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DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6528365 said:
zombie;6528307 said:
bambu;6528157 said:
What do you mean by "physical evolution"?????

Either God created man.....

Or man "evolved" from lower life forms.............

yes god created man but HOW is the issue, to create something you construct it so how did god CONSTRUCT man and what is man but the combination of the physical and spiritual. Evolution is a proposed "HOW" of the creation of physical side of man.

by physical evolution i mean the physical bodies we inhabit, i don't see how anyone can believe that god is omnipotent but then can't believe that god could use evolution to create what he wants.

Because it goes against what scripture teaches. I believe God, not man. Amen.

"Yea, let God be true and all men liars." Romans 3:4

What you mean to say is that it goes against what YOU BELIEVE SCRIPTURE SAYS there are actually many theologians who believe in what i am telling you are you more knowledgeable than them i doubt it.

Scripture GIVES very little information about how god created man almost no details are given. when science does not clearly contradict scripture and religious people dent science all they are doing is making people of faith look like fools.
 
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zombie;6528934 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6528365 said:
zombie;6528307 said:
bambu;6528157 said:
What do you mean by "physical evolution"?????

Either God created man.....

Or man "evolved" from lower life forms.............

yes god created man but HOW is the issue, to create something you construct it so how did god CONSTRUCT man and what is man but the combination of the physical and spiritual. Evolution is a proposed "HOW" of the creation of physical side of man.

by physical evolution i mean the physical bodies we inhabit, i don't see how anyone can believe that god is omnipotent but then can't believe that god could use evolution to create what he wants.

Because it goes against what scripture teaches. I believe God, not man. Amen.

"Yea, let God be true and all men liars." Romans 3:4

What you mean to say is that it goes against what YOU BELIEVE SCRIPTURE SAYS there are actually many theologians who believe in what i am telling you are you more knowledgeable than them i doubt it.

Scripture GIVES very little information about how god created man almost no details are given. when science does not clearly contradict scripture and religious people dent science all they are doing is making people of faith look like fools.

The theory of evolution directly contradicts scripture....

It states that life "evolved" by chance.....

Whereas, scripture states that man was created......

Origin of life

Further information: Abiogenesis and RNA world hypothesis

Highly energetic chemistry is thought to have produced a self-replicating molecule around 4 billion years ago, and half a billion years later the last common ancestor of all life existed.[242] The current scientific consensus is that the complex biochemistry that makes up life came from simpler chemical reactions.[243] The beginning of life may have included self-replicating molecules such as RNA[244] and the assembly of simple cells.[245]

 
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zombie;6528934 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6528365 said:
zombie;6528307 said:
bambu;6528157 said:
What do you mean by "physical evolution"?????

Either God created man.....

Or man "evolved" from lower life forms.............

yes god created man but HOW is the issue, to create something you construct it so how did god CONSTRUCT man and what is man but the combination of the physical and spiritual. Evolution is a proposed "HOW" of the creation of physical side of man.

by physical evolution i mean the physical bodies we inhabit, i don't see how anyone can believe that god is omnipotent but then can't believe that god could use evolution to create what he wants.

Because it goes against what scripture teaches. I believe God, not man. Amen.

"Yea, let God be true and all men liars." Romans 3:4

What you mean to say is that it goes against what YOU BELIEVE SCRIPTURE SAYS there are actually many theologians who believe in what i am telling you are you more knowledgeable than them i doubt it.

Scripture GIVES very little information about how god created man almost no details are given. when science does not clearly contradict scripture and religious people dent science all they are doing is making people of faith look like fools.

Please answer these 3 questions with scripture. If you can't I will.

How could man evolve from animals when man named the animals?

How can man evolve from animals when God gave man dominion over all the earth, including the animals?

How could man evolve from animals when God made man lower than the angles, but yet higher than the animals?
 
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bambu;6529159 said:
zombie;6528934 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6528365 said:
zombie;6528307 said:
bambu;6528157 said:
What do you mean by "physical evolution"?????

