The real secret to Asian American success

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zzombie;9508702 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

segregation is forced. self segregation isn't. I dont want to "bunch" together blacks. I want blacks to of their own volition stay together.

middle class areas are great You don't seem to have a point

It doesn't matter lol. Niggas splitting hairs
 
jono;9508779 said:
zzombie;9508702 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

segregation is forced. self segregation isn't. I dont want to "bunch" together blacks. I want blacks to of their own volition stay together.

middle class areas are great You don't seem to have a point

It doesn't matter lol. Niggas splitting hairs

There is a serious difference because one is an act of agency and the other is a result of oppression
 
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zzombie;9508800 said:
jono;9508779 said:
zzombie;9508702 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

segregation is forced. self segregation isn't. I dont want to "bunch" together blacks. I want blacks to of their own volition stay together.

middle class areas are great You don't seem to have a point

It doesn't matter lol. Niggas splitting hairs

There is a serious differencenough because one is an act of agency and the other is a result of oppression

Its the same in the end. You don't want people to voluntarily do shit. All this bullshit y'all saying now is to counter what I'm saying lol.

Black Wall Street came from oppression, those niggas had no choice but to live together. Y'all love romanticizing it and other neighborhoods across the country had the same system.

Middle class blacks have always had agency, the problem is thats a small percentage...always have been.
 
jono;9508776 said:
Kwan Dai;9508750 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

You don't live in reality or deal with truth. Every other ethnicity in America self segregates. We are the only stupid mahffacus afraid to live amongst our own. Even your scared ass wants to segregate. You enjoy living and socializing with the people you feel most comfortable around. You scared niggas will swear that living, learning, growing, and chilling amongst your own is some type of reversed racism or some way of being cheated out of life experiences. FOH.

Blacks have self segregated.

Middle class blacks don't want to live with low class, poor niggas. It makes no sense for them to do so. Property values, quality of life, education systems are all better living away from poverty. What incentive is there for people to live together just because they're black?

In any event segregation is segregation.

Now again...how is that working out?

You still refuse to get it...the rich living away from the poor is natural among all people but a system of societal connection still remains with the elite leading the poor.

But with blacks this isn't so because our elite lack the power to lead us anywhere and it's because we aren't United we rather go to whites/mainstream before we go to our own
 
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jono;9508811 said:
zzombie;9508800 said:
jono;9508779 said:
zzombie;9508702 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

segregation is forced. self segregation isn't. I dont want to "bunch" together blacks. I want blacks to of their own volition stay together.

middle class areas are great You don't seem to have a point

It doesn't matter lol. Niggas splitting hairs

There is a serious differencenough because one is an act of agency and the other is a result of oppression

Its the same in the end. You don't want people to voluntarily do shit. All this bullshit y'all saying now is to counter what I'm saying lol.

Black Wall Street came from oppression, those niggas had no choice but to live together. Y'all love romanticizing it and other neighborhoods across the country had the same system.

Middle class blacks have always had agency, the problem is thats a small percentage...always have been.

What you are saying doesnt seem to be based on observable reality and the bold is just Wong rich niggas got checked by white supremacist all the time.
 
zzombie;9508814 said:
jono;9508776 said:
Kwan Dai;9508750 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

You don't live in reality or deal with truth. Every other ethnicity in America self segregates. We are the only stupid mahffacus afraid to live amongst our own. Even your scared ass wants to segregate. You enjoy living and socializing with the people you feel most comfortable around. You scared niggas will swear that living, learning, growing, and chilling amongst your own is some type of reversed racism or some way of being cheated out of life experiences. FOH.

Blacks have self segregated.

Middle class blacks don't want to live with low class, poor niggas. It makes no sense for them to do so. Property values, quality of life, education systems are all better living away from poverty. What incentive is there for people to live together just because they're black?

In any event segregation is segregation.

Now again...how is that working out?

You still refuse to get it...the rich living away from the poor is natural among all people but a system of societal connection still remains with the elite leading the poor.

But with blacks this isn't so because our elite lack the power to lead us anywhere and it's because we aren't United we rather go to whites/mainstream before we go to our own

Who are these "elites"?

You keep mutating this argument. Now there are Arab and Asian pied pipers running these societies? WTF. Just stop
 
jono;9508834 said:
zzombie;9508814 said:
jono;9508776 said:
Kwan Dai;9508750 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

You don't live in reality or deal with truth. Every other ethnicity in America self segregates. We are the only stupid mahffacus afraid to live amongst our own. Even your scared ass wants to segregate. You enjoy living and socializing with the people you feel most comfortable around. You scared niggas will swear that living, learning, growing, and chilling amongst your own is some type of reversed racism or some way of being cheated out of life experiences. FOH.

