overall which league has the better athletes......

[DaFifthElement]

He ignored that. Said they run for 48 minutes so they're more athletic than any other sport. Soccer runs for 45 mins at a time (twice), no break and he ignored it

Me and my Uncle had this conversation not too long ago. No doubt in my mind those dudes have to be in tip top shape. Cardio = Athleticism to me. Those dudes hearts are pumping tough-like, non stop. Its a reason its the most popular sport in the World.

 

[Itz Luigi Bitch!]

Being an athlete is being a spectrum of different things...

I would say the most athletic person in the NBA would have a bigger impact in the NFL, than the other way around...but there's too many players to account for to come with a complete definite answer.

 

[bow to royalty]

Being an athlete is being a spectrum of different things...

I would say the most athletic person in the NBA would have a bigger impact in the NFL, than the other way around...but there's too many players to account for to come with a complete definite answer.

You're looking at basketball skill though (not athleticism) when you think about an NFL player crossing over into the NBA. It's not that the NFL player would be too slow, weak, or out of shape to play well. Lebron's a very gifted athlete. Does his difficulty with free throws make him less athletic? No, because it's a skill.

 

[nycest_1]

quick answer is nfl is sprinters nba is marathon.......which one takes more athleticism?

i say a marathon runner. they are in better shape and their muscles are conditioned to do hard work longer.

 

[nycest_1]

are we serious??? the nba has the worse athletes

you got niggas like shawn bradley starting...yao ming dropping buckets...zach randolph's ass

in the nfl we got 300 pd lineman doing athletic shit you 180 lbs can't

scust....are y'all serious...what nba player is benching 225 period??? only lebron

what nba player is running a 4.3-4.5 only lebron

our offensive lineman got more vert than 80% of your centers

I'd like to see Kevin durant doing a shuttle drill

Look at melo fat ass...when's the last time that nigga ain't have a gut???

There is a reason why Lebron is a physical specimen, he's a football player playing basketball.

*I know it sounded like a rant but its not*

you obviously are an nfl fan and are biased......either that or an idiot.

melo is a fat ass with a gut....and linemen aren't?

shawn bradley and yao are nba players they don't have nfl bodies because they arent compact. but shawn bradley can run for longer distances than damn near 75% of the nfl

plenty of nba players bench 225. matter of fact most niggaz can bench their body weight. now the 300+ mark is trickier. but lets look at those lifts nfl niggaz do? the shit is like 1-3 reps at best lol

and wtf is this "our" bullshit? are you an nfl player?

how the fuck you figure a lineman has a higher vert than kevin durant? because durant only has to jump about a foot to dunk a basketball?

he doesn't fuckin jump that high because hes not really pushed too lol niggaz don't think i swear

and nfl tests for short distance running because its a short distance sport. niggaz make those short bursts of speed therefore they train for it.

how many of these speed demons do you have playing a full court game on an nba court and not getting winded?

terrell owens played ball and he wasn't running circles around niggaz nor was he throwing it on niggaz from the free throw lol

 

[coop9889]

LMAO at some of the comments in here.

ANYBODY trying to compare how a player in one sport would do in another sport, and trying to base their argument off of that, is a DUMB ASS NIGGA.

"Oh.. ohh.. *insert random NFL player* couldn't play in the NBA though!"

Muthafucka you could be the strongest, fastest, most jumping-est nigga in the world, and still suck at basketball. Cuz you have to have BASKETBALL-SPECIFIC SKILLS in order to prosper. You have to KNOW the game of basketball. Basketball IQ. You have to be able to dribble the ball with efficiency. You have to be able to SHOOT efficiently. Rebound the ball with technique. Etc... Skills that NO other sport requires.

So trying to tell us how an NFL player would fare in the NBA... without seeing any type of indication of the NFL player's BASKETBALL SPECIFIC SKILLS, is ludicrous.

I have nothing against this nigga Bilfiger, but there are so many of your posts that make me SMMFH. Son... I don't even know where to start.

Yall mind if I ether this nigga?

bball takes the most conditioning out of any sport they dont get 14 play 8 minute drives to rest them niggas runnin non stop

Out of ANY sport my nigga? ANY sport tho. First off, name me a NBA player that averages 48 mpg. Niggas don't be in the game ALL the time. Soccer players run more in one game than NBA players do in 2. Watch a full game of NBA, then watch a HALF of soccer, and tell me who runs more.

