People don't know what racism is.

[a.mann]

Here in the United States

there has been a systematic industrialization of white supremacy

 

[ohhhla]

White Supremacy is a myth.

We'll racist and it has nothing to do with power. Fin.

If racism is completely separate to power then why are racialized groups typically revoked of theirs?

Does not make sense

Is that what the liberals are tellling you, bruh?

That's what's observable when you look at history and see the trends between oppressor and oppressed

Presumably why voting rights was such a contentious issue in SA and the States

*Jay-Z's Voice* Uh Huh

 

[a.mann]

We'll racist and it has nothing to do with power. Fin.

If racism is completely separate to power then why are racialized groups typically revoked of theirs?

Does not make sense

Is that what the liberals are tellling you, bruh?

Here's what he is saying,

this is a post I made about the difference of a Al Sharpton calling another black person a "nigga" to emphasise a point and some like Donald Sterling showcasing his disdain of "a person of color"

Not just Sharpton, but the ideal that ANY black person that calls another black person a "nigga" is a intolerant bigoted racist is beyond ridiculous.

With that

When has ANY black person in America has ever had the power and influence to symptomatically belittle, demonize,denigrate, disparage,marginalize and oppress a significantly large percentage of white people?

And in return have OTHER black people directly/indirectly benefit from it.....for countless years...countless generations?

NEVER.

A Donald Sterling has power and influence.

A Mark Cuban has power and influence.

An Al Sharpton DOES NOT have the power,influence nor wealth, to detrimentally effect/affect the life and livelihood of a significantly large percentage of white people

 

[LUClEN]

Whats fucked up with everything being made out to be racist is the fact that when something truly racist happens people now brush it off and feel like this is being blown out of proportion.

People are now feeling like anything racist is basically the boy crying wolf. By calling everything racist and always claiming someone is pulling the so called "race card" they are desensitizing the masses(mainly whites and other races) to true racism. Which allows them more leeway in ignoring the shit which is more fucked up because they really never cared in the first place.

And the distinction between this lesser form of racism and "true racism" is...?

Their ain't levels to this shit IMO. Racism is racism is racism. Shit is wrong thats it.

Now for the true racsim comment, somethings are people practicing racism others are people just being bigots. Calling everything a bigot does and says racism is a problem because there is a difference.

There is a difference

but both can be shown to have real world consequences that can lead to the unequal treatment of racialized groups

My point was that there is a difference and with people not knowing about and/ or acknowledging that difference causes major problems when in fact there is racism at play.

I never denied the bold.

You seem to be against stigmatizing both the actions that result due to racism, prejudice and bigotry and the ideologies, claims, beliefs and values that promote and spread them. I agree they are not equivalent but they both still involve arbitrary racial categorization and can impede the efforts to establish more egalitarian social structures and practices.

Spoiler

I see it all as racism, and it's either detrimental, ineffectual or beneficial. Ineffectual or near ineffectual racism is of little concern outside of the fact that it has the potential to lead to more detrimental forms. Beneficial racism is seemingly a matter of perspective: Consider a racial group that is considered more attractive, commands greater sexual capital and can turn this into financial capital. While this preference can be seen as beneficial to that group, inherent in it is a devaluation of other groups relative to it, which is detrimental to them. This is why it seems a bit hasty to claim less overt forms of racial classification are not at all racist when the attribution of values in accordance to subjective views of racial classification can be effectual and even lead to more visible kinds

If we say that saying all Asians are bad drivers is not racist, then saying Black women are ugly is also not racist. But when this can affect their sexual and social capital, which in turn hinder their ability to develop relationships in various spheres of life and accumulate financial capital, and at its root is racial classification it seems part and parcel of the same undesirable process.

 

[D. Morgan]

White Supremacy is a myth.

We'll racist and it has nothing to do with power. Fin.

If racism is completely separate to power then why are racialized groups typically revoked of theirs?

Does not make sense

Is that what the liberals are tellling you, bruh?

