Pros / Cons About Marriage

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

an why we bringing up slave time and the 40s shit?

are chicks really using someone else's relationship to power they motives?

cuz papop cheated on nanna....niggas ainy shit.

did chicks ever think the men were beat down so much then come home to fukkery....drinking and/or a patient freaky non needy side chick was there escape from reality.

Lmaooooo nah all that shit matters. But ppl will cite how divorce rates of today are much higher than in those times...will romanticize about how much worse it was back then but they still stayed together. But if a lot of those couples from back then had the options we have now, niggas woulda been getting divorced left and right.

Yes your grandma is a dusty hoe as well and if the divorce laws were similar in the 50s as they became in the 70s a lot of them would've gotten divorced

In the 70s "no fault" divorce kicked in.

Bitches: you mean i don't need a valid reason to request a divorce and file for alimony. That's all me.

Divorce skyrocketed. Welfare reform meant that Bitches were encouraged to have kids with no man around. They became capitalists with their pussy but socialists with the consequences.

Bitches never been shit but you have to give them the environment to expose themselves.

Divorce laws,were the proverbial straw that broke the black families back

expound

otherwise the last 60 or so years blk women have tended to be better educated and higher wage earners than our men

so alimony, and to a lesser extent child support, wasn't factoring largely into our decision making

and no fault divorces gave ppl, especially blk women, trapped in unhappy and abusive marriages the opportunity to leave. so I argue it saved many of blk ppl a lot of strife and heart ache. even some lives. in divorce where fault must be proven, men and women would have to provide solid evidence to a judge that their spouse was abusing them or cheating on them. this would be especially difficult for abuse victims who did not have access to legal help or the finances to fight for a divorce

in states with new, no-fault divorce laws, numbers show domestic abuse murders fell by 10 percent. In addition, female suicide rates dropped by 20 percent
http://www.mollybkenny.com/news/study--no-fault-divorce-laws-prevent-crime---save-lives-20130607.cfm

and I'd also argue the blk family was broken way before no fault divorces and the like

not to say that some women don't/didn't use the court system to their advantage, but not to the extent you all are arguing ...especially blk women

and unlike our non blk counterparts blk women were less inclined to be defined by "marriage" because their was less certainty and stability in our relationships... our men more likely to be killed, murdered, imprisoned, tempted by other women, etc at any moment

welfare reform did decrease the incentives to get married by giving women greater financial independence, but there is no strong evidence to support the claim welfare promotes out of wedlock childbirth and divorce

states with higher than average AFDC benefits tend to have lower than average non-marital birthrates

and there is no evidence welfare reform had any impact on the long term decline in marriage

that said, i do believe today that we can now limit alimony ...

Now more men are locked up or face charges cuz the white man put a price on what beiing a father is.... women know they can leave whenever they aren't "happy get theur work check they ex check and they new nigga check...vs staying trying to work the relationship out... I can go deeper but I'm I'm driving

Cs laws need to be reformed

I agree with that

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

an why we bringing up slave time and the 40s shit?

are chicks really using someone else's relationship to power they motives?

cuz papop cheated on nanna....niggas ainy shit.

did chicks ever think the men were beat down so much then come home to fukkery....drinking and/or a patient freaky non needy side chick was there escape from reality.

Lmaooooo nah all that shit matters. But ppl will cite how divorce rates of today are much higher than in those times...will romanticize about how much worse it was back then but they still stayed together. But if a lot of those couples from back then had the options we have now, niggas woulda been getting divorced left and right.

Yes your grandma is a dusty hoe as well and if the divorce laws were similar in the 50s as they became in the 70s a lot of them would've gotten divorced

In the 70s "no fault" divorce kicked in.

Bitches: you mean i don't need a valid reason to request a divorce and file for alimony. That's all me.

Divorce skyrocketed. Welfare reform meant that Bitches were encouraged to have kids with no man around. They became capitalists with their pussy but socialists with the consequences.

