bankrupt baller
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He had a great D behind him for like a decade....and the NFC east was terrible during that stretch
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Only 10 QB's in NFL HISTORY have WON more games than DONOVAN MCNABB......
vageneral08
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rapmastermind;4356052 said:FlyFreeCt;4355910 said:Fuck a Donovan McNabb...Nigga ain't never been shit in my book..
Mcnabb Eagles wiped the Giants up and down the floor year in and year out and he even Beat Eli in his house when they were the defending Superbowl Champs in the playoffs.
Elzo69Reloaded;4355758 said:McNabb is HOF its just that his career lacks those definitive moments. U know the shit sticks with ppl forever. His career seems to be bland as fuck.
4th and 26 is one of the greatest plays in NFL Playoff History and he won 9 playoff games, far from lacking defining moments.
Also people harping on his last 2 years, he went to a trash Washington Team with an ego manaic coach and his son. Minny wasn't any better. Mcnabb was basically asked to walk on water those 2 years. I'm not saying he played his best but he took the blame when both of those teams problems were bigger than him. In Minny he was leading that team to lead after lead only for the Defense to blow it yet he fell on the sword. The man was just 1 game before the Superbowl in 2009 that wasn't that long ago.
in 09? the eagles lost in the first playoff game
rapmastermind;4356030 said:LOL @ "What signature Wins does Mcnabb Have" as if "Superbowls" are the only signature wins. Mcnabb has been apart of 9 Playoff wins, 9 that's 1 shy of double digits. Mcnabb is placed at #11 all time. He actually has a better playoff record than Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, Steve Young and Jim Kelly. He has had 98 regular season wins that's 2 shy of breaking 100 regular season wins which only an elite few have ever done. It's funny dudes want to focus on Mcnabb's playoff losses and not his wins. Cowher lost 5 AFC Title games, Madden lost 3 or 4 AFC title games as coaches. Steve Young lost 3 NFC Title games. As for the Super Bowl, Mcnabb only lost that game by 3 points, the Pats did not blow out the Eagles and Brady is a Hall of Famer. Marnio lost his Superbowl to Montana. If you are going to lose the bowl, at least it's to a Legend. Mcnabb numbers clearly validate a HOF berth everyone trying to find excuses to deny he has some of the best overall numbers in NFL History.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_starting_quarterback_playoff_records
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Most_wins_by_a_starting_quarterback_(NFL)
Yea, we can end this thread now.
rapmastermind;4356052 said:FlyFreeCt;4355910 said:Fuck a Donovan McNabb...Nigga ain't never been shit in my book..
Mcnabb Eagles wiped the Giants up and down the floor year in and year out and he even Beat Eli in his house when they were the defending Superbowl Champs in the playoffs.
Elzo69Reloaded;4355758 said:McNabb is HOF its just that his career lacks those definitive moments. U know the shit sticks with ppl forever. His career seems to be bland as fuck.
4th and 26 is one of the greatest plays in NFL Playoff History and he won 9 playoff games, far from lacking defining moments.
Also people harping on his last 2 years, he went to a trash Washington Team with an ego manaic coach and his son. Minny wasn't any better. Mcnabb was basically asked to walk on water those 2 years. I'm not saying he played his best but he took the blame when both of those teams problems were bigger than him. In Minny he was leading that team to lead after lead only for the Defense to blow it yet he fell on the sword. The man was just 1 game before the Superbowl in 2009 that wasn't that long ago.
Cuz he beat us a few times, what the hell is that supposed to mean?? What does he have to show for all those times he beat us?? Absolutely nothing..And we use to beat him to, so let's not act like that nigga was undefeated against us or something...See that's the problem with Eagles, Eagle Fans, And defenders of the Eagles and their players..They get wrapped up in the small shit while a real team like the Giants win championships and come up big in big moments...Who cares if Donovan McNabb won 9 playoff games, shits irrelevant, he couldn't win the big game, he was too busy throwing up at the line of scrimmage cuz he was nervous like a lil bitch....While Eli Manning has won 2 Super Bowls and had 2 game winning drives in Super Bowls, 8 playoff wins and 5 of'em on the road which is an NFL record to...See I can bring up the small shit to, but it don't mean shit cuz winning championships is all that matters...O yea, and Eli beat that "Hall Of Fame" qb in the Super Bowl TWICE...Something McNabb's trash ass couldn't do once...I bet the same people who defend McNabb would be the same people to say Eli doesn't belong in the hall of fame smh..Ass backwards ass niggas..
Cosmic_Cannon
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I'm a Giants fan, and even I'll say that McNabb is a HoF'er.
This whole "McNabb never won" argument is bs, if that's the case.. then Eli is a HoF'er(Eli will probably make it, he's just not a HoF'er right now because his career hasn't been consistent), and we all know that's not true.
This whole "McNabb never won" argument is bs, if that's the case.. then Eli is a HoF'er(Eli will probably make it, he's just not a HoF'er right now because his career hasn't been consistent), and we all know that's not true.
rapmastermind
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vageneral08;4356085 said:in 09? the eagles lost in the first playoff game
Mcnabb Eagles played Arizona in the NFC Title game in Jan of 2009. During Jan 2010 they lost to the Cowboys in the 1st round which by the way was the 1st time Mcnabb ever lost in the 1st round. When Mcnabb makes it to the playoffs he makes it to the 2nd round or better. But that proves the point even futher he was good enough to have his team in the Playoffs just 2 short years ago but because he went to 2 horrible teams he can't play anymore? To lead your team to 5 NFC Title games means Mcnabb had his team in the Final 4 of the NFL and Final 2 of his conference almost half of his career, that can't be overlooked.