Blacks have self segregated.

Middle class blacks don't want to live with low class, poor niggas. It makes no sense for them to do so. Property values, quality of life, education systems are all better living away from poverty. What incentive is there for people to live together just because they're black?

In any event segregation is segregation.

Now again...how is that working out?

You still refuse to get it...the rich living away from the poor is natural among all people but a system of societal connection still remains with the elite leading the poor.

But with blacks this isn't so because our elite lack the power to lead us anywhere and it's because we aren't United we rather go to whites/mainstream before we go to our own

Who are these "elites"?

You keep mutating this argument. Now there are Arab and Asian pied pipers running these societies? WTF. Just stop

Every society has an elite it's usually the people with the power wealth and influence. I am not mutating shit you just refuse to see reason because it would mean admitting your perspective is wrong
 
zzombie;9508841 said:
jono;9508834 said:
zzombie;9508814 said:
jono;9508776 said:
Kwan Dai;9508750 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

You don't live in reality or deal with truth. Every other ethnicity in America self segregates. We are the only stupid mahffacus afraid to live amongst our own. Even your scared ass wants to segregate. You enjoy living and socializing with the people you feel most comfortable around. You scared niggas will swear that living, learning, growing, and chilling amongst your own is some type of reversed racism or some way of being cheated out of life experiences. FOH.

Blacks have self segregated.

Middle class blacks don't want to live with low class, poor niggas. It makes no sense for them to do so. Property values, quality of life, education systems are all better living away from poverty. What incentive is there for people to live together just because they're black?

In any event segregation is segregation.

Now again...how is that working out?

You still refuse to get it...the rich living away from the poor is natural among all people but a system of societal connection still remains with the elite leading the poor.

But with blacks this isn't so because our elite lack the power to lead us anywhere and it's because we aren't United we rather go to whites/mainstream before we go to our own

Who are these "elites"?

You keep mutating this argument. Now there are Arab and Asian pied pipers running these societies? WTF. Just stop

Every society has an elite it's usually the people with the power wealth and influence. I am not mutating shit you just refuse to see reason because it would mean admitting your perspective is wrong

Tell me who the elite of Chinatown is. Who is the elites of Dearborn or what about these white neighborhoods?

Lol please. Reason.

 
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zzombie;9508826 said:
jono;9508811 said:
zzombie;9508800 said:
jono;9508779 said:
zzombie;9508702 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

segregation is forced. self segregation isn't. I dont want to "bunch" together blacks. I want blacks to of their own volition stay together.

middle class areas are great You don't seem to have a point

It doesn't matter lol. Niggas splitting hairs

There is a serious differencenough because one is an act of agency and the other is a result of oppression

Its the same in the end. You don't want people to voluntarily do shit. All this bullshit y'all saying now is to counter what I'm saying lol.

Black Wall Street came from oppression, those niggas had no choice but to live together. Y'all love romanticizing it and other neighborhoods across the country had the same system.

Middle class blacks have always had agency, the problem is thats a small percentage...always have been.

What you are saying doesnt seem to be based on observable reality and the bold is just Wong rich niggas got checked by white supremacist all the time.

Read a history book. I never said they didn't face backlash for doing what they wanted but they did it anyway
 
jono;9508852 said:
zzombie;9508841 said:
jono;9508834 said:
zzombie;9508814 said:
jono;9508776 said:
Kwan Dai;9508750 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

You don't live in reality or deal with truth. Every other ethnicity in America self segregates. We are the only stupid mahffacus afraid to live amongst our own. Even your scared ass wants to segregate. You enjoy living and socializing with the people you feel most comfortable around. You scared niggas will swear that living, learning, growing, and chilling amongst your own is some type of reversed racism or some way of being cheated out of life experiences. FOH.

Blacks have self segregated.

Middle class blacks don't want to live with low class, poor niggas. It makes no sense for them to do so. Property values, quality of life, education systems are all better living away from poverty. What incentive is there for people to live together just because they're black?

In any event segregation is segregation.

Now again...how is that working out?

You still refuse to get it...the rich living away from the poor is natural among all people but a system of societal connection still remains with the elite leading the poor.

But with blacks this isn't so because our elite lack the power to lead us anywhere and it's because we aren't United we rather go to whites/mainstream before we go to our own

Who are these "elites"?

You keep mutating this argument. Now there are Arab and Asian pied pipers running these societies? WTF. Just stop

Every society has an elite it's usually the people with the power wealth and influence. I am not mutating shit you just refuse to see reason because it would mean admitting your perspective is wrong

Tell me who the elite of Chinatown is. Who is the elites of Dearborn or what about these white neighborhoods?