Bitches never been shit but you have to give them the environment to expose themselves.

Divorce laws,were the proverbial straw that broke the black families back

expound

otherwise the last 60 or so years blk women have tended to be better educated and higher wage earners than our men

so alimony, and to a lesser extent child support, wasn't factoring largely into our decision making

and no fault divorces gave ppl, especially blk women, trapped in unhappy and abusive marriages the opportunity to leave. so I argue it saved many of blk ppl a lot of strife and heart ache. even some lives. in divorce where fault must be proven, men and women would have to provide solid evidence to a judge that their spouse was abusing them or cheating on them. this would be especially difficult for abuse victims who did not have access to legal help or the finances to fight for a divorce

in states with new, no-fault divorce laws, numbers show domestic abuse murders fell by 10 percent. In addition, female suicide rates dropped by 20 percent
http://www.mollybkenny.com/news/study--no-fault-divorce-laws-prevent-crime---save-lives-20130607.cfm

and I'd also argue the blk family was broken way before no fault divorces and the like

not to say that some women don't/didn't use the court system to their advantage, but not to the extent you all are arguing ...especially blk women

and unlike our non blk counterparts blk women were less inclined to be defined by "marriage" because their was less certainty and stability in our relationships... our men more likely to be killed, murdered, imprisoned, tempted by other women, etc at any moment

welfare reform did decrease the incentives to get married by giving women greater financial independence, but there is no strong evidence to support the claim welfare promotes out of wedlock childbirth and divorce

states with higher than average AFDC benefits tend to have lower than average non-marital birthrates

and there is no evidence welfare reform had any impact on the long term decline in marriage

that said, i do believe today that we can now limit alimony ...

Now more men are locked up or face charges cuz the white man put a price on what beiing a father is.... women know they can leave whenever they aren't "happy get theur work check they ex check and they new nigga check...vs staying trying to work the relationship out... I can go deeper but I'm I'm driving

Ailmony is typically awarded to the highest earner, breadwinner

Did you read my post? Lol

And yes no fault divorces make it so anyone including women can leave an unhappy or abusive marriage without having to have a drawn out expensive battle in court that a low income person and or stay at home wife/mom could not afford

And why is that such a bad thing

We should make it harder for these ppl to escape a bad situation because a few women are taking advantage of the system

Smh

There you go again by using the ' women are the only victims,women are weak and rarely fuck up and abuse in marriage' angle.

Whereas we male poster always try to find A COMMON GROUND, you come UNILATERAL.

You cannot be taken seriously as long as you keep on EMASCULATING THE TOPIC.

Abuse in marriage has no gender

Lying in marriage has no exclusive gender

Violence, verbal and physical, has no exclusive gender

Cheating, materialism in marriage has no gender.

The percentage war of which gender fucks up the most wont bring a solution to the main problem : PEOPLE ARE LONLIER AND SADDER evryday. People are overstressed by trust issues.

NOBODY WINS !!!

Its a law problem. Its an education problem. Its a social problem.

 

[LordZuko]

Point blank, because the divorce laws are so stringent and punitive against men, and this has worked to expose females, simultaneously with feminism, men are marrying less.

These hoes outchea so desperate they've taken to "marrying" themselves.

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

Point blank, because the divorce laws are so stringent and punitive against men, and this has worked to expose females, simultaneously with feminism, men are marrying less.

These hoes outchea so desperate they've taken to "marrying" themselves.

Smh

The Disney programmation is so strong in them. It is also strong in these men that can calculate the trajectory of a Comet but get hyper dumb when it comes to the marriage contract and ramifications...

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

Look at them walking down the streets looking at men like ' you better invest to get my puss' .

Waiiit till the sexbots comes. Some towns will unfortunately get flooded with tears.

 

[2stepz_ahead]

Look at them walking down the streets looking at men like ' you better invest to get my puss' .

