Rewriting Evolution ~ Darwin was wrong

[Drew_Ali]

You cant believe in GOD and evolution and be a good Muslim, Jew, Christian, Buddhist in the strictest adherence of the word. Because it says that GOD created us in these religions, not that we evolved. If you believe in evolution it contradict your religious beliefs, so why believe in GOD?

so you don't understand science or other religions. or are you some sort of theological and scientific expert.

I am....

 

[Drew_Ali]

@ohhhla ...... Et.al

I have no intentions of indoctrinating anyone into my "religion" or belief system.......

Again.....

This thread was created for scientific discussion

No, it isn't.

Not if it was about Climate changes, I would took this seriously.

Review the op and try again.......

 

[Drew_Ali]

You cant believe in GOD and evolution and be a good Muslim, Jew, Christian, Buddhist in the strictest adherence of the word. Because it says that GOD created us in these religions, not that we evolved. If you believe in evolution it contradict your religious beliefs, so why believe in GOD?

so you don't understand science or other religions. or are you some sort of theological and scientific expert.

I am....

really? what degrees do you hold in those fields?

Bachelors ~ History

Masters ~ Anthropology

doctorate~ In progress...........

No internet University.......

All nationally accredited State Universities..............

 

[ohhhla]

Looks like Bambu letting in her personal beliefs getting in his way of reality.

No, biggie, it happens.

 

[Drew_Ali]

Looks like Bambu letting in her personal beliefs getting in his way of reality.

No, biggie, it happens.

Again nigga......

Reply to evidence........

Or continue to troll.......

 

[ohhhla]

Looks like Bambu letting in her personal beliefs getting in his way of reality.

No, biggie, it happens.

Again nigga......

Reply to evidence........

Or continue to troll.......

Go look the shit up.

Oceanic beat you long time ago with this debate.

 

[Drew_Ali]

LOL....

My friend is on a vacation.......

However @Oceanic could never fuck with me my nigga...........

The threads that he has been ethered in are about 5 now............

 

[The True Flesh]

Go get yourself a microscope. Look at bacteria. Watch it evolve. Disprove your own moron assumptions. Apologize for wasting everyone's time.

I have a degree in Marketing. But I'm not going to say t he Executives at APPLE "were wrong" in how they marketed the fucking iPOD. Why? It would be stupid as the evidence clearly shows they did a good fucking job marketing the iPOD.

I like how you attack Darwin's EVIDENCE yet we are supposed to just take your word for it you're qualified to speak on this subject. NIgga show us your degree. Show us the receipts!

Secondly, Darwin's theory was among the first of it's kind. He didn't have the technology we have today so of course there are going to be discrepancies. HOWEVER, his core principle was absolutely correct. LIVING BEINGS EVOLVE. Simple as that. It's common knowledge. Nobody has time to wait for you assholes to catch up to the fucking 21st Century. Believe your nonsense in another fucking time period. And say hello to Kunte Kente and Chicken George and tell that bitch Kizzy to comb her gotdamn hair. Cuz thats how far you'd have to go to find somebody with an IQ over 125 to believe evolution is somehow a hoax.

There is no legitimate debate. A legitimate debate is when both sides have good points. Anti-Evolution side doesnt pass the "really nigga?" test. A fucking magical Jew who impregnated his own Mother and killed himself but never died yet rose from the death in 3 days (even though Gods never die) created animals in less than a day. REALLY NIGGA?

Evolution was wrong? Even though there's both skeletal remains. MITOCHONDRIAL DNA from our ancestors and fossils that have been carbon dated for accuracy? REALLY NIGGA?!

If you are over the age of 12 and you think a woman was created from a man's rib when you yourself came out of a goddamn woman you need to beat the living fuck out of yourself.

Once again here is the anti-Evolution side in a nutshell: "IM TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND SCIENCE SO I BELIEVE IN MAGICAL-NESS."

Sheepspeak

 

[zombie]

You cant believe in GOD and evolution and be a good Muslim, Jew, Christian, Buddhist in the strictest adherence of the word. Because it says that GOD created us in these religions, not that we evolved. If you believe in evolution it contradict your religious beliefs, so why believe in GOD?

This is sheer stupidity.

They're Christian, Muslims, Jews and etc who accept evolution.

For example: Kai is Muslim who accept evolution as fact.

Zombie accept evolution and he's a Christian.

It says that we were CREATED in the image of GOD. Not that we EVOLVED into the image of GOD. And @kai my study is psychology with a concentration in abnormal psychology. Never said I was an expert on religion. These are just my opinions. I say do whatever makes you happy as long as your not hurting anyone else.

What is the image of god ? what is god ? how do you define that ? and how does this relate to our being and existence ? religions expound on these questions but usually deal with these things in a metaphysical way and gives you metaphysical anwers. evolution only gives you physical answers. we were created in the image of god but how? evolution is just a possible answer to the " how".

 

[ohhhla]

You cant believe in GOD and evolution and be a good Muslim, Jew, Christian, Buddhist in the strictest adherence of the word. Because it says that GOD created us in these religions, not that we evolved. If you believe in evolution it contradict your religious beliefs, so why believe in GOD?