Lol please. Reason.

Lol if already told you... what you want direct names??? Whoever owns the Asian owned banks or has community influence coupled with wealth.
 
jono;9508856 said:
zzombie;9508826 said:
jono;9508811 said:
zzombie;9508800 said:
jono;9508779 said:
zzombie;9508702 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

segregation is forced. self segregation isn't. I dont want to "bunch" together blacks. I want blacks to of their own volition stay together.

middle class areas are great You don't seem to have a point

It doesn't matter lol. Niggas splitting hairs

There is a serious differencenough because one is an act of agency and the other is a result of oppression

Its the same in the end. You don't want people to voluntarily do shit. All this bullshit y'all saying now is to counter what I'm saying lol.

Black Wall Street came from oppression, those niggas had no choice but to live together. Y'all love romanticizing it and other neighborhoods across the country had the same system.

Middle class blacks have always had agency, the problem is thats a small percentage...always have been.

What you are saying doesnt seem to be based on observable reality and the bold is just Wong rich niggas got checked by white supremacist all the time.

Read a history book. I never said they didn't face backlash for doing what they wanted but they did it anyway

Nigga you said they had agency....how when america was under segregation by law and white supremacy was the official policy????... getting your rights disregarded and told what you can and cannot do isn't an example of agency
 
zzombie;9508869 said:
jono;9508856 said:
zzombie;9508826 said:
jono;9508811 said:
zzombie;9508800 said:
jono;9508779 said:
zzombie;9508702 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

segregation is forced. self segregation isn't. I dont want to "bunch" together blacks. I want blacks to of their own volition stay together.

middle class areas are great You don't seem to have a point

It doesn't matter lol. Niggas splitting hairs

There is a serious differencenough because one is an act of agency and the other is a result of oppression

Its the same in the end. You don't want people to voluntarily do shit. All this bullshit y'all saying now is to counter what I'm saying lol.

Black Wall Street came from oppression, those niggas had no choice but to live together. Y'all love romanticizing it and other neighborhoods across the country had the same system.

Middle class blacks have always had agency, the problem is thats a small percentage...always have been.

What you are saying doesnt seem to be based on observable reality and the bold is just Wong rich niggas got checked by white supremacist all the time.

Read a history book. I never said they didn't face backlash for doing what they wanted but they did it anyway

Nigga you said they had agency....how when america was under segregation by law and white supremacy was the official policy????... getting your rights disregarded and told what you can and cannot do isn't an example of agency

You apparently don't know shit (not a surprise there) but yes Blacks even under segregation could move around. They faced violence when they left the designated "nigga areas" but the strong stood firm.

Many black middle class neighborhoods actually came from whites leaving the neighborhood because black people moved in. Other blacks had their homes vandalized or lives threatened. They faced discrimination in housing and banking and work but the desire to move where ever the fuck they wanted kept them moving forward.

They had options. White folks did all kinds of stupid shit to stop it, limit it or control it but they did it. This is a fact. Again...where are yours?
 
We as Black people tried to build our own towns ,communities etc eventually Whites caught wind of what we were doing and burned it down to the ground .Asians do not have to worry about white supremacy breathing down their necks watching their every move forward the most part they are left alone . Our Relationship if you can call it that with the United States is very unique and comparing our experience to other minorities is ridiculous to begin with.
 
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zzombie;9508864 said:
jono;9508852 said:
zzombie;9508841 said:
jono;9508834 said:
zzombie;9508814 said:
jono;9508776 said:
Kwan Dai;9508750 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

You don't live in reality or deal with truth. Every other ethnicity in America self segregates. We are the only stupid mahffacus afraid to live amongst our own. Even your scared ass wants to segregate. You enjoy living and socializing with the people you feel most comfortable around. You scared niggas will swear that living, learning, growing, and chilling amongst your own is some type of reversed racism or some way of being cheated out of life experiences. FOH.

Blacks have self segregated.

Middle class blacks don't want to live with low class, poor niggas. It makes no sense for them to do so. Property values, quality of life, education systems are all better living away from poverty. What incentive is there for people to live together just because they're black?

In any event segregation is segregation.

Now again...how is that working out?

You still refuse to get it...the rich living away from the poor is natural among all people but a system of societal connection still remains with the elite leading the poor.

But with blacks this isn't so because our elite lack the power to lead us anywhere and it's because we aren't United we rather go to whites/mainstream before we go to our own

Who are these "elites"?

