Rick Ross is the best rapper alive

[jrod44]

If his music was the only thing niggas could see then he would have been a multi-platinum artist but if that CO shit came to light he would've lost his career & we'd be calling him HipHop's Milli Vanilli. You gotta consider that if he was spittin that talk & had that CO shit in his past he woulda been making records with the likes of the Wu Tang, dog pound, pac, big & more and quite frankly they wouldnt be cool associating themselves with that type of shit in an era where how hard u were was crucial. Back then mafioso rap was the movement.

Once again, and i cant make this point anymore. That shit might be like that, if he isnt with some strong people, that rings true today and back then. For all we know that story never sees the light of day, but in this day and age, it can be leaked on the internet through a million outlets, while then there were only 2 or 3 outlets or magazines, and lets say the right guy says nah put that story to sleep, then what?

 

[a_list]

U dont think so? Dont nationwide artist go platinum at their peak?

the audience has shrunk so a gold rapper is prolly national now

 

[jrod44]

anyhow, Ross would have been Biggie back then, Biggie wasnt about what he rapped about, he got with a slick ass producer who dressed him up and made him something he wasnt a player and a popper, but that gets a pass because it happened in the 90's

 

[Stew]

the audience has shrunk so a gold rapper is prolly national now

The audience? Dude gets mad radio play dont he? I could be wrong cause I dont listen to the radio so I dont know.

 

[H-Rap 180]

I mean that shit is just basic math you feel me Rap? I mean if a boxer got hit with a mean right hook and stumbled but didnt fall down, I gotta say he gotta strong chin? I cant keep calling him a sucker for getting hit, when he is still fighting and connecting his damn self.

Rozay knew that people outside of Miami might eventually find out and some people would understand and some wouldn't.

...so with his back against the wall he went to war, he lured 50cent into battle and exposed him as a rapper who had lost touch with the streets and couldn't make music that the streets were feeling. He won the war and was rewarded with a Gold album and single in addition to 3 young and up coming artists who were willing to put their careers in his hands.

To the Victor go the spoils

 

[BackInWhite]

so you think wutang could drop a cd today and go platinum?

 

[jrod44]

The audience? Dude gets mad radio play dont he? I could be wrong cause I dont listen to the radio so I dont know.

come on man, again basic math, gotta figure there are more people listening to music today than there was 10 or 15 years ago, but yet you can go #1 selling 90k records some weeks now adays.

Chingy went platinum. Nuff said.

 

[Stew]

come on man, again basic math, gotta figure there are more people listening to music today than there was 10 or 15 years ago, but yet you can go #1 selling 90k records some weeks now adays.

Chingy went platinum. Nuff said.

But all that says is, their was nobody popular dropping that same week as you. Best believe his record label knows exactly when to drop that album so he has that "#1 album"

 

[darkrain]

Rick Ross would be the worst rapper in the 90's and nobody would gives a shit about him especially in early 90's......Rick Ross had no chance. He would be all right if he's on No Limit or Cash Money but won't be remember just like they all forgot about No Limit/Cash Money roster but their music are garbage.

Didn't Rick Ross was with Trick Daddy at the time? He was nobody...and what make you think he would do great in 90s?

 

[jrod44]

Rozay knew that people outside of Miami might eventually find out and some people would understand and some wouldn't.

...so with his back against the wall he went to war, he lured 50cent into battle and exposed him as a rapper who had lost touch with the streets and couldn't make music that the streets were feeling. He won the war and was rewarded with a Gold album and single in addition to 3 young and up coming artists who were willing to put their careers in his hands.

To the Victor go the spoils

No doubt. But I think there was some other shit too. Im gonna make it real simple, first dude who really puts it out there, dead, next dude, beat up badly. Then its rarely talked about again by most media people. People he disses, become cool with him, whole industry co signs. Just saying. That shit could have happened in the 90's.

