Official 2014 NBA Draft Thread (the race to the bottom)

[WhoisDonG???]

What people is forgetting this year Duke has no real inside presence so Parker is playing out of position. But you see the handles the vision and offensive versatility when he gets a chance to showcase it. He is more athletic then people give him credit for as well as quick. If Luol Deng can guard 3's in the League Parker can to. Deng is slow as they come when u talking a bout natural fluid motion.

 

[t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088]

Lol @ people saying Wiggins can be a bust but now embed is the #1. He's a more high risk/high reward player than Wiggins!

 

[#1hiphopjunki3]

^^^ Jabari Parker is a 3 from skill set to handles, not even a debate. Hes playing the 4 b/c he can. Kevin Durant played the 4 at UT. Defensively who gives af lol really. Half the league cant play man defense. Hes good enough on D

When i say advanced skill set i mean primarily 1 on 1, get buckets, triple threat type players.Like durant at his age, like beasley, like melo, like james harden. All them dudes stuck out from day 1 b/c in this day n age that those type of scorers are rare. Those dudes u listed r NOT what im talkin about

So none of the guys I mentioned played the 3/4 while playing NCAA ball? None of them could get 1on1 buckets against damn near anybody at the collegian level in a myriad of ways? None of them were triple threat types of players when they were in school?

I agree only Beasley dominated his freshman year outta all the people I listed but the fact remains there are always guys who are great in school but the skills don't translate to the pros.

I do think Jabari is nice and the best freshman in the nation right now though and I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be a good pro.

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

Updated player comparisons

Joel Embid - Hakeem Olajuwon/Andrew Bynum

Jabari Parker - Carmelo Anthony

Andrew Wiggins - James Worthy/Rudy Gay

Julius Randle - athletic Zach Randolph

Marcus Smart - Dwyane Wade

Aaron Gordon - Shawn Marion/Kenneth Farid

Noah Vonleh - Chris Bosh

Zach Lavine - RM Jr Smith

Dante Exum - Penny Hardaway

Tyler Ennis - poor mans Steve Nash

 

[MarcusGarvey]

If it wasnt for Carmelo Anthony's bad rap as a one dimensional/chucker, Parker would have people goin nuts. They're so alike.

Gotta compare guys to their age bracket, and at age 18 he's more orfensively polished than about anyone age 18-22. Imo worst case he's Melo, just a pure scorer. Melo is a HOFer!

Best case for Jabari is Grant Hill pre-injury. W/ less playmaking more scoring

Worst case a guy that's stop top 10 in PER this year, 4th last year. Why is being compared to Melo a bad thing? If it ain't Lebron or Durant it ain't good? Ok......

 

[#1hiphopjunki3]

Some good NCAA games on primetime to check out a lot of the NBA prospects.

Looking forward to seeing how Embiid plays against Baylor's front court. Ike Austin for Baylor is looked at as an NBA prospect and so is the Jefferson kid.

 

[TheBossman]

Crazy, the college games are Better than the nba games this season. .

 

[Billy_Poncho]

If we gonna be honest with ourselves, at this point I can't say for sure who's going to be the best player at the end of their rookie contract (4years). Drafting ain't a science - some guys develop late, not at all, or not as much as you'd think.

My top 5

1. Embiid

2. Parker

3. Wiggins

4. Randle

5. Smart

I'd put Exum above Smart

 

[S2J]

Man when I watch Embiid play it seems like everything he does is a fluke. Lol. Like ok that was a good play, but he can't do it again. Idk, just don't seem like he has a sustained skill set. I wouldn't take him overall #1 like what I'm starting to hear. I could be wrong.

Finally...amid his lovefest for Embiid, somebody else seesit.

@ Embiid fans, what is his reasonable best case scenario? Serge Ibaka? Nene? I dont get it.

Someone please answer. I just saw this man compared to Hakeem Olajuwon.

Not shyt like a healthy Greg Oden, or Ibaka, or Okafor...no, his compariaon is to one of the best big men ever.

Someone please explain this Embiid thing to me.

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

Man when I watch Embiid play it seems like everything he does is a fluke. Lol. Like ok that was a good play, but he can't do it again. Idk, just don't seem like he has a sustained skill set. I wouldn't take him overall #1 like what I'm starting to hear. I could be wrong.

