Official 2014 NBA Draft Thread (the race to the bottom)

[af.r.i.c.a.]

This draft isnt worth tanking for.Theres several good to solid players not one Great franchise player

Embiiid is the only player I see who can become that good eventually.Exum has a higher ceiling than wiggins imo

Because we can't pick apart Exum?

Not that I just think exum has more potential.He held his own at the nike hoop summit vs these same college players when he faced them last year.He's 6'6 can play sg or pg he has that penny hardaway ceiling

Wiggins outplayed almost all them niggas in the hoop summit. Dominated Randle and Parker in their match ups and he's proven he can get it done on the college level. Not to mention his team is playing better basketball then Parker's and Randles. Exum has a high ceiling but I think he has the highest chance of being bust because he's hasn't proved himself like the other guys who are dominating in college.

 

[Peezy_Jenkins]

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=10298785

i know niggas aint into clicking links but this pretty much breaks down Wiggins' season so far...

who is this woman in ur sig?

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

This draft isnt worth tanking for.Theres several good to solid players not one Great franchise player

Embiiid is the only player I see who can become that good eventually.Exum has a higher ceiling than wiggins imo

Because we can't pick apart Exum?

Not that I just think exum has more potential.He held his own at the nike hoop summit vs these same college players when he faced them last year.He's 6'6 can play sg or pg he has that penny hardaway ceiling

Wiggins outplayed almost all them niggas in the hoop summit. Dominated Randle and Parker in their match ups and he's proven he can get it done on the college level. Not to mention his team is playing better basketball then Parker's and Randles. Exum has a high sealing but I think he has the highest chance of being bust because he's hasn't proved himself like the other guys who are dominating in college.

Nah you're just on his dick his team is playing better basketball cuz of embiid today embiid had 13 points 11 rebounds and 8 blocks while wiggins was a complete Non factor with 3 points.Wiggins was hyped as this can't miss prospect and isnt even the best player on his team.Exum has potential to be a penny clone and he and embiid will be the best prospects out this draft to me If you don't agree cool

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

I like how everyone waits until wiggins has a bad game to shit on him.. Prisoners of the moment. I get it embid is the man but wiggins has been getting busy this year too. He's had his best games against his toughest opponents and that speaks volumes to me. He came out flat today sure but he's coming off of a game where he almost went 20 20.

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

Just gotta wait it out. Like I said I think his game is more suited for the pros. Exum has been dominating sub par talent in Australia. He could go 1-7 based on his individual work outs before the draft

 

[Tommy bilfiger]

Lol @ wait til he has a bad game.This was Last week homeboy take the cape off his handles suspect as fucc,he has a suspect jumper he is just athletic he never warranted the hype no need to catch feelings cuz others aint on his dick like you

 

[MarcusGarvey]

Don't get me wrong I do like Exum but if he was at Indiana , like most freshmen he'd be up and down. even Bari had some tough outings in the last few.

Last game dude had 17 and 19, and if he didn't miss one or two makeable layups it'd be almost 20 and 19. I wanna see how me rebounds from this Monday v Baylor. In the end I look at the whole season and on my draft board he's 3rd right now. (Although I do worry about Jabari's weight)

 

[toheeb27]

How is Aaron Gordon doing, especially offensively? Read he is the best freshman in college DEFENSIVELY, based on "Defensive Win Share". But how is his offensive game? SF or PF?

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyS7Qnwxnfk

Lol @ wait til he has a bad game.This was Last week homeboy take the cape off his handles suspect as fucc,he has a suspect jumper he is just athletic he never warranted the hype no need to catch feelings cuz others aint on his dick like you

"I play devils advocate a lot with wiggins/parker because everyone has thrown wiggins into the overhyped high school player who lives off athleticism category and he's not that. Parker is the safer pick, melo with less strength/polish. Wiggins has the higher ceiling and it's harder for him to shine on that squad. I'm not saying I would be mad at getting parker #1, just remember they said a lot of the same thing about paul george that they say about wiggins and they're very similar"

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

How is Aaron Gordon doing, especially offensively? Read he is the best freshman in college DEFENSIVELY, based on "Defensive Win Share". But how is his offensive game? SF or PF?

He's a good defender. Can guard 3/4 both in college and probably the pros. Still raw offensively.. Gets most if his points around the rim but his offensive game shows promise. He can step out every now and the and hit an occasional 3 but he still has a lot of work to do. No one on the court out hustles him or out works him. His motor and athleticism are still his best attributes. I've seen some scouts/gms compare him to Marion and Kenneth Farid. As far as draft position at this point he's probably not a top 5 pick but he woukd likely go in lotto if he does declare.

 

[#1hiphopjunki3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyS7Qnwxnfk

Lol @ wait til he has a bad game.This was Last week homeboy take the cape off his handles suspect as fucc,he has a suspect jumper he is just athletic he never warranted the hype no need to catch feelings cuz others aint on his dick like you

"I play devils advocate a lot with wiggins/parker because everyone has thrown wiggins into the overhyped high school player who lives off athleticism category and he's not that. Parker is the safer pick, melo with less strength/polish. Wiggins has the higher ceiling and it's harder for him to shine on that squad. I'm not saying I would be mad at getting parker #1, just remember they said a lot of the same thing about paul george that they say about wiggins and they're very similar"

Wiggins and George aren't similar in the NCAA besides being great athlete's. George was a great jump shooter as a freshman and a solid one as a sophomore. Wiggins main knock on him is his shooting stroke. George also wasn't as highly touted coming out of High School like Wiggins is.

