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zzombie;9513467 said:
The_Jackal;9513308 said:
zzombie;9513209 said:
The_Jackal;9513186 said:
zzombie;9513065 said:
They need to abolish the minimum wage and let employers and employees decided how much they get paid.

So owners can fuck the workers whichever way they please? No thank you.

So that employers can hire people as they wish according to their own plans. And so that potential employees can negotiate their pay themselves. if you don't want to work for what I am willing to pay then seek employment elsewhere.

Government should not be forcing private businesses to pay what they don't want to it's nothing more than government intrusion.

That already is happening though. We don't love in some backward communist shit society where anybody is forced to work. Employees and businesses respectfully can negotiate a pay grade.

Big government is absolutely essential to prevent wide spread corruption and the constant underpayment over workers. We already seen what happens when we expect corporations to act responsible during the gilded era.

The only thing the government should be doing is preventing monopolies. What moral justification is there for the government to force me to pay someone a higher pay than I want too??

The moral justification that businesses would ultimately abuse this position of power.

zzombie;9513516 said:
Shizlansky;9513511 said:
zzombie;9513510 said:
Shizlansky;9513493 said:
zzombie;9513467 said:
The_Jackal;9513308 said:
zzombie;9513209 said:
The_Jackal;9513186 said:
zzombie;9513065 said:
They need to abolish the minimum wage and let employers and employees decided how much they get paid.

So owners can fuck the workers whichever way they please? No thank you.

So that employers can hire people as they wish according to their own plans. And so that potential employees can negotiate their pay themselves. if you don't want to work for what I am willing to pay then seek employment elsewhere.

Government should not be forcing private businesses to pay what they don't want to it's nothing more than government intrusion.

That already is happening though. We don't love in some backward communist shit society where anybody is forced to work. Employees and businesses respectfully can negotiate a pay grade.

Big government is absolutely essential to prevent wide spread corruption and the constant underpayment over workers. We already seen what happens when we expect corporations to act responsible during the gilded era.

The only thing the government should be doing is preventing monopolies. What moral justification is there for the government to force me to pay someone a higher pay than I want too??

Business complain about giving crumbs now. You think if it wasn't a minimum wage they wouldn't give more?

Housing market would crash and we would have have to live like sardines just to have shelter.

Government interference in the housing market caused a bubble that led to a crash. Businesses will always complain because they want to make the greatest profit imaginable it's in their nature just to look for ways to cut expenses however as long as there are no monopolies

If big business was left completely alone they would hire ppl at pennies because somebody will HAVE to take the job just to eat and all hell will break loose because it will cause a bigger divide between the haves and haves not

They would try to hire people for pennies. However like I said if there is enough competition people won't work for businesses that pay too low , they go someplace else and so the original place would have to increase what it desired to pay people.

Come on you're an intelligent man you know better then that. What most likely would happen is business would band together and create there own mind wage for an industry, ensuring that workers across board got underpaid.
 
soul rattler;9513842 said:
zzombie;9513516 said:
Shizlansky;9513511 said:
zzombie;9513510 said:
Shizlansky;9513493 said:
zzombie;9513467 said:
The_Jackal;9513308 said:
zzombie;9513209 said:
The_Jackal;9513186 said:
zzombie;9513065 said:
They need to abolish the minimum wage and let employers and employees decided how much they get paid.

So owners can fuck the workers whichever way they please? No thank you.

So that employers can hire people as they wish according to their own plans. And so that potential employees can negotiate their pay themselves. if you don't want to work for what I am willing to pay then seek employment elsewhere.

Government should not be forcing private businesses to pay what they don't want to it's nothing more than government intrusion.

That already is happening though. We don't love in some backward communist shit society where anybody is forced to work. Employees and businesses respectfully can negotiate a pay grade.

Big government is absolutely essential to prevent wide spread corruption and the constant underpayment over workers. We already seen what happens when we expect corporations to act responsible during the gilded era.