Either God created man.....

Or man "evolved" from lower life forms.............

yes god created man but HOW is the issue, to create something you construct it so how did god CONSTRUCT man and what is man but the combination of the physical and spiritual. Evolution is a proposed "HOW" of the creation of physical side of man.

by physical evolution i mean the physical bodies we inhabit, i don't see how anyone can believe that god is omnipotent but then can't believe that god could use evolution to create what he wants.

Because it goes against what scripture teaches. I believe God, not man. Amen.

"Yea, let God be true and all men liars." Romans 3:4

What you mean to say is that it goes against what YOU BELIEVE SCRIPTURE SAYS there are actually many theologians who believe in what i am telling you are you more knowledgeable than them i doubt it.

Scripture GIVES very little information about how god created man almost no details are given. when science does not clearly contradict scripture and religious people dent science all they are doing is making people of faith look like fools.

The theory of evolution directly contradicts scripture....

It states that life "evolved" by chance.....

Whereas, scripture states that man was created......

Origin of life

Further information: Abiogenesis and RNA world hypothesis

Highly energetic chemistry is thought to have produced a self-replicating molecule around 4 billion years ago, and half a billion years later the last common ancestor of all life existed.[242] The current scientific consensus is that the complex biochemistry that makes up life came from simpler chemical reactions.[243] The beginning of life may have included self-replicating molecules such as RNA[244] and the assembly of simple cells.[245]

Nothing is by chance man was designed by god, the evolution of life on earth only looks like chance to us.
 
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6528361 said:
whar;6526543 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6526062 said:
whar;6526028 said:
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/1/26.full

This is an entire paper addressing calibrating the molecular clock. Please reach out to the authors and explain how laughable their work is.

The concept of Missing Link is one you hold but have defined in such a way as it can not be fulfilled. A afarensis, A anamensis, and A ramidus are all transitional examples between us and our ape ancestors. I am sure you accept none of them.

Whar we been down this road before, so let's get to the heart of the issue. Why will you not come to Jesus Christ so that you might have life?

Because I find the thought of scapegoating Jesus to bear my sins morally abhorrent. If God exists I will stand before him with my crimes still upon me. If this means I end up in hell then so be it.

Why do you believe Jesus Christ sacrifice was morally abhorrent my friend?

If the problems of scapegoating and human sacrifice have to be explained you have really lost your moral compass.

 
Maybe evolution has a different definition in the bible. People change, revelation talks about knowledge and discernment increasing. I didn't come from any primate but if you want to categorize an animal that closely resembles our species, it's an ape. My question is why are there other planets in our solar system. I know revelations talks about God creating a new earth for us. I think that Gods spirit in us allows us to have knowledge, think the way we do and have free will. Without him, our lifestyle would be as arbitrary as the animal kingdom.
 
Plus it's not science that gives us that 1% chance to find habitat on 1 planet out of a million. I'm not a product of stardust. There is a possibility of life existing billions of years ago but Genesis says the earth was formless which mean life could have died millions of years before we were created. If it's dinosaurs or not, I dunno but angels and demons were here before us.
 
whar;6529338 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6528361 said:
whar;6526543 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6526062 said:
whar;6526028 said:
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/1/26.full

This is an entire paper addressing calibrating the molecular clock. Please reach out to the authors and explain how laughable their work is.

The concept of Missing Link is one you hold but have defined in such a way as it can not be fulfilled. A afarensis, A anamensis, and A ramidus are all transitional examples between us and our ape ancestors. I am sure you accept none of them.

Whar we been down this road before, so let's get to the heart of the issue. Why will you not come to Jesus Christ so that you might have life?

Because I find the thought of scapegoating Jesus to bear my sins morally abhorrent. If God exists I will stand before him with my crimes still upon me. If this means I end up in hell then so be it.

