Only 10 QB's in NFL HISTORY have WON more games than DONOVAN MCNABB......

[bankrupt baller]

Jim Johnson....

 

[lamontbdc]

yea Mcnabb not a hall of famer in my eyes. NFL hall of fame is more about big moments than stats unless you have huge numbers. It's why Art monk and many of these wr's like Reed, Carter and Tim Brown are struggling to get in. It's b/c they have no big moments in big games and never did anything clutch. Swann and Stallworth are in for having huge play off games more so than having great career stats. I think if McNabb had at least got the the bowl one more time he would have more of a shot. I mean at least Jim Kelly failed in the big game and not the mini big game.

So what "big" moments did Marino and Kelly have?

And Warren Moon?

Re read my 2nd and last sentence for your answer.

 

[CockMcStuffins]

yea Mcnabb not a hall of famer in my eyes. NFL hall of fame is more about big moments than stats unless you have huge numbers. It's why Art monk and many of these wr's like Reed, Carter and Tim Brown are struggling to get in. It's b/c they have no big moments in big games and never did anything clutch. Swann and Stallworth are in for having huge play off games more so than having great career stats. I think if McNabb had at least got the the bowl one more time he would have more of a shot. I mean at least Jim Kelly failed in the big game and not the mini big game.

So what "big" moments did Marino and Kelly have?

And Warren Moon?

Re read my 2nd and last sentence for your answer.

oh so its better to lose FOUR super bowls than just 1 or its better to be a loser in the super bowl instead of a conference title game

Ok I get it now.

 

[Matt-]

i don't think HOF voters will vote in terms of "if he had.." scenarios.

 

[CockMcStuffins]

Oh and in my comparison, one player had a hall of fame rb and wr while one didn't

 

[aneed123]

maybe if he had better weapons outside of Freddie Mitchell and Todd Pinkston he would have gone to more.... dude made sugar out of shit all those years prior to TO getting there and he gets shitted on smh

Quoted for fuckin emphasis. Who had less weapons then Mcnabb that has his numbers? If he wouldn't have made the playoffs only a couple times that would've been the reason why he doesn't deserve to get in. But since he did now we have to talk about sb's, in the NFL at that when we all know winning sb's has a lot more to do with the TEAM rather than JUST the QB.

all of that is true but mcnabb aint getting in the HOF unless its on his 7th attempt

I disagree. He will get in. U cant erase what he did

what did he do that was transcendent. he got to 5 nfc championship games and lost 4 out of 5. had opportunities to win the games even with the lack of playmakers but never made "THE" play to win the big game. He just didnt have it in him to be a HOF player.

Also the last 3 years are gonna hurt him when its time to vote for his HOF candidacy with voters. He's 35 and should still be a starting QB in the league. Brady and Manning are the same age and are still playing at all time levels. McNabb got fat and out of shape.

the last 3 years when he is out of his prime shouldnt determine... There are other players with out superbowl rings who are in the hall... is blanda better than Mcnabb? how about Otto Graham?, Jurgenson? Van Broklen? all of them are n the hall... Jim Kelly is looked upon as the ultimate choker and he is in. Mcnabb is a hall of famer and his numbers reflect it. Brady and Manning have had better teams and weapons that Mcnabb. They fact ur comparing him to those two tells a lot about him

 

[detcatinva]

maybe if he had better weapons outside of Freddie Mitchell and Todd Pinkston he would have gone to more.... dude made sugar out of shit all those years prior to TO getting there and he gets shitted on smh

Quoted for fuckin emphasis. Who had less weapons then Mcnabb that has his numbers? If he wouldn't have made the playoffs only a couple times that would've been the reason why he doesn't deserve to get in. But since he did now we have to talk about sb's, in the NFL at that when we all know winning sb's has a lot more to do with the TEAM rather than JUST the QB.

all of that is true but mcnabb aint getting in the HOF unless its on his 7th attempt

I disagree. He will get in. U cant erase what he did

what did he do that was transcendent. he got to 5 nfc championship games and lost 4 out of 5. had opportunities to win the games even with the lack of playmakers but never made "THE" play to win the big game. He just didnt have it in him to be a HOF player.

Also the last 3 years are gonna hurt him when its time to vote for his HOF candidacy with voters. He's 35 and should still be a starting QB in the league. Brady and Manning are the same age and are still playing at all time levels. McNabb got fat and out of shape.

the last 3 years when he is out of his prime shouldnt determine... There are other players with out superbowl rings who are in the hall... is blanda better than Mcnabb? how about Otto Graham?, Jurgenson? Van Broklen? all of them are n the hall... Jim Kelly is looked upon as the ultimate choker and he is in. Mcnabb is a hall of famer and his numbers reflect it. Brady and Manning have had better teams and weapons that Mcnabb. They fact ur comparing him to those two tells a lot about him

nigga i wasnt even born when graham and jurgenson were playing. they played in different era with different offensive philosophies. i've never heard the term of choker associated with jim kelly. It's not his fault he had a kicker miss a FG to win the superbowl. and i didnt compare mcnabb to peyton and brady. i contrasted mcnabb to them two. peyton and and brady have put up outstanding numbers at older ages due to still being determined staying in great shape and the desire to still win a championship. mcnabb got fat and that should be held againt him cuz at 35 he should be starting for a NFL team but he ate himself out the league and yes that has an overall affect on your career and HOF chances.

 

[lamontbdc]

Did you just actually question if there is a difference between getting the the big game 4 times vs once? do i really have to explain this?