Finally...amid his lovefest for Embiid, somebody else seesit.

@ Embiid fans, what is his reasonable best case scenario? Serge Ibaka? Nene? I dont get it.

Someone please answer. I just saw this man compared to Hakeem Olajuwon.

Not shyt like a healthy Greg Oden, or Ibaka, or Okafor...no, his compariaon is to one of the best big men ever.

Someone please explain this Embiid thing to me.

Embid is a better offensive player right now then ibaka is or will probably ever be and if oden was healthy he could have potentially been an all time great. Simply put Embid has the perfect blend of skills and measurements of a prototypical center. He has post moves for days.. solid outside jumper.. Protects the rim at an elite level and he's getting better by the day. He needs to do a better job on the glass and get a little stronger but even then he's 250 with a solid frame. The comparisons to the dream are spot on if you ask me.. Does that mean he's gonna be as good as Hakeem? Only time will tell but let's not forget Hakeem was a junior when he got drafted so his game was obviously polished when he hit the pros. Another year would be great for him but seriously doubt he stays.

 

[S2J]

Bruh, thats layin it on THICK.

Post moves for days with 11ppg.

Hyperbole.

 

[Billy_Poncho]

Man when I watch Embiid play it seems like everything he does is a fluke. Lol. Like ok that was a good play, but he can't do it again. Idk, just don't seem like he has a sustained skill set. I wouldn't take him overall #1 like what I'm starting to hear. I could be wrong.

Finally...amid his lovefest for Embiid, somebody else seesit.

@ Embiid fans, what is his reasonable best case scenario? Serge Ibaka? Nene? I dont get it.

Someone please answer. I just saw this man compared to Hakeem Olajuwon.

Not shyt like a healthy Greg Oden, or Ibaka, or Okafor...no, his compariaon is to one of the best big men ever.

Someone please explain this Embiid thing to me.

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

Bruh, thats layin it on THICK.

Post moves for days with 11ppg.

Hyperbole.

He only plays about 23 mins a game and its not like he's putting up hella shots ..plus i don't think anyone in college hoops sees more double teams than this dude. He can back you down or face up..passes well..he's the truth.

 

[TheBossman]

Man when I watch Embiid play it seems like everything he does is a fluke. Lol. Like ok that was a good play, but he can't do it again. Idk, just don't seem like he has a sustained skill set. I wouldn't take him overall #1 like what I'm starting to hear. I could be wrong.

Finally...amid his lovefest for Embiid, somebody else seesit.

@ Embiid fans, what is his reasonable best case scenario? Serge Ibaka? Nene? I dont get it.

Someone please answer. I just saw this man compared to Hakeem Olajuwon.

Not shyt like a healthy Greg Oden, or Ibaka, or Okafor...no, his compariaon is to one of the best big men ever.

Someone please explain this Embiid thing to me.

Embid is a better offensive player right now then ibaka is or will probably ever be and if oden was healthy he could have potentially been an all time great. Simply put Embid has the perfect blend of skills and measurements of a prototypical center. He has post moves for days.. solid outside jumper.. Protects the rim at an elite level and he's getting better by the day. He needs to do a better job on the glass and get a little stronger but even then he's 250 with a solid frame. The comparisons to the dream are spot on if you ask me.. Does that mean he's gonna be as good as Hakeem? Only time will tell but let's not forget Hakeem was a junior when he got drafted so his game was obviously polished when he hit the pros. Another year would be great for him but seriously doubt he stays.

Ok, Chad ford.

 

[WhoisDonG???]

Don't get me wrong Embid has great upside but if I was him I would stay one more year to work on everything. Dude just picked up the game like 2-3 years ago. He still needs strength. To me if he goes to the NBA now he will be wasted for 2-3 years before we see the what he can become.

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

Man when I watch Embiid play it seems like everything he does is a fluke. Lol. Like ok that was a good play, but he can't do it again. Idk, just don't seem like he has a sustained skill set. I wouldn't take him overall #1 like what I'm starting to hear. I could be wrong.

Finally...amid his lovefest for Embiid, somebody else seesit.

@ Embiid fans, what is his reasonable best case scenario? Serge Ibaka? Nene? I dont get it.

Someone please answer. I just saw this man compared to Hakeem Olajuwon.

