overall which league has the better athletes......

[D.D.S.]

nba .

 

[tru_m.a.c]

35 inch vert is HS is really damn good. Calvin Johnson had a 34, AJ Green had a 32, and Julio had a 40 inch vert in HS. In college for Football, they would train you at those things. In Basketball, we worked on skill, plays, conditioning and coordination.

It was a type and you're missing the point. You're conveniently missing the point.

If you can't catch, you're not seeing the field.

If your 40 time is higher than a 4.6 you're not seeing the field.

If you can't seperate from a defender you're not seeing the field.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

I don't see how we'd truly know. NFL players run and jump and have their speed and agility tested all the time just as NBA players do. The main difference is that NBA players don't take physical punishment comparable to what NFL players go through.

show me the NBA player speed and agility records

 

[6ft5]

There's exceptions and variables to every sport

Not everyone in the NBA are athletic some people are just specialist at certain things example 3point shooters that can't do anything else

 

[CoolJoe]

Nfl...................

 

[R.D.]

Robert Traylor -Athletic
Donyell Marshall- Athletic
Zach Randolph-Athletic
Antoine Walker-Athletic
Glen Davis-Athletic

 

[qtipp73]

Bilfiger owned this argument hands down. This aint about speed or strength its about overall athleticism.

NBA has better athletes pure and simple.

Owens,Gonzalez,McNabb,Gates,Peppers who are all pro in football were average at best basketball players.

Matter of fact AI was rated higher than Vick in high school football and thats a known fact.

 

[Mr.Bocario]

You guys act like everyone in the NFL is running 4.2s and and jumping with 42 inch verts. And not everyone in the nba has 7ft wingspan and can jump out of a gym. Both have athletic beast and both bums.

PS: Lebron James and kobe in his prime would put to shame every NFL db,wr,rb in any athletic test

 

[#1 pick]

It was a type and you're missing the point. You're conveniently missing the point.

If you can't catch, you're not seeing the field.

If your 40 time is higher than a 4.6 you're not seeing the field.

If you can't seperate from a defender you're not seeing the field.

That's bullshit. Most college WR's run 4.6-4.8 range. Some have hands of brick but can block well in a run scheme and some schemes are known for creating separation. In fact, I have buddies who played College Football who never played WR move there and was the most talent at top tier schools. You are BS'in. Not everyone is Moss. Only a few are that talented.

 

[#1 pick]

Wilt Chamberlain was said to be one of the most gifted players who tried out for a NFL team but choose otherwise because he wanted to be QB. Lebron James was a Parade AA WR as a Soph. He was 6'8 225 at that time which is mindblowing at that position.

 

[bow to royalty]

Bilfiger owned this argument hands down. This aint about speed or strength its about overall athleticism.

NBA has better athletes pure and simple.

Owens,Gonzalez,McNabb,Gates,Peppers who are all pro in football were average at best basketball players.

Matter of fact AI was rated higher than Vick in high school football and thats a known fact.

I may nominate this to the dumb things people say in the cheap seats thread too

 

[R.D.]

I may nominate this to the dumb things people say in the cheap seats thread too

Please do.Immediately

 

[bow to royalty]

Please do.Immediately

it's been taken care of

 

[qtipp73]

it's been taken care of

nigga dont come lurking if u aint gonna contribute to the post

and how is that dumb. thats all fucking facts bitch.

 

[bow to royalty]

Ya'll are goin in on lineman, but the only think they lack is POSSIBLY endurance. They're strong, they're fast....what exactly discounts them as legit athletes?

 

[bow to royalty]

nigga dont come lurking if u aint gonna contribute to the post

and how is that dumb. thats all fucking facts bitch.

Lurkin? Hell are you talkin about? I BEEN postin in here. Looks like you just showed up and postin w/o reading.

The fact that you didn't see ANY of my posts means u haven't really been readin. So how do you figure Bilfiger dominated the debate?

 

[GettinLo]

Between the 2 leagues, different athletic traits are desired.

