Muslim Gay Bar to open next to Ground Zero Mosque

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janklow;1117965 said:
actually, what it means is that we discuss public, historical figures on this forum all the time. and we never go "well, if you don't know this guy PERSONALLY, you can't speak ill of them." really, you know everyone that you've criticized here personally? it's a ridiculous tactic you're using because you can't defend the "merits" of Hubbard.

You made personal inferences against the scumbag nature . I don't have to defend the "merits" of Ron Hubbard. I criticize actions, programs, and ideas. Not personal natures. Unless of course you want to get personal, then it's on and poppin...

uh... there are sources for the bullshit Hubbard specifically pulled; lawsuits alone did not stop that.

Yeah, I know I mentioned them in my post remember? Personally, I think it's kind of fly that he wouldn't let people just attack them without fighting back. I like that about Larry Flynt, too. Dont say nothin..........

so do i. but i thought i was talking about L. Ron Hubbard.

We were, the point was, and I specifically said you can judge a tree by the fruit that it bears, maybe next time you can put the whole quote up instead of the infamous.............

How was work last night at the gay fitness center? They might be hiring at that new Muslim Gay Bar. Your current experience as manager of the gay 24 hour fitness club coupled with your tenure as a moderator of the Race and Religion forum should give you a leg up on the competition.
 
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And Step;1118556 said:
You made personal inferences against the scumbag nature.
which have been documented by people other than myself. and when you say he can't be called a scumbag, you seem to be presuming it has nothing to do with his actions and ideas (how one's ideas have nothing to do with their "personal nature" seems a bit odd). but let's not forget that your argument seems to be that you cannot criticize people you don't personally know.

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Yeah, I know I mentioned them in my post remember?
i seem to recall a quote that looked like "Sad part is, when you ask for some sources it is usually somebody said or I heard or well you know."

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We were, the point was, and I specifically said you can judge a tree by the fruit that it bears, maybe next time you can put the whole quote up instead of the infamous.............
talking about Scientologists seems irrelevant since my criticism has been aimed at Hubbard.

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How was work last night at the gay fitness center? They might be hiring at that new Muslim Gay Bar. Your current experience as manager of the gay 24 hour fitness club coupled with your tenure as a moderator of the Race and Religion forum should give you a leg up on the competition.
awww, it's so adorable when you get so mad that you can't debate a topic like an adult.

and wouldn't you know, it's a personal attack on someone you don't personally know. keep that hypocrisy coming!
 
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Why are you guys freaking out ?

I am Muslim and Gay. President of Muslim Gay Alliance in NJ . I'm pushing for this gay bar in NYC. If you need more information write me 1404 Oak tree road, Suit # 213 , Iselin New Jersey 08830. We need to get the word out & we need funding for Muslim Gay bar.

You can also contact Dar-ul-Aqum school or Minhaal Academy in NJ for non-profit queries

Zulfiqar Ali

janklow;1124526 said:
which have been documented by people other than myself. and when you say he can't be called a scumbag, you seem to be presuming it has nothing to do with his actions and ideas (how one's ideas have nothing to do with their "personal nature" seems a bit odd). but let's not forget that your argument seems to be that you cannot criticize people you don't personally know.

i seem to recall a quote that looked like "Sad part is, when you ask for some sources it is usually somebody said or I heard or well you know."

talking about Scientologists seems irrelevant since my criticism has been aimed at Hubbard.

awww, it's so adorable when you get so mad that you can't debate a topic like an adult.

and wouldn't you know, it's a personal attack on someone you don't personally know. keep that hypocrisy coming!
 
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ZulfiqarALI;2830667 said:
Why are you guys freaking out ?
I am Muslim and Gay. President of Muslim Gay Alliance in NJ . I'm pushing for this gay bar in NYC. If you need more information write me 1404 Oak tree road, Suit # 213 , Iselin New Jersey 08830. We need to get the word out & we need funding for Muslim Gay bar.
You can also contact Dar-ul-Aqum school or Minhaal Academy in NJ for non-profit queries
Zulfiqar Ali

lol wtf
 
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ZulfiqarALI;2830667 said:
Why are you guys freaking out ?
I am Muslim and Gay. President of Muslim Gay Alliance in NJ . I'm pushing for this gay bar in NYC. If you need more information write me 1404 Oak tree road, Suit # 213 , Iselin New Jersey 08830. We need to get the word out & we need funding for Muslim Gay bar.
You can also contact Dar-ul-Aqum school or Minhaal Academy in NJ for non-profit queries
Zulfiqar Ali

A Muslim Gay Bar? So your going to have a bar for gay Muslims. Are you going to serve alcohol and pork? LOL. My man you prob would be better opening up a franchise in Europe.

The moderator of this forum could probably help you out tremendously, he has experience working in the religious community as well as being gainfully employed at a gay business establishment. He has a unique perspective that would serve you well. As funding goes, that should not be a problem, gay dudes are usually caked up and they really back their own and put their money where their mouth is..........................................Well that would mean that they put it...oh never mind..
 
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And Step;2831347 said:
The moderator of this forum could probably help you out tremendously, he has experience working in the religious community as well as being gainfully employed at a gay business establishment.
so you're going to bump an old thread with an alias just to talk shit? you know there's a forum for that, right?
 
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