The only thing the government should be doing is preventing monopolies. What moral justification is there for the government to force me to pay someone a higher pay than I want too??

Business complain about giving crumbs now. You think if it wasn't a minimum wage they wouldn't give more?

Housing market would crash and we would have have to live like sardines just to have shelter.

Government interference in the housing market caused a bubble that led to a crash. Businesses will always complain because they want to make the greatest profit imaginable it's in their nature just to look for ways to cut expenses however as long as there are no monopolies

If big business was left completely alone they would hire ppl at pennies because somebody will HAVE to take the job just to eat and all hell will break loose because it will cause a bigger divide between the haves and haves not

They would try to hire people for pennies. However like I said if there is enough competition people won't work for businesses that pay too low , they go someplace else and so the original place would have to increase what it desired to pay people.

Hey genius, it's called job outsourcing and businesses are more likely to do that than the average individual is to simply "find another job". What you won't do, a non-citizen of the United States will for a lower pay.

Businesses cannot outsource every kind of job for example you cannot out source burger flipping and people who are not legal shouldn't be hired.
 
The_Jackal;9513870 said:
zzombie;9513467 said:
The_Jackal;9513308 said:
zzombie;9513209 said:
The_Jackal;9513186 said:
zzombie;9513065 said:
They need to abolish the minimum wage and let employers and employees decided how much they get paid.

So owners can fuck the workers whichever way they please? No thank you.

So that employers can hire people as they wish according to their own plans. And so that potential employees can negotiate their pay themselves. if you don't want to work for what I am willing to pay then seek employment elsewhere.

Government should not be forcing private businesses to pay what they don't want to it's nothing more than government intrusion.

That already is happening though. We don't love in some backward communist shit society where anybody is forced to work. Employees and businesses respectfully can negotiate a pay grade.

Big government is absolutely essential to prevent wide spread corruption and the constant underpayment over workers. We already seen what happens when we expect corporations to act responsible during the gilded era.

The only thing the government should be doing is preventing monopolies. What moral justification is there for the government to force me to pay someone a higher pay than I want too??

The moral justification that businesses would ultimately abuse this position of power.

zzombie;9513516 said:
Shizlansky;9513511 said:
zzombie;9513510 said:
Shizlansky;9513493 said:
zzombie;9513467 said:
The_Jackal;9513308 said:
zzombie;9513209 said:
The_Jackal;9513186 said:
zzombie;9513065 said:
They need to abolish the minimum wage and let employers and employees decided how much they get paid.

So owners can fuck the workers whichever way they please? No thank you.

So that employers can hire people as they wish according to their own plans. And so that potential employees can negotiate their pay themselves. if you don't want to work for what I am willing to pay then seek employment elsewhere.

Government should not be forcing private businesses to pay what they don't want to it's nothing more than government intrusion.

That already is happening though. We don't love in some backward communist shit society where anybody is forced to work. Employees and businesses respectfully can negotiate a pay grade.

Big government is absolutely essential to prevent wide spread corruption and the constant underpayment over workers. We already seen what happens when we expect corporations to act responsible during the gilded era.

The only thing the government should be doing is preventing monopolies. What moral justification is there for the government to force me to pay someone a higher pay than I want too??

Business complain about giving crumbs now. You think if it wasn't a minimum wage they wouldn't give more?

Housing market would crash and we would have have to live like sardines just to have shelter.

Government interference in the housing market caused a bubble that led to a crash. Businesses will always complain because they want to make the greatest profit imaginable it's in their nature just to look for ways to cut expenses however as long as there are no monopolies

If big business was left completely alone they would hire ppl at pennies because somebody will HAVE to take the job just to eat and all hell will break loose because it will cause a bigger divide between the haves and haves not

They would try to hire people for pennies. However like I said if there is enough competition people won't work for businesses that pay too low , they go someplace else and so the original place would have to increase what it desired to pay people.

Come on you're an intelligent man you know better then that. What most likely would happen is business would band together and create there own mind wage for an industry, ensuring that workers across board got underpaid.