Waiiit till the sexbots comes. Some towns will unfortunately get flooded with tears.

just thinking about this....

how many women, shit in men cuz they have a dildo or rabbit?

I guess that makes the man more willing to fight for pussy while she's getting hervrocks off an can wait him out.

 

[7figz]

Man, brothers in here droppin some serious ether on this shit.

Y'all married dudes and the 2.5 chicks we got on this site better fight back !

 

[EmM HoLLa.]

Look at them walking down the streets looking at men like ' you better invest to get my puss' .

Waiiit till the sexbots comes. Some towns will unfortunately get flooded with tears.

just thinking about this....

how many women, shit in men cuz they have a dildo or rabbit?

I guess that makes the man more willing to fight for pussy while she's getting hervrocks off an can wait him out.

I can't speak for anyone else.. But no women I've ever dealt with would chose a dildo/rabbit over getting some of this beef cake-ington!.. Lmfaoo

*Gillie Da Kid Voice* RIGHT!

 

[aneed123]

Look at them walking down the streets looking at men like ' you better invest to get my puss' .

Waiiit till the sexbots comes. Some towns will unfortunately get flooded with tears.

just thinking about this....

how many women, shit in men cuz they have a dildo or rabbit?

I guess that makes the man more willing to fight for pussy while she's getting hervrocks off an can wait him out.

I can't speak for anyone else.. But no women I've ever dealt with would chose a dildo/rabbit over getting some of this beef cake-ington!.. Lmfaoo

*Gillie Da Kid Voice* RIGHT!

My Nigerian brother lol it's cuz we hit em with da Mutombo lol

 

[EmM HoLLa.]

Look at them walking down the streets looking at men like ' you better invest to get my puss' .

Waiiit till the sexbots comes. Some towns will unfortunately get flooded with tears.

just thinking about this....

how many women, shit in men cuz they have a dildo or rabbit?

I guess that makes the man more willing to fight for pussy while she's getting hervrocks off an can wait him out.

I can't speak for anyone else.. But no women I've ever dealt with would chose a dildo/rabbit over getting some of this beef cake-ington!.. Lmfaoo

*Gillie Da Kid Voice* RIGHT!

My Nigerian brother lol it's cuz we hit em with da Mutombo lol

I'm from Ghana my nigga.. Still Mutombo nevertheless. lmfaaaooooo *daps*

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

an why we bringing up slave time and the 40s shit?

are chicks really using someone else's relationship to power they motives?

cuz papop cheated on nanna....niggas ainy shit.

did chicks ever think the men were beat down so much then come home to fukkery....drinking and/or a patient freaky non needy side chick was there escape from reality.

Lmaooooo nah all that shit matters. But ppl will cite how divorce rates of today are much higher than in those times...will romanticize about how much worse it was back then but they still stayed together. But if a lot of those couples from back then had the options we have now, niggas woulda been getting divorced left and right.

Yes your grandma is a dusty hoe as well and if the divorce laws were similar in the 50s as they became in the 70s a lot of them would've gotten divorced

In the 70s "no fault" divorce kicked in.

Bitches: you mean i don't need a valid reason to request a divorce and file for alimony. That's all me.

Divorce skyrocketed. Welfare reform meant that Bitches were encouraged to have kids with no man around. They became capitalists with their pussy but socialists with the consequences.

Bitches never been shit but you have to give them the environment to expose themselves.

Divorce laws,were the proverbial straw that broke the black families back

expound

otherwise the last 60 or so years blk women have tended to be better educated and higher wage earners than our men

so alimony, and to a lesser extent child support, wasn't factoring largely into our decision making

and no fault divorces gave ppl, especially blk women, trapped in unhappy and abusive marriages the opportunity to leave. so I argue it saved many of blk ppl a lot of strife and heart ache. even some lives. in divorce where fault must be proven, men and women would have to provide solid evidence to a judge that their spouse was abusing them or cheating on them. this would be especially difficult for abuse victims who did not have access to legal help or the finances to fight for a divorce

