Official 2014 NBA Draft Thread (the race to the bottom)

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A$AP_A$TON;7092423 said:
I like Tj Warren a lot. He would fit great on the Pistons, but we don't pick til 38. Smh, so my best hope is that Cleanthony Early falls to the 2nd round. Be a nice consolation pick.

Could always buy a pick, teams at the bottom of the first sell picks all the time. May be tougher this year with the depth though.
 
A$AP_A$TON;7092423 said:
I like Tj Warren a lot. He would fit great on the Pistons, but we don't pick til 38. Smh, so my best hope is that Cleanthony Early falls to the 2nd round. Be a nice consolation pick.

Sucks y'all missed out on the 8th pick but I like the Pistons roster.. I think the reason they missed the playoffs last year was the chemistry was off and the coaching was iffy. Smooth had a down year mainly because he was playing out of position and even then he put up solid numbers. Jennings is solid but he needs to up that shooting percentage.. shit is pathetic. SVG is going to mold that team around AD the same way he did with Dwight in Orlando. You just need more shooters. McDermott would have been perfect for Detroit.

 
BDB;7092608 said:
A$AP_A$TON;7092423 said:
I like Tj Warren a lot. He would fit great on the Pistons, but we don't pick til 38. Smh, so my best hope is that Cleanthony Early falls to the 2nd round. Be a nice consolation pick.

Could always buy a pick, teams at the bottom of the first sell picks all the time. May be tougher this year with the depth though.

I really wish they would, I been talking about OKC's two picks a lot. Maybe they would part with one, I got a feeling Detroit gonna stay pat tho.
 
af.r.i.c.a.;7092644 said:
A$AP_A$TON;7092423 said:
I like Tj Warren a lot. He would fit great on the Pistons, but we don't pick til 38. Smh, so my best hope is that Cleanthony Early falls to the 2nd round. Be a nice consolation pick.

Sucks y'all missed out on the 8th pick but I like the Pistons roster.. I think the reason they missed the playoffs last year was the chemistry was off and the coaching was iffy. Smooth had a down year mainly because he was playing out of position and even then he put up solid numbers. Jennings is solid but he needs to up that shooting percentage.. shit is pathetic. SVG is going to mold that team around AD the same way he did with Dwight in Orlando. You just need more shooters. McDermott would have been perfect for Detroit.

I think you right. You think Monroe coming back?
 
A$AP_A$TON;7092658 said:
af.r.i.c.a.;7092644 said:
A$AP_A$TON;7092423 said:
I like Tj Warren a lot. He would fit great on the Pistons, but we don't pick til 38. Smh, so my best hope is that Cleanthony Early falls to the 2nd round. Be a nice consolation pick.

Sucks y'all missed out on the 8th pick but I like the Pistons roster.. I think the reason they missed the playoffs last year was the chemistry was off and the coaching was iffy. Smooth had a down year mainly because he was playing out of position and even then he put up solid numbers. Jennings is solid but he needs to up that shooting percentage.. shit is pathetic. SVG is going to mold that team around AD the same way he did with Dwight in Orlando. You just need more shooters. McDermott would have been perfect for Detroit.

I think you right. You think Monroe coming back?

Probably not... They can't afford him and he doesn't fit with Smith and AD so he's the odd man out. They tried to move Smith and Jennings at the deadline last year but no one was interested. If they could move Josh this summer maybe they bring back Monroe but it's gonna be tough to make that move with his contract especially now that y'all don't have that pick to attach to him in a trade.

 
My Lottery Mock Draft trades are happening I see it

1. Cleveland - Joel Embiid: I think this is who Cav's will pick

2. Milwaukee - Jabari Parker: It is between him and Wiggins. This guy is a scorer from too many areas not to select

3. Phila - Andrew Wiggins: Yeah we back on the map with this pick

4. Orlando - Dante Exum: I think this is pretty much set here. Exum and his quickness are too much to pass up.

5. Utah - Noah Vonleh: Here is where things will get tricky Utah has too many bigs. Are they ready to give up on Kanter and select another center/PF. I don't see it. They just signed Favors to an extension. He plays both PF and center but I don't see them selecting another big. They will trade down most likely with Orlando for their 12th pick and Aaron Afflao. Fills two needs for Utah. Hayward is out of there and they can pick up SG later. So Vonleh may get selected but it will be by or for Orlando IMO

6. Boston - Julius Randle This pick I also think is getting traded. I just don't see Boston picking another PF when they have a clear need for center and SG having Bass, Sullinger and Olynk, Green tweener and Humphries all at the PF/C spot. I know Green plays SF too but still. I see this pick and a combo of players going to Minny for Kevin Love and a future 1st. If they can't work that out they are not reaching for center but might select Lavine

7. LAL - Marcus Smart Nash is old I see this happening

8. Sac - Aaron Gordon Sac don't want this pick but is clearly picking the best PF available him or Randle

9. Charlotte - Doug McDermott: Charlotte needs shooters badly. McDermott will get to fit in as a 6th man type to back up either the 3 and 4 as scoring off the bench

10. Phila - Zach Lavine: He fits Sixers system uptempo fast player that is a shooter but still raw. If he is not there Sixers are taking Stauskas before Harris despite being not a better defender.