On the flipside I can go on a football field and be primetime off my speed alone

L-M-A-O at you saying how you could be a star in the NFL. Why the fuck ain't you in the league then? Name me ONE position where if you have nothing but speed. (No vision, no hands, no throwing ability, no AGILITY, no kicking ability, can't tackle) where you could be better than a 19th string. Also, niggas seem to forget (or not know, if they never played football) that running in pads is WAY different than running without them.

In the nfl the offense and defense rests EVERY Play either squad is resting in the nba the best players play 42+ minutes running,shooting,runnin through screens,playing Defense,runnin through picks vs the best

Just to kill this post, only ONE player in the League averaged 40 mpg. ONE.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/minutes/sort/avgMinutes
1 Monta Ellis, 40.3
2 Rudy Gay 39.9
3 LaMarcus Aldridge 39.6
4 Luol Deng 39.1
5 Kevin Durant 38.9
6 LeBron James 38.8
7 Dorell Wright 38.4
8 Blake Griffin 38.0
9 Gerald Wallace 37.9
10 Deron Williams 37.9

And I played football in high school homeboy

As a Person who did both in high school before I became an utter F up

Basketball takes more athletic ability

I outran the football niggas easy them niggas suck and I smoked weed and drank and never worked out

Hahahaha this nigga's comparing the athleticism of professional, grown men whose LIFE is based on football against little 16-17 year old boys. Nigga what HS you go to? I bet it ain't even Top 50 in your STATE. This post gives you no credibility.

This is the definition of athlete

A person possessing the natural or acquired traits, such as strength, agility, and endurance, that are necessary for physical exercise or sports, especially those performed in competitive contexts.

Lets rate athleticism based of the criteria YOU provided.

Strength is not comparable. If you think overall NBA niggas are stronger than NFL, you just a dumber nigga than I thought.

Endurance is in favor of the NFL as well. For one, niggas are wearing pads and helmets and way more material. The majority of positions are either tackling or getting tackled the entire game. These players have more endurance because their bodies ENDURE more throughout a game. Simply because the sport is more physical. I dare you to say the NBA is more physical.

Agility is hard to compare, because of the pads factor. But if we choose the worst candidates from both leagues, I'll take most lineman over Shaq in the shuttle and/or cone drill.

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And it's just funny how Bilfiger wanna use the BEST BBALL PLYER OF ALL TIME and Derrick Rose, the current MVP of the LEAGUE to justify his arguments. And compare them to random ass LINEMEN like Wilfork and shit. As if every nigga in the NFL is a lineman.

Talkin bout, "nigga show me an NFL player who can do this. " *posts amazing dunk by rose*

NIGGA!

THERE ARE PLENTY OF NIGGAS IN THE NBA WHO CANT DO THAT.
That's why MJ and Rose are the best at what they do gtfoh.

[video=youtube;ZFLUfpXU-KA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFLUfpXU-KA&feature=related[/video]

"GOAT" athlete look how hard this is a punter he runs behind blockers great moves this is tough

Think about a broken play in basketball how u can run from one end and back 2-3 times in 60 seconds

NBA court is 94 feet long. ~32 yards. The punter in YOUR video ran 80 yards in about 11 seconds. AND at full sprint, AND made a nigga miss who was trying to tackle him. Not to mention the entire Saints team sprinting 50+ yards to catch him, while trying to avoid blocks. Just watch the nigga who comes outta nowhere to actually catch the punter.
"broken play" in NFL > "broken play" in NBA

In the nfl randall cunningham,randy moss,barry sanders,mike vick,deoin sanders,bo jackson are/were considered athletes they were the exceptions to the usual

In the nba Everybody is considered an athlete

Nigga if you are even IN the league (NFL OR NBA) you are considered a professional what? A professional ATHLETE.

athlete: Noun: A person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise.

But shit, check your definition:

This is the definition of athlete

A person possessing the natural or acquired traits, such as strength, agility, and endurance, that are necessary for physical exercise or sports, especially those performed in competitive contexts.

Bilfiger owned this argument hands down. This aint about speed or strength its about overall athleticism.

Qtipp, you clearly don't even know what you're cosigning.

Owens,Gonzalez,McNabb,Gates,Peppers who are all pro in football were average at best basketball players.