That's what's observable when you look at history and see the trends between oppressor and oppressed

Presumably why voting rights was such a contentious issue in SA and the States

*Jay-Z's Voice* Uh Huh

Are you serious with the bold?

 

[Meta_Conscious]

What bugs me is that ppl think it's about being liked...

Racism is a problem because of the negative effect it has on life chances...

 

[D. Morgan]

Whats fucked up with everything being made out to be racist is the fact that when something truly racist happens people now brush it off and feel like this is being blown out of proportion.

People are now feeling like anything racist is basically the boy crying wolf. By calling everything racist and always claiming someone is pulling the so called "race card" they are desensitizing the masses(mainly whites and other races) to true racism. Which allows them more leeway in ignoring the shit which is more fucked up because they really never cared in the first place.

And the distinction between this lesser form of racism and "true racism" is...?

Their ain't levels to this shit IMO. Racism is racism is racism. Shit is wrong thats it.

Now for the true racsim comment, somethings are people practicing racism others are people just being bigots. Calling everything a bigot does and says racism is a problem because there is a difference.

There is a difference

but both can be shown to have real world consequences that can lead to the unequal treatment of racialized groups

My point was that there is a difference and with people not knowing about and/ or acknowledging that difference causes major problems when in fact there is racism at play.

I never denied the bold.

You seem to be against stigmatizing both the actions that result due to racism, prejudice and bigotry and the ideologies, claims, beliefs and values that promote and spread them. I agree they are not equivalent but they both still involve arbitrary racial categorization and can impede the efforts to establish more egalitarian social structures and practices.

Spoiler

I see it all as racism, and it's either detrimental, ineffectual or beneficial. Ineffectual or near ineffectual racism is of little concern outside of the fact that it has the potential to lead to more detrimental forms. Beneficial racism is seemingly a matter of perspective: Consider a racial group that is considered more attractive, commands greater sexual capital and can turn this into financial capital. While this preference can be seen as beneficial to that group, inherent in it is a devaluation of other groups relative to it, which is detrimental to them. This is why it seems a bit hasty to claim less overt forms of racial classification are not at all racist when the attribution of values in accordance to subjective views of racial classification can be effectual and even lead to more visible kinds

If we say that saying all Asians are bad drivers is not racist, then saying Black women are ugly is also not racist. But when this can affect their sexual and social capital, which in turn hinder their ability to develop relationships in various spheres of life and accumulate financial capital, and at its root is racial classification it seems part and parcel of the same undesirable process.

You can't say the bold cause that was never my point. That is a point you are making and like I said earlier I never denied that. That just wasn't the point I was making.

 

[LUClEN]

Whats fucked up with everything being made out to be racist is the fact that when something truly racist happens people now brush it off and feel like this is being blown out of proportion.

People are now feeling like anything racist is basically the boy crying wolf. By calling everything racist and always claiming someone is pulling the so called "race card" they are desensitizing the masses(mainly whites and other races) to true racism. Which allows them more leeway in ignoring the shit which is more fucked up because they really never cared in the first place.

And the distinction between this lesser form of racism and "true racism" is...?

Their ain't levels to this shit IMO. Racism is racism is racism. Shit is wrong thats it.

Now for the true racsim comment, somethings are people practicing racism others are people just being bigots. Calling everything a bigot does and says racism is a problem because there is a difference.

There is a difference

but both can be shown to have real world consequences that can lead to the unequal treatment of racialized groups

My point was that there is a difference and with people not knowing about and/ or acknowledging that difference causes major problems when in fact there is racism at play.

I never denied the bold.

You seem to be against stigmatizing both the actions that result due to racism, prejudice and bigotry and the ideologies, claims, beliefs and values that promote and spread them. I agree they are not equivalent but they both still involve arbitrary racial categorization and can impede the efforts to establish more egalitarian social structures and practices.

