Racially Motivated Threads of the Social Lounge...

[Sovo_Nah]

do you know what the question was?

So Africans strong immune system made them victims? That it? White peoples diseases didn't kill off white people. They sick ass still took over. How? How the fuck do you take over a people that is healthier than you on their own land?

Gtfoh!

Why do you think Africans were mostly chosen to enslave anyway? Do we just make good ass slaves as oppose to any other race?

Would we be the number one candidate today as well? If not Black People then who?

They tried natives, but they kept dying from all the hard work and couldn't do as much work during the day. Blacks have always been physically superior, that's why we were slaves. I'm not making this up either, it's a huge part of Jamaican history to talk about why they chose black slaves and the impact it had on society. It's a part of the curriculum starting in 1st grade.

I would imagine it was the same in America.

European whites used their products to encourage powerful black leaders to sell alot of pre-existing slaves(at a higher rate than ever before in history), attack weaker tribes and europeans only did slave raids if a powerful black leaders allowed it

Slavery is not exclusive to Africans, yet modern(post 1500s) slavery was on a different and larger scale, whites werent the only ones getting rich......there were plenty of africans who , maybe blindsightedly so, benefitted from modern chattel slavery and the transatlantic slave trade

The Europeans decieved Africans yet the africans in power did not stop the slave trade while it was profitable

There are documents from 17th-20th century african leaders who regretted allowing europeans to deplete their own nations as well as africa in general

i keep forgetting that you one of those people who like to disagree just for the sake of it. i know now.

dont be mad cuz a my post made sum kinda cents.

i answered the question and you still ask why?

lol

 

[PPLSIntiative]

Really? So how advanced was Africa's navy then? And why wasn't their agricultural product as robust? And their political cohesion?

C'mon, son.

This has been debunked many times. Stop trying to steal cultural credit from the native Americans.

So what impact does the navy have on the conquering of the African interior? I'm guessing the same role it played in the conquering of the american interior, very limited. It is also very limited thinking to judge the advancement of a culture based solely on military strength.

Speaking to the debunking of the olmec african influence here is a recent article dealing with the issue: http://www.bradleyfarless.com/2011/02/olmecs-and-potential-african-influence.html

You can check it out there or not it's your decision. However I cannot help but notice that you need to keep this juxtaposition between european prowess and african civilization.

I'm a scholar of the world son. So before you speak to me you need to know to come correct otherwise I'll expose you every time.

 

[PPLSIntiative]

Are we still the prime candidates to be enslaved today?

Black people are very much still enslaved today. You ever read the 13th amendment. People rap about how it abolishes slavery within the united states, but really it abolishes slavery except in the case of punishment i;e prison time. This is why for the past 50 years the prison population has grown exponentially within the united states and disproportionately black men have been imprisoned. If you are imprisoned you are a legal slave. In fact there are companies out there that build overflow prisons, charge the state to house these prisoners and then force them to build textile goods. chances are if you see something that says 'made in america' it was manufactured by close to free labor.

Also the common school or public schools in black communities are so poor that children graduate ill equipped to work anything outside of the service industry. Talking about McFastfood, Walmart, Target, and int he meantime Blacks so rarely own and operate or even are employed by the stores within their communities. The little corner stores are mostly arab owned. So are the prepaid phone stores. McFast Food is a chain they employ black people, but the wages are subpar, it might as well be a feudal system where a person is tied to the land. So that means everybody is making money off of Black people except black people. If that is not a slave I don't know what is.

 

[Sovo_Nah]

damn, someone got briefed!

so since you so wise, Why was Afrikans better at cultivating rice and indigo in south carolina?

who reps the native americans? they dont like you. they dont like nobody. they the idiots of the U.S, they suffer because they have a point to prove.

2 posts im quoting. just dont feel like showing it.

 

[PPLSIntiative]

damn, someone got briefed!

so since you so wise, Why was Afrikans better at cultivating rice and indigo in south carolina?

who reps the native americans? they dont like you. they dont like nobody. they the idiots of the U.S, they suffer because they have a point to prove.

2 posts im quoting. just dont feel like showing it.