You keep mutating this argument. Now there are Arab and Asian pied pipers running these societies? WTF. Just stop

Every society has an elite it's usually the people with the power wealth and influence. I am not mutating shit you just refuse to see reason because it would mean admitting your perspective is wrong

Tell me who the elite of Chinatown is. Who is the elites of Dearborn or what about these white neighborhoods?

Lol please. Reason.

Lol if already told you... what you want direct names??? Whoever owns the Asian owned banks or has community influence coupled with wealth.

So you don't know?

You don't know these magic Asians exist but you sure they're there?
 
jono;9508876 said:
zzombie;9508869 said:
jono;9508856 said:
zzombie;9508826 said:
jono;9508811 said:
zzombie;9508800 said:
jono;9508779 said:
zzombie;9508702 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

segregation is forced. self segregation isn't. I dont want to "bunch" together blacks. I want blacks to of their own volition stay together.

middle class areas are great You don't seem to have a point

It doesn't matter lol. Niggas splitting hairs

There is a serious differencenough because one is an act of agency and the other is a result of oppression

Its the same in the end. You don't want people to voluntarily do shit. All this bullshit y'all saying now is to counter what I'm saying lol.

Black Wall Street came from oppression, those niggas had no choice but to live together. Y'all love romanticizing it and other neighborhoods across the country had the same system.

Middle class blacks have always had agency, the problem is thats a small percentage...always have been.

What you are saying doesnt seem to be based on observable reality and the bold is just Wong rich niggas got checked by white supremacist all the time.

Read a history book. I never said they didn't face backlash for doing what they wanted but they did it anyway

Nigga you said they had agency....how when america was under segregation by law and white supremacy was the official policy????... getting your rights disregarded and told what you can and cannot do isn't an example of agency

You apparently don't know shit (not a surprise there) but yes Blacks even under segregation could move around. They faced violence when they left the designated "nigga areas" but the strong stood firm.

Many black middle class neighborhoods actually came from whites leaving the neighborhood because black people moved in. Other blacks had their homes vandalized or lives threatened. They faced discrimination in housing and banking and work but the desire to move where ever the fuck they wanted kept them moving forward.

They had options. White folks did all kinds of stupid shit to stop it, limit it or control it but they did it. This is a fact. Again...where are yours?

Unless you are talking about full agency you don't have agency... moving around is the least example of freedom.
 
Many studies have confirmed that applicants with identical resumes when applying for jobs have very different results.

Black sounding names get rejected 50% more than white and Asian sounding names.

That's institutional racism like a motherfucker.

We fucked up when we integrated with white people. Every statistically significant index in black progress has regressed since the 70's (the epitome of black self-empowerment).

-Black businesses were thriving

-Strong two-parent households

-High number of black marriages

-Low black on black homicide rate

Only thing we can tout as an upgrade from those years are college degrees. Which, in a backhanded kind of way, has made us reliant on begging the white man for a job, instead of emulating the blueprint of immigrants who come here & open up businesses.
 
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Kwan Dai;9508750 said:
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jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

You don't live in reality or deal with truth. Every other ethnicity in America self segregates. We are the only stupid mahffacus afraid to live amongst our own. Even your scared ass wants to segregate. You enjoy living and socializing with the people you feel most comfortable around. You scared niggas will swear that living, learning, growing, and chilling amongst your own is some type of reversed racism or some way of being cheated out of life experiences. FOH.

Blacks have self segregated.

Middle class blacks don't want to live with low class, poor niggas. It makes no sense for them to do so. Property values, quality of life, education systems are all better living away from poverty. What incentive is there for people to live together just because they're black?

In any event segregation is segregation.

Now again...how is that working out?

You still refuse to get it...the rich living away from the poor is natural among all people but a system of societal connection still remains with the elite leading the poor.

But with blacks this isn't so because our elite lack the power to lead us anywhere and it's because we aren't United we rather go to whites/mainstream before we go to our own

Who are these "elites"?

You keep mutating this argument. Now there are Arab and Asian pied pipers running these societies? WTF. Just stop

Every society has an elite it's usually the people with the power wealth and influence. I am not mutating shit you just refuse to see reason because it would mean admitting your perspective is wrong

Tell me who the elite of Chinatown is. Who is the elites of Dearborn or what about these white neighborhoods?

Lol please. Reason.

Lol if already told you... what you want direct names??? Whoever owns the Asian owned banks or has community influence coupled with wealth.

So you don't know?

You don't know these magic Asians exist but you sure they're there?