11. Denver - Dario Saric Tweener that will get enough minutes. He has been talking he only wants to go to LAL or Boston

12. Orlando - Rodney Hood pick to Utah. Utah gets a starting worth replacement at SG and SF in the draft by trading down

13. Minny - Gary Harris

14. Phoenix - James Young
 
I think Utah could go all in on Parker and try and move up. They could offer the Bucks the 5th pick the 23rd pick and Ennis Kanter. That's a solid trade for both sides. Milwaukee would have to seriously consider that deal but it would be hard to pass on Parker.
 
af.r.i.c.a.;7093908 said:
I think Utah could go all in on Parker and try and move up. They could offer the Bucks the 5th pick the 23rd pick and Ennis Kanter. That's a solid trade for both sides. Milwaukee would have to seriously consider that deal but it would be hard to pass on Parker.

It will take more than that to sneak in an get Parker. I see the Mormon angle there but it will take more than that. Sanders just signed an extension dont see him getting moved Kanter is like a backup big on that squad. I am talking like two firsts and the second one top 5 protected. Bucks need scoring too badly to not select the safest go to player in the draft

 
I could my sixers moving up also. Utah, Boston, and Sacramento could trade picks. I could see them swapping their 10 th pick and Thad young to move up.
 
thagame;7094081 said:
af.r.i.c.a.;7093908 said:
I think Utah could go all in on Parker and try and move up. They could offer the Bucks the 5th pick the 23rd pick and Ennis Kanter. That's a solid trade for both sides. Milwaukee would have to seriously consider that deal but it would be hard to pass on Parker.

It will take more than that to sneak in an get Parker. I see the Mormon angle there but it will take more than that. Sanders just signed an extension dont see him getting moved Kanter is like a backup big on that squad. I am talking like two firsts and the second one top 5 protected. Bucks need scoring too badly to not select the safest go to player in the draft

That's plenty. I think Kanter has more value then you think. He's still very young and he has both size and skills. They could get either Exum or Smart with the 5th pick and still have 3 picks left in the draft including the 23rd the first pick in the 2nd round and another 2nd. Maybe Utah trows in Burks? Point is i think they could be a team that we see move up along with PHX and Philly who both have way too many picks. No way the sixers are bringing in 8 rookies lol and the suns have plenty of ammo with 4 firsts. As good as the Suns were last year they don't have a star on thier present roster. They need to find one either in this draft or in FA.

 
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TheBossman;7095209 said:
I could my sixers moving up also. Utah, Boston, and Sacramento could trade picks. I could see them swapping their 10 th pick and Thad young to move up.

Yup those three are more likely to trade. Sixers would have to take something back. Like Pf drawing a blank he was hurt last year. Sixers probably do this to secure Lavine

 
TheBossman;7095209 said:
I could my sixers moving up also. Utah, Boston, and Sacramento could trade picks. I could see them swapping their 10 th pick and Thad young to move up.

Would you trade the 10th pick and either MCW or Noel for Exum? Read a rumor that Philly is considering it.

 
af.r.i.c.a.;7095485 said:
TheBossman;7095209 said:
I could my sixers moving up also. Utah, Boston, and Sacramento could trade picks. I could see them swapping their 10 th pick and Thad young to move up.

Would you trade the 10th pick and either MCW or Noel for Exum? Read a rumor that Philly is considering it.

I wouldn't do it if I was Phila. Just collect assets, then decide.
 
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draf...ospects?ex_cid=InsiderTwitter_forddraftrumors

Once again, the Cleveland Cavaliers are on the clock with the No. 1 pick. And once again, no one really has a clue what the Cavs are going to do with it.

Last year, everyone -- journalists, NBA teams, even Anthony Bennett's agent -- had no idea who the Cavs were going to select No. 1 until Bennett's name was announced. There were some rumblings the day of the draft that Bennett might be the guy -- but nothing definitive.

That obviously creates a lot of uneasiness and unpredictability throughout the draft.

The Cavs are giving long looks to Joel Embiid, Andrew Wiggins and Jabari Parker.