The relationship between natives and everyone else was complex. When it came to europeans, natives had no concept of personal land ownership, many tribes lived on a communal basis. property was shared and so naturally they had mercy on the early would be settlers when they were have starved and eating dirt cakes. Later on as the settlers turned to colonizers and became more aggressive, some tribes tried to fight back through guerilla warfare tactics while other tribes used the europeans to fight off rival tribes. This was an ongoing thing and again the only reason the colonizers conquered was because of accidental then purposeful spread of contagions such as small pox which wiped out whole peoples.

The seminole tribe in florida was one of the last badasses being led by tecumesh. they were whooped up on the spanish first and then the americans using jungle tactics until the americans decided to hire rival creek tribes to fight alongside them and eventually overwhelm them.

When it comes to blacks, there wee tribes who took in runaway slaves, but there were also tribes like the cherokee who tried to americanize through adopting christianity and owning slaves. This is why a lot of natives don't like cherokee.

And this is all the while tribes are being pushed further and further west through forced death marches and treaty after treaty with the US is broken all the while, sometimes within the same month it was signed.

You can read all about this in Howard Zinn's A people's history of the united states. its a very popular text which gives a more realistic point of view than the apple pie version we grew up with in school.

 

[JadaRoss]

this is a white guilt question

 

[PPLSIntiative]

this is a white guilt question

No such thing as white guilt, otherwise the government wouldn't be doing the same junk and americans wouldn't jock it like the last ride out of town.

 

[Chike]

Why do you think Africans were mostly chosen to enslave anyway?

The Europeans tried enslaving the natives, didnt work out to well considering the natives knew their own land too well and how to escape and defend themselves in familiar territory. So they exterminated the natives, and brought foreign people, mostly Black moors, but also africans and asians to do all the labor. Since the land was quite foreign to them all, it was easier to control them and keep them from escaping.

No matter who else was involved in the slave trade, it does not make it right and it does not in any way excuse what the europeans did and still do. We have sell outs today who are not white but contribute greatly to white supremacy and the oppression of non whites..... so of course there's going to have been sell outs back in the day as well.... that's like blaming every single hip hop artist for the fucktastic bullshit you see on the radio today, which is owned and controlled and manipulated by corporate white america, and then saying 'black people destroyed hip hop themselves'. No.

 

[PPLSIntiative]

The Europeans tried enslaving the natives, didnt work out to well considering the natives knew their own land too well and how to escape and defend themselves in familiar territory. So they exterminated the natives, and brought foreign people, mostly Black moors, but also africans and asians to do all the labor. Since the land was quite foreign to them all, it was easier to control them and keep them from escaping.

No matter who else was involved in the slave trade, it does not make it right and it does not in any way excuse what the europeans did and still do. We have sell outs today who are not white but contribute greatly to white supremacy and the oppression of non whites..... so of course there's going to have been sell outs back in the day as well.... that's like blaming every single hip hop artist for the fucktastic bullshit you see on the radio today, which is owned and controlled and manipulated by corporate white america, and then saying 'black people destroyed hip hop themselves'. No.

......Co-sign

 

[Olorun22]

An entire race cannot take the blame for the rape of Africa. Even calling it Africa is a dishonor because that name is derived from Leo Africanus, a Roman. That name has been so ingrained within our consciousness that we simply accept it. The Arabs had their hand in the slave trade, which is why you have islam in africa. a perfect example is in sudan, you have a lot of arab muslims who run roughshod over native blacks. A lot of these blacks coincidentally refer to themselves as the tribe of Judah. Blame the various coastal tribes that kidnapped and sold enemies to the europeans for various forms of profit such as guns and alcohol.

That was the only thing that the europeans could offer because that continent is has such a large abundance of resources. Outside of amerikkka, africa is the largest continent to be put through a constant state of pillaging and raping whether it be land, resources or people. It is a mistake to lump all of africa together as it would be to lump all of asia together or europe. the politics of each tribe or nation were varied as any other people. China is now in nigeria pumping those people for their oil at a ripped off price. Basically the whole world has had a hand in abusing that continents resources and its people. however, global cooperation between these other nations has conspired to keep african nations from fully recovering and become self reliant.

From what I know is Africanus wanst his family name he took the name after the Tribe called Afr which hannibal was from.

 

[PPLSIntiative]

From what I know is Africanus wanst his family name he took the name after the Tribe called Afr which hannibal was from.

He had an Arab name originally. I know he took on the name Leo after he was freed from slavery and baptized into catholicism under pope leo x.

