Muslim Gay Bar to open next to Ground Zero Mosque

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supaman4321;1101597 said:
What hypocrisy the true believers don't advocate the shedding of innocent blood so that's why we shouldn't have a problem in establishing a mosque near "ground zero" but the true believers don't advocate homosexuality so where is the parity in building a gar bar near the mosque?

and people wonder why we call America a terrorist?

Wa alaikum

I don't give a shit what the "true believers" advocate. There's no hypocrisy in saying that people can choose to use their private property for a mosque and they can also use it for a gay bar.
 
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It seems like a cheap setup fora problem-reaction-solution play to me. I mean the gay bar is a business first and foremost. I dont think the gay Muslim demographic is very large. If it is I dont think those who identify themselves as Muslims AND homosexuals simultaneously would want to have a gay party near a mosque. This is so bizarre and repugnant it seems made up. Are there Christian gay bars right by churches? Only in Amerikkka......
 
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And Step;1098485 said:
False. Scientology morphed out of the system of Dianetics, which began as an ideology that human beings have been exposed to painful and traumatic events that thwarts and hinders their growth and development.
wait, i thought it began as an ideology that everyone should give all their cash to L. Ron Hubbard because of his awesomeness?
 
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judahxulu;1103177 said:
It seems like a cheap setup fora problem-reaction-solution play to me. I mean the gay bar is a business first and foremost. I dont think the gay Muslim demographic is very large. If it is I dont think those who identify themselves as Muslims AND homosexuals simultaneously would want to have a gay party near a mosque. This is so bizarre and repugnant it seems made up. Are there Christian gay bars right by churches? Only in Amerikkka......

It's gonna be a gay bar with a Muslim theme. Plenty of people will go for the novelty, not actual gay muslims though.
 
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thatdamnjay;1104034 said:
so this is real?? not a hoax or some drummed up controversy?

wow...

The whole point is controversy. Controversy sells. But if you got some property and you want to open it up as a mosque or as a Muslim gay bar, I see no reason to tell anyone they can't do it.
 
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shootemwon;1101816 said:
I don't give a shit what the "true believers" advocate. There's no hypocrisy in saying that people can choose to use their private property for a mosque and they can also use it for a gay bar.

There is hypocrisy if the premise of building said establishments to to "encourage tolerance and acceptance" of gays amongst the muslims like building a mosque near ground zero when the muslims themselves don't agree with killing innocents none of you responded to the scenario i put fourth earlier

you would have no problem with neo-nazis building an establishment in the hopes of spreading their ideals across the street from a Jewish temple? How do you not see that that's asking for trouble? it's ok because the property is "privately owned" though right? Ha.

Wa alaikum
 
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supaman4321;1104515 said:
There is hypocrisy if the premise of building said establishments to to "encourage tolerance and acceptance" of gays amongst the muslims like building a mosque near ground zero when the muslims themselves don't agree with killing innocents none of you responded to the scenario i put fourth earlier

you would have no problem with neo-nazis building an establishment in the hopes of spreading their ideals across the street from a Jewish temple? How do you not see that that's asking for trouble? it's ok because the property is "privately owned" though right? Ha.

Wa alaikum

I don't like neo-nazis but if they own a property and wish to congregate in it, as long as they're not planning or threatening criminal activity, it's their business.
 
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janklow;1103550 said:
wait, i thought it began as an ideology that everyone should give all their cash to L. Ron Hubbard because of his awesomeness?

Whatever works for you. As long as it's your money and your choice, why does it matter to you? The gov't doesn't ask you for shit, they gangster the money you earn straight off the top like the mob and you say nothing. I will take freedom to spend my money as I choose over legislative mafioso any day. LOL at niggas hating because they didn't think of that.
 
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And Step;1106103 said:
LOL at niggas hating because they didn't think of that.
right, no one's objection is because of the scumbag nature of Hubbard or anything

unless we're talking about the "ground zero mosque" or the gay bar, in which case, godspeed, respective business owners
 
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supaman4321;1091524 said:
The Qur'an also states that any man that sheds the blood of an innocent human being it as if he has killed all of mankind

Facts.
Yeah but if you support a government that assists your blood enemy (Israel) in killing Muslims with bombings and funding to Israel and waging war against Muslims through our tax dollars....you're not innocent anymore now are you?
 