^^^ yes that might happen but it's the job of government to make sure there is no collusion.
 
zzombie;9513879 said:
soul rattler;9513842 said:
zzombie;9513516 said:
Shizlansky;9513511 said:
zzombie;9513510 said:
Shizlansky;9513493 said:
zzombie;9513467 said:
The_Jackal;9513308 said:
zzombie;9513209 said:
The_Jackal;9513186 said:
zzombie;9513065 said:
They need to abolish the minimum wage and let employers and employees decided how much they get paid.

So owners can fuck the workers whichever way they please? No thank you.

So that employers can hire people as they wish according to their own plans. And so that potential employees can negotiate their pay themselves. if you don't want to work for what I am willing to pay then seek employment elsewhere.

Government should not be forcing private businesses to pay what they don't want to it's nothing more than government intrusion.

That already is happening though. We don't love in some backward communist shit society where anybody is forced to work. Employees and businesses respectfully can negotiate a pay grade.

Big government is absolutely essential to prevent wide spread corruption and the constant underpayment over workers. We already seen what happens when we expect corporations to act responsible during the gilded era.

The only thing the government should be doing is preventing monopolies. What moral justification is there for the government to force me to pay someone a higher pay than I want too??

Business complain about giving crumbs now. You think if it wasn't a minimum wage they wouldn't give more?

Housing market would crash and we would have have to live like sardines just to have shelter.

Government interference in the housing market caused a bubble that led to a crash. Businesses will always complain because they want to make the greatest profit imaginable it's in their nature just to look for ways to cut expenses however as long as there are no monopolies

If big business was left completely alone they would hire ppl at pennies because somebody will HAVE to take the job just to eat and all hell will break loose because it will cause a bigger divide between the haves and haves not

They would try to hire people for pennies. However like I said if there is enough competition people won't work for businesses that pay too low , they go someplace else and so the original place would have to increase what it desired to pay people.

Hey genius, it's called job outsourcing and businesses are more likely to do that than the average individual is to simply "find another job". What you won't do, a non-citizen of the United States will for a lower pay.

Businesses cannot outsource every kind of job for example you cannot out source burger flipping and people who are not legal shouldn't be hired.

Black Americans should not want illegal immigrants to have a path to citizenship.

It depresses black wages, especially the working poor
 
zzombie;9513881 said:
The_Jackal;9513870 said:
zzombie;9513467 said:
The_Jackal;9513308 said:
zzombie;9513209 said:
The_Jackal;9513186 said:
zzombie;9513065 said:
They need to abolish the minimum wage and let employers and employees decided how much they get paid.

So owners can fuck the workers whichever way they please? No thank you.

So that employers can hire people as they wish according to their own plans. And so that potential employees can negotiate their pay themselves. if you don't want to work for what I am willing to pay then seek employment elsewhere.

Government should not be forcing private businesses to pay what they don't want to it's nothing more than government intrusion.

That already is happening though. We don't love in some backward communist shit society where anybody is forced to work. Employees and businesses respectfully can negotiate a pay grade.

Big government is absolutely essential to prevent wide spread corruption and the constant underpayment over workers. We already seen what happens when we expect corporations to act responsible during the gilded era.

The only thing the government should be doing is preventing monopolies. What moral justification is there for the government to force me to pay someone a higher pay than I want too??

The moral justification that businesses would ultimately abuse this position of power.

zzombie;9513516 said:
Shizlansky;9513511 said:
zzombie;9513510 said:
Shizlansky;9513493 said:
zzombie;9513467 said:
The_Jackal;9513308 said:
zzombie;9513209 said:
The_Jackal;9513186 said:
zzombie;9513065 said:
They need to abolish the minimum wage and let employers and employees decided how much they get paid.

So owners can fuck the workers whichever way they please? No thank you.

So that employers can hire people as they wish according to their own plans. And so that potential employees can negotiate their pay themselves. if you don't want to work for what I am willing to pay then seek employment elsewhere.