I actually can give you direct names but what would be the point??? You are clearly stuck on stupid.all anyone has to do is just look into the Asians who own Asians American banks or Google richest Asians Americans you won't get a full list but you will get plenty name
 
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jono;9508811 said:
zzombie;9508800 said:
jono;9508779 said:
zzombie;9508702 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

segregation is forced. self segregation isn't. I dont want to "bunch" together blacks. I want blacks to of their own volition stay together.

middle class areas are great You don't seem to have a point

It doesn't matter lol. Niggas splitting hairs

There is a serious differencenough because one is an act of agency and the other is a result of oppression

Its the same in the end. You don't want people to voluntarily do shit. All this bullshit y'all saying now is to counter what I'm saying lol.

Black Wall Street came from oppression, those niggas had no choice but to live together. Y'all love romanticizing it and other neighborhoods across the country had the same system.

Middle class blacks have always had agency, the problem is thats a small percentage...always have been.

What you are saying doesnt seem to be based on observable reality and the bold is just Wong rich niggas got checked by white supremacist all the time.

Read a history book. I never said they didn't face backlash for doing what they wanted but they did it anyway

Nigga you said they had agency....how when america was under segregation by law and white supremacy was the official policy????... getting your rights disregarded and told what you can and cannot do isn't an example of agency

You apparently don't know shit (not a surprise there) but yes Blacks even under segregation could move around. They faced violence when they left the designated "nigga areas" but the strong stood firm.

Many black middle class neighborhoods actually came from whites leaving the neighborhood because black people moved in. Other blacks had their homes vandalized or lives threatened. They faced discrimination in housing and banking and work but the desire to move where ever the fuck they wanted kept them moving forward.

They had options. White folks did all kinds of stupid shit to stop it, limit it or control it but they did it. This is a fact. Again...where are yours?

Unless you are talking about full agency you don't have agency... moving around is the least example of freedom.

But freedom nontheless.
zzombie;9508910 said:
jono;9508880 said:
zzombie;9508864 said:
jono;9508852 said:
zzombie;9508841 said:
jono;9508834 said:
zzombie;9508814 said:
jono;9508776 said:
Kwan Dai;9508750 said:
jono;9508606 said:
zzombie;9508378 said:
jono;9508316 said:
Chicago is one of the most segregated cities in the United States, as is Detroit. Both are in shambles. Segregation is a fools response.

Honestly, its the focus on STEM fields in education bolstered by educated immigrants.

Its not some anomaly either. Its the same for Africans, Arabs and Indians as well. They have strict education and cultural standards.

There's a difference between self segregation and what goes on in Chicago

5th Letter;9508586 said:
There is a difference between true segregation and impoverished neighborhoods that black people live in because that's all they can afford.

This is what y'all niggas want. You want to bunch niggas together and this what you have. This is what you always had with segregation.

There has always been middle class enclaves both white and black. There are black middle class areas even in the cities I mentioned.

How is that working out?

You don't live in reality or deal with truth. Every other ethnicity in America self segregates. We are the only stupid mahffacus afraid to live amongst our own. Even your scared ass wants to segregate. You enjoy living and socializing with the people you feel most comfortable around. You scared niggas will swear that living, learning, growing, and chilling amongst your own is some type of reversed racism or some way of being cheated out of life experiences. FOH.

Blacks have self segregated.

Middle class blacks don't want to live with low class, poor niggas. It makes no sense for them to do so. Property values, quality of life, education systems are all better living away from poverty. What incentive is there for people to live together just because they're black?

In any event segregation is segregation.

Now again...how is that working out?

You still refuse to get it...the rich living away from the poor is natural among all people but a system of societal connection still remains with the elite leading the poor.

But with blacks this isn't so because our elite lack the power to lead us anywhere and it's because we aren't United we rather go to whites/mainstream before we go to our own

Who are these "elites"?

You keep mutating this argument. Now there are Arab and Asian pied pipers running these societies? WTF. Just stop

Every society has an elite it's usually the people with the power wealth and influence. I am not mutating shit you just refuse to see reason because it would mean admitting your perspective is wrong

Tell me who the elite of Chinatown is. Who is the elites of Dearborn or what about these white neighborhoods?

Lol please. Reason.

Lol if already told you... what you want direct names??? Whoever owns the Asian owned banks or has community influence coupled with wealth.

So you don't know?

You don't know these magic Asians exist but you sure they're there?

I actually can give you direct names but what would be the point??? You are clearly stuck on stupid.all anyone has to do is just look into the Asians who own Asians American banks or Google richest Asians Americans you won't get a full list but you will get plenty name

Waiting...
 
Will someone else who understands what I'm saying talk to jono talking to him is like talking to a f****** retard. This fool thinks the elite in any respective Society is a myth
 

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