Why do you believe Jesus Christ sacrifice was morally abhorrent my friend?

If the problems of scapegoating and human sacrifice have to be explained you have really lost your moral compass.

Well I am trying to engage your thoughts my friend, so that I can see where your coming from. Me personally, I know the reason why Jesus Christ sacrificed Himself. You call it morally abhorrent, thus I want to know why. You feel me?
 
Plus if you wanna compare the bible and science, revelations gives many descriptions of Satan having many horns. Is it possible that those dinosaurs were demonic creatures that were cast out of heaven. One scripture describes him of looking like a dragon and most angels and demons are giants.

 
SouthpawSour;6529428 said:
Maybe evolution has a different definition in the bible. People change, revelation talks about knowledge and discernment increasing. I didn't come from any primate but if you want to categorize an animal that closely resembles our species, it's an ape. My question is why are there other planets in our solar system. I know revelations talks about God creating a new earth for us. I think that Gods spirit in us allows us to have knowledge, think the way we do and have free will. Without him, our lifestyle would be as arbitrary as the animal kingdom.

Amen. As for the answer to your question, I don't know why God put other planets in the solar system. I have heard various theories. But in the end they are all speculation, because only God knows the reason why He does things. And if it He hasn't revealed the reason to us in the scriptures, than all theories are just pure speculation. The best answer I can give from what the scriptures teach is that the heavens declare the glory of God, they testify of His greatness, and it was for His pleasure that He created all things.

"Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." Revelation 4:11

"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." Psalm 19:1

 
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6529462 said:
whar;6529338 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6528361 said:
whar;6526543 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6526062 said:
whar;6526028 said:
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/1/26.full

This is an entire paper addressing calibrating the molecular clock. Please reach out to the authors and explain how laughable their work is.

The concept of Missing Link is one you hold but have defined in such a way as it can not be fulfilled. A afarensis, A anamensis, and A ramidus are all transitional examples between us and our ape ancestors. I am sure you accept none of them.

Whar we been down this road before, so let's get to the heart of the issue. Why will you not come to Jesus Christ so that you might have life?

Because I find the thought of scapegoating Jesus to bear my sins morally abhorrent. If God exists I will stand before him with my crimes still upon me. If this means I end up in hell then so be it.

Why do you believe Jesus Christ sacrifice was morally abhorrent my friend?

If the problems of scapegoating and human sacrifice have to be explained you have really lost your moral compass.

Well I am trying to engage your thoughts my friend, so that I can see where your coming from. Me personally, I know the reason why Jesus Christ sacrificed Himself. You call it morally abhorrent, thus I want to know why. You feel me?

I am responsible for my actions to scapegoat another is morally wrong.

To engage in or profit from human sacrifice is morally wrong.

I do not know what else to tell you those are simple straightforward concepts to me.

 
whar;6529616 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6529462 said:
whar;6529338 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6528361 said:
whar;6526543 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6526062 said:
whar;6526028 said:
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/1/26.full

This is an entire paper addressing calibrating the molecular clock. Please reach out to the authors and explain how laughable their work is.

The concept of Missing Link is one you hold but have defined in such a way as it can not be fulfilled. A afarensis, A anamensis, and A ramidus are all transitional examples between us and our ape ancestors. I am sure you accept none of them.

Whar we been down this road before, so let's get to the heart of the issue. Why will you not come to Jesus Christ so that you might have life?

Because I find the thought of scapegoating Jesus to bear my sins morally abhorrent. If God exists I will stand before him with my crimes still upon me. If this means I end up in hell then so be it.

Why do you believe Jesus Christ sacrifice was morally abhorrent my friend?

If the problems of scapegoating and human sacrifice have to be explained you have really lost your moral compass.

Well I am trying to engage your thoughts my friend, so that I can see where your coming from. Me personally, I know the reason why Jesus Christ sacrificed Himself. You call it morally abhorrent, thus I want to know why. You feel me?