Spoiler

I see it all as racism, and it's either detrimental, ineffectual or beneficial. Ineffectual or near ineffectual racism is of little concern outside of the fact that it has the potential to lead to more detrimental forms. Beneficial racism is seemingly a matter of perspective: Consider a racial group that is considered more attractive, commands greater sexual capital and can turn this into financial capital. While this preference can be seen as beneficial to that group, inherent in it is a devaluation of other groups relative to it, which is detrimental to them. This is why it seems a bit hasty to claim less overt forms of racial classification are not at all racist when the attribution of values in accordance to subjective views of racial classification can be effectual and even lead to more visible kinds

If we say that saying all Asians are bad drivers is not racist, then saying Black women are ugly is also not racist. But when this can affect their sexual and social capital, which in turn hinder their ability to develop relationships in various spheres of life and accumulate financial capital, and at its root is racial classification it seems part and parcel of the same undesirable process.

You can't say the bold cause that was never my point. That is a point you are making and like I said earlier I never denied that. That just wasn't the point I was making.

So then what was the point of emphasizing the discrepancy between racist belief and "true racism", and "more fucked up" consequences?

 

[ohhhla]

Al Sharpton is a charlatan. So is all those black leaders. Fuck those victimizers

 

[Meta_Conscious]

What has Al Sharptin done that is so egregious?

 

[a.mann]

Al Sharpton is a charlatan. So is all those black leaders. Fuck those victimizers

Hmmmmmm.....

Interesting you immediately attacked Sharpton but NOT Sterling who HAS used his power and influence to showcase his disdain and contempt for black people...........

 

[D. Morgan]

Whats fucked up with everything being made out to be racist is the fact that when something truly racist happens people now brush it off and feel like this is being blown out of proportion.

People are now feeling like anything racist is basically the boy crying wolf. By calling everything racist and always claiming someone is pulling the so called "race card" they are desensitizing the masses(mainly whites and other races) to true racism. Which allows them more leeway in ignoring the shit which is more fucked up because they really never cared in the first place.

And the distinction between this lesser form of racism and "true racism" is...?

Their ain't levels to this shit IMO. Racism is racism is racism. Shit is wrong thats it.

Now for the true racsim comment, somethings are people practicing racism others are people just being bigots. Calling everything a bigot does and says racism is a problem because there is a difference.

There is a difference

but both can be shown to have real world consequences that can lead to the unequal treatment of racialized groups

My point was that there is a difference and with people not knowing about and/ or acknowledging that difference causes major problems when in fact there is racism at play.

I never denied the bold.

You seem to be against stigmatizing both the actions that result due to racism, prejudice and bigotry and the ideologies, claims, beliefs and values that promote and spread them. I agree they are not equivalent but they both still involve arbitrary racial categorization and can impede the efforts to establish more egalitarian social structures and practices.

Spoiler

I see it all as racism, and it's either detrimental, ineffectual or beneficial. Ineffectual or near ineffectual racism is of little concern outside of the fact that it has the potential to lead to more detrimental forms. Beneficial racism is seemingly a matter of perspective: Consider a racial group that is considered more attractive, commands greater sexual capital and can turn this into financial capital. While this preference can be seen as beneficial to that group, inherent in it is a devaluation of other groups relative to it, which is detrimental to them. This is why it seems a bit hasty to claim less overt forms of racial classification are not at all racist when the attribution of values in accordance to subjective views of racial classification can be effectual and even lead to more visible kinds

If we say that saying all Asians are bad drivers is not racist, then saying Black women are ugly is also not racist. But when this can affect their sexual and social capital, which in turn hinder their ability to develop relationships in various spheres of life and accumulate financial capital, and at its root is racial classification it seems part and parcel of the same undesirable process.

You can't say the bold cause that was never my point. That is a point you are making and like I said earlier I never denied that. That just wasn't the point I was making.

So then what was the point of emphasizing the discrepancy between racist belief and "true racism", and "more fucked up" consequences?

The point was there is a difference and that was it. You want to take that point further then go right ahead. But just because I did not take it further you can not say what I am against because you do not know that.

