overall which league has the better athletes......

[R.D.]

The CS should have more discussions/debates like this....good points coming from both sides.

Not at all...these arguments from the NBA side are pathetic

 

[So ILL]

lol @ that Iverson pic

 

[will grimey]

Football......

 

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As u can see in this thread Im not upset at all Im stating my opinion

I couldn't care less which league has better athletes

Majority of all O and D lineman,punters,kickers,Te's,most Qb's are not athletic

Peyton manning,joe flacco are perfect examples

N Suh is the exception

this makes up the majority of the nfl thats what Im sayin we wont agree I can leave it at that

Lol @ the nfl having better athletes than the nba

In the nba you can play 4 -5 games in a week back to back wit niggas runnin constantly,doin reverses,dunking,jumping,shooting fadeaways,blocking shots,crossin niggas etc

It aint close

OK. I'll let you slide with K,P,QB's, OL,DL being unathletic. I don't agree, but we'll let it go

Do you agree that the other NFL positions are more athletic than NBA players? RB,WR,LB,DB's

 

[5th Letter]

OK. I'll let you slide with K,P,QB's, OL,DL being unathletic. I don't agree, but we'll let it go

Do you agree that the other NFL positions are more athletic than NBA players? RB,WR,LB,DB's

in my opinion it depends on the individual player. let me ask this question the best running back is adrian peterson (arguably) which nba player is he more atheletically better than?

 

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in my opinion it depends on the individual player. let me ask this question the best running back is adrian peterson (arguably) which nba player is he more atheletically better than?

I would say just about every NBA player. Dunno about EVERY one...but ya, just about.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

melo is a fat ass with a gut....and linemen aren't?

You're comparing a Small Forward to lineman? rly? you think thats a credible argument for your point?

shawn bradley and yao are nba players they don't have nfl bodies because they arent compact. but shawn bradley can run for longer distances than damn near 75% of the nfl

What is this based on? Are you stupid? Do you realize most centers can't even walk without limping? Have you seen Brook Lopez for example? Dude is so bow legged he can scratch his inner ankle with his big toe? Yao can't even run up and down the court at the same speed on a consistent basis. If we were to take out all of your centers in this athletic challenge, that would equate to 1/5th of your league. If we were to take out the PF's, that would equate to 2/5ths of your league. If we take out that many players, then you can no longer say you are the better athletes. We just took out 40% of your sample population.

You're only counter argument would be "look at your quarterbacks." To which we would say, our qbs are not athletes, we admit that. So what do you get by pointing that out? The fact that your adverse reaction to us condemning your centers, is by pointing out our quarterbacks just means you see them as equals.

plenty of nba players bench 225. matter of fact most niggaz can bench their body weight. now the 300+ mark is trickier. but lets look at those lifts nfl niggaz do? the shit is like 1-3 reps at best lol

The max rep at the 2011 combine was 49. Are you serious?

how the fuck you figure a lineman has a higher vert than kevin durant? because durant only has to jump about a foot to dunk a basketball?

There are standardized test genius. And you're missing the secondary point, the fact that you can only compare KD, a 6'9 230 player to a lineman in only a vert challenge says a lot about the athleticism of said lineman. What about the other parts of athleticism like strength, agility, top speed, endurance???

he doesn't fuckin jump that high because hes not really pushed too lol niggaz don't think i swear

So, if he doesn't jump that high, because he's not pushed too, doesn't that also mean he doesn't jump that high, RIGHT NOW, because he can't RIGHT NOW, because nobody has pushed him to RIGHT NOW. So how can you say he's more athletic if he hasn't even reached his athletic threshold? You can't. Because you're basing your argument off of potential. And its a potential that you're overrating because you WANT HIM to be more athletic.

and nfl tests for short distance running because its a short distance sport. niggaz make those short bursts of speed therefore they train for it.

so what point does this prove beside the NFL test for everything basketball does not. I have yet to see somebody drop a 40 time, an agility test, a vertical test, a shuttle test, a bench test, a squat test or any test for that matter

you have no athletic test to prove you are more athletic

 

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I would say just about every NBA player. Dunno about EVERY one...but ya, just about.

ad is more athlethic than every player? i disagree.

 

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That bench press shit he tried to say is silly. I looked up the NBA combine. They bench 185 instead of 225, and a lot of the players either can't lift it , or just back out of that part of the combine. Kevin Durant didn't do 185, and he's not the only one. So when whoever it was said u were wrong about NBA players and 225...you weren't

Now ya'll wanna go in on lineman for not bein able to run for long periods of time? How is the most athletic sport filled with dudes that can't even bench their body weight?

Damn...

 

[bow to royalty]

ad is more athlethic than every player? i disagree.

I took the time to emphasize not necessarily EVERY. But just about every. Where does he fall short ATHLETICALLY of NBA players.

Please don't use skills...lookin for athleticism

 

[tru_m.a.c]

ad is more athlethic than every player? i disagree.

you disagree on the what grounds???

