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supaman4321
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In a nutshell yes but it's not only as plain as you make it out to be, you glorify God by educating yourself and becoming knowledgeable about yourself and the world you live in. You glorify God by helping your fellow man. You glorify God by taking care of your children that he has given you and teaching them how to be the best that they can be. You glorify God by trying to better yourself so that you can be the best person possible. Yes of course you glorify Him through worship 5 times a day as well but if that's all you do and away from the prayer rug you live like a heathen then how sincere can your worship be?
edit: Also Humans are not the only beings subject to this, we're just the only creation with freewill so you THINK we're the only ones subject to this but in actually everything in the heavens and earth submit to His will, we're just the only thing that has the option not should we so choose, and we're the best of His creation, go figure.
edit: Also Humans are not the only beings subject to this, we're just the only creation with freewill so you THINK we're the only ones subject to this but in actually everything in the heavens and earth submit to His will, we're just the only thing that has the option not should we so choose, and we're the best of His creation, go figure.
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TX_Made713;122229 said:So is the only reason we exist is to remind god of how awesome he is 24/7? and if we dont then are are destined to get sent to hell?
Why are humans only prone to this? Why do animals/ufo's (Assuming they exist)/ other organisms excempt from this?
Everythign that happens is in Gods will right? Well then murders/rapist/etc are faultless at what they do since they are simply carrying out gods will. so whats up?
We exist because ‘g-d’ wanted spiritual sons and daughters in ‘his’ very 'image'. However, as you can see this has yet to come to fruition.
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Wade-O Radio
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TX_Made713;124692 said:somebody caught feelings.
fyi i wasnt being funny or egotistical when i made this thread. its a serious question. no matter how you sugar coat it, its basically telling god how awesome he is. im sure you've prayed before, been to church before. what do the prayers sound like?
"OH HEAVENLY FATHER, IM NOT WORTHY, YOUR SO GREAT, LORD THANK YOU I LOVE YOU YOUR SO AWESOME ETC"
so in what way is this spiritual/physical/etc development? im not saying god is like that either, what im saying is religion attempts to portray him like that
I think the question you have to ask first is "Is the statement in that prayer true?" In other words are we worthy? I say no based on our sin (whole other discussion) and as such, our glorifying God thru such language is not for his benefit, but for ours. It keeps you humble and meek. Not meek in a physically weak sort of a way, but in a submitted and committed point of view - meaning we restrain ourselves thru submission.
He created us. So in obviously He doesn't NEED us to puff Himself up or give Himself attention. As someone stated in an earlier thread, we think he needs that because we do that. Why would you need attention when its just you and no one else? That doesn't even make sense. There's no one to ignore you.
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alissowack
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Maybe if God's love is anything like mankind's love, then yes it would suck. God would seem more of a push-over if that is the case. He would just work a miracle or two just to feel liked and all mankind has to do is toy with him with demands like...if you do this for me, I'll be your best friend. If God's love is depended on mankind, then He is not worthy of being God.
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alissowack
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ether-i-am;150053 said:You said! it I didn't!
Maybe you didn't understand the context in which I said it. It may read that way but am I suggesting that God is not worthy of worship because He has been proven to be a push-over; that God's will has been abused by mankind? I still see you are still disappointed in God (don't worry...you're in good company including myself). He is probably more to blame than someone who is trying to buddy up with you.
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alissowack
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You are entitled to what you believe but that is the problem with religion...it's being sold; it's being endorsed and preachers tend to be the salesmen.
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getchamoneyrigh
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getchamoneyrigh;128235 said:I could careless about your youtube video. Please explain this in a logical sense.
That video is all belief and interpertation on a bible that has been re-written for one. Not to mention the dude has more rings on than Jordan.
Again another post I get no reply, you, blue falcoln and other dude, heaven dude, hate rationality. Its sad, believe in what you want, but at least think about please. Thanks.
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alissowack
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Well, one thing to expect is that the traffic in this forum is not what it used to. The usual posters have probably moved on so you may not hear from them.getchamoneyrigh;155055 said:Again another post I get no reply, you, blue falcoln and other dude, heaven dude, hate rationality. Its sad, believe in what you want, but at least think about please. Thanks.
There is nothing wrong with being rational. It is when being rational becomes more than what it is that it becomes an issue. I believe that life doesn't always have to make sense first in order to live it; that things don't always have to be known or explained. It's sometimes (if not mostly) about trust. I believe that even though rationale is important, it is used to mask the issues of trust. You don't like the idea of faith in God because either He is unfaithful or His Followers are unfaithful in your eyes. You would like God to make sense because you won't take Him any other way but what if it is the only way? What if regardless of what Blue, Heaven, or I say that the God of the Bible exists and all God wants you to do is trust Him? While you are busy collecting as much data as possible, you may find out that's it's not about the data.