Matter of fact AI was rated higher than Vick in high school football and thats a known fact.

You, sir, fall under the category of dumb ass nigga. Like I previously stated you can't talk about a football player's BASKETBALL SPECIFIC SKILLS to discuss his athleticism.

And how the fuck is AI's rating even relevant. That just shows the scouts were dumb as fuck.

Where is Iverson now?

Where is Vick now?

Oh... ok

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So Bilfiger next time you find yourself in a sports thread:

I don't see how we'd truly know. NFL players run and jump and have their speed and agility tested all the time just as NBA players do. The main difference is that NBA players don't take physical punishment comparable to what NFL players go through.

When we talk about "athletes" how much are we referring to "refined skill" vs. all out explosiveness/strength/speed/agility, etc.?

This was the most slept on post in the thread.

Btw, niggas ain't talkin bout rugby tho? It's like a mixture of football and soccer.

 

[coop9889]

Oh and how could i forget...

I CAN Go in the nfl and do what desean jackson does

RIGHT NOW

LOL.

Bilfiger at the combine

Here go this nigga bilfiger first play in the NFL. He #17

This nigga Bilfiger...

Bilfiger GOAT

FOH

 

[bow to royalty]

LMAO at some of the comments in here.

ANYBODY trying to compare how a player in one sport would do in another sport, and trying to base their argument off of that, is a DUMB ASS NIGGA.

"Oh.. ohh.. *insert random NFL player* couldn't play in the NBA though!"

Muthafucka you could be the strongest, fastest, most jumping-est nigga in the world, and still suck at basketball. Cuz you have to have BASKETBALL-SPECIFIC SKILLS in order to prosper. You have to KNOW the game of basketball. Basketball IQ. You have to be able to dribble the ball with efficiency. You have to be able to SHOOT efficiently. Rebound the ball with technique. Etc... Skills that NO other sport requires.

So trying to tell us how an NFL player would fare in the NBA... without seeing any type of indication of the NFL player's BASKETBALL SPECIFIC SKILLS, is ludicrous.

I have nothing against this nigga Bilfiger, but there are so many of your posts that make me SMMFH. Son... I don't even know where to start.

Yall mind if I ether this nigga?

Out of ANY sport my nigga? ANY sport tho. First off, name me a NBA player that averages 48 mpg. Niggas don't be in the game ALL the time. Soccer players run more in one game than NBA players do in 2. Watch a full game of NBA, then watch a HALF of soccer, and tell me who runs more.

L-M-A-O at you saying how you could be a star in the NFL. Why the fuck ain't you in the league then? Name me ONE position where if you have nothing but speed. (No vision, no hands, no throwing ability, no AGILITY, no kicking ability, can't tackle) where you could be better than a 19th string. Also, niggas seem to forget (or not know, if they never played football) that running in pads is WAY different than running without them.

Just to kill this post, only ONE player in the League averaged 40 mpg. ONE.

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/minutes/sort/avgMinutes
1 Monta Ellis, 40.3
2 Rudy Gay 39.9
3 LaMarcus Aldridge 39.6
4 Luol Deng 39.1
5 Kevin Durant 38.9
6 LeBron James 38.8
7 Dorell Wright 38.4
8 Blake Griffin 38.0
9 Gerald Wallace 37.9
10 Deron Williams 37.9

Hahahaha this nigga's comparing the athleticism of professional, grown men whose LIFE is based on football against little 16-17 year old boys. Nigga what HS you go to? I bet it ain't even Top 50 in your STATE. This post gives you no credibility.

Lets rate athleticism based of the criteria YOU provided.

Strength is not comparable. If you think overall NBA niggas are stronger than NFL, you just a dumber nigga than I thought.

Endurance is in favor of the NFL as well. For one, niggas are wearing pads and helmets and way more material. The majority of positions are either tackling or getting tackled the entire game. These players have more endurance because their bodies ENDURE more throughout a game. Simply because the sport is more physical. I dare you to say the NBA is more physical.

Agility is hard to compare, because of the pads factor. But if we choose the worst candidates from both leagues, I'll take a lineman over Shaq in the shuttle and/or cone drill.

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And it's just funny how Bilfiger wanna use the BEST BBALL PLYER OF ALL TIME and Derrick Rose, the current MVP of the LEAGUE to justify his arguments. And compare them to random ass LINEMEN like Wilfork and shit. As if every nigga in the NFl is a lineman.