in states with new, no-fault divorce laws, numbers show domestic abuse murders fell by 10 percent. In addition, female suicide rates dropped by 20 percent
http://www.mollybkenny.com/news/study--no-fault-divorce-laws-prevent-crime---save-lives-20130607.cfm

and I'd also argue the blk family was broken way before no fault divorces and the like

not to say that some women don't/didn't use the court system to their advantage, but not to the extent you all are arguing ...especially blk women

and unlike our non blk counterparts blk women were less inclined to be defined by "marriage" because their was less certainty and stability in our relationships... our men more likely to be killed, murdered, imprisoned, tempted by other women, etc at any moment

welfare reform did decrease the incentives to get married by giving women greater financial independence, but there is no strong evidence to support the claim welfare promotes out of wedlock childbirth and divorce

states with higher than average AFDC benefits tend to have lower than average non-marital birthrates

and there is no evidence welfare reform had any impact on the long term decline in marriage

that said, i do believe today that we can now limit alimony ...

Now more men are locked up or face charges cuz the white man put a price on what beiing a father is.... women know they can leave whenever they aren't "happy get theur work check they ex check and they new nigga check...vs staying trying to work the relationship out... I can go deeper but I'm I'm driving

Ailmony is typically awarded to the highest earner, breadwinner

Did you read my post? Lol

And yes no fault divorces make it so anyone including women can leave an unhappy or abusive marriage without having to have a drawn out expensive battle in court that a low income person and or stay at home wife/mom could not afford

And why is that such a bad thing

We should make it harder for these ppl to escape a bad situation because a few women are taking advantage of the system

Smh

There you go again by using the ' women are the only victims,women are weak and rarely fuck up and abuse in marriage' angle.

Whereas we male poster always try to find A COMMON GROUND, you come UNILATERAL.

You cannot be taken seriously as long as you keep on EMASCULATING THE TOPIC.

Abuse in marriage has no gender

Lying in marriage has no exclusive gender

Violence, verbal and physical, has no exclusive gender

Cheating, materialism in marriage has no gender.

The percentage war of which gender fucks up the most wont bring a solution to the main problem : PEOPLE ARE LONLIER AND SADDER evryday. People are overstressed by trust issues.

NOBODY WINS !!!

Its a law problem. Its an education problem. Its a social problem.

Lol

Bruh....

How????

Reread my posts

I clearly stated that no fault divorce laws made it possible ANYONE "including women" could leave an abusive marriage"...no fault especially helps low income PEOPLE who cannot afford a long, drawn out court battle

I emphasised women because back in the day it was harder for women to find decent work making the choice to walk away from her husband and or a two income household extremely difficult

My overall point being this idea that divorce laws including no fault played a key role in destorying the blk family is crazy

Can these laws be taken advantage of? Sure. When i was on the market, i had a higher earning potential more than 50-60% of potential suitors so i do understand

And yes there are men who are taking advantage as well

But what is a better solution that serves the greater good

I also stated that child support laws need to be reformed. Also have said there should be a cap on alimony

U are the one who is being antagonistic and trying to make me into the enemy based on little to no substance

And that is part of the reason why i rarely respond to you

Continue on though lol

 

[2stepz_ahead]

is holding out the ass considered a form of abuse?

it's mental torture

 

[caddo man]

Scanned over the first page and saw a lot of over generalizations. Typical of this site.

 

[LordZuko]

is holding out the ass considered a form of abuse?

it's mental torture

Yea it is. I think it's called martial negligence. But often it's manipulating and abuse to reward sex and refuse sex as consequence for behavior.

 

[AZTG]

I feel some of yall act like marriage is the destination.

My whole thing is I have a destination im going too, and if I meet someone who is going to the same destination and makes the road to get there easier, we can get married.

We break up along the way? She took half? Cool. Minor set back. I been on my road to the destination before she joined, and ill continue after she left.