Government should not be forcing private businesses to pay what they don't want to it's nothing more than government intrusion.

That already is happening though. We don't love in some backward communist shit society where anybody is forced to work. Employees and businesses respectfully can negotiate a pay grade.

Big government is absolutely essential to prevent wide spread corruption and the constant underpayment over workers. We already seen what happens when we expect corporations to act responsible during the gilded era.

The only thing the government should be doing is preventing monopolies. What moral justification is there for the government to force me to pay someone a higher pay than I want too??

Business complain about giving crumbs now. You think if it wasn't a minimum wage they wouldn't give more?

Housing market would crash and we would have have to live like sardines just to have shelter.

Government interference in the housing market caused a bubble that led to a crash. Businesses will always complain because they want to make the greatest profit imaginable it's in their nature just to look for ways to cut expenses however as long as there are no monopolies

If big business was left completely alone they would hire ppl at pennies because somebody will HAVE to take the job just to eat and all hell will break loose because it will cause a bigger divide between the haves and haves not

They would try to hire people for pennies. However like I said if there is enough competition people won't work for businesses that pay too low , they go someplace else and so the original place would have to increase what it desired to pay people.

Come on you're an intelligent man you know better then that. What most likely would happen is business would band together and create there own mind wage for an industry, ensuring that workers across board got underpaid.

^^^ yes that might happen but it's the job of government to make sure there is no collusion.

So you don't want government to mandate a minimum wage, but you want government to make sure businesses don't make industry wide maximum wages.

The fuck?
 
soul rattler;9514108 said:
zzombie;9513881 said:
The_Jackal;9513870 said:
zzombie;9513467 said:
The_Jackal;9513308 said:
zzombie;9513209 said:
The_Jackal;9513186 said:
zzombie;9513065 said:
They need to abolish the minimum wage and let employers and employees decided how much they get paid.

So owners can fuck the workers whichever way they please? No thank you.

So that employers can hire people as they wish according to their own plans. And so that potential employees can negotiate their pay themselves. if you don't want to work for what I am willing to pay then seek employment elsewhere.

Government should not be forcing private businesses to pay what they don't want to it's nothing more than government intrusion.

That already is happening though. We don't love in some backward communist shit society where anybody is forced to work. Employees and businesses respectfully can negotiate a pay grade.

Big government is absolutely essential to prevent wide spread corruption and the constant underpayment over workers. We already seen what happens when we expect corporations to act responsible during the gilded era.

The only thing the government should be doing is preventing monopolies. What moral justification is there for the government to force me to pay someone a higher pay than I want too??

The moral justification that businesses would ultimately abuse this position of power.

zzombie;9513516 said:
Shizlansky;9513511 said:
zzombie;9513510 said:
Shizlansky;9513493 said:
zzombie;9513467 said:
The_Jackal;9513308 said:
zzombie;9513209 said:
The_Jackal;9513186 said:
zzombie;9513065 said:
They need to abolish the minimum wage and let employers and employees decided how much they get paid.

So owners can fuck the workers whichever way they please? No thank you.

So that employers can hire people as they wish according to their own plans. And so that potential employees can negotiate their pay themselves. if you don't want to work for what I am willing to pay then seek employment elsewhere.

Government should not be forcing private businesses to pay what they don't want to it's nothing more than government intrusion.

That already is happening though. We don't love in some backward communist shit society where anybody is forced to work. Employees and businesses respectfully can negotiate a pay grade.

Big government is absolutely essential to prevent wide spread corruption and the constant underpayment over workers. We already seen what happens when we expect corporations to act responsible during the gilded era.

The only thing the government should be doing is preventing monopolies. What moral justification is there for the government to force me to pay someone a higher pay than I want too??

Business complain about giving crumbs now. You think if it wasn't a minimum wage they wouldn't give more?

Housing market would crash and we would have have to live like sardines just to have shelter.