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ether-i-am;155913 said:I was looking at it from a religions point of view.
Yea, that's why I explained the whole concept part. I'm not religious myself, just spiritual.
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TX_Made713
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ether-i-am;149464 said:I kind of feel sorry for an All Mighty Creator. What does he/she/it have to look forward to that he/she/it doesn't create? He would have to create conditions for man to go through just to feel some type of love, and it still wouldn't be love like we can experiance. Can you imagine the hurt he must of felt when lucifer decided he wanted the top spot? I mean that was is favorite angel. All the long walks they had, the sleep overs, the secrets they shared gone!
The only attention he gets is the attention he creates. Will he ever date? Meet other gods?
It must really suck sometimes.
I thought god didnt have favorites????????? so does god have a favorite human???does that person get special priviledges or something
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alissowack
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ether-i-am;156268 said:well NORE said he was god's favorite.
moses, job, mary, abraham and other members of the biblical cast got special attention.
Try not to look at in terms of favorites. When God chose Israel as His People, He didn't base it on whether or not their sins were forgiven. Sin still needed to be dealt with regardless of who He called.
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Dick Shitman
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CapitalB;153020 said:haha this thread is hilarious!!.. in this context god is a trick.. be makin it rain and people only fuck with him to get shit out of him.. but then go fuck with the Devil.. that Player in they life..
lmao, damn thats funny
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getchamoneyrigh
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alissowack;155760 said:Well, one thing to expect is that the traffic in this forum is not what it used to. The usual posters have probably moved on so you may not hear from them.
There is nothing wrong with being rational. It is when being rational becomes more than what it is that it becomes an issue. I believe that life doesn't always have to make sense first in order to live it; that things don't always have to be known or explained. It's sometimes (if not mostly) about trust. I believe that even though rationale is important, it is used to mask the issues of trust. You don't like the idea of faith in God because either He is unfaithful or His Followers are unfaithful in your eyes. You would like God to make sense because you won't take Him any other way but what if it is the only way? What if regardless of what Blue, Heaven, or I say that the God of the Bible exists and all God wants you to do is trust Him? While you are busy collecting as much data as possible, you may find out that's it's not about the data.
I wasnt directing it toward you. I am talking about the three people that I proved their inclinations false. The moral of the story of what I was saying is that none of them put their faith in GOD, they put their faith in man in which has rewritten the bible, as well as other things to make you believe one way or the other. To automatically question whether I believe in GOD or not, is not right. I never said I did or did not I am simply questioning the influence of man into the way GOD is portrayed and/or believed. So I may not question the lord, but I do question man (rationality).
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TX_Made713
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alissowack;156434 said:Try not to look at in terms of favorites. When God chose Israel as His People, He didn't base it on whether or not their sins were forgiven. Sin still needed to be dealt with regardless of who He called.
Why did God speak to them but he doesnt speak to us now? Why was the devil his favorite?
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alissowack
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TX_Made713;156609 said:Why did God speak to them but he doesnt speak to us now? Why was the devil his favorite?
God didn't speak to every Israelite. He spoke to those He knew would be faithful to what He says. People like Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and others were entrusted with His Word. I believe that God spoke to them because He wanted them to, by faith, pave the the way for the One who was to come and speak for mankind...and that is Jesus...but for some reason I have a feeling there is more to this question than that. Maybe you are implying is that if God spoke to us now then maybe we would understand. I don't believe it matters. Sin would still be an issue.
I don't believe that God has favorites. Lucifer played a significant role in God's Kingdom, but God was not favoring him.
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I think the problem is few people understand how to actually read their bible, and use religion to try to establish their relationship with God
A unique and essential part of Christ's message when he came forth who's name literally meant God saves was to call Yahweh abba(father)... when the lightbulb finally goes off that Yahweh is father... it changes your whole entire view towards God... if your knowledge about the Godhead is limited to human... you have been enraptured by the spirit of religion... and the spirit of religion chokes out all of the power of God....