This is sheer stupidity.

They're Christian, Muslims, Jews and etc who accept evolution.

For example: Kai is Muslim who accept evolution as fact.

Zombie accept evolution and he's a Christian.

It says that we were CREATED in the image of GOD. Not that we EVOLVED into the image of GOD. And @kai my study is psychology with a concentration in abnormal psychology. Never said I was an expert on religion. These are just my opinions. I say do whatever makes you happy as long as your not hurting anyone else.

Psychology is "broscience"

It's not observable or testable like Evolution,physics and etc.

 

[Drew_Ali]

You cant believe in GOD and evolution and be a good Muslim, Jew, Christian, Buddhist in the strictest adherence of the word. Because it says that GOD created us in these religions, not that we evolved. If you believe in evolution it contradict your religious beliefs, so why believe in GOD?

This is sheer stupidity.

They're Christian, Muslims, Jews and etc who accept evolution.

For example: Kai is Muslim who accept evolution as fact.

Zombie accept evolution and he's a Christian.

It says that we were CREATED in the image of GOD. Not that we EVOLVED into the image of GOD. And @kai my study is psychology with a concentration in abnormal psychology. Never said I was an expert on religion. These are just my opinions. I say do whatever makes you happy as long as your not hurting anyone else.

Psychology is "broscience"

It's not observable or testable like Evolution,physics and etc.

LOL.....

What have you studied???????

formal studies????

 

[Premeer]

sooooooo........ are atheists still believing scientific theories that changes every few months? they swear every theory is real, but yet, every theory gets debunked every few months for a new 1, to get debunked in another few months....

a "wise" man would be a fool to believe something that is ever changing in "theory".

/thread

 

[Drew_Ali]

Ahhh where was I ????

Oh Yes...........

"The tree of life (TOL), as an organizing metaphor and concept, has been greatly challenged by the discovery of extensive horizontal gene transfer. While various attempts have been made to preserve the traditional TOL, other efforts are now focused on phylogenetic analysis and evolutionary reconstruction beyond the TOL. The articles in this special thematic series of Biology Direct demonstrate methodologically and conceptually new and constructive ways of working with and thinking about the TOL and its phylogenetic legacy. Whether these approaches modify or ultimately reject the TOL, they show the wealth of insight gained by thinking beyond a central icon of evolutionary biology."
http://www.biology-direct.com/series/tree_of_life

Early evolution without a tree of life?????

Life is a chemical reaction. Three major transitions in early evolution are considered without recourse to a tree of life. The origin of prokaryotes required a steady supply of energy and electrons, probably in the form of molecular hydrogen stemming from serpentinization. Microbial genome evolution is not a treelike process because of lateral gene transfer and the endosymbiotic origins of organelles. The lack of true intermediates in the prokaryote-to-eukaryote transition has a bioenergetic cause.

This article was reviewed by Dan Graur, W. Ford Doolittle, Eugene V. Koonin and Christophe Malaterre.
http://www.biology-direct.com/content/6/1/36

 

[blacktux]

Humans are apes, have been and always will be.

You gotta do your research.

Evolution is vast and difficult topic.

I can't sit there and tell you from 500 millions ago to the presents.

You know many species they are and were???

ok.. so where did all this life on this earth from man, animals, to plants, trees, etc., come from?

and dont you find it funny that everything in and on this earth is linked and needed eachother to live here? like if bee's, for instance, went extinct; life would drastically change.

us as humans, even the earth, need every animal that is here to maintain the earth.

almost like everything that is here, is 'meant' to be here, right? cuz if it has no reason, then it wouldnt be here, no?

so how does everything here perfectly fit together, by accident?

Going to continue reading thread, but just thought id coment on this here.

If everything on earth perfectly fit togethee, there wouldnt be extinct species. Do you know what percentage of species throughout earths history are extinct?

Educate yourself.

 

[blacktux]

Oh yeah and lol and smh at "natural selection" and "evolution" not being smart enough to stop species from dying, but yet smart enough to evolve a human being.



More wtf here

Somehow "evolution" and "natural selection" can will atoms into motion which gave birth to an untold number of species, but yet "evolution" and "natural selection" wasn't smart enough to stop the process of aging and death? Like for real?



More lol here

A combination of atoms, motion, time, and chance has fashioned everything that we currently have, but yet "evolution" and "natural selection" couldn't figure out how to stop death?



More lol here

WOW!!!

If death stopped life would have to stop. The earth only has so much space and resources.

More people=more competition and more violence fighting over resources=more DEATHS.

Death and life are tied together. Everything that starts must end nothing is infinite.

 

[Drew_Ali]

Humans are apes, have been and always will be.

You gotta do your research.

Evolution is vast and difficult topic.

I can't sit there and tell you from 500 millions ago to the presents.