 

[Chike]

Chike black people are destroying hiphop! There might be white people funding it (they funded the success and greatness it once was too) but these rappers are excepting the money and fans are excepting the music.

Are you trying to troll me? Or did you not read what I just said? They are sell outs who take orders from white people for a large sum of money. Hip Hop was not originally about money money money and advertising the fuck out of big brand named corporations. No fuckin way, no how.

 

[janklow]

The Europeans tried enslaving the natives, didnt work out to well considering the natives knew their own land too well and how to escape and defend themselves in familiar territory. So they exterminated the natives-

right here the narrative veers into a little bit of fiction, since the majority of deaths of Native Americans were due to the inadvertent spread of disease.

 

[Chike]

right here the narrative veers into a little bit of fiction, since the majority of deaths of Native Americans were due to the inadvertent spread of disease.

Inadvertent my ass....

 

[sun03]

Self hate is serious as cancer

One of the best quotes I've seen so far. It's true.

I've noticed this and I've already noticed this here among some folks. What is sad is I don't know if some black men realize that when they feed into the "white/light is right mentality" they are feeding into white supremacy. When a white man puts down your woman, they are putting you down. When your woman is uplifted, you will be uplifted. That is why so many white men put their women up because they themselves are put up. It makes them feel more powerful knowing other races of men, especially black want their so called "prize". Its all about power. Its psych 101, folks. They aren't a prize,they are just women like every other woman. And some black men(not all, I'm with an amazing guy right now and I know many healthy minded black men with high self esteem) eat it right up. I think it has to do with self-hate,brainwashing, and the feeling of powerlessness. I'm not saying you can't date who you want, by all means do what makes you happy but be genuine. And for the most part, its obviously not. Its a trend and its definitely brainwashing and a lot of self-hate going on there.

Some black women and black men have to stop pointing the fingers at one another and come together. Love yourself truly and you will be able to love the person who looks like you. Self-haters won't get far.

 

[sun03]

I don't think that he was arguing about the effects of slavery. I think that he was arguing about your statement that "whites have to take some blame". I also disagree with that statement, and agree with him. Unless you were making some kind of wide generalization. Most of these whites (and I'm not sure what your defintion of "whites" is) that can be blamed for slavery have long passed away. Not only that, but there are many other people from other races that can be blamed for slavery too.

I believe slavery has still has it effects on the mindsets of some black people in this country. All this has also gave way to institutional racism, which I do feel whites are responsible for. MANY whites still practice that to this very day and those effects can be debilitating. I mean look around. Some peoples actions and minds haven't changed much. Some of the things I've heard white people say, I seriously had to wonder if it was 1890 or 2011? I mean, come on. Overt and covert racism is very strong in American society.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Compared to the past what we complain about today is a fucking cake walk! We are so disrespectful of everybody older than us who ever went through a struggle

fixed.................

 

[PPLSIntiative]

Inadvertent my ass....

The earliest cases were inadvertent. the europeans assumed that indigenous tribes had the same immunity and coping systems as they did. When they found out they didn't they launched biological attacks on them. Sending small pox virus through blankets was the most popular method of viral delivery.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Is this a result of slavery?

June 9 2011
[video=youtube;IAKhw4ERPuI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAKhw4ERPuI[/video]

[video=youtube;vcT3JqefWXE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcT3JqefWXE[/video]

A couple of things about that vid:
1. smh at the nigga that got hit in the hip for wearing socks and clogs at the beach
2. smh at niggas sagging their pants while wearing swimming trunks
3. smh at niggas wearing boxers under their saggin swimming trunks
4. smh at the parameds taking their sweet sweet time with the medical attention
5. smh at the cops not clearing the area and allowing ppl to just stand over the para's while they are attending to ppl in critical condition
6. smh at the cameraman talking bout he gonna mob on the cops, nigga there is a reason why you're holding the camera and not the loaded gun

And best believe somebody is getting hit for that this weekend. When it gets hot, stupid shit happens.....

 

[Chike]

The earliest cases were inadvertent. the europeans assumed that indigenous tribes had the same immunity and coping systems as they did. When they found out they didn't they launched biological attacks on them. Sending small pox virus through blankets was the most popular method of viral delivery.

right but janklow was trying to act like the extermination process was inadvertent.