 

[jrod44]

But all that says is, their was nobody popular dropping that same week as you. Best believe his record label knows exactly when to drop that album so he has that "#1 album"

thats not all that means. Lets take Em, you gotta figure his fan base has grown because there are more people in the age bracket of say 13-40, who listen to him, yet he sold 4-5-6 million less than he sold 10 years ago.

So, i know you get the point.

 

[Stew]

Rick Ross would be the worst rapper in the 90's and nobody would gives a shit about him especially in early 90's......Rick Ross had no chance. He would be all right if he's on No Limit or Cash Money but won't be remember just like they all forgot about No Limit/Cash Money roster but their music are garbage.

Didn't Rick Ross was with Trick Daddy at the time? He was nobody...and what make you think he would do great in 90s?

Lets not forget he tried to take the diss route after that and dissed TI.

 

[a_list]

The audience? Dude gets mad radio play dont he? I could be wrong cause I dont listen to the radio so I dont know.

when i happen to listen to the radio, he gets burn but that doesnt = record sales, i think that people are just not into this shyt like they use to be....im not comparing shyt talent wise but ross's music is a lot more radio friendly then say a mobb depp of the 90's but their albums sold better than ross....i kno that pirating is a factor now but peoples iterest isnt there as well

 

[bmoreeast]

so you think wutang could drop a cd today and go platinum?

Yeah niggas are playing wit Apples and Oranges right now.

Look at alot of the rappers that niggas call greats and imagine them coming out now. Most of them niggas careers wouldnt have lasted a year.

 

[jrod44]

Lets not forget he tried to take the diss route after that and dissed TI.

lets not forget TI's muscle said he had to talk to Ross and squash that, so obivously someone felt Ross was a threat somehow.

 

[nujerz84]

Doubtful...u had to be nice on the mic..

 

[Stew]

lets not forget TI's muscle said he had to talk to Ross and squash that, so obivously someone felt Ross was a threat somehow.

Whats that gotta do with Ross trynna start beef for no reason tho? No way he felt Ross the underground nobody was a threat musically.

 

[bmoreeast]

when i happen to listen to the radio, he gets burn but that doesnt = record sales, i think that people are just not into this shyt like they use to be....im not comparing shyt talent wise but ross's music is a lot more radio friendly then say a mobb depp of the 90's but their albums sold better than ross....i kno that pirating is a factor now but peoples iterest isnt there as well

Theres alot of factors for why records dont sell like they did back in the 90's.

Music wasnt as accessible as it is now so when a album dropped niggas went to the store and brought that shit cuz they wanted to be the first in the hood blasting a niggas album. Now a days it aint like that you can hear a nigga shit on i-tunes, youtube, mixtapes, wateva.

Mobb Deep, Jay Z, Nas, or Wu-tang sold that many albums when they first came out either. Shit sold off the word of mouth so sometimes it would take yrs for a nigga album to go Platinum, even Gold.

 

[Stew]

Theres alot of factors for why records dont sell like they did back in the 90's.

Music wasnt as accessible as it is now so when a album dropped niggas went to the store and brought that shit cuz they wanted to be the first in the hood blasting a niggas album. Now a days it aint like that you can hear a nigga shit on i-tunes, youtube, mixtapes, wateva.

Mobb Deep, Jay Z, Nas, or Wu-tang sold that many albums when they first came out either. Shit sold off the word of mouth so sometimes it would take yrs for a nigga album to go Platinum, even Gold.

Good point and very true.

 

[a_list]

Theres alot of factors for why records dont sell like they did back in the 90's.

Music wasnt as accessible as it is now so when a album dropped niggas went to the store and brought that shit cuz they wanted to be the first in the hood blasting a niggas album. Now a days it aint like that you can hear a nigga shit on i-tunes, youtube, mixtapes, wateva.

Mobb Deep, Jay Z, Nas, or Wu-tang sold that many albums when they first came out either. Shit sold off the word of mouth so sometimes it would take yrs for a nigga album to go Platinum, even Gold.

i can pretty much agree with this but wu sold out the gate i believe and rd was gold maybe a year after its release