You know many species they are and were???

ok.. so where did all this life on this earth from man, animals, to plants, trees, etc., come from?

and dont you find it funny that everything in and on this earth is linked and needed eachother to live here? like if bee's, for instance, went extinct; life would drastically change.

us as humans, even the earth, need every animal that is here to maintain the earth.

almost like everything that is here, is 'meant' to be here, right? cuz if it has no reason, then it wouldnt be here, no?

so how does everything here perfectly fit together, by accident?

Going to continue reading thread, but just thought id coment on this here.

If everything on earth perfectly fit togethee, there wouldnt be extinct species. Do you know what percentage of species throughout earths history are extinct?

Educate yourself.

Thanks for reading brother.......

You make a great point about the math involved in evolution.......

There are several mathematicians that disagree with the probabilities of of the smallest self-replicating organism arising from pure random chance..........

" 'Survival of the fittest' and 'natural selection.' No matter what phraseology one generates, the basic fact remains the same: any physical change of any size, shape or form is strictly the result of purposeful alignment of billions of nucleotides (in the DNA). Nature or species do not have the capacity for rearranging them, nor adding to them. Consequently no leap (saltation) can occur from one species to another. The only way we know for a DNA to be altered is through a meaningful intervention from an outside source of intelligence: one who knows what it is doing, such as our genetic engineers are now performing in their laboratories."

Cohen, I.L. (1984)

Darwin Was Wrong: A Study in Probabilities

New York: NW Research Publications, Inc., p. 209

"Cohen showed that the purely mathematical probability AGAINST that organism arising by pure chance is a number with (over) 180,000 zeroes after it (ie., 10 to the 180,000th power.) This is mind-boggling when we consider that superscript numbers, or "powers" tell how many zeroes are in a number.

When dividing superscript numbers, we subtract powers. Since there are 10 to the 80th power seconds in the evolutionary time-frame, there would have had to have been 10 to the 178,920th power random tries PER SECOND for purely random chance to accomplish creation of the SIMPLEST living organism. And that would only get the first organism. Mathematicians consider any probability with a power greater than 50 (that is, a number with 50 zeroes) to be truly "impossible."

Mad impossibilities connected to evolution...................

Educate yourself..................

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Oh yeah and lol and smh at "natural selection" and "evolution" not being smart enough to stop species from dying, but yet smart enough to evolve a human being.



More wtf here

Somehow "evolution" and "natural selection" can will atoms into motion which gave birth to an untold number of species, but yet "evolution" and "natural selection" wasn't smart enough to stop the process of aging and death? Like for real?



More lol here

A combination of atoms, motion, time, and chance has fashioned everything that we currently have, but yet "evolution" and "natural selection" couldn't figure out how to stop death?



More lol here

WOW!!!

If death stopped life would have to stop. The earth only has so much space and resources.

More people=more competition and more violence fighting over resources=more DEATHS.

Death and life are tied together. Everything that starts must end nothing is infinite.

Have you ever traveled anywhere my friend? Do you know how much space is on the earth? Have you been on a road trip before? Have you not seen the vast emptiness of land that is in the United States alone? Heck, the entire population of the world can fit inside the state of Rhode Island! Space on earth is not the problem, sin is the problem.

Before sin was introduced into the world there was no death. The infinite God created His creation free from death, decay, and destruction. But when sin entered into the world, death came.

But if you know the LORD Jesus Christ, death has lost it's sting! The grave will not have victory over those who have been redeemed by Him! Hallelujah! Come to Jesus Christ my friend so that He can open your eyes and give you eternal life! He loves you my friend. Amen.

 

[Black Boy King]

You cant believe in GOD and evolution and be a good Muslim, Jew, Christian, Buddhist in the strictest adherence of the word. Because it says that GOD created us in these religions, not that we evolved. If you believe in evolution it contradict your religious beliefs, so why believe in GOD?

This is sheer stupidity.

They're Christian, Muslims, Jews and etc who accept evolution.

For example: Kai is Muslim who accept evolution as fact.

Zombie accept evolution and he's a Christian.

It says that we were CREATED in the image of GOD. Not that we EVOLVED into the image of GOD. And @kai my study is psychology with a concentration in abnormal psychology. Never said I was an expert on religion. These are just my opinions. I say do whatever makes you happy as long as your not hurting anyone else.

Psychology is "broscience"

It's not observable or testable like Evolution,physics and etc.

woowwww......

niggas in here makin up words now, this has gotten completely out of control

 

[VIBE]

Oh yeah and lol and smh at "natural selection" and "evolution" not being smart enough to stop species from dying, but yet smart enough to evolve a human being.



More wtf here

Somehow "evolution" and "natural selection" can will atoms into motion which gave birth to an untold number of species, but yet "evolution" and "natural selection" wasn't smart enough to stop the process of aging and death? Like for real?



More lol here

A combination of atoms, motion, time, and chance has fashioned everything that we currently have, but yet "evolution" and "natural selection" couldn't figure out how to stop death?



More lol here

Everything has to die.

Circle of life.

Stop being this stupid, really.

 

[VIBE]

I can't stand threads like this, the ignorance is rampant.