Rewriting Evolution ~ Darwin was wrong

[zombie]

God made evolution, both god and evolution can live in harmony.

you are confused, mon! are you a atheist, or are you a christian.... you playing the fence. pick a side and stick to it.

by your logic, 1st version of man was damn near a monkey. and Jesus is a caveman or something close.

no wonder you think babylon is a "mental state". your understanding is sorely lacking.

I am a christian i am just not as closed minded and clearly uneducated as you are and can you please stop with the "mon"shit .I never said babylon was a mental state dummy i said it was a demonic force that inhabits the whole world. there are over nine different major branches of christianity we don't all have the exact same theology.

You seem to follow what i call childlike and infantile evangelical branch that is so popular in america today.

far from a child.. i got different speeds, like you suppose to. when im dealing with ignorant MFers, i tend to act up a lil more than i would normally.

and atheists, are as ignorant as they come.

i pray to God that he blesses me with more patience dealing with ignorance.. atheists really test my blood level. if i can talk to a atheist without my blood boiling, then i can talk to anybody.

I am not an atheist, so relax . when you read the bible you have to think . evolution may explain how our physical bodies came to be but who you are from a spiritual standpoint is not really your physical body, we are made in god's image but what is the image of a spirit?

The image is something in the very nature of humans, in the way in which we are made. It refers to something a human is rather than something a human has or does. By virtue of being human, one is in the image of God.

Also, the image refers to the elements in the human makeup that enable fulfillment of human destiny. The image is the powers of personality that make humans, like God, beings capable of interacting with other persons, of thinking and reflecting, and of willing freely.

Yes but what is really a human?? All the things you listed do not oppose evolution, what you are basically saying here is that the image of god is the human spirit which can also be called human consciousness which i believe to be correct. Still this does not exclude evolution.

If you really want to break it down, there were only 3 "true" humans that ever lived on planet earth.

Adam and Eve before the fall

and

Jesus Christ

All 3 of them lived how humans were intended to live. Prior to the fall in the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve had perfect fellowship with the Father. Jesus Christ, likewise, had perfect fellowship with the Father.

Jesus Christ obeyed the Father perfectly. Adam and Eve didn't thus the reason why the fall happened.

Also, Jesus Christ always displayed love for humans.

You see, God intended that a similar sense of fellowship, obedience, and love characterize humans relationship to God, and that humans be bound with one another in love. We are completely human only when manifesting these characteristics. And this has only been achieved by Adam and Eve before the fall, and Jesus Christ.

Evolution on the other hand cares nothing about love, obedience, or fellowship. Why? Because God is erased from the equation. When that is done love is out the door(survival of the fittest), obedience is non-existent (do as thou wilt), and fellowship is scoffed at (hating God and fellow man).

None of what you just posted proves that god could not simply be guiding evolution, he created the environment evolution happens primarily as a reaction to the environment so since a god would know all possible reactions he could be the force behind our evolution. This is the reason why the answers to how we came to be in existence won't be answered by biology. biology is just a reaction to the universe existing, if science can find out and understand how reality came into being then and only then will science have it's questions about the existence or non-existence of god answered. Physics is stuck at the quantum level, where we have even less real proof and where there is even more loopholes and guesswork. currently we think that all matter exists because of quantum fluctuations in a vaccum which is the same as saying that the universe exist because it is possible for it to.

If God created evolution on a macro scale, one species evolving into a new a better species, you have to throw out what the Bible clearly says in Genesis 1 and 2. Upon doing that your left with doubting the whole existence of the word of God because it can't be trusted.

Genesis 2:7 states "and man became a living being." If God was the guiding force behind evolution, why would He specifically state that man "became" a living being when God formed him and breathed into him the breath of life? If your position is correct, that means that man owes his existence to some other primitive life form, that is separate from what God laid out in the scriptures. It totally contradicts what scripture teaches, which is that man was formed by God on the 6th day of creation. God was the direct cause of everything, He is the intelligent source of everything we see, He is the uncaused cause that set everything in motion. Amen.

It says that man became a living being and god formed man but it does not say how, evolution is the best "How we have" currently. Nothing you just posted contradicts what i am telling you if you understand what i am telling you. by creating the universe god created the primitive life form that our bodies came from. it's the creation of the universe that needs to be dealt with and not biology.

The word of God does tell us how God formed man. He created man from the dust of the ground (Genesis 2:7). And God created woman from the side of man (Genesis 2:21).

If evolution is true than it contradicts what the scriptures teach. If man "evolved" from another life form, that means that our existence was dependent on that other life form and not on God.

Do you realize that science basically says that the earth was created by trillions of particles ( dust) that clumped together? and that man like all things on earth came from this. the other life forms were dependent on the creation of the earth which was dependent on the sun which was dependent on the creation of the universe. God made the universe so therefor god made us all and there is no contradiction.

 

[DMTxTHC]

Oh yeah where did the first atom even come from? It just popped out of thin air and exploded? Lol. Evolution, natural selection, Big Bang got more holes in it than Swiss cheese. The pride of man really brings them down to a low level of being and thinking. Tragic.

LOL, where did God come from?.. creationism has mad holes in it b..

And how can it be a low-level of thinking when research on this topic has been going on for over a century?..

1. God didn't "come" from anywhere. The infinite had no beginning and He has no end. He has always existed. That's why He is God.