NBA - Height, speed, jumping ability, endurance, hand/eye coordination, and vision are desired traits

NFL - Different positions require different athletic traits. QB - Vision, RB - Speed, Strength, Agility, WR - Speed, Agility, Hand/Eye, Linemen - Girth, Strength, Balance.

Notices that everyone agrees that MLB has the worst athletes...

 

[bow to royalty]

Offensive and defensive lineman+ fullbacks+ kickers+punter and tight ends make up at least 60% of the league

Qb's are not athletes only the black qb's are, word to Big ben,Brady,manning,carson palmer,joe flacco who are all cracka stiffs

all rb's are not athletes michael turner is a fat boy wit speed

Nba destroys these niggas athletically

Nate robinson could go to the nfl and be a cb in the nba he a backup

Lineman are athletic. You don't think so because you base athleticism almost entirely on endurance

 

[MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14]

Offensive and defensive lineman+ fullbacks+ kickers+punter and tight ends make up at least 60% of the league

Qb's are not athletes only the black qb's are, word to Big ben,Brady,manning,carson palmer,joe flacco who are all cracka stiffs

all rb's are not athletes michael turner is a fat boy wit speed

Nba destroys these niggas athletically

Nate robinson could go to the nfl and be a cb in the nba he a backup

but still tim tebow is more athletic than jimmer or jj reddick

 

[tru_m.a.c]

That's bullshit. Most college WR's run 4.6-4.8 range. Some have hands of brick but can block well in a run scheme and some schemes are known for creating separation. In fact, I have buddies who played College Football who never played WR move there and was the most talent at top tier schools. You are BS'in. Not everyone is Moss. Only a few are that talented.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/participants?filterType=positionGroup&filterCond=WR

go to the website to see the times more clearly....but as you can clearly see most WR's DO NOT run between 4.6-4.8....I say this again, when you niggas speak do you think about how stupid you sound?