Government interference in the housing market caused a bubble that led to a crash. Businesses will always complain because they want to make the greatest profit imaginable it's in their nature just to look for ways to cut expenses however as long as there are no monopolies

If big business was left completely alone they would hire ppl at pennies because somebody will HAVE to take the job just to eat and all hell will break loose because it will cause a bigger divide between the haves and haves not

They would try to hire people for pennies. However like I said if there is enough competition people won't work for businesses that pay too low , they go someplace else and so the original place would have to increase what it desired to pay people.

Come on you're an intelligent man you know better then that. What most likely would happen is business would band together and create there own mind wage for an industry, ensuring that workers across board got underpaid.

^^^ yes that might happen but it's the job of government to make sure there is no collusion.

So you don't want government to mandate a minimum wage, but you want government to make sure businesses don't make industry wide maximum wages.

The fuck?

Yes in am against government intrusion in the form of wage floors or ceilings because it goes beyond the predescribed role and responsibilities of government

However government have a role to play in protecting the public at large
 
zzombie;9513881 said:
The_Jackal;9513870 said:
zzombie;9513467 said:
The_Jackal;9513308 said:
zzombie;9513209 said:
The_Jackal;9513186 said:
zzombie;9513065 said:
They need to abolish the minimum wage and let employers and employees decided how much they get paid.

So owners can fuck the workers whichever way they please? No thank you.

So that employers can hire people as they wish according to their own plans. And so that potential employees can negotiate their pay themselves. if you don't want to work for what I am willing to pay then seek employment elsewhere.

Government should not be forcing private businesses to pay what they don't want to it's nothing more than government intrusion.

That already is happening though. We don't love in some backward communist shit society where anybody is forced to work. Employees and businesses respectfully can negotiate a pay grade.

Big government is absolutely essential to prevent wide spread corruption and the constant underpayment over workers. We already seen what happens when we expect corporations to act responsible during the gilded era.

The only thing the government should be doing is preventing monopolies. What moral justification is there for the government to force me to pay someone a higher pay than I want too??

The moral justification that businesses would ultimately abuse this position of power.

zzombie;9513516 said:
Shizlansky;9513511 said:
zzombie;9513510 said:
Shizlansky;9513493 said:
zzombie;9513467 said:
The_Jackal;9513308 said:
zzombie;9513209 said:
The_Jackal;9513186 said:
zzombie;9513065 said:
They need to abolish the minimum wage and let employers and employees decided how much they get paid.

So owners can fuck the workers whichever way they please? No thank you.

So that employers can hire people as they wish according to their own plans. And so that potential employees can negotiate their pay themselves. if you don't want to work for what I am willing to pay then seek employment elsewhere.

Government should not be forcing private businesses to pay what they don't want to it's nothing more than government intrusion.

That already is happening though. We don't love in some backward communist shit society where anybody is forced to work. Employees and businesses respectfully can negotiate a pay grade.

Big government is absolutely essential to prevent wide spread corruption and the constant underpayment over workers. We already seen what happens when we expect corporations to act responsible during the gilded era.

The only thing the government should be doing is preventing monopolies. What moral justification is there for the government to force me to pay someone a higher pay than I want too??

Business complain about giving crumbs now. You think if it wasn't a minimum wage they wouldn't give more?

Housing market would crash and we would have have to live like sardines just to have shelter.

Government interference in the housing market caused a bubble that led to a crash. Businesses will always complain because they want to make the greatest profit imaginable it's in their nature just to look for ways to cut expenses however as long as there are no monopolies

If big business was left completely alone they would hire ppl at pennies because somebody will HAVE to take the job just to eat and all hell will break loose because it will cause a bigger divide between the haves and haves not

They would try to hire people for pennies. However like I said if there is enough competition people won't work for businesses that pay too low , they go someplace else and so the original place would have to increase what it desired to pay people.

Come on you're an intelligent man you know better then that. What most likely would happen is business would band together and create there own mind wage for an industry, ensuring that workers across board got underpaid.

^^^ yes that might happen but it's the job of government to make sure there is no collusion.

Yes and the easiest and best way to stop that such collision is by setting a wage ceiling.