2. It's low level thinking because this thinking has led to the dismissal of God in the hearts and minds of countless souls. And where has this level of thinking gotten us? No where. It hasn't solved anything, except continuing the downward spiral of mans decent into the pit of destruction.

-There's no hope in evolution

-There's no promise in evolution

-There's no solution in evolution

It's all vain babbling that contributes absolutely nothing to the well-being of man. And actually it has and will continue to lead to the eternal destruction of souls for all those who go to the other side with this belief system. Amen.

Don't "amen" me, lol..

You claim we're spiraling into a pit of destruction as if there wasn't fucked up things going on in the past like Slavery, WW1, WW2, Partition of Africa etc. (which was orchestrated by Christians btw)..

But I'm digressing, since what I'm talking about doesn't directly relate to the topic at hand, which is Evolution..

 

[DMTxTHC]

Not saying that evolution is wrong, but Darwin was a bitch.. a real nigga shoulda stomped a mudhole in him..

 

[zombie]

Battyboy drew ali

i will step out your fucking thread now, you bitch keep flagging my post without reason, by the way i am not bambu you accused me of having an alias i have none.

 

[Drew_Ali]

I know you are not @Bambu......

Because he is I and I am him.........

 

[Ajackson17]

I have addressed it and yet no one responded to me. The core factor in evolution is real and those who do not believe it, well I blame their education for it.

You addressed it with your personal beliefs/feelings............

This was intended to be an academic/scientific debate......

Leave your feelings at the door.......

Feelings? I gave you a logical answer, but since you will noy look ay the factual information than I'm leaving this topic.

 

[ohhhla]

60 years from now

People are going to laugh at how people used to believe in creationism

 

[Drew_Ali]

After reading, I do still believe in the theory of evolution, but how we are going about it is probably very incorrect, but we now knowing that we need to change direction. Like @kai_vayla said its like a very complicated web.

And why humans because we are not in hazardous conditions to the point we have to gain certain features for us to survive and become better than we are. We may started evolving but not to anything like a predator perhaps in a way that we wouldn't realize.

This is what you said.......

& yes it is a "web" as described in my posts......

A web that ultimately disproves Darwin's Tree of Life/common descent.........

& his theory as well..........

 

[Drew_Ali]

Say fuck rap......

& read the Quran...........

 

[Drew_Ali]

60 years from now

People are going to laugh at how people used to believe in creationism

Kind of like how we laugh at how people believed in evolutionary vestigial remnants in humans......

tailbones.....

pineal gland.......

appendix.......

Body hair........

wisdom teeth.......

Junk DNA.........

Tree of Life........

The list of Darwinist horseshit gets bigger each day...................

 

[ohhhla]

60 years from now

People are going to laugh at how people used to believe in creationism

Kind of like how we laugh at how people believed in evolutionary vestigial remnants in humans......

tailbones.....

pineal gland.......

appendix.......

wisdom teeth.......

The list of Darwinist horseshit gets bigger each day...................

You forgot prostate too..

You won't win because you know why?

Humans are still monkeys and birds are still dinosaurs

And you forgot the body hair, nipples and erector pili

 

[Drew_Ali]

60 years from now

People are going to laugh at how people used to believe in creationism

Kind of like how we laugh at how people believed in evolutionary vestigial remnants in humans......

tailbones.....

pineal gland.......

appendix.......

wisdom teeth.......

The list of Darwinist horseshit gets bigger each day...................

You forgot prostate too..

You won't win because you know why?

Humans are still monkeys and birds are still dinosaurs

And you forgot the body hair, nipples and erector pili

Edit........

Thanks.....

I already won.......

 

[ohhhla]

Can you explain Snakes having pelvises?

Um, flightless birds and etc?

Clearly God wasn't an idiot

 

[Drew_Ali]

Can you explain Snakes having pelvises?

Um, flightless birds and etc?

Clearly God wasn't an idiot

You already witnessed the debunking of flightless birds and reptiles........

I will deconstruct them again here.......

But be specific..........

About the ALL's mental capacity........

Trust in the Lord with all your heart

and lean not on your own understanding........Proverbs 3 5

Loose translation " It is none of @ohhhla's business.......

 

[ohhhla]

So, basically we created even tho there's no evidence?

Yea, no. You're wrong.

You haven't won a nobel peace prize or had your shit peer-reviewed.

 

[VIBE]

Don't go back and forth with Bambu aka Bambi.

Dude is stupid.

 

[Drew_Ali]

You haven't won a nobel peace prize or had your shit peer-reviewed.

@ohhhla....

You dont know me nigga.......

And every reference that I posted has been peer reviewed..........

Quit trolling nigga.......

Or debate with evidence.................

 

[Dr. Stitch]

Anyone who acts like physical evolution occurs instantly, right before your eyes...u

You need to turn pokemon off because it has totally skewed your idea of the word...

To any so called cristians:

Why are there so many different religeous practices?..if theres only one God, why so many different religeons? And what makes YOURS the correct one? It wasnt here first...

 

[Drew_Ali]

Don't go back and forth with Bambu aka Bambi.

Dude is stupid.

Well get the fuck out of my thread faggot......

You don't have to contend with me @vibe.......

Your silence surrounding the evidence illustrates your true feelings and your ignorance.....

 

[ohhhla]

You haven't won a nobel peace prize or had your shit peer-reviewed.

@ohhhla....

You dont know me nigga.......

And every reference that I posted has been peer reviewed..........

Quit trolling nigga.......

Or debate with evidence.................

Why doesn't majority of Scientists accept this claim????