I aint even read coopa 69's post yesterday cuz it was a column and I hardly read the cats who type them mega thesis's

But u sonned ya self and your whole argument wit this

Iversons game was predicated on speed,quickness

Now that iverson is 36 and dont have that same lightning fast speed and the quickness wit the rock

He's not in the nba

Once his athletic ability declined he cant make one nba roster

While peyton manning is 35,brady 34 and will be playing for another 3-4 years until they pushin 40 cuz they don't have to do anything athletically but avoid sacks or scramble out of bounds

Thanks for proving my point

you're comparing a position that demands athletic ability, to one that demands cognizant ability??? smh you niggas don't know how to compare and contrast

 

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That bench press shit he tried to say is silly. I looked up the NBA combine. They bench 185 instead of 225, and a lot of the players either can't lift it , or just back out of that part of the combine. Kevin Durant didn't do 185, and he's not the only one. So when whoever it was said u were wrong about NBA players and 225...you weren't

Now ya'll wanna go in on lineman for not bein able to run for long periods of time? How is the most athletic sport filled with dudes that can't even bench their body weight?

Damn...

Ya'll ever feel like you just gotta quote yourself for emphasis?

 

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It dont matter THEY ARE IN THE NFL

The question is which league requires more athletic ability

So omit all the lineman,qb's,kickers,punters,tight ends?

JUST compare the rb's,db's and wr's?

Thats 3 positions

Now What position in the nba does not require athletic ability tru mac?

Iverson played Pg and Sg he was a guard

Now name the positions that dont require it Lmao ya'll niggas aint provin jack just reacting wit emotion

Lineman have speed and strength. You discount them strictly off endurance.

And you stay duckin my posts. IF TIGER WOODS GOT UP OFF THE BENCH, NBA PLAYERS WOULD HAFTA TAKE WEIGHT AFTER WEIGHT AFTER WEIGHT OFF BEFORE THEY COULD USE THAT SHIT. AND THESE ARE OUR TOP ATHLETES?!?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

http://www.topendsports.com/sport/basketball/testing-draft-results.htm

A series of 'Athleticism Tests' are performed annually at the American NBA pre-draft camp. The test results from the NBA Draft camp are usually not released, but some have been found online. Below are best known results for each of the years since 2000. See also the top ranking lists for the years 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009. 2010, 2011

Bench Press

Year reps @185lbs player

2000 24 Justin Love

2001 23 Nate James

2002 24 J.R. Bremer, Chris Burgess

2003 27 Jason Keep

2004 22 Kris Humphries, Emeka Okafor & Chris Garnett

2005 26 Joey Graham

2006 26 Kenny Adeleke & Kenny Adeleke

2007 25 Russell Carter

2008 26 Josh Duncan

2009 22 Blake Griffin

2010 23 Luke Harangody

2011 19 Derrick Williams

best 27 Jason Keep

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thats so weak I won't even bother posting the NFL results

So far NFL 1 - NBA 0

 

[tru_m.a.c]

http://www.topendsports.com/sport/basketball/testing-draft-results.htm

NBAVertical Jump - max

Year height (inches) player

2000 43 Matt Santangelo

2001 45.5 Kenny Gregory

2002 40.5 Matt Barnes

2003 41.5 Ronald Dupree

2004 43.5 Nate Robinson & Tim Bowers

2005 40½ Will Bynum

2006 42.0 Jordan Farmar

2007 41.0 Al Thornton & Bobby Brown

2008 42 Patrick Ewing

2009 40 Jonny Flynn

2010 40 Terrico White

2011 42.0 Iman Shumpert

best 45.5 (115.6 cm) Kenny Gregory

NFL

Vertical Jump

year best (inches) name notes

1999 43.5 Jay Hinton (RB), Morgan State

2000 41.5 Keaton, Curtis

2001 45.0 Chris Chambers (WR), Wisconsin

2002 42.0 William Green (RB), Boston College

2003 42.5 Nate Burleson (WR), Nevada

2004 41.5 Bob Sanders

2005 46.0 Gerald Sensabaugh (FS), North Carolina

2006 42.5 R. McIntosh (LB), Miami

2007 41.5 Quincy Black

2008 39.0 Stewart, Carl

2009 45.0 Washington, Donald

2010 44.0 A.J. Jefferson

2011 42.5 V. Green

best ever 46.0 Gerald Sensabaugh Best since 1999

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NFL 2, NBA 0

 