 

[CockMcStuffins]

Did you just actually question if there is a difference between getting the the big game 4 times vs once? do i really have to explain this?

yes Nigga, it don't matter how many times u get there, any athlete worth anything will tell u, if u don't win it...it doesn't matter

I bet u anything if u would tell Jim Kelly that he got into the hall mainly because he lost 4 super bowls, he would give that yellow jacket back if it meant he would win ONE of those times he went.

Ol "im the first loser so I'm better than u" ass nigga

 

[CockMcStuffins]

Player A: 237-175 td/int...84.4 rating...35,467 yards...9-8 playoff record 4 pro bowls

Player B: 234-117 td/int...85.5 rating....37,099 yards....9-7 playoff record 6 pro bowls

So its THAT much difference between these two players that one is a sure bet, first ballot hall of famer while one ain't gonna get in according to yall or if he does, its gonna be on the 7th try?

Somebody answer this tho.....

 

[CoolJoe]

Yea.....you can't really agree with Kelly being a sure fire HOF, and then say McNabb isn't a HOF.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

McNabb is HOF its just that his career lacks those definitive moments. U know the shit sticks with ppl forever. His career seems to be bland as fuck.

 

[lamontbdc]

Did you just actually question if there is a difference between getting the the big game 4 times vs once? do i really have to explain this?

yes Nigga, it don't matter how many times u get there, any athlete worth anything will tell u, if u don't win it...it doesn't matter

I bet u anything if u would tell Jim Kelly that he got into the hall mainly because he lost 4 super bowls, he would give that yellow jacket back if it meant he would win ONE of those times he went.

Ol "im the first loser so I'm better than u" ass nigga

so i guess i do have to explain this. Give Mcnabb 3 more NFC championship titles vs 3 more choke jobs and his resume looks much better thus putting him better standing to get in the hall of fame. I'm really at a lost for words on how you can dispute that.

that's called a sports cliche used by fans homie. things you say in the heat of the moment in a losing situation. But trust players are glad to be in the playoffs vs the lottery. Players want to be in the super bowl not losing in the 1st round of the playoffs. things folks say after they lost but wouldn't say before they lost.

and the 1st loser is the team that has the number 1 draft pick not the team that lost in the super bowl.

 

[blakfyahking]

McNabb is a HOFmer

but I think politics is what might fuck him over

real talk he got shitted on after playing many good years for Philly

and as Redskin fan, I think Shanahan did him dirty.........he deserved a little more respect than what he got

IMO McNabb is the only black QB who can be outwardly bitter...........the rest of these niggaz like Kordell Stewart need to stop the bullshit like shit wasn't their own fault

 

[FlyFreeCt]

Fuck a Donovan McNabb...Nigga ain't never been shit in my book..

 

[vageneral08]

Marino never won the super bowl, neither did Jim Kelly and they're in

Oh I forgot, yall look past that for white boys but not for Niggas

Jim Kelly went to 4 super bowls. Marino is top 3 pure passers of all time and set a shit load of records. Mcnabb chokes in crunch time.

He played in a weak ass AFC, and got shitted on 3 of those 4 Super Bowl appearances.

Did he throw up on the field? lmao. Mcnabb will never live that down. He isn't built for the big stage.

He was sick bruh

 

[playmaker88]

Mcnabb career > Joe Namath most overrated HOF/ Superbowl winner ever..

 

[vageneral08]

McNabb is a HOFmer

but I think politics is what might fuck him over

real talk he got shitted on after playing many good years for Philly

and as Redskin fan, I think Shanahan did him dirty.........he deserved a little more respect than what he got

IMO McNabb is the only black QB who can be outwardly bitter...........the rest of these niggaz like Kordell Stewart need to stop the bullshit like shit wasn't their own fault

I agree more so his son did him even dirtier by getting him benched that's why I think RG3 wont shine like he wants because shanahan is gonna fuck him up

 

[rapmastermind]

LOL @ "What signature Wins does Mcnabb Have" as if "Superbowls" are the only signature wins. Mcnabb has been apart of 9 Playoff wins, 9 that's 1 shy of double digits. Mcnabb is placed at #11 all time. He actually has a better playoff record than Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, Steve Young and Jim Kelly. He has had 98 regular season wins that's 2 shy of breaking 100 regular season wins which only an elite few have ever done. It's funny dudes want to focus on Mcnabb's playoff losses and not his wins. Cowher lost 5 AFC Title games, Madden lost 3 or 4 AFC title games as coaches. Steve Young lost 3 NFC Title games. As for the Super Bowl, Mcnabb only lost that game by 3 points, the Pats did not blow out the Eagles and Brady is a Hall of Famer. Marnio lost his Superbowl to Montana. If you are going to lose the bowl, at least it's to a Legend. Mcnabb numbers clearly validate a HOF berth everyone trying to find excuses to deny he has some of the best overall numbers in NFL History.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_wins_by_a_starting_quarterback_(NFL)

 

[rapmastermind]

Fuck a Donovan McNabb...Nigga ain't never been shit in my book..

Mcnabb Eagles wiped the Giants up and down the floor year in and year out and he even Beat Eli in his house when they were the defending Superbowl Champs in the playoffs.

McNabb is HOF its just that his career lacks those definitive moments. U know the shit sticks with ppl forever. His career seems to be bland as fuck.

4th and 26 is one of the greatest plays in NFL Playoff History and he won 9 playoff games, far from lacking defining moments.

Also people harping on his last 2 years, he went to a trash Washington Team with an ego manaic coach and his son. Minny wasn't any better. Mcnabb was basically asked to walk on water those 2 years. I'm not saying he played his best but he took the blame when both of those teams problems were bigger than him. In Minny he was leading that team to lead after lead only for the Defense to blow it yet he fell on the sword. The man was just 1 game before the Superbowl in 2009 that wasn't that long ago.