Not shyt like a healthy Greg Oden, or Ibaka, or Okafor...no, his compariaon is to one of the best big men ever.

Someone please explain this Embiid thing to me.

Embid is a better offensive player right now then ibaka is or will probably ever be and if oden was healthy he could have potentially been an all time great. Simply put Embid has the perfect blend of skills and measurements of a prototypical center. He has post moves for days.. solid outside jumper.. Protects the rim at an elite level and he's getting better by the day. He needs to do a better job on the glass and get a little stronger but even then he's 250 with a solid frame. The comparisons to the dream are spot on if you ask me.. Does that mean he's gonna be as good as Hakeem? Only time will tell but let's not forget Hakeem was a junior when he got drafted so his game was obviously polished when he hit the pros. Another year would be great for him but seriously doubt he stays.

Ok, Chad ford.

Ill take that as a compliment

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

Man when I watch Embiid play it seems like everything he does is a fluke. Lol. Like ok that was a good play, but he can't do it again. Idk, just don't seem like he has a sustained skill set. I wouldn't take him overall #1 like what I'm starting to hear. I could be wrong.

Finally...amid his lovefest for Embiid, somebody else seesit.

@ Embiid fans, what is his reasonable best case scenario? Serge Ibaka? Nene? I dont get it.

Someone please answer. I just saw this man compared to Hakeem Olajuwon.

Not shyt like a healthy Greg Oden, or Ibaka, or Okafor...no, his compariaon is to one of the best big men ever.

Someone please explain this Embiid thing to me.

That was filthy

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

Executives around the NBA increasingly believe that ballyhooed draft prospect Jabari Parker will choose to stay an extra year at Duke rather than enter the NBA draft this June, according to Sam Smith of Bulls.com. Parker, who grew up in Chicago, is No. 3 on both the DraftExpress and ESPN Insider prospect rankings, and his absence from this year’s draft would deal a blow to teams banking on a top pick in what’s supposed to be one of the best classes in years.

The presence of Jahlil Okafor, a former AAU teammate of Parker’s who’ll enter Duke next season, is weighing heavily on Parker’s mind, the executives believe. Parker also places a high value on education and feels he owes it to Duke to contribute to a better season than the Blue Devils are having so far this year, Smith hears. Parker has also seen the benefits that staying in school has provided to NBA stars in the past.

Recruiting analyst Tom Konchalski told Adam Zagoria of SNY.tv in November, when Okafor revealed he would go to Duke, that he thought the decision might influence Parker to stay in college another year so they could play together. The idea seemed far-fetched at the time, but now it appears it could indeed come to fruition. Parker, a 6’8″ freshman forward, won’t have to make his call on this year’s draft until the spring, so there will be plenty of time for him to go back and forth.

Joel Embiid’s entry into the 2014 draft isn’t a certainty, according to a report by ESPN’s Dana O’Neil. The 7-foot center has been a consensus top-five pick all year, and recently rose to the number one overall spot on ESPN Insider Chad Ford’s Big Board [subscription only]. Despite performing at a high level and gaining momentum with scouts, the Cameroonian says he isn’t sure this will be his last season with Kansas.

“I don’t know if I feel like I’m ready for all of this,” Embiid is quoted as saying, acknowledging his inability to drive a car, eat well, and other elements that go along with the pro game. His hesitancy is not just based on life practicalities, either. He has studied other skilled big men that have thrived in the league, concluding: “All of the great big men went to college at least two or three years. I think it’s a big factor. I don’t know if it will always work, but I think it’s the best choice.”

Embiid is averaging 11 points, 7.6 rebounds, and 2.9 blocks in his freshman year. The report of his uncertainty comes on the heals of the news that NBA executives are increasingly expecting fellow top-5 projected prospect Jabari Parker to stay at Duke another year as well.

I hope both stay so all these teams tanking can take a mean L

 

[S2J]

Now thats finally 1 thing i can agree with. If Embiid stays a year that changes things.

I think the game has a generation of big men who have underachieved skill-wise b/c of 1 n done or straight to HS

Dwight

Blake

Blache

Drummond will probly platueu soon

Deandre Jordan-imagine him with any type of offense.

 

[S2J]

And yes, i know Blake spent 2 yrs in college lol