[tru_m.a.c]

http://www.topendsports.com/sport/basketball/testing-draft-results.htm

NBA¾ Court Sprint

Year time (seconds) player

2000 3.00 Schea Cotton

2001 2.91 Cookie Belcher

2002 3.03 Damon Hancock

2003 3.04 Kirk Penney

2004 2.96 Nate Robinson

2005 3.00 Will Bynum

2006 3.06 Rodney Carney

2007 3.09 Mike Conley

2008 2.96 Sonny Weems

2009 3.03 Toney Douglas

2010 3.10 Trevor Booker

2011 3.02 Jereme Richmond

best 2.91 Cookie Belcher

NFL

40 Yards

year best name notes

1999 4.24 Rondel Melendez (WR), Eastern Kentucky

2000 4.32 Antwan Harris (CB), Virginia

2001 4.31 Santana Moss (WR), Miami

2002 4.31 Aaron Lockett (WR), Kansas State

2003 4.32 Kevin Garrett (CB), Southern Methodist

2004 4.33 Carlos Francis (WR), Texas Tech

2005 4.27 Stanford Routt

2006 4.30 T. Hill (CB), Clemson

2007 4.30 Yamon Figurs (WR), Kansas State. Another source has his time as 4.35, also the best of the year.

2008 4.24 Johnson, Chris

2009 4.30 Heyward-Bey, Darrius

2010 4.28 Jacoby Ford

2011 4.28 D. Van Dyke

best ever 4.24 Rondel Melendez and Chris Johnson This is the best result since 2009. Bo Jackson reportedly has a hand-timed 4.12 second 40 yard dash time performed in 1986. Also hand timed, Deion Sanders recorded a 4.19 sec in 1989 (hand timed), though another source has it that he was 'officially' recorded as 4.28 secs on this day.

10 Yard Sprint

year best name notes

1999 1.47 Jay Hinton (RB), Morgan State

2000 1.48 Antwan Harris (CB), Virginia

2001 1.50 McAllister, Deuce Mississippi

2002 1.50 Allen, Brian Stanford

2003 1.46 Colin Branch (FS), Stanford

2004 1.50 Sanders, Bob

1.50 Brown, Rufus

2005 1.46 Fabian Washington (CB), Nebraska

2006 1.48 Tim Jennings (CB), Georgia

2007 1.43 Aundrae Allison (WR), East Carolina

1.43 Eric Weddle (SS), Uta

1.43 Marcus McCauley (CB), Fresno State

2008 1.40 Johnson, Chris

1.40 King, Justin

2009 1.40 Peerman, Cedric

2010 ?

2011 ?

best ever 1.40 Cedric Peerman, Chris Johnson, Justin King best since 1999 (2010-2011 results unknown)

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NFL 3, NBA 0

Oh and check out http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/

or www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers

but if you're not dropping stats, and you're not dropping links, eat a dick

 

[tru_m.a.c]

It dont matter THEY ARE IN THE NFL

The question is which league requires more athletic ability

So omit all the lineman,qb's,kickers,punters,tight ends?

JUST compare the rb's,db's and wr's?

Thats 3 positions

Now What position in the nba does not require athletic ability tru mac?

Iverson played Pg and Sg he was a guard

Now name the positions that dont require it Lmao ya'll niggas aint provin jack just reacting wit emotion

who is omitting these ppl??? u fail to realize that 1 punter, 1 kicker and 3 quarterbacks still wouldn't fill up the depth chart for OLB. Thats 5 out of 52 players. you fail.

add the lineman, add the TE, they are still more athletic than your PF and your Centers

 

[bow to royalty]

http://www.topendsports.com/sport/basketball/testing-draft-results.htm

NBAVertical Jump - max
Year height (inches) player
2000 43 Matt Santangelo
2001 45.5 Kenny Gregory
2002 40.5 Matt Barnes
2003 41.5 Ronald Dupree
2004 43.5 Nate Robinson & Tim Bowers
2005 40½ Will Bynum
2006 42.0 Jordan Farmar
2007 41.0 Al Thornton & Bobby Brown
2008 42 Patrick Ewing
2009 40 Jonny Flynn
2010 40 Terrico White
2011 42.0 Iman Shumpert
best 45.5 (115.6 cm) Kenny Gregory

NFL
Vertical Jump
year best (inches) name notes
1999 43.5 Jay Hinton (RB), Morgan State
2000 41.5 Keaton, Curtis
2001 45.0 Chris Chambers (WR), Wisconsin
2002 42.0 William Green (RB), Boston College
2003 42.5 Nate Burleson (WR), Nevada
2004 41.5 Bob Sanders
2005 46.0 Gerald Sensabaugh (FS), North Carolina
2006 42.5 R. McIntosh (LB), Miami
2007 41.5 Quincy Black
2008 39.0 Stewart, Carl
2009 45.0 Washington, Donald
2010 44.0 A.J. Jefferson
2011 42.5 V. Green
best ever 46.0 Gerald Sensabaugh Best since 1999

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NFL 2, NBA 0

I was lookin this same thing up earlier. I figured all those NBA dudes do is jump, so they'll probably have better verticals. But when I saw the numbers...it was over. Can't run faster, jump higher, or lift more...

 

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Damn, forreal anyone who comes in and reads this thread and thinks NBA won is bias as fuck

 

[A$AP_A$TON]

Nba.......