Rick Ross is the best rapper alive

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"The dumb are mostly Intrigued by the drum"- Masta Killa

speaks volumes in this thread.
 
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H-Rap 180;2983895 said:
In the early 90's most of the Souths rappers were regional, it wasn't untill late mid & late 90's that Dungeon Family gave the South nation-wide acclaim for lyricism...of course Scarface was an exception.

NY still dominated the 90s with an iron fist, while Master P. Flooded the market with inferior product that sold units despite it's quality, so yeah it's easy to stand out when it's very little competition in your backyard, and it's easy to sell when you the only D-boys on the block.

Thats why they werent getting national attention. Just wasnt enough material from quality artist.
 
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hlf;2983907 said:
"The dumb are mostly Intrigued by the drum"- Masta Killa

speaks volumes in this thread.

nah man, you acting like Ross is some weakling on the mic, dude can flat out rhyme, he gets more play because of the BMF's and Hustlins but most of his fans appreciate that Tears of Joy, that Valley of Death, that Usual Suspect, that Mafia Music type shit.
 
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jrod44;2983927 said:
nah man, you acting like Ross is some weakling on the mic, dude can flat out rhyme, he gets more play because of the BMF's and Hustlins but most of his fans appreciate that Tears of Joy, that Valley of Death, that Usual Suspect, that Mafia Music type shit.

First of all, somebody already came in here and said they dont care about rhyme schemes and all that shit so thats a perfect example. Secondly he doesnt have multiple rhyme schemes. And last, you think he can rhyme with the best? Hell nah. He's living off his beats and hooks, dont deny it.
 
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Gangsta Shit;2983887 said:
and this shit right here is whats wrong with hip hop right now

yall just want it dumbed down so much that retards gon literally start spittin. foh with that bullshit

it's call life, it's not about what u say, but how u say it... the difference between a 2pac/ice cube and a nas , nas go in deeper then both dudes on real life situations... but folks fucks with pac n cube more cause of how they said their messages.... while nas got the lil raspy laid back tone, with the grocery list reading flow... cubes n pac too a greater extent rapped with conviction...therefore when they rap shyt niggaz ain't tryna here, based of how they said they shyt, u had 2 stop....based of the fact that they're tones commanded attention...

plus rozay flow delivery n tone >>>>> 90% of rappers in rap period...
 
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jrod44;2983886 said:
but boss and vanilla ice werent really affiliated. I tried to say that before, but it obviously went over peoples heads. If Ross wasnt with some strong peoples, his ass would have gotten ate today, the mere fact he is still here, and thriving says alot to me, about this mans standing. Thats just logic to me. Maybe Im blind or dumb, but I thought dog was a wrap when that shit came out, few years later, dude is bigger than he ever was.

i really didnt think that dude was a wrap because people really dont care about peoples background.....i might have to refer to 757 and say look at ems situation....now i know a majority of ems fans are white so they dont care wat he said but a mc search racist tape in 91 wouldve prolly got him bannished.....honestly ross aint major and i aint the biggest fan but it seems that dude is bringing back that middle level rapper meaning you can move units without overly going pop.....get just as much radio spins as someone who tripled what he sold.....reminds me of shyt like i gotcha open remix would be on hot 97 all day
 
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hlf;2983947 said:
First of all, somebody already came in here and said they dont care about rhyme schemes and all that shit so thats a perfect example. Secondly he doesnt have multiple rhyme schemes. And last, you think he can rhyme with the best? Hell nah. He's living off his beats, dont deny it.

I think his catalog is impressive, and yes I think he can say he is up there as an MC.As far as the best technical rapper, i cant say that, but he isnt Gucci Mane here, he is very good.
 
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that c.o shit alone would get him laughed out of hip hop. in the 90's you either had to be nice or have a niche (quad city dj's, uncle luke, tag team etc) ross aint nice enough on the mic and he isn't a niche rapper so he would have been a regional legend at best.
 
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jrod44;2983886 said:
but boss and vanilla ice werent really affiliated. I tried to say that before, but it obviously went over peoples heads. If Ross wasnt with some strong peoples, his ass would have gotten ate today, the mere fact he is still here, and thriving says alot to me, about this mans standing. Thats just logic to me. Maybe Im blind or dumb, but I thought dog was a wrap when that shit came out, few years later, dude is bigger than he ever was.

You ain't blind or dumb, you just have a better understanding than the average forum poster.

I can judge a person based on their associations/affiliations better than I can their teenage employment history.

If real street dudes co-sign you and real street dudes in the industry fuck with you then it dosent matter what some blonde-haired, freckle-faced pre-teen from South Dakota says on a rap forum.

As long as your street ties are solid in your city you can survive anything, or if you are Emenim and you made racist rap songs you can survive by relying on your white fan base.
 
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jamacia;2983973 said:
that c.o shit alone would get him laughed out of hip hop. in the 90's you either had to be nice or have a niche (quad city dj's, uncle luke, tag team etc) ross aint nice enough on the mic and he isn't a niche rapper so he would have been a regional legend at best.

see, I think he is still a regional rapper, except that region is now bigger. Miami wasnt like this back then. South Beach wasnt close to this man.

and again, how would they find this info?
 
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jrod44;2983990 said:
see, I think he is still a regional rapper, except that region is now bigger. Miami wasnt like this back then. South Beach wasnt close to this man.

and again, how would they find this info?

ross aint no regional
 
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H-Rap 180;2983980 said:
You ain't blind or dumb, you just have a better understanding than the average forum poster.

I can judge a person based on their associations/affiliations better than I can their teenage employment history.

If real street dudes co-sign you and real street dudes in the industry fuck with you then it dosent matter what some blonde-haired, freckle-faced pre-teen from South Dakota says on a rap forum.

As long as your street ties are solid in your city you can survive anything, or if you are Emenim and you made racist rap songs you can survive by relying on your white fan base.

I mean that shit is just basic math you feel me Rap? I mean if a boxer got hit with a mean right hook and stumbled but didnt fall down, I gotta say he gotta strong chin? I cant keep calling him a sucker for getting hit, when he is still fighting and connecting his damn self.
 
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jamacia;2984003 said:
ross aint no regional

the point was, because Miami isnt anymore either. Miami is becoming LA down South. See what Im saying, so just like when getting big in LA was big everywhere, getting big in Miami is now getting big everywhere.
 
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hlf;2984007 said:
U dont think so? Dont nationwide artist go platinum at their peak?

we in a different time period....where most artists from every genre are struggling to sell...and those who not, are selling only half or 75% of what they would of sold....
 
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Smo-King Locs;2983953 said:
it's call life, it's not about what u say, but how u say it... the difference between a 2pac/ice cube and a nas , nas go in deeper then both dudes on real life situations... but folks fucks with pac n cube more cause of how they said their messages.... while nas got the lil raspy laid back tone, with the grocery list reading flow... cubes n pac too a greater extent rapped with conviction...therefore when they rap shyt niggaz ain't tryna here, based of how they said they shyt, u had 2 stop....based of the fact that they're tones commanded attention...

plus rozay flow delivery n tone >>>>> 90% of rappers in rap period...

hahahaha. ignant ass youngsta
 
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jamacia;2984021 said:
yeah but this era is different people not seeling like they used to.

Smo-King Locs;2984022 said:
we in a different time period....where most artists from every genre are struggling to sell...and those who not, are selling only half or 75% of what they would of sold....

So he's like a B artist, I mean rapper then. You wouldnt think that If you were a member in The Reason
 
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