 

[ineedpussy]

I feel some of yall act like marriage is the destination.

My whole thing is I have a destination im going too, and if I meet someone who is going to the same destination and makes the road to get there easier, we can get married.

We break up along the way? She took half? Cool. Minor set back. I been on my road to the destination before she joined, and ill continue after she left.

so youre saying if youre driving and you pick her up on the way because yall going to the same destination but he take 2 tires you cool cause you was still going that way? how the fuck you gone get there with two tires? you hitch hiking my dude?

 

[AZTG]

I feel some of yall act like marriage is the destination.

My whole thing is I have a destination im going too, and if I meet someone who is going to the same destination and makes the road to get there easier, we can get married.

We break up along the way? She took half? Cool. Minor set back. I been on my road to the destination before she joined, and ill continue after she left.

so youre saying if youre driving and you pick her up on the way because yall going to the same destination but he take 2 tires you cool cause you was still going that way? how the fuck you gone get there with two tires? you hitch hiking my dude?

But you missing the IF. There is a chance that she takes the tires and im hitching hiking. But there is also a chance that she takes the wheel while im sleeping in the passanger and I get there quicker.

Meaning, i met her and trust her enough to marry her cause I weighed the risk and feel like the chances of her getting me there quicker are higher than her taking two wheels.

In your scenario your making it seem like she is definetly taking the two tires. If I know for a fact she about to take half why the fuck would I marry her?

All im saying is, if I met her, and trusted her, ill go all in. Im a man who stands behind my decision, so if my decision is wrong, ima just say fuck it. Its my fault, who ima blame?

Now with that said, im 28, never married, and dont have a prospect that i even consider marrying, but if I meet one and I feel she adds to my life and I trust her, ill marry the bitch. Not about to base my decision cause some other peoples marriage didnt work.

 

[aneed123]

Look at them walking down the streets looking at men like ' you better invest to get my puss' .

Waiiit till the sexbots comes. Some towns will unfortunately get flooded with tears.

just thinking about this....

how many women, shit in men cuz they have a dildo or rabbit?

I guess that makes the man more willing to fight for pussy while she's getting hervrocks off an can wait him out.

I can't speak for anyone else.. But no women I've ever dealt with would chose a dildo/rabbit over getting some of this beef cake-ington!.. Lmfaoo

*Gillie Da Kid Voice* RIGHT!

My Nigerian brother lol it's cuz we hit em with da Mutombo lol

I'm from Ghana my nigga.. Still Mutombo nevertheless. lmfaaaooooo *daps*

Potato potatoes lol my west African friend ha ha

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

an why we bringing up slave time and the 40s shit?

are chicks really using someone else's relationship to power they motives?

cuz papop cheated on nanna....niggas ainy shit.

did chicks ever think the men were beat down so much then come home to fukkery....drinking and/or a patient freaky non needy side chick was there escape from reality.

Lmaooooo nah all that shit matters. But ppl will cite how divorce rates of today are much higher than in those times...will romanticize about how much worse it was back then but they still stayed together. But if a lot of those couples from back then had the options we have now, niggas woulda been getting divorced left and right.

Yes your grandma is a dusty hoe as well and if the divorce laws were similar in the 50s as they became in the 70s a lot of them would've gotten divorced

In the 70s "no fault" divorce kicked in.

Bitches: you mean i don't need a valid reason to request a divorce and file for alimony. That's all me.

Divorce skyrocketed. Welfare reform meant that Bitches were encouraged to have kids with no man around. They became capitalists with their pussy but socialists with the consequences.

Bitches never been shit but you have to give them the environment to expose themselves.