Talkin bout, "nigga show me an NFL player who can do this. " *posts amazing dunk by rose*

NIGGA!

THERE ARE PLENTY OF NIGGAS IN THE NBA WHO CANT DO THAT.
That's why MJ and Rose are the best at what they do gtfoh.

NBA court is 94 feet long. ~32 yards. The punter in YOUR video ran 80 yards in about 11 seconds. AND at full sprint, AND made a nigga miss who was trying to tackle him. Not to mention the entire Saints team sprinting 50+ yards to catch him, while trying to avoid blocks. Just watch the nigga who comes outta nowhere to actually catch the punter.
"broken play" in NFL > "broken play" in NBA

Nigga if you are even IN the league (NFL OR NBA) you are considered a professional what? A professional ATHLETE.

athlete: Noun: A person who is proficient in sports and other forms of physical exercise.

But shit, check your definition:

Qtipp, you clearly don't even know what you're cosigning.

You, sir, fall under the category of dumb ass nigga. Like I previously stated you can't talk about a football player's BASKETBALL SPECIFIC SKILLS to discuss his athleticism.

And how the fuck is AI's rating even relevant. That just shows the scouts were dumb as fuck.

Where is Iverson now?

Where is Vick now?

Oh... ok

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So Bilfiger next time you find yourself in a sports thread:

This was the most slept on post in the thread.

Btw, niggas ain't talkin bout rugby tho? It's like a mixture of football and soccer.

SOME OF THE SAME SHIT I WAS SAYIN! Thank you for making sense. Bilfiger won't respond to what you said though

 

[coop9889]

Yeah my fault if I was repeating some shit niggas was saying.

That just emphasizes how much common sense that nigga lacked.

 

[bow to royalty]

Yeah my fault if I was repeating some shit niggas was saying.

That just emphasizes how much common sense that nigga lacked.

They don't realize they're comparing basketball skill to athleticism. If a football player misses a 3 it's not cuz he wasn't fast enough, strong enough, or in good enough shape to reach the damn rim. It's cuz he doesn't have that skill. Go back and look at where he posted the definition of athlete and STILL didn't use it when talkin bout basketball players. Post 38 and 57 should sum it up

 

[bow to royalty]

An alias or lurker name dropped me 35 times and quoted every single post I made lmao

prolly took u 25 minutes to post that shit

And nothin u said changes my opinion

Basketball has more athletes and requires more athletic ability

Haha, hell no it doesn't

 

[coop9889]

An alias or lurker name dropped me 35 times and quoted every single post I made lmao

prolly took u 25 minutes to post that shit

And nothin u said changes my opinion

Basketball has more athletes and requires more athletic ability

Cuz you a dumb ass nigga.

Just in that one post nigga.

Everyone in the NBA and NFL is an athlete, by your definition and mine.

Athletes in NFL = ~1600+
Athletes in NBA = ~450

More athletes in NFL than NBA.

You stay losin.

 

[bow to royalty]

Cosign this post too

Most of the cats who are emphatically sayin football are people who are nfl dickriders

None of u can hoop,none of u can play football none of u are athletes

Irrelevant assumptions>>facts now? CS is takin a turn for the worst. The NFL has better athletes. It's ok, it's not the end of the world.

 

[bow to royalty]

Why do you keep sayin linemen aren't athletes? The same way NBA players blow them out the water in endurance, linemen blow them out the water in strength.

 

[dc's teflondon]

the nba has the best athletes....close thread

 

[coop9889]

Lol this nigga keep bringing up 'fat boys' n shit.

All of them are stronger than you, most of them faster than you.

 

[bow to royalty]

All them fat dudes who be at the nfl combines or who are in the nfl running wit they bellies disgustingly floppin all over the place would get dusted by me I swear to God

This aint a video game

Aint no speed bursts I can dust ALL them niggas in an open field sprinting

Now put that in the dumb quotes thread

Peppers ran a 4.68 40. Freeney ran a 4.48.

 

[one_manshow]

The CS should have more discussions/debates like this....good points coming from both sides.

 

[Will Munny]

NFL has the most raw athleticism, but I would say the NBA ties it all together the best.

 

[daboyag1]

MLB aint even got no business being in this discussion, and but Imma go with the NFL as far as athleticism tho, skill is a totally different story