Adams, Darvin WR 6-02 190 Auburn SEC 4.56 - - - - - -

2495445 Baldwin, Jonathan WR 6-04 228 Pittsburgh Big East 4.5 20.0 42.0 129.0 7.07 4.34 11.4

2495446 Binns, Armon WR 6-03 209 Cincinnati Big East 4.53 13.0 31.5 118.0 6.86 4.31 -

2495447 Brown, DeAndre WR 6-06 233 Southern Miss Conference USA 4.59 20.0 29.0 117.0 6.93 4.33 -

2495128 Brown, Vincent WR 5-11 187 San Diego St. Mountain West 4.71 12.0 33.5 121.0 6.64 4.25 -

2495266 Burton, Stephen WR 6-01 221 West Texas A&M Lone Star 4.53 19.0 34.5 117.0 7.04 4.31 -

2495448 Cobb, Randall WR 5-10 191 Kentucky SEC 4.46 16.0 33.5 115.0 7.08 4.34 11.56

2495275 Dell, Mark WR 6-00 193 Michigan St. Big 10 - 14.0 - - - - -

2495449 Doss, Tandon WR 6-02 201 Indiana Big 10 - 14.0 - - - - -

2495284 Gates, Edmond WR 6-00 192 Abilene Christian Lone Star 4.37 16.0 40.0 131.0 - - -

2495450 Green, A.J. WR 6-04 211 Georgia SEC 4.5 18.0 34.5 126.0 6.91 4.21 11.46

2495451 Gurley, Tori WR 6-04 216 South Carolina SEC 4.56 15.0 33.5 118.0 7.05 4.25 11.6

2495452 Hamler, Jamel WR 6-01 193 Fresno St. WAC 4.62 4.0 32.0 112.0 7.16 4.18 11.53

2495158 Hankerson, Leonard WR 6-02 209 Miami ACC 4.43 14.0 36.0 117.0 6.94 4.21 11.37

2495159 Harris, Dwayne WR 5-10 203 East Carolina Conference USA 4.55 10.0 34.0 111.0 6.77 4.21 11.68

2495453 Holmes, Andre WR 6-04 210 Hillsdale Great Lakes 4.53 11.0 35.0 130.0 6.69 4.31 11.4

2495296 Jean, Lestar WR 6-03 215 Florida Atlantic Sun Belt 4.65 14.0 37.5 113.0 7.45 4.43 11.68

2495179 Jernigan, Jerrel WR 5-09 185 Troy Sun Belt 4.46 11.0 37.5 124.0 7.07 4.25 11.57

2495182 Johnson, Ronald WR 5-11 199 USC Pac 10 4.46 16.0 - - - - -

2495454 Jones, Julio WR 6-03 220 Alabama SEC 4.39 17.0 38.5 135.0 6.66 4.25 11.07

2495189 Kerley, Jeremy WR 5-10 189 TCU Mountain West 4.62 16.0 34.5 120.0 - - -

2495192 Little, Greg WR 6-03 220 North Carolina ACC 4.53 27.0 40.5 129.0 6.8 4.21 11.28

2495306 Lockette, Ricardo WR 6-02 211 Fort Valley St. Southern 4.37 - 35.5 127.0 7.15 4.19 11.27

2495457 Maehl, Jeffrey WR 6-01 190 Oregon Pac 10 4.62 - 33.5 115.0 6.42 3.94 10.88

2495315 Moore, Denarius WR 6-00 194 Tennessee SEC 4.45 13.0 36.0 118.0 6.78 4.15 -

2495316 Morgan, Joe WR 6-01 189 Walsh Mid-States Mideast 4.44 10.0 35.5 123.0 6.91 4.25 11.27

2495318 Murdock, O.J. WR 5-11 197 Fort Hays St. Rocky Mountain 4.56 15.0 34.5 116.0 - 4.37 -

2495458 Newsome, Jamar WR 6-01 200 Central Florida Conference USA 4.51 13.0 38.5 129.0 6.83 4.22 11.06

2495211 Paul, Niles WR 6-01 224 Nebraska Big 12 4.51 24.0 34.5 117.0 6.9 4.14 11.75

2495212 Pettis, Austin WR 6-03 209 Boise St. WAC 4.61 14.0 33.5 120.0 6.68 3.88 11.14

2495326 Pilares, Kealoha WR 5-10 199 Hawaii WAC - 19.0 - - - - -

2495331 Robinson, Aldrick WR 5-10 184 SMU Conference USA 4.43 17.0 40.0 126.0 6.65 4.09 11.01

2495223 Salas, Greg WR 6-01 210 Hawaii WAC 4.56 15.0 37.0 120.0 6.65 4.1 11.21

2495336 Sampson, Demarco WR 6-02 204 San Diego St. Mountain West - 14.0 - - - - -

2495337 Sanders, Jock WR 5-06 181 West Virginia Big East 4.53 19.0 34.5 121.0 6.78 4.13 -

2495338 Sanzenbacher, Dane WR 5-11 182 Ohio St. Big 10 4.59 - 33.5 118.0 6.46 3.97 10.94

2495341 Shorts, Cecil WR 6-00 205 Mount Union Ohio Athletic 4.59 21.0 34.5 114.0 6.5 4.07 11.18

2495348 Smith, Keith WR 6-02 214 Purdue Big 10 - - - - - - -

2495459 Smith, Torrey WR 6-01 204 Maryland ACC 4.43 19.0 41.0 126.0 6.72 4.13 11.33

2495349 Spencer, Owen WR 6-02 195 N.C. State ACC 4.54 6.0 37.5 125.0 6.86 4.18 11.16

2495242 Toliver, Terrence WR 6-04 212 LSU SEC 4.59 - 32.0 122.0 6.48 4.03 11.4

2495357 Turner, Terrance WR 6-02 220 Indiana Big 10 4.62 16.0 41.0 128.0 6.77 4.15 11.21

2495245 Whalen, Ryan WR 6-01 202 Stanford Pac 10 4.62 18.0 38.5 123.0 6.67 4.09 11.21

2495367 Williams, Marshall WR 6-01 188 Wake Forest ACC 4.56 9.0 35.5 123.0 6.61 4.09 11.38

2495369 Young, Jimmy WR 6-00 204 TCU Mountain West 4.51 19.0 37.0 115.0 7.08 4.18 -

2495253 Young, Titus WR 5-11 174 Boise St. WAC 4.53 - - 123.0 - - -