail and it aint for wearing shiny suits...65% for drug or drug-related charges, but if you not from the hood it wouldnt bother you, it would be just as ignorant as them shiny suits.
 
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tri3w;730603 said:
Na..............U have to understand wheere they From, In Staten Island, thats the Heart of Mob Strong Hold...........they Grew up with alot of Differnt Niggas Form Differnt Famlies, and U cant really Do shit with out them over there, SI is all them.............Google it if U want, Wu tang Hand a Manager Runing Guns For the Gambino Crime Famliy, Theyw as all COol with them

This nigga knows what he's talking about
 
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v 5o cent...sales....are u joking no race is fuckin with 50 cent anymore, hes gone, id put lil wayne in the place of that name
 
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genstasia;730614 said:
Ok since u assume i dont know plz enlighten me....
LMAO why you pull his skirt up??

Yeah tell us about swag.

Ive read 5 books about the mafia, all over 750 pages long, and what im telling you is the real.

Self-ether
 
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hrap-120;730666 said:
Thats why I say there is something odd about you...no Black man with self-respect and knowledge could say that promoting drug-dealing is as ignorant as dancing in a shiny suit.

There are 750,000 Black men in jail and it aint for wearing shiny suits...65% for drug or drug-related charges, but if you not from the hood it wouldnt bother you, it would be just as ignorant as them shiny suits.

drugs don't bother me
everybody i know has sold some kind of drug at 1 point in time
that shit ain't nothin major
which is probably why waka flocka doesn't bother me
and why i say shiny suits and extravagance are on par
maybe it's not
maybe it's just my jaded view of the world
but this nigga and all these stupid ass plastic suits talkin bout all his benzes and money
doesn't really seem any more enlightened to me than
"i fucked my money up, now i can't re-up"
 
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Zack Morris Swag;730669 said:
This nigga knows what he's talking about

If you beleive him you also don't know what your talking about. Cause he is talking out of his ass.

"they grew up with alot of niggas from different families"

NO THEY DIDN'T. They grew up in the hood. Blacks are not allowed in the mafia, and broke ones from the hood, lol that has to be a joke.
 
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genstasia;730676 said:
.... No Swag is ur Aura ur Presence when u walk into a room no matter if ur known or not ppl want to know who u are... Swag = to Money and flyy cloths to these dumb dumbs... It's something u just have... And we want what? All that "Swag rappin" the south is doin Big Daddy Kane did it in the 80's... Yall still tryin to keep up...

smh
typical ny shit
hate on some shit
then claim to have done the shit first
 
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I talk to Jay Elect on BBM and Aim sometimes... I know for a fact he's cool with Rae... RZA needs to get on game.
 
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FrozenMind;730697 said:
If you beleive him you also don't know what your talking about. Cause he is talking out of his ass.

"they grew up with alot of niggas from different families"

NO THEY DIDN'T. They grew up in the hood. Blacks are not allowed in the mafia, and broke ones from the hood, lol that has to be a joke.

i never said anything about blacks being in the mob, you're right about that part
 
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FrozenMind;730697 said:
If you beleive him you also don't know what your talking about. Cause he is talking out of his ass.
"they grew up with alot of niggas from different families"
NO THEY DIDN'T. They grew up in the hood. Blacks are not allowed in the mafia, and broke ones from the hood, lol that has to be a joke.

NO THEY DIDN'T. They grew up in the hood. Blacks are not allowed in the mafia, and broke ones from the hood, lol that has to be a joke

You sound stupid, stop reading 5 Mafia books and start living the life.

Blacks dont have to join the Mafia, but that dosent mean the Mafia dosent form parterships with black folk. You ever heard of Bumpy Johnson you bookworm?

Go read about Crazy Joe Gallo and the "blacks" that he worked with in his family
 
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FrozenMind;730646 said:
Get your head out of your ass. Staten Island is not a stronghold for mob operations. Rich mobsters have houses out there on the other side of town 20 miles away from where the wu came from. There business is mostly in the city. Where the money is. LOL are you calling the all black projects a mafia stronghold? I could suggest a couple books for you to read before you say such stupid things. Ive read 5 books about the mafia, all over 750 pages long, and what im telling you is the real.

1. Wu tang would not be "cool" with the mob. The mob may have extorted them, used them, or someone who knows someone who is affiliated with the mob may have sold them dope or guns. But they are not "cool" with them.

2. If they were "cool" with them, lets just assume. Ghost, rae, rza, and all there family members would have been on a missing persons list after OB4CL came out. Even acknowledging the mafia exists to the public when you are currently in the mob is grounds for a hit.

Now lets talk about NaS, Cormega, and AZ, and all the fantasy ignorant mob shit they put out.

With that being said, I still think they all made great music, and I am big fans, same with wu.

LMAO..............I luv when niggas Talk about a City they DOnt know shit about...........Yes Fool, thats all Mob Terrortiy, they live there and they run SHit there........the had Spots all over NYC; Allerton AVe, Morris park, Castle Hill In the BX, Bensonhurst, and other Hoods In Bk, Parts of Queens, niggas was Doin shit In Halrem too. But they was all in SI, they was runnin SI, even when they Fell off THey still Got shit Done over there. U can Red as many books as u want, I live here, NYC is My Hood. Im tellin u, they run SHit in SI.........Jsut Like Jersey, they Pretty much Run shit DOwn there Too...........
 
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hrap-120;730758 said:
God made New York for his chosen people.

hrap how can u ryde fa ny/upnorth so hard when they b shittin on da westcoast all da time????
 
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Zack Morris Swag;730768 said:
you are the weirdest nigga i ever came across
It was a joke...careful, with a name like Zack Morris Swag you are mos def a fa99itt, and a cracka so chill with the N-word.
 
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