The funny part is after my brief time period in the Gospel, I am able to pull my head from the book and see how corrupt the system of religion is... TV ministries are scams... the power or the method of prayer is not understood... your average person in the pulpit doesn't even meet the requirements to be an elder in the church (according to the word), but they have whole ministries ... people have shafted, scammed, packaged up in a neat massive appealing box, and sold the messiah for profit
They are working the alleged Gospel with lies, misinterpretations, falsehoods, and various other things that are so so far away from God... but they stamp God on it, and tell you its God, and you don't know any better because you do not understand the Word of God to be able to distinguish what is God and what is not, the true message of God smashes what America is built on.. capitalism, democracy, and social differences
The word says this
Heb 4:12 For the Word that God speaks is alive and full of power [making it active, operative, energizing, and effective]; it is sharper than any two-edged sword, penetrating to the dividing line of the [g] breath of life (soul) and [the immortal] spirit, and of joints and marrow [of the deepest parts of our nature], exposing and sifting and analyzing and judging the very thoughts and purposes of the heart.
To praise or to worship God is to do what Christ did when he was on Earth, its not to talk about... its to do... sunday is not the gospel... the church is a governing body not and entertainment flesh jerk fest... of course you are not enchanted with the way things are TX in this religion mountain TX... its because its not God
The reason the Christian says the only way to get to God is through the Lord Christ Jesus is because... Christ figured out what God wanted from us as Humans... and he did it
And one of the things he did was drop the religious baggage called Judaism off of him, and he followed the spirit of God... the will of his father... Jesus was not a supernatural being while on earth.. he was 100% man... same as we are
We need people that are willing to preach the gospel the way it was originally meant to be preached...... accept the calling God has placed over your life TX... you are a man which God wants to deliver his true word through.... GET IN YOUR BOOK!!!!
A unique and essential part of Christ's message when he came forth who's name literally meant God saves was to call Yahweh abba(father)... when the lightbulb finally goes off that Yahweh is father... it changes your whole entire view towards God... if your knowledge about the Godhead is limited to human... you have been enraptured by the spirit of religion... and the spirit of religion chokes out all of the power of God....
The funny part is after my brief time period in the Gospel, I am able to pull my head from the book and see how corrupt the system of religion is... TV ministries are scams... the power or the method of prayer is not understood... your average person in the pulpit doesn't even meet the requirements to be an elder in the church (according to the word), but they have whole ministries ... people have shafted, scammed, packaged up in a neat massive appealing box, and sold the messiah for profit
They are working the alleged Gospel with lies, misinterpretations, falsehoods, and various other things that are so so far away from God... but they stamp God on it, and tell you its God, and you don't know any better because you do not understand the Word of God to be able to distinguish what is God and what is not, the true message of God smashes what America is built on.. capitalism, democracy, and social differences
The word says this
Heb 4:12 For the Word that God speaks is alive and full of power [making it active, operative, energizing, and effective]; it is sharper than any two-edged sword, penetrating to the dividing line of the [g] breath of life (soul) and [the immortal] spirit, and of joints and marrow [of the deepest parts of our nature], exposing and sifting and analyzing and judging the very thoughts and purposes of the heart.
To praise or to worship God is to do what Christ did when he was on Earth, its not to talk about... its to do... sunday is not the gospel... the church is a governing body not and entertainment flesh jerk fest... of course you are not enchanted with the way things are TX in this religion mountain TX... its because its not God
The reason the Christian says the only way to get to God is through the Lord Christ Jesus is because... Christ figured out what God wanted from us as Humans... and he did it
And one of the things he did was drop the religious baggage called Judaism off of him, and he followed the spirit of God... the will of his father... Jesus was not a supernatural being while on earth.. he was 100% man... same as we are
We need people that are willing to preach the gospel the way it was originally meant to be preached...... accept the calling God has placed over your life TX... you are a man which God wants to deliver his true word through.... GET IN YOUR BOOK!!!!
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and I wanna expand on this scripture
Heb 4:12 For the Word that God speaks is alive and full of power [making it active, operative, energizing, and effective]; it is sharper than any two-edged sword, penetrating to the dividing line of the [g] breath of life (soul) and [the immortal] spirit, and of joints and marrow [of the deepest parts of our nature], exposing and sifting and analyzing and judging the very thoughts and purposes of the heart.
The Bible is the Word of God
Joh 1:1 IN THE beginning [before all time] was the Word ([a] Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself.(A
Joh 1:14 And the Word (Christ) became flesh (human, incarnate) and tabernacled (fixed His tent of flesh, lived awhile) among us; and we [actually] saw His glory (His honor, His majesty), such glory as an only begotten son receives from his father, full of grace (favor, loving-kindness) and truth.(E)
Christ is the WORD of GOD
Christ's life was God speaking... everything about his life is important, and attempting to subtract,misuse, minimize anything about Christ is like directly doing it against the literal Voice of God himself....