I am responsible for my actions to scapegoat another is morally wrong.

To engage in or profit from human sacrifice is morally wrong.

I do not know what else to tell you those are simple straightforward concepts to me.

But how bout if the scapegoat is God Himself?

And what if the human sacrifice is God Himself?

 
Premeer;506557 said:
-the earth is 3,959 miles in radius. or 196.9 million square miles.

-the sun is 864,400 miles across.. in other words, 1,300,000 earths can fit in the sun.

-the largest star known to man is called the "Pistol Star".. it is 100 times as big as the sun and 10,000,000 times as bright.

-theres approximately 50 BILLION stars in our galaxy alone.

-there is an estimated HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of galaxies in the universe..

not only did GOD MAKE ALL OF THIS, but He knows EVERY star / planet by name. let that sink in for a minute... ok. now, think about how big you are in this universe.... now tell me your problems are too big for God.

is this ur proof of god? wow amazing

idiots like u push me even further away from religion
 
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Premeer;506557 said:
-the earth is 3,959 miles in radius. or 196.9 million square miles.

-the sun is 864,400 miles across.. in other words, 1,300,000 earths can fit in the sun.

-the largest star known to man is called the "Pistol Star".. it is 100 times as big as the sun and 10,000,000 times as bright.

-theres approximately 50 BILLION stars in our galaxy alone.

-there is an estimated HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of galaxies in the universe..

not only did GOD MAKE ALL OF THIS, but He knows EVERY star / planet by name. let that sink in for a minute... ok. now, think about how big you are in this universe.... now tell me your problems are too big for God.

What is the proof that god exists or even created a single thing?
 
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6530484 said:
whar;6529616 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6529462 said:
whar;6529338 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6528361 said:
whar;6526543 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6526062 said:
whar;6526028 said:
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/1/26.full

This is an entire paper addressing calibrating the molecular clock. Please reach out to the authors and explain how laughable their work is.

The concept of Missing Link is one you hold but have defined in such a way as it can not be fulfilled. A afarensis, A anamensis, and A ramidus are all transitional examples between us and our ape ancestors. I am sure you accept none of them.

Whar we been down this road before, so let's get to the heart of the issue. Why will you not come to Jesus Christ so that you might have life?

Because I find the thought of scapegoating Jesus to bear my sins morally abhorrent. If God exists I will stand before him with my crimes still upon me. If this means I end up in hell then so be it.

Why do you believe Jesus Christ sacrifice was morally abhorrent my friend?

If the problems of scapegoating and human sacrifice have to be explained you have really lost your moral compass.

Well I am trying to engage your thoughts my friend, so that I can see where your coming from. Me personally, I know the reason why Jesus Christ sacrificed Himself. You call it morally abhorrent, thus I want to know why. You feel me?

I am responsible for my actions to scapegoat another is morally wrong.

To engage in or profit from human sacrifice is morally wrong.

I do not know what else to tell you those are simple straightforward concepts to me.

But how bout if the scapegoat is God Himself?

And what if the human sacrifice is God Himself?

No difference. I am human. I must make moral choices. The central tenet of Christianity appears to me to be immoral, to pass my sins an other is wrong.

 
whar;6542077 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6530484 said:
whar;6529616 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6529462 said:
whar;6529338 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6528361 said:
whar;6526543 said:
DoUwant2go2Heaven?;6526062 said:
whar;6526028 said:
http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/24/1/26.full

This is an entire paper addressing calibrating the molecular clock. Please reach out to the authors and explain how laughable their work is.

The concept of Missing Link is one you hold but have defined in such a way as it can not be fulfilled. A afarensis, A anamensis, and A ramidus are all transitional examples between us and our ape ancestors. I am sure you accept none of them.

Whar we been down this road before, so let's get to the heart of the issue. Why will you not come to Jesus Christ so that you might have life?

Because I find the thought of scapegoating Jesus to bear my sins morally abhorrent. If God exists I will stand before him with my crimes still upon me. If this means I end up in hell then so be it.