 
The_Jackal;9514330 said:
zzombie;9513881 said:
The_Jackal;9513870 said:
zzombie;9513467 said:
The_Jackal;9513308 said:
zzombie;9513209 said:
The_Jackal;9513186 said:
zzombie;9513065 said:
They need to abolish the minimum wage and let employers and employees decided how much they get paid.

So owners can fuck the workers whichever way they please? No thank you.

So that employers can hire people as they wish according to their own plans. And so that potential employees can negotiate their pay themselves. if you don't want to work for what I am willing to pay then seek employment elsewhere.

Government should not be forcing private businesses to pay what they don't want to it's nothing more than government intrusion.

That already is happening though. We don't love in some backward communist shit society where anybody is forced to work. Employees and businesses respectfully can negotiate a pay grade.

Big government is absolutely essential to prevent wide spread corruption and the constant underpayment over workers. We already seen what happens when we expect corporations to act responsible during the gilded era.

The only thing the government should be doing is preventing monopolies. What moral justification is there for the government to force me to pay someone a higher pay than I want too??

The moral justification that businesses would ultimately abuse this position of power.

zzombie;9513516 said:
Shizlansky;9513511 said:
zzombie;9513510 said:
Shizlansky;9513493 said:
zzombie;9513467 said:
The_Jackal;9513308 said:
zzombie;9513209 said:
The_Jackal;9513186 said:
zzombie;9513065 said:
They need to abolish the minimum wage and let employers and employees decided how much they get paid.

So owners can fuck the workers whichever way they please? No thank you.

So that employers can hire people as they wish according to their own plans. And so that potential employees can negotiate their pay themselves. if you don't want to work for what I am willing to pay then seek employment elsewhere.

Government should not be forcing private businesses to pay what they don't want to it's nothing more than government intrusion.

That already is happening though. We don't love in some backward communist shit society where anybody is forced to work. Employees and businesses respectfully can negotiate a pay grade.

Big government is absolutely essential to prevent wide spread corruption and the constant underpayment over workers. We already seen what happens when we expect corporations to act responsible during the gilded era.

The only thing the government should be doing is preventing monopolies. What moral justification is there for the government to force me to pay someone a higher pay than I want too??

Business complain about giving crumbs now. You think if it wasn't a minimum wage they wouldn't give more?

Housing market would crash and we would have have to live like sardines just to have shelter.

Government interference in the housing market caused a bubble that led to a crash. Businesses will always complain because they want to make the greatest profit imaginable it's in their nature just to look for ways to cut expenses however as long as there are no monopolies

If big business was left completely alone they would hire ppl at pennies because somebody will HAVE to take the job just to eat and all hell will break loose because it will cause a bigger divide between the haves and haves not

They would try to hire people for pennies. However like I said if there is enough competition people won't work for businesses that pay too low , they go someplace else and so the original place would have to increase what it desired to pay people.

Come on you're an intelligent man you know better then that. What most likely would happen is business would band together and create there own mind wage for an industry, ensuring that workers across board got underpaid.

^^^ yes that might happen but it's the job of government to make sure there is no collusion.

Yes and the easiest and best way to stop that such collision is by setting a wage ceiling.

Easiest???? Maybe but the best??? No because it creates a government mandated law that is a barrier to employment and business.
 
I had a corporate bigwig tell me at a conference once that, his company has an insidious policy when it comes to hiring interns.

The model they use is "22, & 22."

Get a intern around 22 years old, and pay them twenty-two grand a year.

Chew'em up, spit them out like bubble gum.

Company remains in the black, hitting all their quarterly targets.

Cheap labor is American as Apple pie.

Why you think BOTH parties don't do shit about illegal immigration?

Democrats want the future votes, and Republicans want the cheap labor.
 
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Lmao @zzombie is right, ON PAPER, what he is saying is true, but bruh we have literally seen before on a couple of occasions what happens if you don't have some government interference in business bruh..... it was NEVER a good thing.
 

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