Embiid is getting the first workout of the three. They'll be the only team to get a good look at his back and see him on the court. If the Cavs commit, his agent, Arn Tellem will shut him down and that will be the only workout he does.

But don't expect that to happen. A team source in Cleveland said it's unlikely the Cavs will commit to any player leading up to the draft.

"We have to keep our options open," the source said. "Once you commit, your hands are tied. The good thing about the No. 1 pick is that you have lots of options. Embiid is a great prospect and he might very well be the choice at No. 1. But until you see all three and, more importantly, until we understand the trade market, it just makes no sense to make any promises."

While Embiid fits a need and may have the best upside of anyone in the draft, there are several reasons the Cavs may not go that direction. Remember, last year they felt the same way about Nerlens Noel all year and eventually balked at taking him No. 1.

First, team doctors are going to have to get comfortable with his back. If there is any hint that it may require more treatment or need long-term correction, the chances of Embiid going No. 1 dwindle. The Cavs need a player who can play now, and the feeling is that Embiid, who already is the least experienced of the top prospects, can't afford to miss summer league and training camp. You saw what happened to Bennett last season -- they don't want to repeat that again this season.

Second, owner Dan Gilbert is pushing new Cavs GM David Griffin to make the playoffs this season. The Cavs' ability to do that will, in part, be connected to how much help they get from their pick this season. Embiid is going to have to make the case that he can help them now. I don't think that's out of the question, by the way. Most experts thought Embiid would take more than a year to be an impact player in Kansas. Instead, by February, he was oftentimes the best player on the floor for the Jayhawks.

We've already gone over the cases for Parker and Wiggins and won't do so here. Parker is the obvious choice if the team wants immediate impact and would definitely fit a need if the team is convinced Luol Deng won't be returning. Wiggins is a compromise. He's talented enough, especially on the defensive end, to make an immediate impact. But he still has as much upside as anyone in the draft.

But I think the Cavs' preferred route would to be a trade that thins out their roster and adds a young veteran who could immediately lift the Cavs' long-term chances. The Minnesota Timberwolves' Kevin Love has been the most often mentioned pickup. But the Cavs also have their eye on several other bigs, including the Chicago Bulls' Joakim Noah, the Portland Trail Blazers' LaMarcus Aldridge and the Atlanta Hawks' Al Horford.

The Cavs aren't the only team open to trading their lottery pick.

Multiple league sources say that there are a surprising number of top picks for "sale" this year.

"I thought getting a lottery pick via trade would be virtually impossible this year," one NBA GM told Insider. "It's not. There are a lot of teams in the lottery right now that would prefer a proven player. A lot of owners have lost their patience with the rebuilding process."

While picks No. 5-14 don't hold the same value as a top-4 pick in this draft (which explains why so many anonymous GMs are now suddenly praising the middle of the lottery and questioning whether there really is a top tier of four players) there still is a lot of talent at this point in the draft and a number of bad teams would love to get their hands on a second pick.Among the teams that would be open to trading their lottery pick? It's highly likely that the Milwaukee Bucks, Philadelphia 76ers, Orlando Magic and Utah Jazz are all holding onto their picks. However, after pick No. 5 things are much more fluid. Sources say that the Boston Celtics, Los Angeles Lakers, Sacramento Kings, Charlotte Hornets, Timberwolves and Phoenix Suns are all open to offers.

While the Celtics, Lakers, Kings, Hornets, Wolves and Suns aren't likely to get an All-Star for their picks, they should be able to score players or multiple assets that help their teams right now. Look for the Bucks, Hawks, Mavs, Blazers and Raptors to be especially busy trying to move up or acquire a second pick.
 
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af.r.i.c.a.;7095485 said:
TheBossman;7095209 said:
I could my sixers moving up also. Utah, Boston, and Sacramento could trade picks. I could see them swapping their 10 th pick and Thad young to move up.

Would you trade the 10th pick and either MCW or Noel for Exum? Read a rumor that Philly is considering it.

No. Hard to trade the roy an Unproven pick, especially from over seas.

thagame;7095423 said:
TheBossman;7095209 said:
I could my sixers moving up also. Utah, Boston, and Sacramento could trade picks. I could see them swapping their 10 th pick and Thad young to move up.

Yup those three are more likely to trade. Sixers would have to take something back. Like Pf drawing a blank he was hurt last year. Sixers probably do this to secure Lavine

Is Lavine the guy they want? I still want Randle, if they can move up to 6.
 
Magic scheduled a 2nd workout w/ Marcus Smart.

Julius Randle and Dante Exum as of now have no team workouts scheduled.
 

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