 

[LUClEN]

Whats fucked up with everything being made out to be racist is the fact that when something truly racist happens people now brush it off and feel like this is being blown out of proportion.

People are now feeling like anything racist is basically the boy crying wolf. By calling everything racist and always claiming someone is pulling the so called "race card" they are desensitizing the masses(mainly whites and other races) to true racism. Which allows them more leeway in ignoring the shit which is more fucked up because they really never cared in the first place.

And the distinction between this lesser form of racism and "true racism" is...?

Their ain't levels to this shit IMO. Racism is racism is racism. Shit is wrong thats it.

Now for the true racsim comment, somethings are people practicing racism others are people just being bigots. Calling everything a bigot does and says racism is a problem because there is a difference.

There is a difference

but both can be shown to have real world consequences that can lead to the unequal treatment of racialized groups

My point was that there is a difference and with people not knowing about and/ or acknowledging that difference causes major problems when in fact there is racism at play.

I never denied the bold.

You seem to be against stigmatizing both the actions that result due to racism, prejudice and bigotry and the ideologies, claims, beliefs and values that promote and spread them. I agree they are not equivalent but they both still involve arbitrary racial categorization and can impede the efforts to establish more egalitarian social structures and practices.

Spoiler

I see it all as racism, and it's either detrimental, ineffectual or beneficial. Ineffectual or near ineffectual racism is of little concern outside of the fact that it has the potential to lead to more detrimental forms. Beneficial racism is seemingly a matter of perspective: Consider a racial group that is considered more attractive, commands greater sexual capital and can turn this into financial capital. While this preference can be seen as beneficial to that group, inherent in it is a devaluation of other groups relative to it, which is detrimental to them. This is why it seems a bit hasty to claim less overt forms of racial classification are not at all racist when the attribution of values in accordance to subjective views of racial classification can be effectual and even lead to more visible kinds

If we say that saying all Asians are bad drivers is not racist, then saying Black women are ugly is also not racist. But when this can affect their sexual and social capital, which in turn hinder their ability to develop relationships in various spheres of life and accumulate financial capital, and at its root is racial classification it seems part and parcel of the same undesirable process.

You can't say the bold cause that was never my point. That is a point you are making and like I said earlier I never denied that. That just wasn't the point I was making.

So then what was the point of emphasizing the discrepancy between racist belief and "true racism", and "more fucked up" consequences?

The point was there is a difference and that was it. You want to take that point further then go right ahead. But just because I did not take it further you can not say what I am against because you do not know that.

I technically did not say that you are

I said it seems you are, which was my interpretation based on you pointing out the difference and how you portrayed the consequences of typifying anything involving race as racist

 

[D. Morgan]

Whats fucked up with everything being made out to be racist is the fact that when something truly racist happens people now brush it off and feel like this is being blown out of proportion.

People are now feeling like anything racist is basically the boy crying wolf. By calling everything racist and always claiming someone is pulling the so called "race card" they are desensitizing the masses(mainly whites and other races) to true racism. Which allows them more leeway in ignoring the shit which is more fucked up because they really never cared in the first place.

And the distinction between this lesser form of racism and "true racism" is...?

Their ain't levels to this shit IMO. Racism is racism is racism. Shit is wrong thats it.

Now for the true racsim comment, somethings are people practicing racism others are people just being bigots. Calling everything a bigot does and says racism is a problem because there is a difference.

There is a difference

but both can be shown to have real world consequences that can lead to the unequal treatment of racialized groups

My point was that there is a difference and with people not knowing about and/ or acknowledging that difference causes major problems when in fact there is racism at play.

I never denied the bold.

You seem to be against stigmatizing both the actions that result due to racism, prejudice and bigotry and the ideologies, claims, beliefs and values that promote and spread them. I agree they are not equivalent but they both still involve arbitrary racial categorization and can impede the efforts to establish more egalitarian social structures and practices.