Understand the scriptures above
Pro 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
For you to develop that deeper relationship (spiritual) (God is a spirit and we are to worship him in spirit and in truth) (Christ is the way, the truth, the life), we have to use the WORD of God as the STANDARD
Because we are part Spirit man and part Soulish man and part flesh(carnal)... our soul is subject to the influence of various spirits(spirits of light/truth or dark/deception/covering of truth)... it is the standard that is the word of God that decides what is of God and what is not of God... not ourselves... we are too human... and one of the definitions of being human is being susceptible to fragility of human nature... which means we HAVE to depend on God to save us from our own human nature of sin, because we are all born and shaped by a sinful world, but if you look above.... Yeshua means God saves....
God judges based upon the heart
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Its the word of God that exposes the truth of whats on your heart, but see when you start reading the Word of God(Christ) there is a problem with your heart that automatically rejects it....
Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Main Entry:deceitful
: having a tendency or disposition to deceive: a : not honest *a deceitful child* b : DECEPTIVE, MISLEADING *deceitful advertising*
synonyms see DISHONEST
Remember all those people telling you to follow your heart... my heart aint never lead me anywhere successful... its a damn liar....
Your heart doesn't want the full knowledge of God, because the things of God do not feed the flesh... which means it does not make a unclean, uncircumcised heart feel good, because God requires a pure heart to stand before him... so the first half of your heart requires you purging all of the lust and fascinations of the world, and centering it in on God so that you are honestly able to follow the first commandment... and by revelation of the hebrews scripture... you can see it is the Word of God that does this work... and when one instructions you to have faith, or build your faith... they are asking you to have trust... or build your trust in the things that the bible says as truth...
I'll stop here....
Heb 4:12 For the Word that God speaks is alive and full of power [making it active, operative, energizing, and effective]; it is sharper than any two-edged sword, penetrating to the dividing line of the [g] breath of life (soul) and [the immortal] spirit, and of joints and marrow [of the deepest parts of our nature], exposing and sifting and analyzing and judging the very thoughts and purposes of the heart.
The Bible is the Word of God
Joh 1:1 IN THE beginning [before all time] was the Word ([a] Christ), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God Himself.(A
Joh 1:14 And the Word (Christ) became flesh (human, incarnate) and tabernacled (fixed His tent of flesh, lived awhile) among us; and we [actually] saw His glory (His honor, His majesty), such glory as an only begotten son receives from his father, full of grace (favor, loving-kindness) and truth.(E)
Christ is the WORD of GOD
Christ's life was God speaking... everything about his life is important, and attempting to subtract,misuse, minimize anything about Christ is like directly doing it against the literal Voice of God himself....
Understand the scriptures above
Pro 4:7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.
For you to develop that deeper relationship (spiritual) (God is a spirit and we are to worship him in spirit and in truth) (Christ is the way, the truth, the life), we have to use the WORD of God as the STANDARD
Because we are part Spirit man and part Soulish man and part flesh(carnal)... our soul is subject to the influence of various spirits(spirits of light/truth or dark/deception/covering of truth)... it is the standard that is the word of God that decides what is of God and what is not of God... not ourselves... we are too human... and one of the definitions of being human is being susceptible to fragility of human nature... which means we HAVE to depend on God to save us from our own human nature of sin, because we are all born and shaped by a sinful world, but if you look above.... Yeshua means God saves....
God judges based upon the heart
Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Its the word of God that exposes the truth of whats on your heart, but see when you start reading the Word of God(Christ) there is a problem with your heart that automatically rejects it....
Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
Main Entry:deceitful
: having a tendency or disposition to deceive: a : not honest *a deceitful child* b : DECEPTIVE, MISLEADING *deceitful advertising*
synonyms see DISHONEST
Remember all those people telling you to follow your heart... my heart aint never lead me anywhere successful... its a damn liar....
Your heart doesn't want the full knowledge of God, because the things of God do not feed the flesh... which means it does not make a unclean, uncircumcised heart feel good, because God requires a pure heart to stand before him... so the first half of your heart requires you purging all of the lust and fascinations of the world, and centering it in on God so that you are honestly able to follow the first commandment... and by revelation of the hebrews scripture... you can see it is the Word of God that does this work... and when one instructions you to have faith, or build your faith... they are asking you to have trust... or build your trust in the things that the bible says as truth...
I'll stop here....
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