Divorce laws,were the proverbial straw that broke the black families back

expound

otherwise the last 60 or so years blk women have tended to be better educated and higher wage earners than our men

so alimony, and to a lesser extent child support, wasn't factoring largely into our decision making

and no fault divorces gave ppl, especially blk women, trapped in unhappy and abusive marriages the opportunity to leave. so I argue it saved many of blk ppl a lot of strife and heart ache. even some lives. in divorce where fault must be proven, men and women would have to provide solid evidence to a judge that their spouse was abusing them or cheating on them. this would be especially difficult for abuse victims who did not have access to legal help or the finances to fight for a divorce

in states with new, no-fault divorce laws, numbers show domestic abuse murders fell by 10 percent. In addition, female suicide rates dropped by 20 percent
http://www.mollybkenny.com/news/study--no-fault-divorce-laws-prevent-crime---save-lives-20130607.cfm

and I'd also argue the blk family was broken way before no fault divorces and the like

not to say that some women don't/didn't use the court system to their advantage, but not to the extent you all are arguing ...especially blk women

and unlike our non blk counterparts blk women were less inclined to be defined by "marriage" because their was less certainty and stability in our relationships... our men more likely to be killed, murdered, imprisoned, tempted by other women, etc at any moment

welfare reform did decrease the incentives to get married by giving women greater financial independence, but there is no strong evidence to support the claim welfare promotes out of wedlock childbirth and divorce

states with higher than average AFDC benefits tend to have lower than average non-marital birthrates

and there is no evidence welfare reform had any impact on the long term decline in marriage

that said, i do believe today that we can now limit alimony ...

Now more men are locked up or face charges cuz the white man put a price on what beiing a father is.... women know they can leave whenever they aren't "happy get theur work check they ex check and they new nigga check...vs staying trying to work the relationship out... I can go deeper but I'm I'm driving

Ailmony is typically awarded to the highest earner, breadwinner

Did you read my post? Lol

And yes no fault divorces make it so anyone including women can leave an unhappy or abusive marriage without having to have a drawn out expensive battle in court that a low income person and or stay at home wife/mom could not afford

And why is that such a bad thing

We should make it harder for these ppl to escape a bad situation because a few women are taking advantage of the system

Smh

There you go again by using the ' women are the only victims,women are weak and rarely fuck up and abuse in marriage' angle.

Whereas we male poster always try to find A COMMON GROUND, you come UNILATERAL.

You cannot be taken seriously as long as you keep on EMASCULATING THE TOPIC.

Abuse in marriage has no gender

Lying in marriage has no exclusive gender

Violence, verbal and physical, has no exclusive gender

Cheating, materialism in marriage has no gender.

The percentage war of which gender fucks up the most wont bring a solution to the main problem : PEOPLE ARE LONLIER AND SADDER evryday. People are overstressed by trust issues.

NOBODY WINS !!!

Its a law problem. Its an education problem. Its a social problem.

Lol

Bruh....

How????

Reread my posts

I clearly stated that no fault divorce laws made it possible ANYONE "including women" could leave an abusive marriage"...no fault especially helps low income PEOPLE who cannot afford a long, drawn out court battle

I emphasised women because back in the day it was harder for women to find decent work making the choice to walk away from her husband and or a two income household extremely difficult

My overall point being this idea that divorce laws including no fault played a key role in destorying the blk family is crazy

Can these laws be taken advantage of? Sure. When i was on the market, i had a higher earning potential more than 50-60% of potential suitors so i do understand

And yes there are men who are taking advantage as well

But what is a better solution that serves the greater good

I also stated that child support laws need to be reformed. Also have said there should be a cap on alimony

U are the one who is being antagonistic and trying to make me into the enemy based on little to no substance

And that is part of the reason why i rarely respond to you

Continue on though lol

My intent is to make you using your posting time and energy ON SOLUTIONS, IDEAS.

WE NEED FEMININE OUTPUT, NOT REMINDERS OF THINGS WE ALL KNOW.

We are all in the same boat madame.

 

[LEMZIMUS_RAMSEY]

We talk about drugg money, smoking money,

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE SIMPING ECONOMY?

If we reduce/stop simping how will it affect the economy?

How bizzare we got all sorts of surveys but never this one?