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rapmastermind
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bankrupt baller;4356082 said:He had a great D behind him for like a decade....and the NFC east was terrible during that stretch
Yes the Eagles D was serious but if it was all D, Mcnabb would not have the numbers he has. He's Top 25 ALL TIME in all the key statistic for a QB and he's Top 10 In INT-Ratio, Rushing Yards and TD's for a QB. PPL love to give the D all the credit for Mcnabb then what does that say about Eli and Big Ben who both rode their Defense's backs to titles. Where was that Eagles Defense during the Losses? Again it's Mcnabb fault when they lose but its' everyone but Mcnabb when they win.
rapmastermind
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@FlyFreeCt
LOL @ "9 Playoff wins is irrelevant". You have to win in the playoffs to get to the Super bowl. Again Winning a title is a TEAM accomplishment, no singular player in football wins a title. This isn't like Basketball or baseball. To say Mcnabb winning 9 playoffs games doesn't matter when 1 one of them was against your defending super bowl champ Gaints in your house is funny. Sure he didn't win the title but so didn't Marino, Kelly, Turkenton and Moon and they are all HOF. Every time the Giants won the Superbowl the Eagles were out of it cause you guy weren't barely making the playoffs during Mcnabb time with the Eagles. I commend the Giants for getting it done against the Pats twice but the 1st time you did it with Eagles Defensive Coach, never forget that. Also Eli will never have Mcnabb overall numbers even if he won 2 titles, so don't turn it into an Eli Vs Mcnabb. Cause most of the time when the Eagles played the Giants, they beat them when Mcnabb was QB, he left the Eagles with a 4 game winning streak against the Giants.
LOL @ "9 Playoff wins is irrelevant". You have to win in the playoffs to get to the Super bowl. Again Winning a title is a TEAM accomplishment, no singular player in football wins a title. This isn't like Basketball or baseball. To say Mcnabb winning 9 playoffs games doesn't matter when 1 one of them was against your defending super bowl champ Gaints in your house is funny. Sure he didn't win the title but so didn't Marino, Kelly, Turkenton and Moon and they are all HOF. Every time the Giants won the Superbowl the Eagles were out of it cause you guy weren't barely making the playoffs during Mcnabb time with the Eagles. I commend the Giants for getting it done against the Pats twice but the 1st time you did it with Eagles Defensive Coach, never forget that. Also Eli will never have Mcnabb overall numbers even if he won 2 titles, so don't turn it into an Eli Vs Mcnabb. Cause most of the time when the Eagles played the Giants, they beat them when Mcnabb was QB, he left the Eagles with a 4 game winning streak against the Giants.
rapmastermind;4356706 said:@FlyFreeCt
LOL @ "9 Playoff wins is irrelevant". You have to win in the playoffs to get to the Super bowl. Again Winning a title is a TEAM accomplishment, no singular player in football wins a title. This isn't like Basketball or baseball. To say Mcnabb winning 9 playoffs games doesn't matter when 1 one of them was against your defending super bowl champ Gaints in your house is funny. Sure he didn't win the title but so didn't Marino, Kelly, Turkenton and Moon and they are all HOF. Every time the Giants won the Superbowl the Eagles were out of it cause you guy weren't barely making the playoffs during Mcnabb time with the Eagles. I commend the Giants for getting it done against the Pats twice but the 1st time you did it with Eagles Defensive Coach, never forget that. Also Eli will never have Mcnabb overall numbers even if he won 2 titles, so don't turn it into an Eli Vs Mcnabb. Cause most of the time when the Eagles played the Giants, they beat them when Mcnabb was QB, he left the Eagles with a 4 game winning streak against the Giants.
Well seeing how McNabb was a seasoned veteran when he was going against us he was supposed to beat Eli...and I never said winning a championsip was a single player accomplishment...I'm simply saying, McNabb did not get it done when he had his chance at the end of the Super Bowl, but Eli did..TWICE..So yea let's not turn this into an Eli vs McNabb thing, cuz McNabb ain't built for it...and you know good n damn well that McNabb shouldn't be in any type of sentence with Dan Marino, cuz not winning a Super Bowl is the ONLY thing they have in common...and what does it matter that we won our 1st Super Bowl with Spags as our coordinator?? Lol..Don't see where that fits in to any of this, he's a great defensive coordinator and if it was up to the team he would have never left...and about the numbers..Eli has had good numbers the last 3 seasons, with the exception of 11 of his int's being off of batted balls in 2010, but that's neither here nor there....Just like you said championships aren't won by individuals, neither were those 9 games McNabb won in the playoffs...Goes both ways..
vageneral08
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rapmastermind;4356674 said:vageneral08;4356085 said:in 09? the eagles lost in the first playoff game
Mcnabb Eagles played Arizona in the NFC Title game in Jan of 2009. During Jan 2010 they lost to the Cowboys in the 1st round which by the way was the 1st time Mcnabb ever lost in the 1st round. When Mcnabb makes it to the playoffs he makes it to the 2nd round or better. But that proves the point even futher he was good enough to have his team in the Playoffs just 2 short years ago but because he went to 2 horrible teams he can't play anymore? To lead your team to 5 NFC Title games means Mcnabb had his team in the Final 4 of the NFL and Final 2 of his conference almost half of his career, that can't be overlooked.
the way you typed it earlier seems like you were talking bout the 2009-10 postseason but I got you