Wiggins is at a huge disadvantage in the sense that if he leaves for the NBA this year he is going to be looked at as the savior of a franchise and will not get the chance to slowly develop under the radar like George did. I kind of feel bad for the kid because the media built this kid up to be something he isn't and when he gets to the league and doesn't dominate he will be crucified.

Hopefully the kid will continue to get better because I hate the way the media shits on these kids after they fail to live up to a lot of unwanted hype and expectations heaped on their shoulders

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyS7Qnwxnfk

Lol @ wait til he has a bad game.This was Last week homeboy take the cape off his handles suspect as fucc,he has a suspect jumper he is just athletic he never warranted the hype no need to catch feelings cuz others aint on his dick like you

"I play devils advocate a lot with wiggins/parker because everyone has thrown wiggins into the overhyped high school player who lives off athleticism category and he's not that. Parker is the safer pick, melo with less strength/polish. Wiggins has the higher ceiling and it's harder for him to shine on that squad. I'm not saying I would be mad at getting parker #1, just remember they said a lot of the same thing about paul george that they say about wiggins and they're very similar"

Wiggins and George aren't similar in the NCAA besides being great athlete's. George was a great jump shooter as a freshman and a solid one as a sophomore. Wiggins main knock on him is his shooting stroke. George also wasn't as highly touted coming out of High School like Wiggins is.

Wiggins is at a huge disadvantage in the sense that if he leaves for the NBA this year he is going to be looked at as the savior of a franchise and will not get the chance to slowly develop under the radar like George did. I kind of feel bad for the kid because the media built this kid up to be something he isn't and when he gets to the league and doesn't dominate he will be crucified.

Hopefully the kid will continue to get better because I hate the way the media shits on these kids after they fail to live up to a lot of unwanted hype and expectations heaped on their shoulders

Yea I wasn't so much as quoting the Paul George comparison as I was the part about having playing devils advocate. I don't hold any bias towards wiggins at all I just call it like I see it. I don't think he's gonna be looked at as the savior of a franchise tho because the hype has died down a lot since the season started. Plus other guys who are balling sort of take the pressure and spot light off him which I'm sure he appreciates because he doesn't have a ego. There's really no telling how good this kid is gonna be but I'll tell you what if Embid is off the board when my team is picking I would be far from disappointed if wiggins was our pick.

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

 

[MarcusGarvey]

If we gonna be honest with ourselves, at this point I can't say for sure who's going to be the best player at the end of their rookie contract (4years). Drafting ain't a science - some guys develop late, not at all, or not as much as you'd think.

My top 5

1. Embiid

2. Parker

3. Wiggins

4. Randle

5. Smart

 

[S2J]

Man when I watch Embiid play it seems like everything he does is a fluke. Lol. Like ok that was a good play, but he can't do it again. Idk, just don't seem like he has a sustained skill set. I wouldn't take him overall #1 like what I'm starting to hear. I could be wrong.

Finally...amid his lovefest for Embiid, somebody else seesit.

@ Embiid fans, what is his reasonable best case scenario? Serge Ibaka? Nene? I dont get it.

 

[S2J]

If it wasnt for Carmelo Anthony's bad rap as a one dimensional/chucker, Parker would have people goin nuts. They're so alike.

Gotta compare guys to their age bracket, and at age 18 he's more orfensively polished than about anyone age 18-22. Imo worst case he's Melo, just a pure scorer. Melo is a HOFer!

Best case for Jabari is Grant Hill pre-injury. W/ less playmaking more scoring

 

[af.r.i.c.a.]

I don't know about Jabari being worst case melo. That's just not realistic. As much shit as people(including myself) give melo he's still one of the 10 best scores in league history and like you said a HOF. Jabari is worst case a more athletic Tobias Harris. Those 3 play such a similar game it's ridiculous. On top of that all 3 share the same strengths and weaknesses.. same height ..Have the same body nh.

 

[S2J]

Yea worst case bein Melo is a stretch but i just genuinely cant see an ofrensively advanced played like that not pan out

Beasley didnt but he was a tweaner

Tobias Harris is no Jabari. Not as fluid.

 

[#1hiphopjunki3]

Yea worst case bein Melo is a stretch but i just genuinely cant see an ofrensively advanced played like that not pan out

Beasley didnt but he was a tweaner

Tobias Harris is no Jabari. Not as fluid.

The biggest worry on Jabari is the fact that he is a tweener, due to not being athletic enough to be able to play the 3 in the NBA but not strong and tall enough to play the 4 in the NBA. He has the height and size of a 3 but he is most likely going to have a hard time guarding 3's in the NBA and even scoring like he does so easily in the NCAA due to his lack of quickness.

Duke actually plays Jabari a lot as there 4 or 5 in many sets this season.

Jabari is good but there are a lot of players who were offensively advance in the NCAA that didn't make the NBA or became just role players if they did make it. A few good to great NCAA wing/big man tweener's that come to mind are listed below

Michael Beasley

Jared Dudley

Derrick Williams

Royce White

Evan Turner

 

[S2J]

^^^ Jabari Parker is a 3 from skill set to handles, not even a debate. Hes playing the 4 b/c he can. Kevin Durant played the 4 at UT. Defensively who gives af lol really. Half the league cant play man defense. Hes good enough on D

When i say advanced skill set i mean primarily 1 on 1, get buckets, triple threat type players.Like durant at his age, like beasley, like melo, like james harden. All them dudes stuck out from day 1 b/c in this day n age that those type of scorers are rare. Those dudes u listed r NOT what im talkin about