Spoiler

I see it all as racism, and it's either detrimental, ineffectual or beneficial. Ineffectual or near ineffectual racism is of little concern outside of the fact that it has the potential to lead to more detrimental forms. Beneficial racism is seemingly a matter of perspective: Consider a racial group that is considered more attractive, commands greater sexual capital and can turn this into financial capital. While this preference can be seen as beneficial to that group, inherent in it is a devaluation of other groups relative to it, which is detrimental to them. This is why it seems a bit hasty to claim less overt forms of racial classification are not at all racist when the attribution of values in accordance to subjective views of racial classification can be effectual and even lead to more visible kinds

If we say that saying all Asians are bad drivers is not racist, then saying Black women are ugly is also not racist. But when this can affect their sexual and social capital, which in turn hinder their ability to develop relationships in various spheres of life and accumulate financial capital, and at its root is racial classification it seems part and parcel of the same undesirable process.

You can't say the bold cause that was never my point. That is a point you are making and like I said earlier I never denied that. That just wasn't the point I was making.

So then what was the point of emphasizing the discrepancy between racist belief and "true racism", and "more fucked up" consequences?

The point was there is a difference and that was it. You want to take that point further then go right ahead. But just because I did not take it further you can not say what I am against because you do not know that.

I technically did not say that you are

I said it seems you are, which was my interpretation based on you pointing out the difference and how you portrayed the consequences of typifying anything involving race as racist

My point still stands cause where you are taking a point I made was not my intention. I never denied or disagreed with where you futher took my point.

 

[ohhhla]

I was actually defending Sterling. He wasn't slaving black folks or whipping them. He just had his own opinion on them and he said this in the privacy of his home. Just like how black folks in the media can get away with jokes and it's funny towards white folks?

Most of the whites have power through hard work. I'm not a SJW so forgive me for not getting mad at Donald Sterling and Officer Wilson ok.

I find Blacks the most racist to be honest.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

Lol...

Nah Sterling was literally committing housing discrimination as well as mistreating black executives...

Smh

 

[D. Morgan]

I was actually defending Sterling. He wasn't slaving black folks or whipping them. He just had his own opinion on them and he said this in the privacy of his home. Just like how black folks in the media can get away with jokes and it's funny towards white folks?

Most of the whites have power through hard work. I'm not a SJW so forgive me for not getting mad at Donald Sterling and Officer Wilson ok.

I find Blacks the most racist to be honest.

This shit right here I can not believe you actually typed.

 

[Meta_Conscious]

He trolling...

 

[a.mann]

I'm not sure if he is trolling here or just a complete idiot

Either way for him to just casually sweep aside Sterling DECADES of bigotry & discrimination against countless minorities, literally destroying their family structure

disproves his own statement that ""white supremacy is a myth""

Because with all that,somehow Al Sharpton is the bigger miscreant and immoralist

 

[playmaker88]

In regards to regular observation, they think the mention of race, calling upon someone unknown to you by a racial identifier is "racist"

For instance if you say something as mundane as oh its the black dude over there..

Alot of people dont know the difference of stereotypes and racist comments.

some stereotypical comments can be racist if they are rooted in racism obviously

But saying Asians are bad drivers isnt a racist comment

Just as saying someone looks Mexican

What makes comments racist is usually what the person says next.. when speaking of stereotypes

Everyone does this but I see this in white people especially in innocuous comments.. they'll say well that was racist with a little amused chuckle. That shit right there is just as bad because although its not racist.. they take it as a joke thinking what was said was racist

Why isn't the bolded racist?

Because their is no racial atttachment to saying they are bad drivers its a stereotypical conclusion not rooted in racism unless you say some shit like because of their slanted eyes or some dumb shit like that now if you say All asian women are whores thats racist because the connotation is venomous and rooted in a RACIST stereotype instead of a generalized assumption like all asians are good at math.

Thats just how I see it... its the words after that stereotypical comment that make something racist in most cases..

Just my own view and how I always seen it

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