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And Step;1096691 said:
Actually, it doesn't. The term Non-Muslim is not used once in the Quran. This is called lying.

The reason why this term is not used is because the Quran holds the position that all human beings are Muslims by nature.

It speaks of Idol worshippers, disbelievers, Jews, Christians, Sabaens and a few other classes of people. These people are not enemies unless they aggress upon or oppose you, according to Quran. There are instances in the Quran where Muslims are instructed to form alliances with people who don't share their faith. It was Ethiopian Christians who protected Muslims when they were run out of Mecca. There were Jews who were protected by the Muslims because they kept their word and formed alliances with them. Then there were some Jews who were merked because they joined on to the enemies and caused great loss of life, property, and hardship because of their treachery.

Besides, the most violent religion is white supremacy. Yes that is a religion. This is undisputable.
YO he just dropped some science. Can Ktulu pick it back up?
 
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janklow;1106967 said:
right, no one's objection is because of the scumbag nature of Hubbard or anything

unless we're talking about the "ground zero mosque" or the gay bar, in which case, godspeed, respective business owners

You knew Ron Hubbard, personally?
 
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Darxwell;1107479 said:
Yeah but if you support a government that assists your blood enemy (Israel) in killing Muslims with bombings and funding to Israel and waging war against Muslims through our tax dollars....you're not innocent anymore now are you?

I didn't feel the need to bring that up because 9 times outta 10 most of the Americans killed in that plan couldn't even point to where Palestine is on a map let alone talk about all the innocent women and children (not even talking about men) that have been slaughtered because of America and Israel that's why I just stated what the Qur'an says: The killing of one innocent person is as if you've murdered the entire population of the world, and in the end Allah will judge between those who have a dispute of affairs when we have to answer for our deeds. The Mujahideen will have to answer for everything that they do as well as the kuffar, so I don't worry about who's right or wrong, I worry about people trying to antagonize my brothers with false talk of "tolerance" and 'acceptance"
 
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KTULU IS BACK;1105416 said:
lol

did he really just say "gays are to muslims as nazis are to jews"?

he did

lol

what a fucking moron

ah I see so it's your reading comprehension skills that are lacking, how could I expect you to understand the Qur'an if your heart's too hard to understand a simple question.

but i'm the moron? HA!
 
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And Step;1107521 said:
You knew Ron Hubbard, personally?
i forgot that here on the internet we can only make judgments about the people we have PERSONALLY known.
 
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janklow;1111865 said:
i forgot that here on the internet we can only make judgments about the people we have PERSONALLY known.

So that basically means no. Yeah people make true and FALSE judgments all the time. Sad part is, when you ask for some sources it is usually somebody said or I heard or well you know. Guess they lawsuits the launched that were successful made a lot of people back the fuck up.

I know scientologists, and I have to be honest, they seem to be very at peace with themselves. I haven't met one yet who did not emanate an aura of peace. I frankly don't give a shit what their ideology or religious doctrine is, as long as they keep it a 100 peaceful and respectful they all right with me. You can tell a true by the fruit it bears......
 
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And Step;1112326 said:
So that basically means no.
actually, what it means is that we discuss public, historical figures on this forum all the time. and we never go "well, if you don't know this guy PERSONALLY, you can't speak ill of them." really, you know everyone that you've criticized here personally? it's a ridiculous tactic you're using because you can't defend the "merits" of Hubbard.

And Step;1112326 said:
Yeah people make true and FALSE judgments all the time. Sad part is, when you ask for some sources it is usually somebody said or I heard or well you know. Guess they lawsuits the launched that were successful made a lot of people back the fuck up.
uh... there are sources for the bullshit Hubbard specifically pulled; lawsuits alone did not stop that.

And Step;1112326 said:
I know scientologists-
so do i. but i thought i was talking about L. Ron Hubbard.
 
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