Why do you believe Jesus Christ sacrifice was morally abhorrent my friend?

If the problems of scapegoating and human sacrifice have to be explained you have really lost your moral compass.

Well I am trying to engage your thoughts my friend, so that I can see where your coming from. Me personally, I know the reason why Jesus Christ sacrificed Himself. You call it morally abhorrent, thus I want to know why. You feel me?

I am responsible for my actions to scapegoat another is morally wrong.

To engage in or profit from human sacrifice is morally wrong.

I do not know what else to tell you those are simple straightforward concepts to me.

But how bout if the scapegoat is God Himself?

And what if the human sacrifice is God Himself?

No difference. I am human. I must make moral choices. The central tenet of Christianity appears to me to be immoral, to pass my sins an other is wrong.

That's the thing Whar, we as creatures are commanded to make the right moral choices. God gave mankind a chance to walk in perfect obedience with Him when He gave Adam and Eve the test in the Garden of Eden. Sadly mankind failed that test and thus sin was introduced into a perfect world. Everything in this world has now been corrupted by sin. Therefore nothing of this world can pay the penalty for sin and still be in right standing before God. Why? Because God is perfect. He demands perfection and anything less is an offense to Him, it is sin.

That is why God Himself could only pay the penalty sin deserves, which is death, and at the same time redeem a fallen creation because of the perfect righteousness that God intrinsically has, which He is able to impute unto all who will come to Him by faith!

The righteousness of Christ can now be credited to fallen humanities account on the day of Judgment. So when a believer is judged, God no longer sees the sin of the believer, but He sees the perfect righteousness of Christ, thus God accepts the believer into His presence, kingdom, and glory forever!

The unrepentant sinner on the other hand has a far different outcome on the day of judgment. Why? Because God will still see the sin that the unrepentant sinner has yet to confess and deal with. Thus on the day of judgment it will be dealt with severely! Why take your chances on the day of judgment when you don't have to Whar? Why be so presumptuous now, when all you have to do is humble yourself and confess to God that you do need a Savior who can save you from your sins?

There is a holy God that will be seated on the throne on the day of judgment. There will be no defense lawyer, no appeal agreements, no plea bargains, nor any jury that will be able to get anybody off the hook on the last day. The only one who will be able to pardon on the last day is the one who is seated on the throne. And if you have not placed your faith and trust in His shed blood for your sins, the only outcome of the judgment will be tribulation, wrath, anguish, weeping, and gnashing of teeth.

Humble yourself and choose Christ Jesus my friend. Let us reason together my friend and look at Christ our sin bearer who loved us and gave Himself for us. He loves you my friend, do you believe that He does?
 
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whar;6525630 said:
Two lines of evidence point to the 6,000,000 years ago us diverging from our nearest ancestor with the Chimps.

lol

listen to yourself......... you and zombie make a interesting tandem...
 
I am not in tandem with any fucking body.

evolution and the christian god are not in conflict only a dumbass would take the genesis story literal and since most american evangelicals are dumb as a box of rocks there seems to be a problem.
 
zombie;6492748 said:
anger would be the sin I get rid of

i understand clearly, why you say you would do away with anger.. you have much of it...

zombie;6578698 said:
I am not in tandem with any fucking body.

evolution and the christian god are not in conflict only a dumbass would take the genesis story literal and since most american evangelicals are dumb as a box of rocks there seems to be a problem.

of course it contradicts... doU pretty much broke it down to you to a T... but for some illogical reason, you just wont accept it... or cant comprehend it....

maybe if you would accept God and His word fully, you wouldnt have these anger issues, my friend.... you need some peace in your heart...

tell me, do you think this jamaican suffers from your same anger and hatred issues? do you think he shares your same "pro-black" agenda?


i can promise you this man is a child of God and skin color is the last thing on his mind. God Bless.

 

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